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Posted: 2/13/2020 2:23:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By redleg13a: Our guys did that in the Pacific. 5th Air Force pilots worked out a method to skip bomb 500lb bombs into the sides of Japanese ships. More accurate than level bombing and the Army Air Force didn't use dive bombers much. Yes, they had the A24 but they didn't really use it as much as the Navy did their SBD's. 5th Air Force also develop parafrag bombs. They used low level bombing with B-25's and A-20's but the planes would catch fragmentation from their own bombs from dropping so low. Someone came up with the idea of adding a parachute and the slower descent gave the aircraft enough time to depart the area before the bomb functioned. |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 2:36:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50:
WWI, but probably the most worthless air to air system ever. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ee/36/ca/ee36cad18e1eaf673c393241ead73e35--ww-pictures-military-pictures.jpg Those don't look like WWI MG-08 Spandaus on that rig. 
Plus the rubber tires look "Modern" ... Interesting how much of the German Army (which everyone associated with Motorized Blitzkrieg) was still was Horse Drawn though WWII. |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 4:03:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: I am pretty sure that picture is World War II German. Those don't look like WWI MG-08 Spandaus on that rig.
Plus the rubber tires look "Modern" ... Interesting how much of the German Army (which everyone associated with Motorized Blitzkrieg) was still was Horse Drawn though WWII. This could be a scene out of this historical documentary, Blazing Saddles. 
Good enough for Donner, good enough for soldat! 
Soviets: 
American ride-by shooting inventor 
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Posted: 2/13/2020 4:05:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By redleg13a: Our guys did that in the Pacific. 5th Air Force pilots worked out a method to skip bomb 500lb bombs into the sides of Japanese ships. More accurate than level bombing and the Army Air Force didn't use dive bombers much. Yes, they had the A24 but they didn't really use it as much as the Navy did their SBD's. 5th Air Force also develop parafrag bombs. They used low level bombing with B-25's and A-20's but the planes would catch fragmentation from their own bombs from dropping so low. Someone came up with the idea of adding a parachute and the slower descent gave the aircraft enough time to depart the area before the bomb functioned. 
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Posted: 2/13/2020 4:08:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: I am pretty sure that picture is World War II German. Those don't look like WWI MG-08 Spandaus on that rig.
Plus the rubber tires look "Modern" ... Interesting how much of the German Army (which everyone associated with Motorized Blitzkrieg) was still was Horse Drawn though WWII. |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 4:10:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2020 6:01:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By redleg13a: Our guys did that in the Pacific. 5th Air Force pilots worked out a method to skip bomb 500lb bombs into the sides of Japanese ships. More accurate than level bombing and the Army Air Force didn't use dive bombers much. Yes, they had the A24 but they didn't really use it as much as the Navy did their SBD's. 5th Air Force also develop parafrag bombs. They used low level bombing with B-25's and A-20's but the planes would catch fragmentation from their own bombs from dropping so low. Someone came up with the idea of adding a parachute and the slower descent gave the aircraft enough time to depart the area before the bomb functioned. |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 6:02:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: I am pretty sure that picture is World War II German. Those don't look like WWI MG-08 Spandaus on that rig.
Plus the rubber tires look "Modern" ... Interesting how much of the German Army (which everyone associated with Motorized Blitzkrieg) was still was Horse Drawn though WWII. |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 6:09:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Interesting, what was the name? https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0811738019?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1591143845?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1476774862?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 6:25:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50:
Japanese were terrified of the American skip bombing technique. Hara's Japanese Destroyer Captain gives a good account of it.https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/TameichiHara.jpg/220px-TameichiHara.jpg When being bombed, technique is to point the bow into the path of the oncoming bomber to make the narrowest target and prevent enemy from skip bombing into the side of the ship. But all that did was allow the B-25 crews to open up with all those forward firing 50's and decimate the bridge, deck and gun crews... US Tactic was to split into two groups so if the enemy turned into one, that first group gunned the ship and the 2nd element came from the 90 to skip bomb... The special upgunned B-25 "commerce destroyers" were ferocious attack aircraft! |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 6:26:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Derek45:
this pic is in my World War One thread https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2275/2DD28FC0-DA18-4F31-BDE8-F86A453F5445_jpe-1274807.JPG 
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Posted: 2/13/2020 6:42:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50:
Which meant that there was probably a vet (critter doc) in every regiment. I remember reading about the GIs who farm boys who were impressed by the harness and tackle the Germans had for their horses. Those poor horses did a lot of dying. This could be a scene out of this historical documentary, Blazing Saddles. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0f/b4/7d/0fb47dc0f3be319da9251a03d25441dd.jpg Good enough for Donner, good enough for soldat! https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1e/d4/62/1ed46244ff267d003f3cbda4402bb79e.jpg Soviets: http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Stalingrad-11-42.jpg American ride-by shooting inventor http://wwiiscrapbook.com/wp-content/uploads/a-03-horse_thompson-sm1.jpg |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 6:45:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 351wsl:
Is the second picture supposed to be from ww2? Looks like he has an AK on his back. |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 6:54:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer:
US Tactic was to split into two groups so if the enemy turned into one, that first group gunned the ship and the 2nd element came from the 90 to skip bomb... Yet, so many don't understand why. |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 7:24:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: The Japanese were damned if they do, and damned if they didn't When being bombed, technique is to point the bow into the path of the oncoming bomber to make the narrowest target and prevent enemy from skip bombing into the side of the ship. But all that did was allow the B-25 crews to open up with all those forward firing 50's and decimate the bridge, deck and gun crews... US Tactic was to split into two groups so if the enemy turned into one, that first group gunned the ship and the 2nd element came from the 90 to skip bomb... The special upgunned B-25 "commerce destroyers" were ferocious attack aircraft! |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 8:35:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2020 8:46:50 PM EDT
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 North American B-25s: "Winged Artillery" Restored Color 1945 |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 9:26:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2020 9:32:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1:
Then they added a 75mm gun to it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1:
Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: The Japanese were damned if they do, and damned if they didn't When being bombed, technique is to point the bow into the path of the oncoming bomber to make the narrowest target and prevent enemy from skip bombing into the side of the ship. But all that did was allow the B-25 crews to open up with all those forward firing 50's and decimate the bridge, deck and gun crews... US Tactic was to split into two groups so if the enemy turned into one, that first group gunned the ship and the 2nd element came from the 90 to skip bomb... The special upgunned B-25 "commerce destroyers" were ferocious attack aircraft!  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 10:34:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 351wsl:
Is the second picture supposed to be from ww2? Looks like he has an AK on his back. |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 9:36:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gopher:
Piper HE-1 NAS Corpus Christi, Jan 1943 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/piper_HE-1_jpg-1275093.JPG |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 10:25:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Anastasios]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jblomenberg16:
Looks like a Super Cub with a litter between the cockpit and the vert stab. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jblomenberg16:
Originally Posted By Gopher:
Piper HE-1 NAS Corpus Christi, Jan 1943 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/piper_HE-1_jpg-1275093.JPG  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 11:34:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/15/2020 11:48:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50:
You're right. Must be East German. Sorry |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 1:17:53 PM EDT
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Some of my grandfather's photos that have been retouched by the 100th Bomb Group. I want to say he piloted the 'Miss Angel', but I would have to verify that.
 He's on the left in both photos below: 
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Posted: 2/15/2020 2:22:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50:
You're right. Must be East German. Sorry Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50:
Originally Posted By 351wsl:
Is the second picture supposed to be from ww2? Looks like he has an AK on his back. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 2:51:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers:
I think it looks more like chain link fence. Probably to defeat Panzerfaust's shaped charge. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers:
Originally Posted By outofbattery: That Sherman was destroyed by a Jagdpanther along with 2 sister tanks in Uedem,German March 1945. I looked for other pics of tanks from C squadron 3rd/4th County of London Yeomanry to see if there was perhaps another picture of what exactly they piled on that tank as it's so regular shaped and found some interesting things: Looks like perhaps a trough piled on this one https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a2/64/d6/a264d65e37c3e60ea862c1c252cfa919.jpg This was neater though,look at the chicken wire on the turret https://collection.nam.ac.uk/images/960/105000-105999/105517.jpg To be used to apply wattle and daub,I guess you might call it,camouflage https://collection.nam.ac.uk/images/960/103000-103999/103771.jpg |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 4:46:10 PM EDT
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Hungarians
Note the sniper rifle on the right 
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Posted: 2/15/2020 11:03:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1:
Cool, thanks for the link...... I just bought it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1:
Originally Posted By Cyclic240B: I just finished a book/pilot memoir who flew Bf-110's for part of the war. He made due but didn't seem to have a good impression of them or their performance. An Eagle's Odyssey: My Decade as a Pilot in Hitler's Luftwaffe https://www.amazon.com/Eagles-Odyssey-Decade-Hitlers-Luftwaffe-ebook/dp/B07YL8X1S1/ |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 11:41:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeepinChamp:
Some of my grandfather's photos that have been retouched by the 100th Bomb Group. I want to say he piloted the 'Miss Angel', but I would have to verify that. https://i.imgur.com/a0cjJa7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/moSwyTd.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ImLMJWM.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Jn2EOSc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dkUHXgS.jpg He's on the left in both photos below: https://i.imgur.com/NwkHNma.jpg https://i.imgur.com/rIr1wh1.jpg |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 12:59:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 22caliberKIDD]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By armoredman:
That third one down, with the smoke trails of downed aircraft in the midst...that gave me the chills. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By armoredman:
Originally Posted By JeepinChamp:
Some of my grandfather's photos that have been retouched by the 100th Bomb Group. I want to say he piloted the 'Miss Angel', but I would have to verify that. https://i.imgur.com/a0cjJa7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/moSwyTd.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ImLMJWM.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Jn2EOSc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dkUHXgS.jpg He's on the left in both photos below: https://i.imgur.com/NwkHNma.jpg https://i.imgur.com/rIr1wh1.jpg  Attached File Attached FileTarget Indicator WIKI |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 3:48:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: armoredman]
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That would be much preferable, but I'd not heard that one before. Look at the one on top, and follow it back - looks like it exploded then went down. The smoke trail is corkscrew, too, unlike the one on the bottom, which is a smooth parabola, like what you might describe.
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Posted: 2/16/2020 4:20:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 22caliberKIDD]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By armoredman:
That would be much preferable, but I'd not heard that one before. Look at the one on top, and follow it back - looks like it exploded then went down. The smoke trail is corkscrew, too, unlike the one on the bottom, which is a smooth parabola, like what you might describe. “The Lead Squadron Bombardier was sighting for the entire Squadron. It was important that those releasing bombs in other aircraft knew the exact second his bombs left the bombay. To aid this visual sighting the first two out of Lead aircraft were "smoke markers". Their primary purpose was to assure the sighting so the Squadron drop was as compact as possible. However, the smoke markers served another purpose. They identified the general target location for following aircraft in the bomber stream. You could see them for miles. The effect of the wind at altitude would turn them into odd forms as they drifted along in their flight to the ground. I appreciated their presence a lot as it gave me time to check equipment settings one last time and prepare mentally to enter the target flak zone. Funny how little things like this remain so vivid in my mind after so many years. The mixture of smoke marker trails and darkened flak sky over Berlin was disturbing to say the least”. Some more pics, in the first one, on the right side, you can see what I believe were a bunch of smoke markers dropped earlier than than the one falling in the picture-  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 5:18:53 AM EDT
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That is very interesting. Learn something new every day.
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Posted: 2/16/2020 7:57:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2020 5:08:22 PM EDT
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Reading "The Second World War" by Antony Beevor - it's interesting the chapters that discuss American and British bombing.
The 8th Air Force's daylight bombing accuracy was almost as bad as RAF Bomber Command's night bombing accuracy. In fact, in the fall of 1944, only 7% of all bombs dropped by the 8th Air Force landed within 1,000 feet of the aiming point. It makes the loss of life (American and British air crews) that much more tragic. |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 5:12:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Reading "The Second World War" by Antony Beevor - it's interesting the chapters that discuss American and British bombing. The 8th Air Force's daylight bombing accuracy was almost as bad as RAF Bomber Command's night bombing accuracy. In fact, in the fall of 1944, only 7% of all bombs dropped by the 8th Air Force landed within 1,000 feet of the aiming point. It makes the loss of life (American and British air crews) that much more tragic. |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 8:26:27 PM EDT
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A 30,000 pound penetration bomb dropped on Hitlers bunker would have sped up the end.
Am speaking of the forged penetrator bombs that are used today. |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 1:49:59 PM EDT
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 Pacific War 1944: Truk and Saipan | 220478-34 | Footage Farm Ltd |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 1:52:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryCould the people hosting that put some more water marks and other things over the picture? God that's annoying
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Posted: 2/17/2020 2:22:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Could the people hosting that put some more water marks and other things over the picture? God that's annoying  , but FF has some stuff that I have never seen.
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Posted: 2/17/2020 5:44:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax:
I know , but FF has some stuff that I have never seen.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax:
Originally Posted By Dog1: Could the people hosting that put some more water marks and other things over the picture? God that's annoying , but FF has some stuff that I have never seen. |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 6:01:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb:
Yeah, the watermark is definitely worth the price of admission to view that combat footage. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb:
Originally Posted By 13starsinax:
Originally Posted By Dog1: Could the people hosting that put some more water marks and other things over the picture? God that's annoying , but FF has some stuff that I have never seen. |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 9:06:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/18/2020 9:07:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2020 11:09:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2020 11:19:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: John3B]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somedude:
10th mountain in Italy. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/91913/87164266_10222148078752956_5892963483963-1283380.JPG My second thought, “I wonder if the MP40 and Beretta are on the NFA register now?” |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:07:13 PM EDT
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 Attached File Attached FileRumor on the street says this is the 109 now on display at Dayton..  Attached FileThis 190 is a “mess” in my mind right now. It has characteristics from 1942-1945.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:19:02 PM EDT
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This is a 109 at dayton . Also have pics of the 190
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