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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16: Interesting. Wonder if they are training or decoys. I know the US had a whole decoy army (Think it was operation Quicksilver) in the months leading up to the D-day invasions. With as much effort as some of those last pictures seem to have taken to replicate visual details I wonder if they are actually decoys. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Seattle. Boeing Plant is beneath the camouflage: https://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/10292976-3262-11e6-98ae-e0b3e80c9306-1020x712.jpg Here is a photo of Brest, France with the KMS Hipper in drydock: http://ww2today.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Aerial-image-of-attack-on-Brest.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Phocks: The Boeing plant was a lot of work, and totally ineffective. They thought maybe the enemy wouldn't notice a brand-new neighborhood next to a huge airfield? Also, the parking lots weren't covered at all, and since they surrounded the plant on 3 sides, kind of marked it pretty clearly. The aircraft plants in SoCal had the same issues. I'll have to find the book, but it talks about aerial photoreconnaissance during WW2 and points out that both sides wasted a LOT of effort that could have been avoided by just thinking it through for a minute. Like the German uboat camouflage that routinely got advanced as they boats were built, allowing construction progress to be accurately gauged without ever seeing the boats View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Graf Spee with dummy secondary turret. She was supposed to look like the British cruisers HMS Exeter or York. Note her 2D flat dummy funnel. https://www.deutschland-class.dk/admiral_graf_spee/gallery/pictures/gallgrafspeeindisquise/gallgrafspeeindisquise03.jpg Here is the Exeter http://www.naval-history.net/Photo06caExeter1NP.jpg and the HMS York https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/HMS_York_secured.jpg The KMS Scheer (sister to Graf Spee) did the same thing but by raising her two outer guns and lowering her center one to stimulate a three turret cruiser. It worked too. View Quote |
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Attached File My grandpap on the right. Not sure of the location but I could probably find out. Quality is poor because i had to take a picture of a picture. He passed in 83' |
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I know a fellow who served as a mechanic during WW II. Part of his exam was to go to the scrap pile of broken motorcycles and assemble a working machine. He did.
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Attached File Two pics of my Grandfather in the ETO with his Carbine. Capt. RP McElroy, Operations Officer, 393 Inf Btn, 99th Inf Div. First one in Germany in 1945, right seat of Jeep with Carbine in his lap. Taken in Landshut between April 30th and May 1st. This was the last big battle they were in. Second pic taken around the time of the Battle Of The Bulge in 1944. He's on the right. This was taken before the Germans attacked I'm pretty sure. When the Germans attacked he was up on the line and his position was overrun/by passed by the fast moving German armor. A GI reached out to my Grandmother in the 80's and credited my Grandfather and another officer for saving their lives and getting them back to US lines. A true bad ass. |
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A few of my grandfather on the USS Enright, the bottom one is in Oran, Algeria IIRC
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
Any idea what, where, and when? Dad is first on the left in the foreground. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/IMG_20140622_0005-678899.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
They were training equipment/props to help teach infantry how to attack tanks. If you go to the "What book are you reading now?" in the history section, I mention a book that discusses these vehicles. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 4v50:
Originally Posted By jblomenberg16: Interesting. Wonder if they are training or decoys. I know the US had a whole decoy army (Think it was operation Quicksilver) in the months leading up to the D-day invasions. With as much effort as some of those last pictures seem to have taken to replicate visual details I wonder if they are actually decoys. One or two definitely made to look like a soviet T-34 The top photo you can see the soldier at the side of the tank is wearing a german helmet and jackboots. |
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If used for training the grenade up there might be because many tank commanders fought with a open hatch. So maybe chance to wound kill or just deafen the Tc is my guess.
Also early in the war many Soviet tanks did not have a radio just the company command tank I think it was and they used flags and hand signals to communicate. If attacked from the rear they could not communicate it to the column much at all. |
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Originally Posted By Colt_sporter:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/78931675-32BA-4CFD-BE16-8AA53C5A4A42-690856.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/B8670F9B-9A65-4D17-A3FF-DA0023DCC805-690858.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/D7674958-EFB4-4150-B443-EB13B6B4CE3D-690860.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/A3A27B80-93EB-44D7-AE57-462FD7B8D793-690861.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/F0DAD489-ABBC-49B4-A089-4A79E3BE7930-690862.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:
That swept wing jet is interesting. Any more about it? Looks like an ME 262 tail, but swept wings and perhaps fuselage mounted engines, much like the Bell P59. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:
Originally Posted By Colt_sporter:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/78931675-32BA-4CFD-BE16-8AA53C5A4A42-690856.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/B8670F9B-9A65-4D17-A3FF-DA0023DCC805-690858.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/D7674958-EFB4-4150-B443-EB13B6B4CE3D-690860.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/A3A27B80-93EB-44D7-AE57-462FD7B8D793-690861.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/F0DAD489-ABBC-49B4-A089-4A79E3BE7930-690862.JPG The ultimate aerodynamic development of the Messerschmitt Me 262 – the HG III. It was to be powered by a pair of HeS 011 engines buried in its wing roots, its wings had a 45 degree sweep-back and its pilot sat beneath a low profile Rennkabine or ‘racing cabin’ canopy |
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Since I'm reading about the Navajo Code Talkers: https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F160907143620-navajo-code-talkers-3-exlarge-169.jpg&f=1 http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/140604181221-01-chester-nez-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg We also had Commanche Code Talkers who served in Europe. Code Talking goes back to WW I when Lakota and other tribes were used. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:
That swept wing jet is interesting. Any more about it? Looks like an ME 262 tail, but swept wings and perhaps fuselage mounted engines, much like the Bell P59. View Quote Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Colt_sporter: I’m glad someone caught that...and people wonder why I am obsessed with German WWII aviation. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/66C82456-5296-4C44-910A-428389D8FD1D-691699.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/00BEC5A2-9097-4FE2-BB55-CA6CBF3D0DBB-691700.JPG View Quote I've always wondered just how much would have come out of those engineers if they were on the allied side vs. the axis side and always dealing with shrinking resources and always being on the run. |
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
Prototype Russian close air support attempt. It took 100 man hours to reload the guns. https://i.redd.it/cjgy3737cgq11.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
Prototype Russian close air support attempt. It took 100 man hours to reload the guns. https://i.redd.it/cjgy3737cgq11.jpg View Quote |
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