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Link Posted: 1/13/2021 6:41:23 PM EDT
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Special purpose diving team recovering a KV-1 tank that fell through the ice on lake Ladoga
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Link Posted: 1/13/2021 7:51:55 PM EDT
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While the picture is not from World War II, the Browning M2 that my son was working on in the Armory at Camp Pendleton is from World War II. It says stamped on the side-

AC Spark Plug, Flint, Michigan




50 Caliber Machine Gun:  The .50 caliber heavy machine gun was AC Spark Plugs' signature WWII product.  On September 30, 1940, AC Spark Plug received an order for 14,741 aircraft flexible and 7,385 heavy barrel .50 caliber machine guns.  By November 1944, AC and three other GM divisions had produced one million machine guns.  Between Saginaw Steering Gear and Frigidaire Divisions of GM, they produced 775,384 Browning machine guns by war's end.  The amount that Brown-Lipe-Chapin built is unknown but estimated at 100,000.  An estimate for the number of  .50 caliber Browning machine guns built by AC Spark Plug is 250,000.
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Link Posted: 1/13/2021 11:47:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dog1:
While the picture is not from World War II, the Browning M2 that my son was working on in the Armory at Camp Pendleton is from World War II. It says stamped on the side-

AC Spark Plug, Flint, Michigan

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/9749/received_723429138567216-1778090.jpg


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Pretty cool!   It is one of the "rare" ones too, sort of like some of the other guns produced by various industrial companies not normally in the firearms business.  Singer Swing Machine 1911s, Rock-ola and IBM M1 Carbines, International Harvester M1 Rifles.   Great piece of history!
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 10:09:36 AM EDT
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Looks like a tough job.

Streamlined Skoda PA-II armored cars of the Vienna Police suppress the July Putsch, attempted Nazi coup in Austria 1934:
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Nine PA-II's were taken into Wehrmacht service after the Anschluss and are known to have been used in the invasions of Poland and France
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The guns were dismounted and bed frame antenna added for use as radio relay vehicles
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Link Posted: 1/14/2021 11:11:48 AM EDT
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Well that's one on me. I thought I've seen every armored car ever made. But I've never seen that one. That is some dandy sheet metal work
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 3:48:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:



Pretty cool!   It is one of the "rare" ones too, sort of like some of the other guns produced by various industrial companies not normally in the firearms business.  Singer Swing Machine 1911s, Rock-ola and IBM M1 Carbines, International Harvester M1 Rifles.   Great piece of history!
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:
Originally Posted By Dog1:
While the picture is not from World War II, the Browning M2 that my son was working on in the Armory at Camp Pendleton is from World War II. It says stamped on the side-

AC Spark Plug, Flint, Michigan

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/9749/received_723429138567216-1778090.jpg





Pretty cool!   It is one of the "rare" ones too, sort of like some of the other guns produced by various industrial companies not normally in the firearms business.  Singer Swing Machine 1911s, Rock-ola and IBM M1 Carbines, International Harvester M1 Rifles.   Great piece of history!



Well all ten of the M1 Carbine prime contractors save Winchester. Rem Rand M1911A1's, Smith Corona M1903A3's.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 8:25:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dog1:
Well that's one on me. I thought I've seen every armored car ever made. But I've never seen that one. That is some dandy sheet metal work
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Talent flows when a gun is at your head.

Cool vehicles.
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 8:15:07 AM EDT
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The elusive Maus



Some interesting drawings and pictures in the linked article.

Link Posted: 1/16/2021 11:56:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
The elusive Maus

https://i.imgur.com/d0DULTw.jpg

Some interesting drawings and pictures in the linked article.

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Fucking thing had a co-axial 75mm high velocity gun.

It's almost funny.
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 2:04:55 PM EDT
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Moved to the correct thread.

Consolidated B-32 on Okinawa 8-12-1945.

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Originally developed by the Brits in 1940 to give some armor protection to merchant ships:
Plastic armour
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Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:11:54 PM EDT
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Here are a few photos of a Swedish airfield, one of many that were constructed in a few short weeks after the invasions of Denmark and Norway. These airfields were constructed away from the regular air bases to disperse the air force.






Hangar disguised to look like a barn.











Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:13:44 PM EDT
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another one of Hitlers "terror weapons"https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/179055/antitank_aircraft_jpg-1783562.JPG
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Not sure who did it first, but we had multiple intrepid aviators who did similar:

I think I first learned about him in this thread, but I'm not going back to look for it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carpenter_(lieutenant_colonel)

Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:15:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Here are a few photos of a Swedish airfield, one of many that were constructed in a few short weeks after the invasions of Denmark and Norway. These airfields were constructed away from the regular air bases to disperse the air force.

https://scontent-arn2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/139516067_3587325571323370_5327765053497764351_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Tf9QTfg3qHQAX_LhwAH&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-2.xx&oh=6b697f884b95c9d7c6356197978bd440&oe=6029418A

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/140035357_3587325557990038_8113762185203406611_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Yr7SyXw73Y0AX8lxUCn&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=87204c2d2145fdde1f9910323a710d0e&oe=6029BF23

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/139919665_3587325657990028_2088279370138564651_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=yKvEo6h2wQEAX9RAeCg&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=269c4c1e2a1d96c076d8924eb441bb90&oe=6028937D
Hangar disguised to look like a barn.

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/139979828_3587325671323360_6137650378200324464_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=wXYvzAmniuAAX9mUVCL&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=01aa69fb127c147be29be946e88e1a9e&oe=60286A77

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/140009253_3587325667990027_5826417080748733873_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Dk-LxfIdfLYAX_pG4lk&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=4ef87c6cfb79b1b956ea3452d4d58cc7&oe=6028DB52

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https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/139501729_3587325554656705_6245862162107960653_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=OhR1XpOI0RYAX8WM825&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=37587f484f61af713e22da13124f2a4a&oe=602BC266

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Is that open to the public like a history museum?
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Is that open to the public like a history museum?
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Here are a few photos of a Swedish airfield, one of many that were constructed in a few short weeks after the invasions of Denmark and Norway. These airfields were constructed away from the regular air bases to disperse the air force.

https://scontent-arn2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/139516067_3587325571323370_5327765053497764351_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Tf9QTfg3qHQAX_LhwAH&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-2.xx&oh=6b697f884b95c9d7c6356197978bd440&oe=6029418A

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/140035357_3587325557990038_8113762185203406611_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Yr7SyXw73Y0AX8lxUCn&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=87204c2d2145fdde1f9910323a710d0e&oe=6029BF23

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/139919665_3587325657990028_2088279370138564651_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=yKvEo6h2wQEAX9RAeCg&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=269c4c1e2a1d96c076d8924eb441bb90&oe=6028937D
Hangar disguised to look like a barn.

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/139979828_3587325671323360_6137650378200324464_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=wXYvzAmniuAAX9mUVCL&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=01aa69fb127c147be29be946e88e1a9e&oe=60286A77

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/140009253_3587325667990027_5826417080748733873_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Dk-LxfIdfLYAX_pG4lk&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=4ef87c6cfb79b1b956ea3452d4d58cc7&oe=6028DB52

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/140172376_3587325757990018_2702760627468634431_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=KcyatNYT6pQAX8ONRDz&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=73ff8172fa71db874a55e0aef30d56c4&oe=60292D56

https://scontent-arn2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/140014681_3587325781323349_7712361807208454385_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Y5WWvuKs_lcAX8-MRGN&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-2.xx&oh=66ce2a1e1fee2989e95751700502a9be&oe=602BBB2C

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/139501729_3587325554656705_6245862162107960653_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=OhR1XpOI0RYAX8WM825&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=37587f484f61af713e22da13124f2a4a&oe=602BC266

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/139460767_3587325777990016_8588117582425964042_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=jFhom5ubjYUAX-93H29&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=9b3add6465df090af25bce6231261a52&oe=602B8DB7


Is that open to the public like a history museum?


Yes.
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In the top photo, can the guns elevate independently or is that one broken?  Seems like an odd feature if intentional
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Picture taken at Volkel Airbase in the Netherland, 5 miles from me. Volkel Airbase was built by the Germans in WW2. Captured by the RAF after operation Market Garden in 1944.
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In the top photo, can the guns elevate independently or is that one broken?  Seems like an odd feature if intentional
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Broken.
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 6:58:24 PM EDT
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Funeral for downed RAF and RCAF aviators, Helsingborg 1944.
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I don't know what it is but there's something about those German flak towers that fascinates me
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I hope they had an ammo elevator. That's a lot of stairs to hump a 128mm round to refill that thing.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 10:02:07 PM EDT
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Fucking thing had a co-axial 75mm high velocity gun.

It's almost funny.
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
The elusive Maus

https://i.imgur.com/d0DULTw.jpg

Some interesting drawings and pictures in the linked article.




Fucking thing had a co-axial 75mm high velocity gun.

It's almost funny.

The next derivative in the line, the E-100, had the same as well as the 12.8 cm gun.............eventually it would have had a 15 cm main gun
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 9:30:12 AM EDT
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I hope they had an ammo elevator. That's a lot of stairs to hump a 128mm round to refill that thing.
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The vault is the topmost part of the ammo elevator.



Link Posted: 1/19/2021 9:54:44 AM EDT
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The next derivative in the line, the E-100, had the same as well as the 12.8 cm gun.............eventually it would have had a 15 cm main gun
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Originally Posted By DOW:
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
The elusive Maus

https://i.imgur.com/d0DULTw.jpg

Some interesting drawings and pictures in the linked article.




Fucking thing had a co-axial 75mm high velocity gun.

It's almost funny.

The next derivative in the line, the E-100, had the same as well as the 12.8 cm gun.............eventually it would have had a 15 cm main gun


Interesting to think that the largest caliber tank round in general use today is 12.0 cm aka 120 mm.
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Can somebody identify the trailer?  

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Originally Posted By birdbarian:


Interesting to think that the largest caliber tank round in general use today is 12.0 cm aka 120 mm.
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Originally Posted By cyclone:
Originally Posted By DOW:
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
The elusive Maus

https://i.imgur.com/d0DULTw.jpg

Some interesting drawings and pictures in the linked article.




Fucking thing had a co-axial 75mm high velocity gun.

It's almost funny.

The next derivative in the line, the E-100, had the same as well as the 12.8 cm gun.............eventually it would have had a 15 cm main gun


Interesting to think that the largest caliber tank round in general use today is 12.0 cm aka 120 mm.

Yep....... the 128 was a pretty effective gun
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Heinkel He 59 of the Seenotdienst, "Sea-Air Rescue Service" of the Luftwaffe.  They operated unarmed and painted white with a red cross at the beginning of the Battle of Britain, until the British started routinely shooting them down.  The Germans complained bitterly and pointed to the Geneva Convention, but the British argued, correctly, that the rescue aircraft were also tracking convoys for attack.  Churchill later admitted that ensuring the capture (or drowning) of downed German pilots was also a primary motivation for attacking Seenotdienst aircraft, and the unequal recovery rate of pilots was one of the decisive factors in their victory in the Battle of Britain.  The Seenotdienst rescued (and of course imprisoned) a number of British bomber aircrew while the British lacked a proper rescue organization, which took them a couple years.
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Churchill said that his orders to attack the Clearly Marked Red Cross on White German Air Sea Rescue Aircraft was one factor that would end his days as a "War Criminal" if Britain were to lose WWII.


The Germans placed Rescue Buoys in the English Channel for Aircrew refuge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_buoy_(Luftwaffe)









The British then did similar later in the war along Bomber flight paths in hopes to increase the odds of survival for aircrew.



Link Posted: 1/20/2021 12:07:01 PM EDT
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I don't know what it is but there's something about those German flak towers that fascinates me
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There are still Flak Towers up in Germany (Berlin & Hamburg) & in Austria (Vienna).

It was amazing they were BOTH Massive Air Raid Shelters AND Well Armed Fighting Positions...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flak_tower







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Churchill said that his orders to attack the Clearly Marked Red Cross on White German Air Sea Rescue Aircraft was one factor that would end his days as a "War Criminal" if Britain were to lose WWII.


The Germans placed Rescue Buoys in the English Channel for Aircrew refuge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_buoy_(Luftwaffe)

https://wtffunfact.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/WTF-Fun-Fact-Rettungsboje.png

https://external-preview.redd.it/0SWmpK-2I7u24adZq_7M-XSqD8H7WTZb5OoVGlmjqac.jpg?auto=webp&s=42bfa69b45aacf1bc94f44d1003aafb0d5c3868b

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The British then did similar later in the war along Bomber flight paths in hopes to increase the odds of survival for aircrew.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-af466afe2317a85ac727160f5f7cf4b8

https://www.readkong.com/static/3c/e2/3ce2f065de91c1da0d2647e41a2105be/air-sea-rescue-dumb-barges-called-6000887-2.jpg
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That got me to wondering: how were they maintained?  Did small RN craft go out and check on these?  Were they pilferable?  Subject to attack?   Was there even commercial traffic in the Channel, fishing boats and etc?
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Originally Posted By junker46:

That got me to wondering: how were they maintained?  Did small RN craft go out and check on these?  Were they pilferable?  Subject to attack?   Was there even commercial traffic in the Channel, fishing boats and etc?
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All those questions plus how many aircrew ended up using them?
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Whoa! That's pretty cool that they repurposed them without tearing them down
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If I recall correctly they wanted to destroy the towers but they were exceptionally well built and made to withstand bombardment. Cheaper to repurpose
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If I recall correctly they wanted to destroy the towers but they were exceptionally well built and made to withstand bombardment. Cheaper to repurpose
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If I recall correctly they wanted to destroy the towers but they were exceptionally well built and made to withstand bombardment. Cheaper to repurpose


"Exceptionally" is a significant understatement.  
Attempts were made to destroy a couple of them.

The core of this flak tower is still standing under a pile of rubble from clean up of the surrounding city.






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Originally Posted By junker46:

That got me to wondering: how were they maintained?  Did small RN craft go out and check on these?  Were they pilferable?  Subject to attack?   Was there even commercial traffic in the Channel, fishing boats and etc?
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer:
Churchill said that his orders to attack the Clearly Marked Red Cross on White German Air Sea Rescue Aircraft was one factor that would end his days as a "War Criminal" if Britain were to lose WWII.


The Germans placed Rescue Buoys in the English Channel for Aircrew refuge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_buoy_(Luftwaffe)

https://wtffunfact.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/WTF-Fun-Fact-Rettungsboje.png

https://external-preview.redd.it/0SWmpK-2I7u24adZq_7M-XSqD8H7WTZb5OoVGlmjqac.jpg?auto=webp&s=42bfa69b45aacf1bc94f44d1003aafb0d5c3868b

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/qvQw7vPnzsSmfm3VcrZeQw-cmBh00xHisk9ORnaMNUCrZGXQ6Rx22iI_oFPvE_u02GogG_GAMZAag7SJ-BSrp2Ci2iO9n4mBDlr-GQ



The British then did similar later in the war along Bomber flight paths in hopes to increase the odds of survival for aircrew.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-af466afe2317a85ac727160f5f7cf4b8

https://www.readkong.com/static/3c/e2/3ce2f065de91c1da0d2647e41a2105be/air-sea-rescue-dumb-barges-called-6000887-2.jpg

That got me to wondering: how were they maintained?  Did small RN craft go out and check on these?  Were they pilferable?  Subject to attack?   Was there even commercial traffic in the Channel, fishing boats and etc?



The British would send out check boats periodically to verify Rescue Buoys were in position, stocked & ready with no incapacitated people (or bodies) on board.

The Buoys had A Radio set, along with Marker Flags & Flares to signal when someone was there and needed rescue.

Could you pilfer?  guess so - they were unlocked so any aircrew who could make it to one could enter, dry off, eat, drink and call for rescue.  

Could be subject to attack, but as they could be life savers to BOTH Germans & Allied Pilots, (and a pilot never knew when they might end up REALLY needing one), the General Consensus was they were like a ambulance or red cross tent & to leave them alone.

There was lot of traffic in the English Channel throughout the war.   The English used the commercial ports for shipping along the British coastline.  Of course Royal Navy Ships constantly on patrol or raids across the channel.  Germans would send Destroyers or E-boats back to do the same.  

One of the Largest Losses of life in the D-day invasion was when German E-boats ambushed Allied LSTs practicing for the invasion at Slapton Sands in "Exercise Tiger".   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Tiger   749 Americans were killed that night...
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Originally Posted By Dog1:
While the picture is not from World War II, the Browning M2 that my son was working on in the Armory at Camp Pendleton is from World War II. It says stamped on the side-

AC Spark Plug, Flint, Michigan

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They're out there. I qualified with an AC Spark Plug made M2 circa 2000.
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I consider myself fairly knowledgeable of WWII and just learned about flak towers
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Nice field-expedient nose modification on an F model.



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Another angle...notice the gun hanging off to the side

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Originally Posted By 22caliberKIDD:


Another angle...notice the gun hanging off to the side

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Originally Posted By 22caliberKIDD:


Another angle...notice the gun hanging off to the side

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You caught the post before my edit.  

That pic was of a G model with a chin turret. Most of them also had additional nose armament as pictured there.
The effectiveness of the field modifications leads to the chin turret and other mods to the aircraft. Head-on attacks were always a problem. I don't remember if that was flack damage or not.
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Do 217 with prototype Me 328, all wood pulse jet powered parasite fighter.  Development unsuccessful due to excessive vibration:

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Later prototype relocated engines under the wings, an unbuilt version would have had a total of four engines in both locations:
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