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Originally Posted By Dog1: While the picture is not from World War II, the Browning M2 that my son was working on in the Armory at Camp Pendleton is from World War II. It says stamped on the side- AC Spark Plug, Flint, Michigan https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/9749/received_723429138567216-1778090.jpg View Quote Pretty cool! It is one of the "rare" ones too, sort of like some of the other guns produced by various industrial companies not normally in the firearms business. Singer Swing Machine 1911s, Rock-ola and IBM M1 Carbines, International Harvester M1 Rifles. Great piece of history! |
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View Quote Streamlined Skoda PA-II armored cars of the Vienna Police suppress the July Putsch, attempted Nazi coup in Austria 1934: Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Nine PA-II's were taken into Wehrmacht service after the Anschluss and are known to have been used in the invasions of Poland and France Attached File The guns were dismounted and bed frame antenna added for use as radio relay vehicles Attached File |
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Well that's one on me. I thought I've seen every armored car ever made. But I've never seen that one. That is some dandy sheet metal work
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
Originally Posted By jblomenberg16: Pretty cool! It is one of the "rare" ones too, sort of like some of the other guns produced by various industrial companies not normally in the firearms business. Singer Swing Machine 1911s, Rock-ola and IBM M1 Carbines, International Harvester M1 Rifles. Great piece of history! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jblomenberg16: Originally Posted By Dog1: While the picture is not from World War II, the Browning M2 that my son was working on in the Armory at Camp Pendleton is from World War II. It says stamped on the side- AC Spark Plug, Flint, Michigan https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/9749/received_723429138567216-1778090.jpg Pretty cool! It is one of the "rare" ones too, sort of like some of the other guns produced by various industrial companies not normally in the firearms business. Singer Swing Machine 1911s, Rock-ola and IBM M1 Carbines, International Harvester M1 Rifles. Great piece of history! Well all ten of the M1 Carbine prime contractors save Winchester. Rem Rand M1911A1's, Smith Corona M1903A3's. |
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: The elusive Maus https://i.imgur.com/d0DULTw.jpg Some interesting drawings and pictures in the linked article. View Quote Fucking thing had a co-axial 75mm high velocity gun. It's almost funny. |
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Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants
Caddyshack Some men are morally opposed to violence. They are protected by those who are not. |
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#53 says, "Take 22 mg absorbed Vit C per lb plus 1 gram Chaga daily. Don't forget 2000iu Vit D-3, 30 mg Zinc and 2 mg Cu."
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Originally Posted By 4v50: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d1/2a/48/d12a48cf8a995e0a829d0006cc3bce05.jpg https://i.imgur.com/F3KSC3H.png https://us.v-cdn.net/6026685/uploads/editor/y7/12loi4elnpux.jpg View Quote I always liked the Flakpanzer.... |
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: HCR2 for M4 Sherman tanks, one of the first composite armors. https://i.imgur.com/qMKwi4l.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zJRF3ba.jpg View Quote Originally developed by the Brits in 1940 to give some armor protection to merchant ships: Plastic armour |
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another one of Hitlers "terror weapons" Attached File
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Originally Posted By mikepn: another one of Hitlers "terror weapons"https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/179055/antitank_aircraft_jpg-1783562.JPG View Quote Not sure who did it first, but we had multiple intrepid aviators who did similar: I think I first learned about him in this thread, but I'm not going back to look for it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carpenter_(lieutenant_colonel) |
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Originally Posted By 4v50: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d1/2a/48/d12a48cf8a995e0a829d0006cc3bce05.jpg https://i.imgur.com/F3KSC3H.png https://us.v-cdn.net/6026685/uploads/editor/y7/12loi4elnpux.jpg View Quote In the top photo, can the guns elevate independently or is that one broken? Seems like an odd feature if intentional |
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Originally Posted By Colt_sporter: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/8CA4CF23-1B73-4AB6-82AC-EFA08C4C3197_jpe-1747019.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 22caliberKIDD: U-505 after capture being towed behind USS Guadalcanal https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/806FF5A8-267A-49AF-9FB6-8FB47F3BF0A4_jpe-1702105.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/7D6887AC-478B-4FFB-8494-2300560B521F_jpe-1702106.JPG Alongside the Guadalcanal https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/D73A0F0C-EC94-44D4-86EE-3E2DF2486FF2_jpe-1702107.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/5C43F895-F1CB-42BE-8393-F91D609A0F69_jpe-1702108.JPG View Quote |
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"you ought to listen to our resident Swede, he's genetically superior." -Bohr_Adam
"They are superior beings those Swedes." -RockHard13F |
One of the ready ammo vaults of the Berlin Zoo flak tower
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: One of the ready ammo vaults of the Berlin Zoo flak tower https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/2691164_orig_jpg-1785246.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/2011707_jpg-1785250.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/trailer_jpg-1785259.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hoisting_jpg-1785261.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/door_jpg-1785270.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/shell_jpg-1785276.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/action_jpg-1785278.JPG View Quote I don't know what it is but there's something about those German flak towers that fascinates me |
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
Originally Posted By Dog1: I don't know what it is but there's something about those German flak towers that fascinates me View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: One of the ready ammo vaults of the Berlin Zoo flak tower https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/2691164_orig_jpg-1785246.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/2011707_jpg-1785250.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/trailer_jpg-1785259.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/hoisting_jpg-1785261.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/door_jpg-1785270.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/shell_jpg-1785276.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/action_jpg-1785278.JPG I don't know what it is but there's something about those German flak towers that fascinates me I hope they had an ammo elevator. That's a lot of stairs to hump a 128mm round to refill that thing. |
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Originally Posted By DOW: Fucking thing had a co-axial 75mm high velocity gun. It's almost funny. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DOW: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: The elusive Maus https://i.imgur.com/d0DULTw.jpg Some interesting drawings and pictures in the linked article. Fucking thing had a co-axial 75mm high velocity gun. It's almost funny. The next derivative in the line, the E-100, had the same as well as the 12.8 cm gun.............eventually it would have had a 15 cm main gun |
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Originally Posted By cyclone: The next derivative in the line, the E-100, had the same as well as the 12.8 cm gun.............eventually it would have had a 15 cm main gun View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cyclone: Originally Posted By DOW: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: The elusive Maus https://i.imgur.com/d0DULTw.jpg Some interesting drawings and pictures in the linked article. Fucking thing had a co-axial 75mm high velocity gun. It's almost funny. The next derivative in the line, the E-100, had the same as well as the 12.8 cm gun.............eventually it would have had a 15 cm main gun Interesting to think that the largest caliber tank round in general use today is 12.0 cm aka 120 mm. |
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Originally Posted By birdbarian: Interesting to think that the largest caliber tank round in general use today is 12.0 cm aka 120 mm. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By birdbarian: Originally Posted By cyclone: Originally Posted By DOW: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: The elusive Maus https://i.imgur.com/d0DULTw.jpg Some interesting drawings and pictures in the linked article. Fucking thing had a co-axial 75mm high velocity gun. It's almost funny. The next derivative in the line, the E-100, had the same as well as the 12.8 cm gun.............eventually it would have had a 15 cm main gun Interesting to think that the largest caliber tank round in general use today is 12.0 cm aka 120 mm. Yep....... the 128 was a pretty effective gun |
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Heinkel He 59 of the Seenotdienst, "Sea-Air Rescue Service" of the Luftwaffe. They operated unarmed and painted white with a red cross at the beginning of the Battle of Britain, until the British started routinely shooting them down. The Germans complained bitterly and pointed to the Geneva Convention, but the British argued, correctly, that the rescue aircraft were also tracking convoys for attack. Churchill later admitted that ensuring the capture (or drowning) of downed German pilots was also a primary motivation for attacking Seenotdienst aircraft, and the unequal recovery rate of pilots was one of the decisive factors in their victory in the Battle of Britain. The Seenotdienst rescued (and of course imprisoned) a number of British bomber aircrew while the British lacked a proper rescue organization, which took them a couple years.
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Churchill said that his orders to attack the Clearly Marked Red Cross on White German Air Sea Rescue Aircraft was one factor that would end his days as a "War Criminal" if Britain were to lose WWII.
The Germans placed Rescue Buoys in the English Channel for Aircrew refuge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_buoy_(Luftwaffe) The British then did similar later in the war along Bomber flight paths in hopes to increase the odds of survival for aircrew. |
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LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY,
BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!! |
Originally Posted By Dog1: I don't know what it is but there's something about those German flak towers that fascinates me View Quote There are still Flak Towers up in Germany (Berlin & Hamburg) & in Austria (Vienna). It was amazing they were BOTH Massive Air Raid Shelters AND Well Armed Fighting Positions... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flak_tower |
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LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY,
BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!! |
Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: Churchill said that his orders to attack the Clearly Marked Red Cross on White German Air Sea Rescue Aircraft was one factor that would end his days as a "War Criminal" if Britain were to lose WWII. The Germans placed Rescue Buoys in the English Channel for Aircrew refuge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_buoy_(Luftwaffe) https://wtffunfact.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/WTF-Fun-Fact-Rettungsboje.png https://external-preview.redd.it/0SWmpK-2I7u24adZq_7M-XSqD8H7WTZb5OoVGlmjqac.jpg?auto=webp&s=42bfa69b45aacf1bc94f44d1003aafb0d5c3868b https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/qvQw7vPnzsSmfm3VcrZeQw-cmBh00xHisk9ORnaMNUCrZGXQ6Rx22iI_oFPvE_u02GogG_GAMZAag7SJ-BSrp2Ci2iO9n4mBDlr-GQ The British then did similar later in the war along Bomber flight paths in hopes to increase the odds of survival for aircrew. https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-af466afe2317a85ac727160f5f7cf4b8 https://www.readkong.com/static/3c/e2/3ce2f065de91c1da0d2647e41a2105be/air-sea-rescue-dumb-barges-called-6000887-2.jpg View Quote That got me to wondering: how were they maintained? Did small RN craft go out and check on these? Were they pilferable? Subject to attack? Was there even commercial traffic in the Channel, fishing boats and etc? |
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Originally Posted By junker46: That got me to wondering: how were they maintained? Did small RN craft go out and check on these? Were they pilferable? Subject to attack? Was there even commercial traffic in the Channel, fishing boats and etc? View Quote All those questions plus how many aircrew ended up using them? |
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Originally Posted By Dog1: Whoa! That's pretty cool that they repurposed them without tearing them down View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: There are still Flak Towers up in Germany (Berlin & Hamburg) & in Austria (Vienna). It was amazing they were BOTH Massive Air Raid Shelters AND Well Armed Fighting Positions... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flak_tower https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Flakbunker-Heiligengeistfeld-Hamburg.jpg/800px-Flakbunker-Heiligengeistfeld-Hamburg.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Esterhazypark_Leitturm_01.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Wien_-_Flakturm_Augarten_%282%29.JPG/800px-Wien_-_Flakturm_Augarten_%282%29.JPG https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Wien_-_Flakturm_Augarten_%283%29.JPG/800px-Wien_-_Flakturm_Augarten_%283%29.JPG Whoa! That's pretty cool that they repurposed them without tearing them down If I recall correctly they wanted to destroy the towers but they were exceptionally well built and made to withstand bombardment. Cheaper to repurpose |
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WTF is up with this bullshit anti-bayo lug crap. Was there a group of irrate japanese guys bonzai charging disabled school children and puppies that I wasn't aware of?
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Originally Posted By Silverbulletz06: If I recall correctly they wanted to destroy the towers but they were exceptionally well built and made to withstand bombardment. Cheaper to repurpose View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Silverbulletz06: Originally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: There are still Flak Towers up in Germany (Berlin & Hamburg) & in Austria (Vienna). It was amazing they were BOTH Massive Air Raid Shelters AND Well Armed Fighting Positions... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flak_tower https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Flakbunker-Heiligengeistfeld-Hamburg.jpg/800px-Flakbunker-Heiligengeistfeld-Hamburg.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Esterhazypark_Leitturm_01.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Wien_-_Flakturm_Augarten_%282%29.JPG/800px-Wien_-_Flakturm_Augarten_%282%29.JPG https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Wien_-_Flakturm_Augarten_%283%29.JPG/800px-Wien_-_Flakturm_Augarten_%283%29.JPG Whoa! That's pretty cool that they repurposed them without tearing them down If I recall correctly they wanted to destroy the towers but they were exceptionally well built and made to withstand bombardment. Cheaper to repurpose "Exceptionally" is a significant understatement. Attempts were made to destroy a couple of them. The core of this flak tower is still standing under a pile of rubble from clean up of the surrounding city. |
" If govt parsimony is economic madness, and debt-fuelled govt spending a recipe for riches, why aren't the Greeks bailing out the Germans?"
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Originally Posted By junker46: That got me to wondering: how were they maintained? Did small RN craft go out and check on these? Were they pilferable? Subject to attack? Was there even commercial traffic in the Channel, fishing boats and etc? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By junker46: Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: Churchill said that his orders to attack the Clearly Marked Red Cross on White German Air Sea Rescue Aircraft was one factor that would end his days as a "War Criminal" if Britain were to lose WWII. The Germans placed Rescue Buoys in the English Channel for Aircrew refuge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_buoy_(Luftwaffe) https://wtffunfact.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/WTF-Fun-Fact-Rettungsboje.png https://external-preview.redd.it/0SWmpK-2I7u24adZq_7M-XSqD8H7WTZb5OoVGlmjqac.jpg?auto=webp&s=42bfa69b45aacf1bc94f44d1003aafb0d5c3868b https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/qvQw7vPnzsSmfm3VcrZeQw-cmBh00xHisk9ORnaMNUCrZGXQ6Rx22iI_oFPvE_u02GogG_GAMZAag7SJ-BSrp2Ci2iO9n4mBDlr-GQ The British then did similar later in the war along Bomber flight paths in hopes to increase the odds of survival for aircrew. https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-af466afe2317a85ac727160f5f7cf4b8 https://www.readkong.com/static/3c/e2/3ce2f065de91c1da0d2647e41a2105be/air-sea-rescue-dumb-barges-called-6000887-2.jpg That got me to wondering: how were they maintained? Did small RN craft go out and check on these? Were they pilferable? Subject to attack? Was there even commercial traffic in the Channel, fishing boats and etc? The British would send out check boats periodically to verify Rescue Buoys were in position, stocked & ready with no incapacitated people (or bodies) on board. The Buoys had A Radio set, along with Marker Flags & Flares to signal when someone was there and needed rescue. Could you pilfer? guess so - they were unlocked so any aircrew who could make it to one could enter, dry off, eat, drink and call for rescue. Could be subject to attack, but as they could be life savers to BOTH Germans & Allied Pilots, (and a pilot never knew when they might end up REALLY needing one), the General Consensus was they were like a ambulance or red cross tent & to leave them alone. There was lot of traffic in the English Channel throughout the war. The English used the commercial ports for shipping along the British coastline. Of course Royal Navy Ships constantly on patrol or raids across the channel. Germans would send Destroyers or E-boats back to do the same. One of the Largest Losses of life in the D-day invasion was when German E-boats ambushed Allied LSTs practicing for the invasion at Slapton Sands in "Exercise Tiger". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Tiger 749 Americans were killed that night... |
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LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY,
BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!! |
Originally Posted By Dog1: While the picture is not from World War II, the Browning M2 that my son was working on in the Armory at Camp Pendleton is from World War II. It says stamped on the side- AC Spark Plug, Flint, Michigan https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/9749/received_723429138567216-1778090.jpg View Quote They're out there. I qualified with an AC Spark Plug made M2 circa 2000. |
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To the everlasting glory of the infantry...
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I consider myself fairly knowledgeable of WWII and just learned about flak towers
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Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants
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Originally Posted By Gopher: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1670/B-17_nose_jpg-1790862.JPG View Quote Another angle...notice the gun hanging off to the side Attached File |
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Originally Posted By 22caliberKIDD: Another angle...notice the gun hanging off to the side https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/321106/152B2E2A-871E-4865-8F25-D7FC84291365_jpe-1790871.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 22caliberKIDD: Originally Posted By Gopher: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1670/B-17_nose_jpg-1790862.JPG Another angle...notice the gun hanging off to the side https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/321106/152B2E2A-871E-4865-8F25-D7FC84291365_jpe-1790871.JPG You caught the post before my edit. That pic was of a G model with a chin turret. Most of them also had additional nose armament as pictured there. The effectiveness of the field modifications leads to the chin turret and other mods to the aircraft. Head-on attacks were always a problem. I don't remember if that was flack damage or not. |
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Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants
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Do 217 with prototype Me 328, all wood pulse jet powered parasite fighter. Development unsuccessful due to excessive vibration:
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