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Posted: 6/8/2020 9:51:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 22caliberKIDD: Tanks doing tank stuff  https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/A1678736-5A6C-44B0-A0D9-6702B4791148_jpe-1452924.JPG I just know somebody drew a dick at one time. |
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Posted: 6/8/2020 9:58:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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The US did just about everything you could imagine to train gunners for bombers. Shooting clays with shotguns you probably know about. Here's some more.
Instructional cartoon:  Hitting a Moving Target for World War 2 Bomber Gunners (1944 - Restored) Ground and midair firing at towed windsock:  Turret Gunner Training WW2 Jam Handy trainer. Projectors showed an attacking fighter and the correct aim point, simulator gun projects a light beam when trigger depressed:  Waller simulator. Four gunners at a time fire at projected fighters on the interior of a half dome. A light sensor detects hits and triggers a buzzer, the machine would record the number of shots fired and the number of hits from each gunner:  In the Waller's guts were 9 projectors, 5 to project film of fighters and 4 that registered hits:  Of course nothing beats shooting real fighters with real bullets, so they did that too. When Bell developed a dedicated ground attack follow on to their P-39 Airacobra, the P-63 Kingcobra, the USAAF passed on it but the Soviets, primary user of the P-39, were enthusiastic and ordered them in large numbers. A veteran Soviet combat pilot and an engineer came to Bell and the production aircraft was tweaked to meet Soviet needs, including more armor. At the same time the USAAF decided to develop a gunnery training program called Operation Pinball involving shooting at a real fighter, and they ordered some P-63's to be stripped of guns, modified with an additional ton of armor, and equipped with lights in the nose and wings attached to sensors that detected bullet impacts. Gunners would fire frangible ammunition with bullets made from a combination of soft powdered lead and bakelite plastic at the fighters as they made mock firing passes on bombers, hits triggered the lights. A handful of fighters were shot down by lucky radiator penetrations, but the training was done over flat desert so most damaged aircraft were landed without incident. 300 RP-63 armored target planes were built:  T-44 (later redesignated M22) frangible .30:    Operation Pinball |
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Posted: 6/9/2020 1:59:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/9/2020 5:38:45 AM EDT
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Thanks. I wasn't aware of Pinball and frangible bullets in WW2.
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Posted: 6/9/2020 10:29:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: hdhogman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: The US did just about everything you could imagine to train gunners for bombers. Shooting clays with shotguns you probably know about. Here's some more. Instructional cartoon:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWYqu1Il9PsGround and midair firing at towed windsock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gle-v4y4EkUJam Handy trainer. Projectors showed an attacking fighter and the correct aim point, simulator gun projects a light beam when trigger depressed: https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/bAUiVWjk_oXCKbrTC28QQ8pWYQI=/fit-in/1072x0/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/fe/81/fe811e95-b691-4cdc-a7ae-38af7b72262d/05e_dj2015_jamhandy_live-cr.jpg Waller simulator. Four gunners at a time fire at projected fighters on the interior of a half dome. A light sensor detects hits and triggers a buzzer, the machine would record the number of shots fired and the number of hits from each gunner: https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/6A__liiqdshbQl80TeVGwEcQVjY=/fit-in/1072x0/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/81/81/818162ab-4b97-4c1c-ab4d-42c2cd4b0306/05f_dj2015_wallera_live.jpg In the Waller's guts were 9 projectors, 5 to project film of fighters and 4 that registered hits: https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/3iSrl0ezdxt5OtCJUkfGkIqvdOI=/fit-in/1072x0/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/38/41/38415031-7aa5-4cbf-8f3e-ea84c24937b6/05k_dj2015_wallerfromtherear_live-cr.jpg Of course nothing beats shooting real fighters with real bullets, so they did that too. When Bell developed a dedicated ground attack follow on to their P-39 Airacobra, the P-63 Kingcobra, the USAAF passed on it but the Soviets, primary user of the P-39, were enthusiastic and ordered them in large numbers. A veteran Soviet combat pilot and an engineer came to Bell and the production aircraft was tweaked to meet Soviet needs, including more armor. At the same time the USAAF decided to develop a gunnery training program called Operation Pinball involving shooting at a real fighter, and they ordered some P-63's to be stripped of guns, modified with an additional ton of armor, and equipped with lights in the nose and wings attached to sensors that detected bullet impacts. Gunners would fire frangible ammunition with bullets made from a combination of soft powdered lead and bakelite plastic at the fighters as they made mock firing passes on bombers, hits triggered the lights. A handful of fighters were shot down by lucky radiator penetrations, but the training was done over flat desert so most damaged aircraft were landed without incident. 300 RP-63 armored target planes were built: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8DAL7gPYBiM/TJgTemMlH3I/AAAAAAAAAjA/CfVxvQtY380/s1600/Pinball1.jpg T-44 (later redesignated M22) frangible .30: https://picturearchive.gunauction.com/1221222728/4157211/.30%20M22%20Frangible%20Ball%20Lake%20City.jpg https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-24355-0-61757200-1383000235.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLztnxxHC18The final video, I'd forgotten about the 'Beard Of Knowledge' from the 'Pawn Stars' TV Show'. Like others have replied, never knew about the frangible ammo training program, Thanks. |
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Posted: 6/9/2020 6:12:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mp41: I like them too. When they can be found that is.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/227797/16665001-1870593833210322-54519552717989-1453478.JPG I didn't realize the panther and tiger I were so close in size. I've always liked the look of the panthers. If I hadn't become a squid, I'd have probably signed up to be a tanker. I've always been fascinated by them. I built tons of tank models as a kid. Tiger II / Sherman comparison?  Panther / Sherman models  T34/85 / Tiger  T34 / Sherman 
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Posted: 6/10/2020 5:59:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/10/2020 4:39:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Colt_sporter: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/4344DFB2-3772-4AA3-B06A-75363EEBE2DC_jpe-1455295.JPG That's wicked. Me 410 from the 6. Staffel of ZG 26 ready for a mission in October 1943.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 4:48:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: That's wicked. Me 410 from the 6. Staffel of ZG 26 ready for a mission in October 1943. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/me-410-6-ZG-26-10-1943-vorden-web_jpg-1456020.JPG I always thought the Me 410 was an interesting airplane |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 6:16:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 13starsinax]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: I always thought the Me 410 was an interesting airplane I did not realize how few of them there were, and basically every Me-210 was gutted and put into the 410's. The Me-210 ruined Willy Messerschmitt.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 9:08:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/10/2020 9:13:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: I did not realize how few of them there were, and basically every Me-210 was gutted and put into the 410's. The Me-210 ruined Willy Messerschmitt. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/_jpg-1456146.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/37eaa27686ad0da5bea8bdd2f4a0f387_jpg-1456158.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/24d3f8acdd7c7a4a3f545a1dbe0b1c38_jpg-1456161.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By Dog1: I always thought the Me 410 was an interesting airplane I did not realize how few of them there were, and basically every Me-210 was gutted and put into the 410's. The Me-210 ruined Willy Messerschmitt. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/_jpg-1456146.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/37eaa27686ad0da5bea8bdd2f4a0f387_jpg-1456158.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/24d3f8acdd7c7a4a3f545a1dbe0b1c38_jpg-1456161.JPG The HS-129 B3 was more effective, but the cannon was almost too heavy for the aircraft |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 9:36:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 13starsinax]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: The HS-129 B3 was more effective, but the cannon was almost too heavy for the aircraft That is another interesting plane, but it too was late to the game. Really amazing how far air warfare changed in WW2.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 11:05:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/10/2020 11:30:37 PM EDT
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Appears to be a Red Army Sherman
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Posted: 6/11/2020 9:32:59 AM EDT
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Captain Alexander Marinesko of Soviet submarine S-13. Marinesko was ejected from the Communist Party for alcoholism, nearly court martialed for desertion after disappearing for a few days with a Finnish woman, caught lying about his kill claims, and was looking forward to a court martial for alcoholism when he got back from patrol:
S-13:  The Kriegsmarine evacuated 2 million Germans from Courland and East Prussia in Operation Hannibal after the Soviets cut off the region. Marinesko sunk the liner Wilhelm Gustloff on 30 January 1945 killing an estimated 9,400 people, the greatest single maritime disaster in history. She was armed, not marked as a hospital ship, and some of the passengers were healthy soldiers being redeployed, so she was fair game.  10 February 1945 Marinesko sank SS General von Steuben, also an armed transport carrying a mix of soldiers and refugees. About 4,000 killed:  Although the most successful Soviet submarine commander of the war, even for Russia Marinesko was too drunk and surly to be a Hero of the Soviet Union and was awarded the lesser Order of the Red Banner instead. Insulted, Marinesko ordered S-13 to dive when staff officers tried to board her for the presentation. On his next patrol he stayed perma-drunk and S-13 failed to engage the enemy. Marinesko was downgraded in rank to lieutenant and dishonorably discharged in October 1945. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 9:40:45 AM EDT
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Yikes! He must have been A Super Alky to have been court martialed, considering how the Russians are known for their vodka consumption.
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Posted: 6/11/2020 9:53:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Captain Alexander Marinesko of Soviet submarine S-13. Marinesko was ejected from the Communist Party for alcoholism, nearly court martialed for desertion after disappearing for a few days with a Finnish woman, caught lying about his kill claims, and was looking forward to a court martial for alcoholism when he got back from patrol: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1bd9ed9986740b633dc5e5a3388bacd1 S-13: https://uboat.net/media/allies/warships/sj/ss_ussr_s-13.jpg The Kriegsmarine evacuated 2 million Germans from Courland and East Prussia in Operation Hannibal after the Soviets cut off the region. Marinesko sunk the liner Wilhelm Gustloff on 30 January 1945 killing an estimated 9,400 people, the greatest single maritime disaster in history. She was armed, not marked as a hospital ship, and some of the passengers were healthy soldiers being redeployed, so she was fair game. https://unbelievable-facts.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Wilhelm-Gustloff.jpg 10 February 1945 Marinesko sank SS General von Steuben, also an armed transport carrying a mix of soldiers and refugees. About 4,000 killed: https://vikinglifeblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/8bc9b-stabswachedeeuros.jpg?w=640&h=360 Although the most successful Soviet submarine commander of the war, even for Russia Marinesko was too drunk and surly to be a Hero of the Soviet Union and was awarded the lesser Order of the Red Banner instead. Insulted, Marinesko ordered S-13 to dive when staff officers tried to board her for the presentation. On his next patrol he stayed perma-drunk and S-13 failed to engage the enemy. Marinesko was downgraded in rank to lieutenant and dishonorably discharged in October 1945. Wow. Too drunk for even Russian standards |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 3:46:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Wow. Too drunk for even Russian standards Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Captain Alexander Marinesko of Soviet submarine S-13. Marinesko was ejected from the Communist Party for alcoholism, nearly court martialed for desertion after disappearing for a few days with a Finnish woman, caught lying about his kill claims, and was looking forward to a court martial for alcoholism when he got back from patrol: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1bd9ed9986740b633dc5e5a3388bacd1 S-13: https://uboat.net/media/allies/warships/sj/ss_ussr_s-13.jpg The Kriegsmarine evacuated 2 million Germans from Courland and East Prussia in Operation Hannibal after the Soviets cut off the region. Marinesko sunk the liner Wilhelm Gustloff on 30 January 1945 killing an estimated 9,400 people, the greatest single maritime disaster in history. She was armed, not marked as a hospital ship, and some of the passengers were healthy soldiers being redeployed, so she was fair game. https://unbelievable-facts.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Wilhelm-Gustloff.jpg 10 February 1945 Marinesko sank SS General von Steuben, also an armed transport carrying a mix of soldiers and refugees. About 4,000 killed: https://vikinglifeblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/8bc9b-stabswachedeeuros.jpg?w=640&h=360 Although the most successful Soviet submarine commander of the war, even for Russia Marinesko was too drunk and surly to be a Hero of the Soviet Union and was awarded the lesser Order of the Red Banner instead. Insulted, Marinesko ordered S-13 to dive when staff officers tried to board her for the presentation. On his next patrol he stayed perma-drunk and S-13 failed to engage the enemy. Marinesko was downgraded in rank to lieutenant and dishonorably discharged in October 1945. Wow. Too drunk for even Russian standards Too drunk to be a sailor as well as too drunk for a Russian. That is impressive. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 4:04:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hdhogman: Yikes! He must have been A Super Alky to have been court martialed, considering how the Russians are known for their vodka consumption. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hdhogman: Yikes! He must have been A Super Alky to have been court martialed, considering how the Russians are known for their vodka consumption. No kidding. Messerschmitt Me 210 A-1 of Zerstörergeschwader 1 after a landing accident in Gerbini, Sicily - March 1943  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 5:00:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By birdbarian: Too drunk to be a sailor as well as too drunk for a Russian. That is impressive. I never thought that could be a thing |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 5:10:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: I never thought that could be a thing Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By birdbarian: Too drunk to be a sailor as well as too drunk for a Russian. That is impressive. I never thought that could be a thing It can be but please remember that unlike Congress drunken sailors stop spending money when they run out of it. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 5:38:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By piccolo: It can be but please remember that unlike Congress drunken sailors stop spending money when they run out of it. 
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Posted: 6/11/2020 5:40:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dog1]
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@13starsinax
Did you happen to hear last night from a far away land, a angry man cussing? If you did that was me trying to put the painting masks on my 1/72nd BF 110 model. 
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Posted: 6/11/2020 5:57:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: @13starsinax Did you happen to hear last night from a far away land, a angry man cussing? If you did that was me trying to put the painting masks on my 1/72nd BF 110 model. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/20200611_174116-1457506.jpg Ha, man those 1/72 are very difficult. I get cross eyed. 1/48 is small as I like to go, but some versions you just gotta get what you can. I think it is going to look really nice with those decals you got. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 6:01:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Ha, man those 1/72 are very difficult. I get cross eyed. 1/48 is small as I like to go, but some versions you just gotta get what you can. I think it is going to look really nice with those decals you got. Hindsight being 20-20 I should have went 1:48 scale. I hope it looks good. I got to get my paint job right though and you know how those Luftwaffe paint schemes can be |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 6:06:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Hindsight being 20-20 I should have went 1:48 scale. I hope it looks good. I got to get my paint job right though and you know how those Luftwaffe paint schemes can be I got faith in you, and the RLM color wars are a real struggle. Fortunately your working on a well known paint scheme. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 6:09:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dog1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: I got faith in you, and the RLM color wars are a real struggle. Fortunately your working on a well known paint scheme. I got on my paint and I know how I'm going to paint it it's just being able to paint it with my left hand and not right handed which I spent 30 years training how to use an airbrush LOL it's going to end up looking like somebody with cerebral palsy tried to airbrush it |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 6:14:38 PM EDT
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Check out this one
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Posted: 6/11/2020 10:03:33 PM EDT
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Just finished watching Glen Miller story on TCM and found this
Glenn Miller - Music Video - The Army Air Corps  Glenn Miller - Music Video - The Army Air Corps |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 10:11:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Ha, man those 1/72 are very difficult. I get cross eyed. 1/48 is small as I like to go, but some versions you just gotta get what you can. I think it is going to look really nice with those decals you got. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By Dog1: @13starsinax Did you happen to hear last night from a far away land, a angry man cussing? If you did that was me trying to put the painting masks on my 1/72nd BF 110 model. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/20200611_174116-1457506.jpg Ha, man those 1/72 are very difficult. I get cross eyed. 1/48 is small as I like to go, but some versions you just gotta get what you can. I think it is going to look really nice with those decals you got. Pulled box out today I forgot about while organizing a truckload of gun stuff to a consign to a local auction house. The box is full of "older" 1/72 scale airplane models. (20-30) They came to me at another auction. Wanted the 1/6 scale Kettenkrad that was part of the lot. Models have been removed from their boxes and put in plastic bags, but appear complete with instructions. I want to be careful and not cross any lines. If you are a model builder and have posted in THIS thread, I will send you a few for the cost of postage. Just send me a PM. Five models to each person seem fair? Just be aware, all day tomorrow, (Sat) I will be away from my computer, so first in line gets their choice. If I did cross any lines, let me know and I will delete this post. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 10:19:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: @13starsinax Did you happen to hear last night from a far away land, a angry man cussing? If you did that was me trying to put the painting masks on my 1/72nd BF 110 model. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/20200611_174116-1457506.jpg If you really want to curse, paint those canopies by hand 
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Posted: 6/11/2020 10:20:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Pulled box out today I forgot about while organizing a truckload of gun stuff to a consign to a local auction house. The box is full of "older" 1/72 scale airplane models. (20-30) They came to me at another auction. Wanted the 1/6 scale Kettenkrad that was part of the lot. Models have been removed from their boxes and put in plastic bags, but appear complete with instructions. I want to be careful and not cross any lines. If you are a model builder and have posted in THIS thread, I will send you a few for the cost of postage. Just send me a PM. Five models to each person seem fair? Just be aware, all day tomorrow, (Sat) I will be away from my computer, so first in line gets their choice. If I did cross any lines, let me know and I will delete this post. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Originally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By Dog1: @13starsinax Did you happen to hear last night from a far away land, a angry man cussing? If you did that was me trying to put the painting masks on my 1/72nd BF 110 model. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/20200611_174116-1457506.jpg Ha, man those 1/72 are very difficult. I get cross eyed. 1/48 is small as I like to go, but some versions you just gotta get what you can. I think it is going to look really nice with those decals you got. Pulled box out today I forgot about while organizing a truckload of gun stuff to a consign to a local auction house. The box is full of "older" 1/72 scale airplane models. (20-30) They came to me at another auction. Wanted the 1/6 scale Kettenkrad that was part of the lot. Models have been removed from their boxes and put in plastic bags, but appear complete with instructions. I want to be careful and not cross any lines. If you are a model builder and have posted in THIS thread, I will send you a few for the cost of postage. Just send me a PM. Five models to each person seem fair? Just be aware, all day tomorrow, (Sat) I will be away from my computer, so first in line gets their choice. If I did cross any lines, let me know and I will delete this post. What do you have? IM sent |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 10:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By birdbarian: I didn't realize the panther and tiger I were so close in size. I've always liked the look of the panthers. If I hadn't become a squid, I'd have probably signed up to be a tanker. I've always been fascinated by them. I built tons of tank models as a kid. Tiger II / Sherman comparison? https://content.invisioncic.com/r254563/monthly_2015_12/tigervssherman.thumb.jpg.d399f8f5e2e430bdfefffb1d60833a94.jpg Panther / Sherman models https://deanoworldtravels.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/img_1059-1024x768.jpg T34/85 / Tiger https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/dc/64/95dc64445207d8670a36832253a040a9.jpg T34 / Sherman https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cUTT98A0jQ4/V-CHYv5fVLI/AAAAAAAB3RI/XQ85Q-4bECIjXvwGJVUrqON0-aE_TZftwCLcB/s1600/Sherman_tank_worldwartwo.filminspector.com_6.jpg Thanks for the comparison pictures. I didn't realize that the Sherman appears so large in comparison to the Tiger II! And now for something completely different!  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 10:30:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MrHold]
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Go to 8:50 for the mustang take offs on grass one has accident on take off
  VE Day Announcement, Ansbach, Germany | 220908-06 | Footage Farm Ltd Accident takes place at 11:00 min 
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Posted: 6/11/2020 10:33:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Check out this one https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/bf-110-totenkopf-2rrilb-1457548.jpg Love the look of those Messerschmidt's. 109 instruments + panel (Sadly not mine)  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 10:53:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: If you really want to curse, paint those canopies by hand I've experience that pain as well |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 11:18:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Pulled box out today I forgot about while organizing a truckload of gun stuff to a consign to a local auction house. The box is full of "older" 1/72 scale airplane models. (20-30) They came to me at another auction. Wanted the 1/6 scale Kettenkrad that was part of the lot. Models have been removed from their boxes and put in plastic bags, but appear complete with instructions. I want to be careful and not cross any lines. If you are a model builder and have posted in THIS thread, I will send you a few for the cost of postage. Just send me a PM. Five models to each person seem fair? Just be aware, all day tomorrow, (Sat) I will be away from my computer, so first in line gets their choice. If I did cross any lines, let me know and I will delete this post. IM sent |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 11:29:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mp41: Love the look of those Messerschmidt's. 109 instruments + panel (Sadly not mine) https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/227797/109-1_jpg-1457954.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mp41: Love the look of those Messerschmidt's. 109 instruments + panel (Sadly not mine) https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/227797/109-1_jpg-1457954.JPG It is crazy how much those gauges go for. An American officer is photographed in the cockpit of a German Focke-Wulf Fw.190 A-8 fighter  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 11:35:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Captain Alexander Marinesko of Soviet submarine S-13. Marinesko was ejected from the Communist Party for alcoholism, nearly court martialed for desertion after disappearing for a few days with a Finnish woman, caught lying about his kill claims, and was looking forward to a court martial for alcoholism when he got back from patrol: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1bd9ed9986740b633dc5e5a3388bacd1 S-13: https://uboat.net/media/allies/warships/sj/ss_ussr_s-13.jpg The Kriegsmarine evacuated 2 million Germans from Courland and East Prussia in Operation Hannibal after the Soviets cut off the region. Marinesko sunk the liner Wilhelm Gustloff on 30 January 1945 killing an estimated 9,400 people, the greatest single maritime disaster in history. She was armed, not marked as a hospital ship, and some of the passengers were healthy soldiers being redeployed, so she was fair game. https://unbelievable-facts.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Wilhelm-Gustloff.jpg 10 February 1945 Marinesko sank SS General von Steuben, also an armed transport carrying a mix of soldiers and refugees. About 4,000 killed: https://vikinglifeblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/8bc9b-stabswachedeeuros.jpg?w=640&h=360 Although the most successful Soviet submarine commander of the war, even for Russia Marinesko was too drunk and surly to be a Hero of the Soviet Union and was awarded the lesser Order of the Red Banner instead. Insulted, Marinesko ordered S-13 to dive when staff officers tried to board her for the presentation. On his next patrol he stayed perma-drunk and S-13 failed to engage the enemy. Marinesko was downgraded in rank to lieutenant and dishonorably discharged in October 1945. "Crazy Ivan"... Now you know the back story... |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 8:53:50 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Pulled box out today I forgot about while organizing a truckload of gun stuff to a consign to a local auction house. The box is full of "older" 1/72 scale airplane models. (20-30) They came to me at another auction. Wanted the 1/6 scale Kettenkrad that was part of the lot. Models have been removed from their boxes and put in plastic bags, but appear complete with instructions. I want to be careful and not cross any lines. If you are a model builder and have posted in THIS thread, I will send you a few for the cost of postage. Just send me a PM. Five models to each person seem fair? Just be aware, all day tomorrow, (Sat) I will be away from my computer, so first in line gets their choice. If I did cross any lines, let me know and I will delete this post. That's rather decent of you. |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 1:03:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrHold: Go to 8:50 for the mustang take offs on grass one has accident on take off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJuQyADAKaQAccident takes place at 11:00 min Seemed like the field was both wet and bumpy and a few guys got off the ground a little too early. That guy at 11 minutes unfortunately stalled the left wing right away. Lucky he settled down on the gear and didn't cartwheel. |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 1:18:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mp41: Love the look of those Messerschmidt's. 109 instruments + panel (Sadly not mine) https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/227797/109-1_jpg-1457954.JPG Wow that is pretty cool. I can't even imagine how much that would cost |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 2:55:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: 😲 Now I'm going to have to build a BF 110 and try to print out some decals. @13starsinax What variant are those Bf-110s? @Dog1 You don’t need to go to such measures. Decals are available https://www.ebay.com/c/664558104 Also in 1/72 and 1/48 it looks like. By Peddinghaus. I knew they made WWII armor decals |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 3:01:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: @Dog1 You don’t need to go to such measures. Decals are available https://www.ebay.com/c/664558104 Also in 1/72 and 1/48 it looks like. By Peddinghaus. I knew they made WWII armor decals Dammit pay attention! We've already got the decals  Thanks for looking out though! I appreciate it |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 4:32:16 PM EDT
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Enjoy this Blast from the Past.
 The Rear Gunner (1943) Ronald Reagan & Burgiss Meredith battling the Japanese in the Desert ... |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 4:49:31 PM EDT
[#47]
 Flak (1944) |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 4:53:04 PM EDT
[#48]
 Luftwaffe in Action - He-111 Level Bombing Mission - Russia - 1943 He-111 in Russia |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 4:58:26 PM EDT
[#49]
Gun camera footage, all labeled in sections of video
 LUFTWAFFE FIGHTER GUN CAMERA FOOTAGE - Documents Attacks on Allied Fighters and Bombers (Part 3) |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 5:33:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jblomenberg16: Seemed like the field was both wet and bumpy and a few guys got off the ground a little too early. That guy at 11 minutes unfortunately stalled the left wing right away. Lucky he settled down on the gear and didn't cartwheel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jblomenberg16: Originally Posted By MrHold: Go to 8:50 for the mustang take offs on grass one has accident on take off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJuQyADAKaQAccident takes place at 11:00 min Seemed like the field was both wet and bumpy and a few guys got off the ground a little too early. That guy at 11 minutes unfortunately stalled the left wing right away. Lucky he settled down on the gear and didn't cartwheel. Looks like he torque-rolled. not enough opposite rudder? (I'm just a crew Chief) |
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