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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 12:39:55 AM EDT
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German trained Chinese soldier

Link Posted: 5/27/2020 12:47:14 AM EDT
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German Officers served in Nationalist China to build their army & Air forces,

K-98 8mm Mauser
C-96 Mauser
Stahlhelms
He-111s

until the Germans & Japanese became buddies...
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 8:56:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer:
German Officers served in Nationalist China to build their army & Air forces,

K-98 8mm Mauser
C-96 Mauser
Stahlhelms
He-111s

until the Germans & Japanese became buddies...
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Skoda, Krupp, and Austrian bank loans propped up China after the fall of the Manchu government.

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BUT, Japan bought more from Krupp, and Steyr.
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:


Chiang Kai-shek's son; Chiang Wei-kuo served in the Wehrmacht and almost took part in the invasion of Poland.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Chiang_Wei-kuo_Nazi_1.jpg

Chiang sent Wei-kuo to Nazi Germany for a military education at the Kriegsschule in Munich. Here, he would learn the most up to date German military tactical doctrines, organization, and use of weaponry on the modern battlefield such as the German-inspired theory of the Maschinengewehr (Medium machine gun, at this time, the MG-34) led squad, incorporation of Air and Armored branches into infantry attack, etc. After completing this training, Wei-kuo completed specialized Alpine warfare training, thus earning him the coveted Gebirgsjger Edelweiss sleeve insignia. Wei-kuo was promoted to Fahnenjunker, or Officer Candidate, and received a Schützenschnur lanyard.

Wei-kuo commanded a Panzer unit during the 1938 Austrian Anschluss as a Fhnrich, or sergeant officer-candidate, leading a tank into that country; subsequently, he was promoted to Lieutenant of a Panzer unit awaiting to be sent into Poland. Before he was given the mobilization order, he was recalled to China. Upon being recalled from Germany, Chiang Wei-kuo visited the United States as a distinguished guest of the US Army. He gave lectures detailing on German army organizations and tactics.
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That man lived a full life. Thanks for posting.

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How did the Sherman tanks get sold to China?
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 10:00:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax:


Everyone stages photos, but the Russians did it A LOT.  

These poor bastards had to do this scene 87 times
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/image-placeholder-title_jpg-1434055.JPG

We redid the Iwo flag raising more than a few times too.
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That may be the original picture.
The one released at the time was retouched to remove the many "liberated" watches on the men's wrists.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 10:38:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax:


That man lived a full life. Thanks for posting.

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I don't see where Shermans were mentioned, but the US assisted the Chiang government with the repatriation of Japanese citizens after the war, including a USMC tank battalion which handed over a few worn out M4A2's when they departed: Link  No Shermans were provided under lend lease or exported to the Nationalists.  There is a mystery Sherman that ended up in Communist hands which is still in their tank museum.

USMC repatriation assistance:


Mystery PLA Sherman on parade 1949, with a replacement or dummy gun:

Beijing tank museum; USMC, Russian Lend-Lease, or ?:

Link Posted: 5/27/2020 11:36:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
I don't see where Shermans were mentioned, but the US assisted the Chiang government with the repatriation of Japanese citizens after the war, including a USMC tank battalion which handed over a few worn out M4A2's when they departed: Link  No Shermans were provided under lend lease or exported to the Nationalists.  There is a mystery Sherman that ended up in Communist hands which is still in their tank museum.

USMC repatriation assistance:
https://i.imgur.com/mWqCEa9.jpg

Mystery PLA Sherman on parade 1949, with a replacement or dummy gun:
https://i.imgur.com/mHe94xh.jpg
Beijing tank museum; USMC, Russian Lend-Lease, or ?:
https://i.imgur.com/cxxcMVr.jpg
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
I don't see where Shermans were mentioned, but the US assisted the Chiang government with the repatriation of Japanese citizens after the war, including a USMC tank battalion which handed over a few worn out M4A2's when they departed: Link  No Shermans were provided under lend lease or exported to the Nationalists.  There is a mystery Sherman that ended up in Communist hands which is still in their tank museum.

USMC repatriation assistance:
https://i.imgur.com/mWqCEa9.jpg

Mystery PLA Sherman on parade 1949, with a replacement or dummy gun:
https://i.imgur.com/mHe94xh.jpg
Beijing tank museum; USMC, Russian Lend-Lease, or ?:
https://i.imgur.com/cxxcMVr.jpg


Thank you. Here is the quote from his wiki page, I followed links about him and eventually got to this. He also commanded tanks in India I think.
During the Chinese Civil War, Chiang Wei-kuo employed tactics he had learned whilst studying in the German Wehrmacht. He was in charge of a M4 Sherman tank battalion during the Huaihai Campaign against Mao Zedong's troops, scoring some early victories. While it was not enough to win the campaign, he was able to pull back without significant problems. Like many troops and refugees of the Kuomintang, he retreated from Shanghai to Taiwan and moved his tank regiment to Taiwan, becoming a divisional strength regiment commander of the armoured corps stationed outside of Taipei.

This is slightly out of WW2, and I do not want to de-rail. Very interesting though.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 12:00:32 PM EDT
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http://gasmasklexikon.com/Page/USA-Mil-Mikey.htm
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Walt Disney, center, shows off his studio’s proposed design of the Mickey Mouse gas mask in January 1942 to Col. George Fisher, left, chief of the Civil Defense Division,Walt Disney, center, and Maj. Gen. William Porter, right, chief of the Chemical Warfare Service. (Courtesy of U.S. Army Chemical Corps Museum, Fort Leonard Wood, Mo. /Courtesy of he U.S. Army Chemical Corps Museum, Ft. Leonard Wood, MO )
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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 2:27:48 PM EDT
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At the end of the war 6 million Japanese were scattered across Asia and the Pacific and 1 million non-Japanese were in Japan, many against their will.  191 USN ships and 188 Japanese ships including much of what was left of the IJN converted into transports executed a huge repatriation operation in 1945-1946 that trailed off into 1949: Asian Repatriation

Hosho, the world's first purpose built aircraft carrier (1922), which escorted battleships standing by to support the carrier fleet at Pearl Harbor and Midway, about to depart on her first repatriation mission.  She made 9 trips and carried 40,000 passengers:


Hosho's hangar modified with additional decks to increase berths 1945:


The hangar looks awful small, doesn't it?  Hosho was tiny by WWII carrier standards:


IJN cruiser Yakumo and aircraft carrier Katsuragi repatriate Japanese troops.  Yakumo was launched in 1899 and fought in the Russo-Japanese war at the Battle of the Yellow Sea (1904) and Tsushima (1905), and served as an armed training ship during WWII.  Katsuragi was a potentially powerful Unryo class launched in early 1945, but her intended flight group was wiped out at Iwo Jima and never replaced, so she spent the last months of the war disguised as an island.  Both were scrapped in 1946.
Carrier Katsuragi and cruiser Yakumo transport troops back to Japan


"On the evening of 30 January 1946, a Japanese 22,000 ton aircraft carrier Katsuragi carrying 5,000 Japanese troops from Fauro to Japan, called at Rabaul for fuel and water. Most of the troops were in very bad health and conditions on the carrier very crowded."  The deck is still buckled from a 2,000lb bomb hit to the hangar during the war, when US bombers saw through the island disguise:
Japanese aircraft carrier Katsuragi at Rabaul

Katsuragi's buckled deck:
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IJN destroyer Yoizuki was commissioned too late to see action.  Her unfired guns were stripped and she went on a controversially overcrowded repatriation mission to Australia to pick up Japanese and Taiwanese internees (Taiwan was ruled by Japan from 1895-1945).  Australia interned about a thousand Japanese living there at the outbreak of war (mostly pearl divers) and acquired another 3,000 Japanese and Taiwanese civilians arrested in other Allied controlled territories.

Arriving Sydney:


Forced aboard by MP's:


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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 6:12:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer:
German Officers served in Nationalist China to build their army & Air forces,

K-98 8mm Mauser
C-96 Mauser
Stahlhelms
He-111s

until the Germans & Japanese became buddies...
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Hans von Seeckt, creator of the 100,000 man Reichswehr was the primary advisor to the KMT.  He and other advisors urged Hitler to make an alliance with the Japanese.  It's all history now.
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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 7:47:47 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 8:01:54 PM EDT
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Looking back at 90 pages of pictures, I have made some observations.

Yes its nice to admire the hardware, courage, dramatic moments and even the occasional light hearted moments caught on camera.  But there is no denying that all the people seen in those photos, no matter who they were, deep down were living in a daily fear of death or dismemberment, while living under what we would consider difficult and arduous conditions.  

Just in passing the only fatty I ever saw in any of those photos was Goering, and I would politely include Churchill who had been well fed far for years.  That should give you a hint about the privation, meaning short rations, not to mention intended starvation  and work designed for murder in those years.

When the greatest generation is mention, I have become a believer.  I honestly ask, if the people of today were asked to perform the same, would most of us be capable?
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 8:03:56 PM EDT
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10 days from keel to floating. I do not think we could do it right now.
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Henry J. Kaiser's shipbuilders begin the 10-day construction of the Joseph N. Teal ship in September 1942 in Portland, Ore.
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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 8:11:32 PM EDT
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It would not.  Ship construction today is composed of welded segments.  Actually similar to what your seeing in the photos.  However, today the same techniques are far more sophisticated, but are done more slowly over time with a fraction of the people, and delayed deliveries from off site deliveries and overseas suppliers.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 8:24:55 PM EDT
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It would not.  Ship construction today is composed of welded segments.  Actually similar to what your seeing in the photos.  However, today the same techniques are far more sophisticated, but are done more slowly over time with a fraction of the people, and delayed deliveries from off site deliveries and overseas suppliers.
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I appreciate your post. This past week I lost the last tie to WW2 in my family. It made me sad, but time comes for all of us to go.
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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 8:44:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax:


I appreciate your post. This past week I lost the last tie to WW2 in my family. It made me sad, but time comes for all of us to go.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/wwii-normandy-american_jpg-1435305.JPG
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Sorry for your loss.
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 11:21:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2020 11:51:07 AM EDT
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Close, but not a penguin.

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Pretty sure the quote on that one was that it was a penguin.
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 11:59:12 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2020 1:16:37 PM EDT
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B-24 Liberator #41-24023 'Fertile Myrtle' 415th BS, 98th BG, 9th AF, flew on 1st Aug 43 Ploesti raid, piloted by Herbert I Shingler, returning safely to Libya.
19th Aug 43. En route to the target, the plane began smoking from the engines, after which it went into a dive and crashed into the ground and exploded. Pilot Ralph F. Wiesenberg. Italy. 10 KIA. MACR 325.
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2nd/Lt Joseph M. Gares Nav, 2nd/Lt James R. Curtis Bombardier, 2nd/Lt James H. Devers, Jr Co Pilot 2nd/Lt Ralph F. Wiesenberg Pilot, T/Sgt Orville K. Nicholson, T/Sgt Cedric J. Rougier, S/Sgt Harry L. Fischer Gunner, S/Sgt Marcel G. Parker Gunner, S/Sgt John A. Summers Gunner, S/Sgt Patrick L. Burke Gunner.
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Link Posted: 5/28/2020 2:38:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax:


I appreciate your post. This past week I lost the last tie to WW2 in my family. It made me sad, but time comes for all of us to go.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/wwii-normandy-american_jpg-1435305.JPG
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Link Posted: 5/28/2020 5:59:34 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2020 7:17:16 PM EDT
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A step grandad of mine was a Marine combat photographer in WWII and I inherited all the photos he took in the Pacific. I’ve been wanting to post them but it’s a pile of them. Any ideas on maybe the best way to share besides making a shit load of pics and posts? I have to find the main collection still but I’ll upload a few as soon as I can, only way I know is to take a pic with my iPhone and post that. Scanning them in would take a long time but the photos are awesome.
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 7:20:11 PM EDT
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Now that is a hell of a flak tower
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 8:47:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mhode:
A step grandad of mine was a Marine combat photographer in WWII and I inherited all the photos he took in the Pacific. I’ve been wanting to post them but it’s a pile of them. Any ideas on maybe the best way to share besides making a shit load of pics and posts? I have to find the main collection still but I’ll upload a few as soon as I can, only way I know is to take a pic with my iPhone and post that. Scanning them in would take a long time but the photos are awesome.
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Oh my.

Take a pic with your iphone, post it, and we will give advice. How many pics you figure?

Can't wait!



Link Posted: 5/28/2020 10:50:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax:


What year is the bottom picture?
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Had to be the late '30s to very early '40s.
Link Posted: 5/29/2020 2:27:05 PM EDT
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Now that is a hell of a flak tower
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Now that is a hell of a flak tower

FlakTurm IV St. Pauli in Hamburg. It's apartments and shops now.

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HITLERS TERRIBLE TOWER - Giant World War 2 Anti Aircraft Flak Tower


Weird to see them in modern context.
Link Posted: 5/29/2020 5:54:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wtfboombrb:


Oh my.

Take a pic with your iphone, post it, and we will give advice. How many pics you figure?

Can't wait!



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Let me grab some in a few and I’ll post.
Link Posted: 5/29/2020 6:18:08 PM EDT
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Small sample I have hundreds more.
Tinian
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Link Posted: 5/29/2020 6:18:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mhode:
A step grandad of mine was a Marine combat photographer in WWII and I inherited all the photos he took in the Pacific. I’ve been wanting to post them but it’s a pile of them. Any ideas on maybe the best way to share besides making a shit load of pics and posts? I have to find the main collection still but I’ll upload a few as soon as I can, only way I know is to take a pic with my iPhone and post that. Scanning them in would take a long time but the photos are awesome.
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Let them scan by a professional photo scanning service.  



Link Posted: 5/29/2020 6:24:29 PM EDT
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Sorry for the earlier sideways pics that shit is getting old.

Iwo
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Link Posted: 5/29/2020 6:32:07 PM EDT
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**WARNING**

Maybe NSFW dead Japanese and a few Marines


Saipan
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Link Posted: 5/29/2020 6:33:19 PM EDT
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I have to find the rest of the collection.
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I've seen many of those in various books and magazines over the years, a lot of Time-Life stuff.
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75 years ago the first combat evaluation missions were flown in the Philippines by the B-32.  It was a backup design to the B-29. A total of 118 were built and all were destroyed or scrapped after the war.

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Originally Posted By Gopher:
75 years ago the first combat evaluation missions were flown in the Philippines by the B-32.  It was a backup design to the B-29. A total of 118 were built and all were destroyed or scrapped after the war.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/b-32_natural_finish_jpg-1438038.JPG
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XB-38, Allison powered Flying Fortress developed in case Wright radial production fell behind.  First flight May 1943. Top speed was higher but ceiling was lower.  The only prototype was destroyed by in flight fire June 1943, crew bailed out.  Radial production remained adequate and the Allisons were needed elsewhere, so the project was dropped.





Link Posted: 5/29/2020 8:57:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
75 years ago the first combat evaluation missions were flown in the Philippines by the B-32.  It was a backup design to the B-29. A total of 118 were built and all were destroyed or scrapped after the war.

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It's a pretty interesting plane. We really could build things in the 40's.
Link Posted: 5/29/2020 9:15:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
XB-38, Allison powered Flying Fortress developed in case Wright radial production fell behind.  First flight May 1943. Top speed was higher but ceiling was lower.  The only prototype was destroyed by in flight fire June 1943, crew bailed out.  Radial production remained adequate and the Allisons were needed elsewhere, so the project was dropped.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/XB-38.jpg/1200px-XB-38.jpg
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https://www.worldwarphotos.info/wp-content/gallery/usa/aircrafts/xb-38/XB-38_front.jpg
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That is really awesome!  Has a similar elegant nacelle look as the Lancs did.  Really interesting how many contingency plans we put into place during the war.  Were the engines also turbo supercharged?
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I've posted some of those in this thread.

I think you should try to scan a small batch to test. You won't have to deal with lighting issues such as glare, and they'll lay flat.
Link Posted: 5/29/2020 10:00:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
XB-38, Allison powered Flying Fortress developed in case Wright radial production fell behind.  First flight May 1943. Top speed was higher but ceiling was lower.  The only prototype was destroyed by in flight fire June 1943, crew bailed out.  Radial production remained adequate and the Allisons were needed elsewhere, so the project was dropped.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/XB-38.jpg/1200px-XB-38.jpg
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/wj3pugpwtck1fnjbmjn9.jpg
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_1600/uzwslq5rpt64xkx36qzp.jpg
https://www.worldwarphotos.info/wp-content/gallery/usa/aircrafts/xb-38/XB-38_front.jpg
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The XB-39, essentially powered by 8 allisons, (two engines  were coupled to drive a single propeller a la the HE-177.
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