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Originally Posted By PigBat: Looks like #11 are 4 half-swastikas. The things we are forced to do for political correctness View Quote Why you are correct I didn't even notice that! That's okay I've got a whole sheet downstairs of multiple scale swastikas. I'd rather put a whole one on and try to line two of them up. |
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
Originally Posted By Clockwork138: @Dog1 The Bf110 1:48 Revell kit I bought ~15-years-ago had an option for that plane. I might have the decals in my left-overs box if you're interested. View Quote I may take you up on that. Thanks for the offer. I'm going to work on a 1/72nd scale first, just to see if my right hand wants to work with me when it comes to building models in trying to paint them again LOL RML paint hell... here I come LOL |
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
Originally Posted By Dog1: Those decals have some nice instructions https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/20200520_122401-1424949.jpg View Quote Very nice, did they have 1/48? |
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Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
Behind the camera: Leni Riefenstahl and her film crew gather into place to film Hitler speaking at a Nazi rally for the film 'Triumph of the Will' in 1934 View Quote Attached File Wonder how many takes that took? |
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Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
Originally Posted By PigBat: Looks like #11 are 4 half-swastikas. The things we are forced to do for political correctness View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PigBat: Originally Posted By Dog1: Got my decals today for my 1/72nd scale Bf-110... still waiting on the kit to ship https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/20200520_113656-1424901.jpg No swastikas because it came from Germany but that's okay I've got swastikas downstairs in the hobby closet Looks like #11 are 4 half-swastikas. The things we are forced to do for political correctness German Law, no swastikas on models. |
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
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Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
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Originally Posted By 22caliberKIDD: MK 103 cannon on a Henschel Hs 129 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MK_103_cannon https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/1638CDE8-388D-4622-A383-DEDD2B897B40_jpe-1424068.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/098B3387-6769-4FB5-A066-96349FE3E26D_jpe-1424071.JPG View Quote The former Champlin Fighter Museum at Falcon Field in Mesa, AZ had a many German aircraft cannons on display in their collection. I have always wondered if the machine guns and cannon collection went to Washington with the aircraft. |
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Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
Originally Posted By 13starsinax: I follow the The Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum Ju-87 restoration. That is going to be awesome. no free loading https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/images_jpg-1421067.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/images_jpg-1421075.JPG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uvqhA4_2tU View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By jblomenberg16: How about a JU 87 for page 87. https://resize.hswstatic.com/u_0/w_480/gif/junkers-ju-87-stuka-2.jpg https://science.howstuffworks.com/junkers-ju-87-stuka.htm I follow the The Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum Ju-87 restoration. That is going to be awesome. no free loading https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/images_jpg-1421067.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/images_jpg-1421075.JPG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uvqhA4_2tU Those Jericho Trumpets are loud as hell |
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Originally Posted By PigBat: Looks like #11 are 4 half-swastikas. The things we are forced to do for political correctness View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PigBat: Originally Posted By Dog1: Got my decals today for my 1/72nd scale Bf-110... still waiting on the kit to ship https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/20200520_113656-1424901.jpg No swastikas because it came from Germany but that's okay I've got swastikas downstairs in the hobby closet Looks like #11 are 4 half-swastikas. The things we are forced to do for political correctness Yep...………....they cut them in half to prevent a swastika from being seen...………….you just put them together. I have a sheet for a T-34 "Beutepanzer" ( captured T-34 used by the Germans )that has a turret top decal for ID from the air that is the Nazi flag |
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"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
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Originally Posted By cyclone: Those Jericho Trumpets are loud as hell View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes I can not imagine the feeling of knowing here they come. He-162 Prototype number 6. Very short video, does anyone know of other flight videos? He-162 Prototype number 6. |
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Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
Originally Posted By 13starsinax: I can not imagine the feeling of knowing here they come. Very short video, does anyone know of other flight videos? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8eT48ypWLw View Quote I've seen that video before but I want to say that I've seen another video but I can't remember where |
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
Originally Posted By Dog1: I've seen that video before but I want to say that I've seen another video but I can't remember where View Quote US did testing on it postwar, and the British supposedly did more than we did. I would think there would be some footage of it. http://me109.airwar1946.nl/family/FiSk-199.htm Attached File |
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Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Since there were Ju-87 posted above with the 37mm cannon, found guncam footage of the attack runs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccOXrfBZoLE Russian shipping? Landing ships? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIcsIuPOBpk View Quote That’s the first Stuka tank buster gun cam footage I think I’ve seen. |
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Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: The St. Nazaire raid was designed to destroy the only French drydock that could handle Tirpitz so that she'd be forced to run the gauntlet back to Germany the next time she required repair. HMS Campbeltown (ex-USS Buchanan, an elderly lend lease destroyer), up armored and disguised as a German destroyer, rammed the locks and delivered commandos who spread out to destroy machinery, while accompanying torpedo boats also delivered commando teams. The sailors joined the commandos, and once ammunition was expended most of the survivors were captured by the Germans. While the captain of Campbeltown was being interrogated ashore and a contingent of German officers were investigating the ship 4.1 tons of explosives on a time delay detonator exploded in her bow, wrecking the locks and killing about 250 Germans and French civilians. The dock wasn't repaired until 1947. Germans investigate Campbeltown shortly before she explodes: https://i.imgur.com/hA703.jpg https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/8527924_f1024.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101II-MW-3722-19%2C_St._Nazaire%2C_Zerst%C3%B6rer_%22HMS_Campbeltown%22.jpg https://davidsberry.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/campelwreck.png Wreckage afterwards: http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix1/0513122.jpg View Quote I love a good raid. |
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HMS Kingston, sunk at a Malta dock by an air raid 11 April 1942. The damaged midships was scrapped and temporary bulkheads were welded to the fore and aft halves, which were refloated and towed out to be scuttled as a blockship in 1943.
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Originally Posted By Dog1: After I was sent that link I looked for 1/48 scale and he did not have any and I could not find any. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By 13starsinax: Very nice, did they have 1/48? After I was sent that link I looked for 1/48 scale and he did not have any and I could not find any. 1:48 scale Totenhand BF 110 G decals https://www.ebay.com/p/673708049 |
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
Originally Posted By birdbarian: Pretty bad ass that the Navy asked. People responded, the Navy paid and returned property where possible. I'm including Doris Miller, because he was a badass. He risked everything despite being treated as a 3rd class citizen. Doing the right thing because it is the right thing despite risk or consequences is pretty much hard to beat. https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/biographies-list/bios-m/miller-doris/jcr%3Acontent/body/media_asset/image.img.jpg/1412868947456.jpg View Quote CVN 81 USS Doris Miller |
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Especially before enough aircraft carriers were available, Allied convoys were covered by antisubmarine B-24 bombers on extreme range missions. Far beyond the range of escort fighters, when those convoys came under attack from German bombers the pilots of the 480th Antisubmarine Group chose to intercept and dogfight the Germans. One of those pilots was Hugh Maxwell Jr. commanding The Ark
Air&Space The 480th had been flying from Port Lyautey in Morocco against German U-boats for several months.... The Liberators had their share of run-ins with German airplanes. From March through October 1943, they shot down nine German aircraft, including five Condors, three Dornier flying boats, and one Junkers Ju 88 multi-role combat airplane; the 480th’s two squadrons lost three Liberators. The Liberator pilot, Hugh Maxwell Jr., now 98 and living in Altamonte Springs, Florida, had been with the 480th since early March, and had fought another Condor about a month before the August dogfight. Flying parallel courses, the two bombers fired at each other, and Maxwell’s gunners scored hits. The Condor was last seen diving into the clouds with one engine out. On August 17, the Liberator’s base at Port Lyautey had broken radio silence to warn of the Condors’ approach. Maxwell’s radar operator reported a pair of contacts 15 miles away, and his navigator calculated they would arrive over the convoy at about the same time as the Liberator. That left Maxwell no choice but to engage. The battle was spectacular. He had never flown fighters—his experience had been in B-18 and B-25 bombers—and he had never been in a dogfight, so the combat that day was the ultimate on-the-job training. He initiated the fight by diving his 28-ton bomber out of the clouds at 1,000 feet on the tail of the lead Condor. He told his gunners to hold fire until they got within range. But the Condor “fired a sighting burst and started hitting me,” he says. “I shoved the throttles and prop pitch forward and closed as fast as I could, and I opened fire. They never came out of their diving turn, and went in on fire. But boy, they had done us damage.” The second Condor, meanwhile, was firing at Maxwell from behind, and Maxwell’s gunners were returning fire. But the Liberator had lost its number-three and -four engines, and the right wing was full of holes and in flames. The bomber was especially vulnerable to attack because modifications for anti-submarine work (enabling the aircraft to carry more fuel and a maximum load of depth charges) had required removing all the armor plating that protected the crew. So when the Condor’s bullets struck, “all of us got hit by shrapnel and our hydraulic system was knocked out, our intercom radio system was knocked out, the whole instrument panel was knocked out,” Maxwell recalls. Fortunately, one of the crewmen was able to jettison the depth charges. “As I realized that our right wing would no longer fly and I couldn’t raise it, and was trying to hold left rudder and aileron, my left foot kept slipping off the rudder pedal,” says Maxwell. “I looked down and said, ‘Oh my God.’ My whole left leg and foot were covered with blood, and there was a pool of blood and it was all over that rudder pedal. And I knew I’d been hit in the left side with shrapnel. But then I realized: It ain’t blood, it’s hydraulic fluid. “At no time did I feel heroic or any of that kind of stuff,” he says. “Hell, I was scared. I didn’t want to die, but I had to do whatever I needed to do. The thing that sticks out in my mind the most was when I realized we were going to be crashing into the Atlantic Ocean, and I thought we were goners. But in a last-minute desperate effort to avoid catastrophe, I kicked in full right rudder and threw the plane into a skid, and sure enough, instead of our cartwheeling and breaking up and exploding, the water put the fire out, and the airplane broke in three pieces, but it didn’t explode or burn.” Seven of the 10 crew members survived. The second Condor was seen mushing over the waves at low altitude with its number-three engine out. The pilot was able to stay in the air; he made it back to Bordeaux, but his airplane crashed and burned on landing, according to one source. All crew members reportedly survived. Maxwell’s crew was quickly picked up by one of the convoy’s escorts, the British destroyer Highlander. It also picked up “four survivors from that lead Focke-Wulf 200, two of whom died that night because they were so badly burned,” Maxwell says. The events of the day amounted to “probably my worst experience.” View Quote Hugh Maxwell Jr. flies a B-25 at age 99: After 70 years, World War II Pilot Flies the B-25 again! Col. Maxwell passed away on July 2, 2017 at the age of 101. |
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Originally Posted By birdbarian:I'm including Doris Miller, because he was a badass. He risked everything despite being treated as a 3rd class citizen. Doing the right thing because it is the right thing despite risk or consequences is pretty much hard to beat. https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/biographies-list/bios-m/miller-doris/jcr%3Acontent/body/media_asset/image.img.jpg/1412868947456.jpg View Quote It really is interesting to compare that portrait to the modern equivalent. Current Navy dress whites are about the same (maybe exactly the same), but probably no one will ever again have the Navy Cross as their sole decoration. |
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: The St. Nazaire raid was designed to destroy the only French drydock that could handle Tirpitz so that she'd be forced to run the gauntlet back to Germany the next time she required repair. HMS Campbeltown (ex-USS Buchanan, an elderly lend lease destroyer), up armored and disguised as a German destroyer, rammed the locks and delivered commandos who spread out to destroy machinery, while accompanying torpedo boats also delivered commando teams. The sailors joined the commandos, and once ammunition was expended most of the survivors were captured by the Germans. While the captain of Campbeltown was being interrogated ashore and a contingent of German officers were investigating the ship 4.1 tons of explosives on a time delay detonator exploded in her bow, wrecking the locks and killing about 250 Germans and French civilians. The dock wasn't repaired until 1947. Germans investigate Campbeltown shortly before she explodes: https://i.imgur.com/hA703.jpg https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/8527924_f1024.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101II-MW-3722-19%2C_St._Nazaire%2C_Zerst%C3%B6rer_%22HMS_Campbeltown%22.jpg https://davidsberry.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/campelwreck.png Wreckage afterwards: http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix1/0513122.jpg View Quote An excellent documentary on YouTube https://youtu.be/07Zd0Oy8JyQ |
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Originally Posted By Thug_Hunter12: It really is interesting to compare that portrait to the modern equivalent. Current Navy dress whites are about the same (maybe exactly the same), but probably no one will ever again have the Navy Cross as their sole decoration. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Thug_Hunter12: Originally Posted By birdbarian:I'm including Doris Miller, because he was a badass. He risked everything despite being treated as a 3rd class citizen. Doing the right thing because it is the right thing despite risk or consequences is pretty much hard to beat. https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/biographies-list/bios-m/miller-doris/jcr%3Acontent/body/media_asset/image.img.jpg/1412868947456.jpg It really is interesting to compare that portrait to the modern equivalent. Current Navy dress whites are about the same (maybe exactly the same), but probably no one will ever again have the Navy Cross as their sole decoration. The Navy added blue piping to the whites at some point in the last 10ish years. When I was in, ours were exactly like his, except different material. |
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Originally Posted By Not_so_Clever: Thank you. Seems fitting to know it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Not_so_Clever: Originally Posted By MMcfpd: Originally Posted By Not_so_Clever: What was her name? Jeanne Thank you. Seems fitting to know it. I'll bet she was fun to be around. |
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#53 says, "Take 22 mg absorbed Vit C per lb plus 1 gram Chaga daily. Don't forget 2000 mg Vit D-3, 30 mg Zinc and 2 mg Cu."
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Originally Posted By 4v50: https://75nzsquadron.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/img_0017.jpg?w=625&h=463 https://www.argunners.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Royal_Air_Force_Bomber_Command_1942-1945._CE121.jpg http://ww2today.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/rear-turret-of-Lanc-lost-595x478.jpg View Quote The British had a task of dropping bombs at night, and they had a horrible time of it. The tail gunners are always mentioned in the German night fighters books. I would have lost my mind starring out into that darkness. The tail of the Wellington really does look like a shark fin. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By mizzarley
Can we all agree now that the D's and R's are the same fucks who are just pimping for control and tax dollars? |
Originally Posted By 4v50: https://75nzsquadron.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/img_0017.jpg?w=625&h=463 https://www.argunners.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Royal_Air_Force_Bomber_Command_1942-1945._CE121.jpg http://ww2today.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/rear-turret-of-Lanc-lost-595x478.jpg View Quote Tough seat to sit in...some of the Luftwaffe videos of them just pumping cannon fire into the rear gunner position always give me a sick feeling Attached File Attached File McGlashan Air Machine Gun Corporation made full auto BB gun used for training gunners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGlashan_Air_Machine_Gun Attached File |
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Originally Posted By 22caliberKIDD: Tough seat to sit in...some of the Luftwaffe videos of them just pumping cannon fire into the rear gunner position always give me a sick feeling https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/F41B056B-AA5E-49C7-B29A-E4F0F8786E77_jpe-1431635.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/909F4A7C-AC18-4337-9502-2A7A0EDFF3AD_jpe-1431636.JPG McGlashan Air Machine Gun Corporation made full auto BB gun used for training gunners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGlashan_Air_Machine_Gun https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/0BB75D34-42CC-4737-A477-9238F1EF7D38_jpe-1431639.JPG View Quote These were popular at carnivals and penny arcades in the 60s. I remember them along with the BB Tommy guns They'd put up a little star and if you obliterate the entire thing you'd win a kewpie doll or some such shit. |
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Originally Posted By 22caliberKIDD: Tough seat to sit in...some of the Luftwaffe videos of them just pumping cannon fire into the rear gunner position always give me a sick feeling https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/F41B056B-AA5E-49C7-B29A-E4F0F8786E77_jpe-1431635.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/909F4A7C-AC18-4337-9502-2A7A0EDFF3AD_jpe-1431636.JPG McGlashan Air Machine Gun Corporation made full auto BB gun used for training gunners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGlashan_Air_Machine_Gun https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/0BB75D34-42CC-4737-A477-9238F1EF7D38_jpe-1431639.JPG View Quote The 20mm was brutal and absolutely destroyed our planes. We should have dropped the .50 BMG for something at least comparable on our aircraft. My grandpa survived a tour in Europe on B-17s and I can't imagine the fear those cannon caused out aircrews. |
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Originally Posted By piccolo: I remember them along with the BB Tommy guns They'd put up a little star and if you obliterate the entire thing you'd win a kewpie doll or some such shit. View Quote I remember those back in the 80s (bb Tommy guns) at various fairs. The Villa Feast had them in The Bronx growing up. I saw one maybe a year ago at a fair somewhere. I always try them, but they're inaccurate to the point of comedy. |
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Originally Posted By piccolo: These were popular at carnivals and penny arcades in the 60s. I remember them along with the BB Tommy guns They'd put up a little star and if you obliterate the entire thing you'd win a kewpie doll or some such shit. View Quote I see you are in PA. My first thought before scrolling down and seeing your post was......Knoebles Grove. |
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Originally Posted By bodybagger: The 20mm was brutal and absolutely destroyed our planes. We should have dropped the .50 BMG for something at least comparable on our aircraft. My grandpa survived a tour in Europe on B-17s and I can't imagine the fear those cannon caused out aircrews. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bodybagger: Originally Posted By 22caliberKIDD: Tough seat to sit in...some of the Luftwaffe videos of them just pumping cannon fire into the rear gunner position always give me a sick feeling https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/F41B056B-AA5E-49C7-B29A-E4F0F8786E77_jpe-1431635.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/909F4A7C-AC18-4337-9502-2A7A0EDFF3AD_jpe-1431636.JPG McGlashan Air Machine Gun Corporation made full auto BB gun used for training gunners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGlashan_Air_Machine_Gun https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/0BB75D34-42CC-4737-A477-9238F1EF7D38_jpe-1431639.JPG The 20mm was brutal and absolutely destroyed our planes. We should have dropped the .50 BMG for something at least comparable on our aircraft. My grandpa survived a tour in Europe on B-17s and I can't imagine the fear those cannon caused out aircrews. And what would it have been. Do you even M -2 bro. |
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Originally Posted By s707bw: And what would it have been. Do you even M -2 bro. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By s707bw: Originally Posted By bodybagger: Originally Posted By 22caliberKIDD: Tough seat to sit in...some of the Luftwaffe videos of them just pumping cannon fire into the rear gunner position always give me a sick feeling https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/F41B056B-AA5E-49C7-B29A-E4F0F8786E77_jpe-1431635.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/909F4A7C-AC18-4337-9502-2A7A0EDFF3AD_jpe-1431636.JPG McGlashan Air Machine Gun Corporation made full auto BB gun used for training gunners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGlashan_Air_Machine_Gun https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/0BB75D34-42CC-4737-A477-9238F1EF7D38_jpe-1431639.JPG The 20mm was brutal and absolutely destroyed our planes. We should have dropped the .50 BMG for something at least comparable on our aircraft. My grandpa survived a tour in Europe on B-17s and I can't imagine the fear those cannon caused out aircrews. And what would it have been. Do you even M -2 bro. I would have looked hard at the French Hispano-Suiza 20mm guns or captured German guns and tooled up production of both fixed and flexible mounted 20mm aircraft guns for both aircraft and ground vehicles. I wouldn't have to have seen too many chopped up allied planes to decide the Germans had a better gun. I imagine twin 20mm guns on the gun mounts of our bombers would have made a Luftwaffe pilot even more short lived of an occupation. The M2 has it's place, but if we'd had 20mm cannons in WW2 our guys would have been field mounting 4 or 6 in the noses of planes instead of .50s. I find it remarkable that with all the innovation we did in aircraft in WW2 our innovation in their basic arnamen revolved around mounting more .50's, we didn't do much in the way of developing a bigger, heavier hitting gun. I'd wager my grandpa wasn't the only gunner then that wished he'd had a big gun like the Germans. It was probably some stodgy stubborn ass in the war department that said "Bruh!! Do you even M2???" Anytime the subject of a bigger gun came up. |
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