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Posted: 10/22/2017 9:07:34 PM EDT
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Somebody explain this to me:
Photoshopped? I have to check if the turret ring diameter is even the same. |
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Posted: 10/22/2017 10:33:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: E-95]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50:
Somebody explain this to me: https://i.pinimg.com/236x/75/2c/33/752c330ec21e73339b814dd29503b9b3.jpg Photoshopped? I have to check if the turret ring diameter is even the same. 
Turret Ring Diameter Panther 165cm Tiger 183cm |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:31:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Riter]
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Thanks E-95.
We had ten of these light cruisers in WW II. While very respectable in comparison to other nations in the 1920s, by the 1940s they were long in the tooth. 
The British and the Japanese navies had some older designs. HMS Ceres: 
HMS Dunedin (sunk by U-124): 
HMS Emerald: 
Her sister the HMS Enterprise had a dual gun turret and the turret design was repeated in the Leander class, Arethusa and Perth (improved Leanders) class light cruisers. 
The IJN had some old cruisers too. This is the Isuzu before she was converted to an AA cruiser: 
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Posted: 10/23/2017 6:47:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: somedude]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50:
Somebody explain this to me: https://i.pinimg.com/236x/75/2c/33/752c330ec21e73339b814dd29503b9b3.jpg Photoshopped? I have to check if the turret ring diameter is even the same. I know some are just paper panzers, or just mockups somebody came up with.  Attached Fileimage is fuzzy and too small 
probably a one off , but did see a lot of variants of t-34 in post war Arab armies. 
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Posted: 10/23/2017 7:03:27 PM EDT
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This thread continues to deliver.
Some of these pictures are incredible. Thanks for finding, posting, and captioning gentlemen. 
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Posted: 10/23/2017 7:34:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lead-slinger:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/225920/DC00241C-4ABA-4A76-9754-FEE6757792AC-341108.JPG I could not get a picture from below as the trail was closed in the winter. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/225920/E4923E66-BB36-4565-A834-7342F469F511-341109.JPG |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 7:41:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hrt4me:
looks like Mauthausen... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hrt4me:
Originally Posted By Lead-slinger:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/225920/DC00241C-4ABA-4A76-9754-FEE6757792AC-341108.JPG I could not get a picture from below as the trail was closed in the winter. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/225920/E4923E66-BB36-4565-A834-7342F469F511-341109.JPG |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:35:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:01:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers:
I believe those are Allied POW's being worked to death at Mathausen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers:
Originally Posted By hrt4me:
Originally Posted By Lead-slinger:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/225920/DC00241C-4ABA-4A76-9754-FEE6757792AC-341108.JPG I could not get a picture from below as the trail was closed in the winter. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/225920/E4923E66-BB36-4565-A834-7342F469F511-341109.JPG |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:08:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:10:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:12:46 PM EDT
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Holland
Dutch Mortar team 
Hunger Winter 
Lancasters approaching the drop zone with excited citizens below. 
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Posted: 10/24/2017 3:59:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somedude:
they have model kits of a similar one, not sure if it was something tried at a field repair with leftover parts or at the factory. also seen the panther with a panzer IV turret and a I think a puma turret or was that a panzer IV with a puma turret which is a bit smaller. I know some are just paper panzers, or just mockups somebody came up with. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/91913/C_DRA6683_00-341967.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/24/2017 6:15:10 AM EDT
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And if somebody entered a plastic or rc scale model in a contest with anything other than crisply defined invasion stripe lines, they would most suredly lose points from the judges. |
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Posted: 10/24/2017 6:32:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/24/2017 3:51:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Birddog1911]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somedude:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/91913/10498436-1457681484500864-1105002572514635444-o-125366.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/24/2017 9:41:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Riter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somedude:
they have model kits of a similar one, not sure if it was something tried at a field repair with leftover parts or at the factory. also seen the panther with a panzer IV turret and a I think a puma turret or was that a panzer IV with a puma turret which is a bit smaller. I know some are just paper panzers, or just mockups somebody came up with. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/91913/C_DRA6683_00-341967.JPG image is fuzzy and too small https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DojugtnmWUs/U3XWQ1dpA3I/AAAAAAAAZgc/Zypt4I1tovM/s1600/Dragon+Pz+V+A+%2528early%2529+%252B+Tamiya+Pz+IV+H.jpg http://www.militarymodelling.com/sites/1/images/member_albums/129129/633207.jpg Probably a one off , but did see a lot of variants of t-34 in post war Arab armies. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8361/8311897536_66c6a1f154_z.jpg Here's another human guided torpedo. 
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Posted: 10/24/2017 10:22:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: somedude]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50:
I notice there is a Ferdinand command Tiger tank there. Here's another human guided torpedo. https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fiainballantyne.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F06%2FGERMAN-TORPEDO.jpg&f=1 
Tunisia 
Patton 
RAF 
b-17 ball turret helps show how cramped it was. 
U-boat under attack 
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Posted: 10/24/2017 10:37:37 PM EDT
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German command tanks had no gun so as to have more room for mapboards and additional radios.
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Posted: 10/24/2017 10:37:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911:
Interestingly, just stumbled upon this pic of the same type of weapon. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/180161/Sub-342854.JPG Is that a small scale prototype of the manned torp? As it simply looks far too small to fit a pilot compared to the GI's looking at it. |
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Posted: 10/24/2017 10:43:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/24/2017 11:59:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: E-95]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50:
German command tanks had no gun so as to have more room for mapboards and additional radios. https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2Feb69e7b0d6716ec502c8a1701691932d%2Ftumblr_n1b5z8mDqO1r0ntwbo1_500.jpg&f=1 ETA: Here's a Panzerbefehlswagen III Ausf. K: 
The way I was always able to tell if it was a command track is if it had the sternantenne D (star antenna model D used on panzers). Well, that is once they stopped using the large frame antenna that you'd frequently see on vehicles like the Sd.Kfz. 251 and earlier model panzers. And here are a Panther Ausf. D and a PzKpfw III command tracks: 
You could also generally tell by the track number. They were very logical in the tactical numbering used on tracks. The first number was normally the company, the second the platoon, and third the track in that platoon. So for example 314 would be the 3rd company, 1st platoon, 4th track. My understanding was that command models were utilized above the company level. So the command track for say the 2nd regiment XO could be II02. Or it might be R02. There really wasn't a Heer or Waffen SS standard for the first character in a command tracks tactical number. So that Panther above numbered I01 was probably the 1st battalion CO's track. The PzKpfw III was maybe the regimental CO's. Hell, I've seen a command Tiger with just a B on the turret and panzer regiment CO's track numbered just 01. |
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Posted: 10/25/2017 12:22:31 AM EDT
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You and I have had quite some discussions on this subject.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By E-95:
That's actually a Panzerbeobachtungswagen (observation track), not a Panzerbefehlswagen (command track). Hold on, let me find a photo of a PzKpfw III command track. Here's a Panzerbefehlswagen III Ausf. K: http://forum.valka.cz/files/panzerbefehlswagen_iii_ausf_k_203.jpg The way I was always able to tell if it was a command track is if it had the sternantenne D (star antenna model D used on panzers). Well, that is once they were stopped using the large frame antenna that you'd frequently see on vehicles like the Sd.Kfz. 251 and earlier model panzers. And here are a Panther Ausf. D and a PzKpfw III command tracks: http://www.manufaktur.dk/panzer110507.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By E-95:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
German command tanks had no gun so as to have more room for mapboards and additional radios. https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2Feb69e7b0d6716ec502c8a1701691932d%2Ftumblr_n1b5z8mDqO1r0ntwbo1_500.jpg&f=1 Here's a Panzerbefehlswagen III Ausf. K: http://forum.valka.cz/files/panzerbefehlswagen_iii_ausf_k_203.jpg The way I was always able to tell if it was a command track is if it had the sternantenne D (star antenna model D used on panzers). Well, that is once they were stopped using the large frame antenna that you'd frequently see on vehicles like the Sd.Kfz. 251 and earlier model panzers. And here are a Panther Ausf. D and a PzKpfw III command tracks: http://www.manufaktur.dk/panzer110507.jpg |
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Posted: 10/25/2017 12:27:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers:
You and I have had quite some discussions on this subject. 
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Posted: 10/25/2017 4:51:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50:
I notice there is a Ferdinand command Tiger tank there. Ferdinand was the tank destroyer built on the tiger chassis. Tiger Command Tank:  Attached FileBuilt from a Porsche Tiger Prototype:  Attached FileFerdinand:  Attached FileElefant:  Attached FileThicker frontal armor, Zimmerit, a ball mounted MG34 and a commander cupola were added. |
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Posted: 10/25/2017 12:38:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: E-95]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
It's a Tiger, not a Ferdinand. Ferdinand was the tank destroyer built on the tiger chassis. Tiger Command Tank: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/201300/pt1-343456.JPG Built from a Porsche Tiger Prototype: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/201300/pt2-343454.JPG Ferdinand: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/201300/ferdinand-343458.JPG Elefant: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/201300/elefant-343459.JPG Thicker frontal armor, Zimmerit, a ball mounted MG34 and a commander cupola were added. |
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Posted: 10/26/2017 7:30:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By E-95:
That is the only VK 45.01 (P) prototype of the roughly 100 chassis produced that wasn't made into a Ferdinand. It served as a command track in Panzerjäger Abteilung 653. Grave for Seven Brothers (Rooskie nickname for the M-3). This one is partially camouflaged as a truck: 
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Posted: 10/26/2017 10:14:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66:
j And if somebody entered a plastic or rc scale model in a contest with anything other than crisply defined invasion stripe lines, they would most suredly lose points from the judges. |
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Posted: 10/28/2017 12:38:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/28/2017 3:28:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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Posted: 10/28/2017 7:39:03 PM EDT
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Hitler does have a Charlie Chaplin like look.
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Posted: 10/31/2017 7:01:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/1/2017 4:54:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/1/2017 8:55:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI always enjoy seeing captured aircraft.
Saw some of these fw190s were painted red. |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 9:35:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: somedude]
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US Army uniforms 1941 
German and Italians 
British Infantry in Arezzo Italy 
A British crew of a 4th Royal Tank Regiment Matilda tank mingle with South Africans 
Funeral in the Aleutians 
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:28:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWonder if that is on the ferry flight back to the US? I thought most were partially disassembled and shipped back. Trying to think where one of the captured aircraft would have been flown near that much open water with islands. Most of the captured aircraft evaluation was done in the Midwest.
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:56:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: somedude]
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Bison
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Posted: 11/2/2017 10:28:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2017 10:29:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2017 10:30:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2017 10:59:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2017 11:01:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2017 11:04:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2017 11:10:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2017 11:34:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2017 12:09:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Troll_toes]
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Posted: 11/3/2017 12:11:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2017 1:37:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jblomenberg16:
Wonder if that is on the ferry flight back to the US? I thought most were partially disassembled and shipped back. Trying to think where one of the captured aircraft would have been flown near that much open water with islands. Most of the captured aircraft evaluation was done in the Midwest. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jblomenberg16:
captured German Focke-Wulf Fw 190 fighter tested by the U.S. Navy Naval Air Test Center Patuxent River, Maryland (USA) in March 1944 |
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