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Link Posted: 8/26/2018 4:18:38 PM EDT
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Uncle Ho with his OSS buddies.



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Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:10:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:

Interesting.  Wonder if they are training or decoys.  I know the US had a whole decoy army (Think it was operation Quicksilver) in the months leading up to the D-day invasions.   With as much effort as some of those last pictures seem to have taken to replicate visual details I wonder if they are actually decoys.
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They were training equipment/props to help teach infantry how to attack tanks.  If you go to the "What book are you reading now?" in the history section, I mention a book that discusses these vehicles.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 9:31:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4v50:

They were training equipment/props to help teach infantry how to attack tanks.  If you go to the "What book are you reading now?" in the history section, I mention a book that discusses these vehicles.
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Thanks, will check that out!
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 10:19:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Riter] [#4]
Graf Spee with dummy secondary turret.  She was supposed to look like the British cruisers HMS Exeter or York.  Note her 2D flat dummy funnel.



Here is the Exeter



and the HMS York



The KMS Scheer (sister to Graf Spee) did the same thing but by raising her two outer guns and lowering her center one to stimulate a three turret cruiser.  It worked too.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 10:28:43 AM EDT
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Dirt battleship target:



How about a Mogami class cruiser target?



The British were playing Cola Warrior before Arfcom:



Wicker dummy anyone?

Link Posted: 8/27/2018 11:06:34 AM EDT
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Seattle.  Boeing Plant is beneath the camouflage:



Here is a photo of Brest, France with the KMS Hipper in drydock:

Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:53:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Seattle.  Boeing Plant is beneath the camouflage:

https://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/10292976-3262-11e6-98ae-e0b3e80c9306-1020x712.jpg

Here is a photo of Brest, France with the KMS Hipper in drydock:

http://ww2today.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Aerial-image-of-attack-on-Brest.jpg
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The Boeing plant was a lot of work, and totally ineffective.  They thought maybe the enemy wouldn't notice a brand-new neighborhood next to a huge airfield?  Also, the parking lots weren't covered at all, and since they surrounded the plant on 3 sides, kind of marked it pretty clearly.  The aircraft plants in SoCal had the same issues.  I'll have to find the book, but it talks about aerial photoreconnaissance during WW2 and points out that both sides wasted a LOT of effort that could have been avoided by just thinking it through for a minute.  Like the German uboat camouflage that routinely got advanced as they boats were built, allowing construction progress to be accurately gauged without ever seeing the boats
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 3:53:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Phocks:

The Boeing plant was a lot of work, and totally ineffective.  They thought maybe the enemy wouldn't notice a brand-new neighborhood next to a huge airfield?  Also, the parking lots weren't covered at all, and since they surrounded the plant on 3 sides, kind of marked it pretty clearly.  The aircraft plants in SoCal had the same issues.  I'll have to find the book, but it talks about aerial photoreconnaissance during WW2 and points out that both sides wasted a LOT of effort that could have been avoided by just thinking it through for a minute.  Like the German uboat camouflage that routinely got advanced as they boats were built, allowing construction progress to be accurately gauged without ever seeing the boats
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Was going to ask that very question.   Seems like a good idea poorly executed.
Link Posted: 8/28/2018 8:33:50 PM EDT
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Another angle of Boeing:





More camouflage:




Link Posted: 8/28/2018 9:45:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Graf Spee with dummy secondary turret.  She was supposed to look like the British cruisers HMS Exeter or York.  Note her 2D flat dummy funnel.

https://www.deutschland-class.dk/admiral_graf_spee/gallery/pictures/gallgrafspeeindisquise/gallgrafspeeindisquise03.jpg

Here is the Exeter

http://www.naval-history.net/Photo06caExeter1NP.jpg

and the HMS York

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/HMS_York_secured.jpg

The KMS Scheer (sister to Graf Spee) did the same thing but by raising her two outer guns and lowering her center one to stimulate a three turret cruiser.  It worked too.
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Im amazed at the portholes below the main deck
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 8:31:28 PM EDT
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Douglas MacArthur once commanded the Pacific theatre of war from Bankstown Austrailia


Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:22:59 PM EDT
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Hope it's okay to post this one

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My grandpap on the right. Not sure of the location but I could probably find out. Quality is poor because i had to take a picture of a picture. He passed in 83'
Link Posted: 8/30/2018 1:15:24 AM EDT
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I know a fellow who served as a mechanic during WW II.  Part of his exam was to go to the scrap pile of broken motorcycles and assemble a working machine.  He did.
Link Posted: 8/30/2018 9:58:54 AM EDT
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Very few of these were captured by the Germans:

Note the German cupola on this hexangonal turret T-34/76:


The last image is obviously a post war image with wrecked vehicles collected at a central point.
Link Posted: 8/31/2018 10:13:47 PM EDT
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Marines with Captured Japanese 76,2 mm Naval Gun Type 3 Kukum Guadalcanal 1942


US Marines cross the Matanikau River on Guadalcanal on a raft ferry in November 1942




Link Posted: 9/6/2018 11:20:51 AM EDT
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Ground crew.
Link Posted: 9/6/2018 12:21:08 PM EDT
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Two pics of my Grandfather in the ETO with his Carbine.
Capt. RP McElroy, Operations Officer, 393 Inf Btn, 99th Inf Div.

First one in Germany in 1945, right seat of Jeep with Carbine in his lap.
Taken in Landshut between April 30th and May 1st.
This was the last big battle they were in.

Second pic taken around the time of the Battle Of The Bulge in 1944.
He's on the right. This was taken before the Germans attacked I'm pretty sure.
When the Germans attacked he was up on the line and his position was overrun/by passed
by the fast moving German armor. A GI reached out to my Grandmother in the 80's and credited my
Grandfather and another officer for saving their lives and getting them back to US lines.

A true bad ass.
Link Posted: 9/7/2018 11:06:38 PM EDT
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A few of my grandfather on the USS Enright, the bottom one is in Oran, Algeria IIRC

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Link Posted: 9/21/2018 6:35:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/21/2018 6:39:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/21/2018 7:47:18 PM EDT
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KMT tankers with Soviet supplied T-26
Link Posted: 9/21/2018 9:21:00 PM EDT
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Any idea what, where, and when?  Dad is first on the left in the foreground.

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Link Posted: 9/21/2018 9:24:40 PM EDT
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Bet it's Hawaii.  Got streetcar tracks, corrugated metal roof.

This isn't Hawaii, but it's a camouflaged airfield. Note the painted 2D houses.

Link Posted: 9/21/2018 9:26:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Bet it's Hawaii.  Got streetcar tracks, corrugated metal roof.
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The sign has the city name on it.
Link Posted: 9/21/2018 9:27:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By luv_the_huskers:

The sign has the city name on it.
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I thought it was bar , but it could be the RR/Street Car stop for the city.
Link Posted: 9/21/2018 9:36:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
Any idea what, where, and when?  Dad is first on the left in the foreground.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/IMG_20140622_0005-678899.JPG
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Pearl City is outside of Pearl Harbor. I presume that's the train station that probably took them over to Honolulu.
Link Posted: 9/21/2018 10:01:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By birdbarian:

Pearl City is outside of Pearl Harbor. I presume that's the train station that probably took them over to Honolulu.
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Always thought as much. Knowing my dad, he didn't look like that on the ride back.
Link Posted: 9/21/2018 11:51:20 PM EDT
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God Bless Him.
Link Posted: 9/22/2018 7:24:38 AM EDT
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My Dad who recently passed away.

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Link Posted: 9/22/2018 7:29:35 AM EDT
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Some pics from a Cousin that was in the navy.
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Link Posted: 9/22/2018 8:07:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
They were training equipment/props to help teach infantry how to attack tanks.  If you go to the "What book are you reading now?" in the history section, I mention a book that discusses these vehicles.
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:

Interesting.  Wonder if they are training or decoys.  I know the US had a whole decoy army (Think it was operation Quicksilver) in the months leading up to the D-day invasions.   With as much effort as some of those last pictures seem to have taken to replicate visual details I wonder if they are actually decoys.
They were training equipment/props to help teach infantry how to attack tanks.  If you go to the "What book are you reading now?" in the history section, I mention a book that discusses these vehicles.
Not american, german
One or two definitely made to look like a soviet T-34
The top photo you can see the soldier at the side of the tank is wearing a german helmet and jackboots.
Link Posted: 9/22/2018 9:45:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JQ66:

Not american, german
One or two definitely made to look like a soviet T-34
The top photo you can see the soldier at the side of the tank is wearing a german helmet and jackboots.
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Yes, they were German training equipment captured by the Americans.
Link Posted: 9/28/2018 12:34:22 AM EDT
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Soviet T-50 tank used by Finns.  Note the masher above the turret:


Oppski:



Tiger!
Link Posted: 9/28/2018 11:05:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Soviet T-50 tank used by Finns.  Note the masher above the turret:
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Purpose?
Link Posted: 9/28/2018 7:45:11 PM EDT
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If used for training the grenade up there might be because many tank commanders fought with a open hatch. So maybe chance to wound kill or just deafen the Tc is my guess.

Also early in the war many Soviet tanks did not have a radio just the company command tank I think it was and they used flags and hand signals to communicate.

If attacked from the rear they could not communicate it to the column much at all.
Link Posted: 9/29/2018 10:47:55 PM EDT
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not sure if training or an inspection, note the youths.
Link Posted: 9/30/2018 7:52:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Smallbore_Freak:

Purpose?  
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SWAG, it's for clearing off any unwanted infantry.
Link Posted: 10/2/2018 8:06:56 AM EDT
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Found this on FB

M4A3, Cologne Germany 1945.

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Link Posted: 10/2/2018 7:14:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/2/2018 8:28:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/2/2018 9:21:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:
That swept wing jet is interesting.   Any more about it?  Looks like an ME 262 tail, but swept wings and perhaps fuselage mounted engines, much like the Bell P59.
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The ultimate aerodynamic development of the Messerschmitt Me 262 – the HG III. It was to be powered by a pair of HeS 011 engines buried in its wing roots, its wings had a 45 degree sweep-back and its pilot sat beneath a low profile Rennkabine or ‘racing cabin’ canopy
https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2017/05/04/hg-hochgeschwindigkeits-jager/
Link Posted: 10/2/2018 9:31:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/2/2018 9:59:35 PM EDT
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Since I'm reading about the Navajo Code Talkers:




We also had Commanche Code Talkers who served in Europe.  Code Talking goes back to WW I when Lakota and other tribes were used.
Link Posted: 10/2/2018 10:09:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Since I'm reading about the Navajo Code Talkers:

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F160907143620-navajo-code-talkers-3-exlarge-169.jpg&f=1
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/140604181221-01-chester-nez-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

We also had Commanche Code Talkers who served in Europe.  Code Talking goes back to WW I when Lakota and other tribes were used.
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They also used Lakota speakers in WWII. The last of which died on the reservation here a year or two ago IIRC.
Link Posted: 10/3/2018 2:59:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:

That swept wing jet is interesting.   Any more about it?  Looks like an ME 262 tail, but swept wings and perhaps fuselage mounted engines, much like the Bell P59.
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I’m glad someone caught that...and people wonder why I am obsessed with German WWII aviation.
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Link Posted: 10/3/2018 11:23:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Colt_sporter:

I’m glad someone caught that...and people wonder why I am obsessed with German WWII aviation.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/66C82456-5296-4C44-910A-428389D8FD1D-691699.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/00BEC5A2-9097-4FE2-BB55-CA6CBF3D0DBB-691700.JPG
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Clearly the Nazi party had some serious issues in terms of social agendas.   But the focus on technology development was  world class at the time and without question influenced the tech advancements noted in the next 20 or so years of powered flight, both in rockets and in conventional aircraft.

I've always wondered just how much would have come out of those engineers if they were on the allied side vs. the axis side and always dealing with shrinking resources and always being on the run.
Link Posted: 10/6/2018 1:09:18 PM EDT
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Prototype Russian close air support attempt. It took 100 man hours to reload the guns.
Link Posted: 10/6/2018 1:43:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
Prototype Russian close air support attempt. It took 100 man hours to reload the guns.
https://i.redd.it/cjgy3737cgq11.jpg
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What VVS aircraft is that?
Link Posted: 10/6/2018 1:48:54 PM EDT
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What VVS aircraft is that?
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The article didn't say.  Maybe a lend/lease B-25?
Link Posted: 10/6/2018 2:34:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
Prototype Russian close air support attempt. It took 100 man hours to reload the guns.
https://i.redd.it/cjgy3737cgq11.jpg
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88 rounds per man hour?
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