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Posted: 6/17/2020 7:40:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By windyhill: https://i.ibb.co/NNJ10G2/du0ocef52aj31.jpg Nice, what plane is that? |
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Posted: 6/17/2020 7:46:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By windyhill: https://i.ibb.co/NNJ10G2/du0ocef52aj31.jpg Surrendering? Looks like a Catalina overhead. |
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Posted: 6/17/2020 7:47:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/17/2020 7:54:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 13starsinax]
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Irma Grese Defendant number 9, Irma Grese, dubbed the Beast of Belsen was convicted for crimes against humanity at the Belsen Trial and sentenced to death. She had been employed at various Nazi concentration camps including Auschwitz and Belsen. At her trial survivors provided detailed testimony of murders, tortures, and other brutal behaviour towards prisoners, especially women. She was 22 years old when she was executed  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/17/2020 8:40:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Nice, what plane is that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By windyhill: https://i.ibb.co/NNJ10G2/du0ocef52aj31.jpg Nice, what plane is that? Looks like a Catalina, but may be a Dornier. Having a hard time finding a good pic of the plane I am thinking of. |
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Posted: 6/17/2020 8:47:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ACDer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Looks like a Catalina, but may be a Dornier. Having a hard time finding a good pic of the plane I am thinking of. Thats U-889 surrendering to the Royal Canadian Navy, so likely a Catalina.  Naxzi U-boat Surrender in Shelburne, N,S May 1945 |
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Posted: 6/17/2020 8:51:07 PM EDT
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RCN gets in one last jab
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Posted: 6/17/2020 10:36:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/17/2020 11:09:51 PM EDT
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Private collection? Jealousy meter just blew through the top peg.
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Posted: 6/17/2020 11:49:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By armoredman: Private collection? Jealousy meter just blew through the top peg. Insane. If I had his $$, that is EXACTLY what I would do with it. Needs more P-38 Lightning tho (one of, if not my favorite) 
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Posted: 6/18/2020 8:23:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 22caliberKIDD: Insane. If I had his $$, that is EXACTLY what I would do with it. Needs more P-38 Lightning tho (one of, if not my favorite) https://66.media.tumblr.com/8b0b7e59fc4f8dbc48e3306c37c7f4c8/tumblr_nsxmrf0ZCE1r2jezqo1_500.gif Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 22caliberKIDD: Originally Posted By armoredman: Private collection? Jealousy meter just blew through the top peg. Insane. If I had his $$, that is EXACTLY what I would do with it. Needs more P-38 Lightning tho (one of, if not my favorite) https://66.media.tumblr.com/8b0b7e59fc4f8dbc48e3306c37c7f4c8/tumblr_nsxmrf0ZCE1r2jezqo1_500.gif He has a Lightning. Came with the Champlin Collection when he purchased the entire collection. |
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Posted: 6/18/2020 9:16:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: He has a Lightning. Came with the Champlin Collection when he purchased the entire collection. He also has stuff in storage that boggles the mind. One of their videos was something along the lines if your going to fly them you need 3 complete motors, and they panned over-sure as shit there they were. The Champlin collection had lots of stuff in crates. |
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Posted: 6/18/2020 9:39:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/18/2020 12:43:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/18/2020 1:03:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: He also has stuff in storage that boggles the mind. One of their videos was something along the lines if your going to fly them you need 3 complete motors, and they panned over-sure as shit there they were. The Champlin collection had lots of stuff in crates. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner: He has a Lightning. Came with the Champlin Collection when he purchased the entire collection. He also has stuff in storage that boggles the mind. One of their videos was something along the lines if your going to fly them you need 3 complete motors, and they panned over-sure as shit there they were. The Champlin collection had lots of stuff in crates. He sure did. Grew up in Arizona and visited the Collection many, many times. Part of me was sad to see it go to Seattle, though I understood why it happened. Have visited the collection a couple times since then in Seattle. That said, I really liked the displays in Mesa. Genuine hangers and work spaces. While the dioramas in Seattle probably help people who aren't history buffs understand the importance, the airplanes get lost in the setting. Could be fiberglass models, and some actually are(were?). |
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Posted: 6/18/2020 5:12:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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Prototype Curtiss-Wright CW-21 Demon; Built as a bomber interceptor for export. Lightly built, lightly armed, no armor, everything sacrificed for rate of climb. The Curtiss test pilot shot down a Japanese bomber with the prototype as a sales demonstration for the Chinese in 1939. They bought the prototype, 3 complete examples, and 27 kits. The completed examples were to be transferred to the AVG Flying Tigers but crashed in bad weather, and the factory where the kits were to be assembled was overrun.
 The Dutch bought two dozen for the East Indies, they claimed 4 kills before being wiped out by the Japanese.  Dutch CW-22 Falcon two seat recon/training/courier/light ground attack variant; two dozen reached Dutch forces before the war began.  Captured CW-21, CW-22, and B-17 on display in Japan:  This blog by an author specializing in the Dutch East Indies campaign claims that the Dutch had a mustard gas plant shipped to Java as a deterrent against Japanese chemical weapons, that they equipped some CW-22's with spraying gear and trained ground personnel in handling it, and that the planes were ordered to be armed and prepped for attack when the Japanese invaded, but the order was rescinded. The USN bought 305 Falcon trainers, designated SNC-1:   Attached File |
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Posted: 6/18/2020 5:18:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/18/2020 8:26:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gopher]
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F-15 Reporter an unarmed reconnaissance version of the P-61 Black Widow, first flown in July 1945.
It would later play a major role in the mapping of Korea during that conflict.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/19/2020 7:24:08 AM EDT
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Aunt Mary - a teenager stuck in Japan from 1939 until the end. In the USA, she was not ladylike enough to suit her folks. During the occupation of Japan, she worked for communications and the eigth army.
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Posted: 6/19/2020 9:11:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Prototype Curtiss-Wright CW-21 Demon; Built as a bomber interceptor for export. Lightly built, lightly armed, no armor, everything sacrificed for rate of climb. The Curtiss test pilot shot down a Japanese bomber with the prototype as a sales demonstration for the Chinese in 1939. They bought the prototype, 3 complete examples, and 27 kits. The completed examples were to be transferred to the AVG Flying Tigers but crashed in bad weather, and the factory where the kits were to be assembled was overrun. http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/fww2/cw21/cw21-2.jpg The Dutch bought two dozen for the East Indies, they claimed 4 kills before being wiped out by the Japanese. https://i.pinimg.com/564x/b3/1b/2d/b31b2d544c9853450619f80de978d7f8.jpg Dutch CW-22 Falcon two seat recon/training/courier/light ground attack variant; two dozen reached Dutch forces before the war began. https://thejavagoldblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/air_cw21_3.jpg?w=640 Captured CW-21, CW-22, and B-17 on display in Japan: https://thejavagoldblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/b17_cw21_22.jpg This blog by an author specializing in the Dutch East Indies campaign claims that the Dutch had a mustard gas plant shipped to Java as a deterrent against Japanese chemical weapons, that they equipped some CW-22's with spraying gear and trained ground personnel in handling it, and that the planes were ordered to be armed and prepped for attack when the Japanese invaded, but the order was rescinded. The USN bought 305 Falcon trainers, designated SNC-1: http://www.airgroup4.com/book/photos/c10p3s.jpg You learn something new everyday. I'll be damned I never heard of those curtiss-wright planes |
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Posted: 6/19/2020 9:19:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By another_shooter: Aunt Mary - a teenager stuck in Japan from 1939 until the end. In the USA, she was not ladylike enough to suit her folks. During the occupation of Japan, she worked for communications and the eigth army. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/920/MaryAlbum020_jpg-1467529.JPG More info on Aunt Mary. What did she do during the war? How did she find a job with the US Eighth Army? Did she repatriate afterward? Future farm workers of America: 
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Posted: 6/19/2020 2:45:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/19/2020 4:39:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: another_shooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50: More info on Aunt Mary. What did she do during the war? How did she find a job with the US Eighth Army? Did she repatriate afterward? Future farm workers of America: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y9gwwrRLtow/WIvO12ttZKI/AAAAAAAAIVI/kF2T7XHxsBkrHAGvUlg4Cv5TnCbcNXKMQCLcB/s1600/dakpows.jpg My Dad (TSgt4, military intel-translator, I think the Seventh Service Command) went looking for her in Osaka. He found her and she came back to the USA in 1946... and my Mom got her back into US culture by teaching her to drive. She beat Dad home, he returned in 1947. My Dad in Japan with his boss (note the sidearm).  Attached File Attached FileI don't know if Aunt Mary had a real position in the Army... but it seems the Army guys liked her, LOL.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/19/2020 4:58:43 PM EDT
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Aunt Mary - during the war she was pretty miserable, but the people she was with took good care of her. She was sent to Japan because she was such a cut-up in the USA. She took the Kamakura Maru, a passenger liner that ran between San Francisco, Honolulu and Yokohama. The ship was turned into a troop transport in 1941 0r 1942, and in 1943, was sunk by an American Sub, losing 2500 passengers, mainly soldiers.
 Attached FileNow, sing "...a three hour tour..."  Attached FileAunt Mary, 1940 (she'd been crying)  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/19/2020 5:56:53 PM EDT
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@another_shooter...Thanks for sharing the pics as well as an Amazing Story.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2020 6:54:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gopher: The F-82 flew for the first time on 6-15-1945. It was the last piston-engined fighter. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/P-82_jpg-1462782.JPG My uncle said they had at his AF base in Libya and had constant problems. Footnote:. He was there went they found the wreckage of Lady Be Good. |
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Posted: 6/19/2020 9:38:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Riter]
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Thanks anothershooter for the f/u on your Aunt Mary. I knew there was an interesting story behind it.
. BTW, I just got Richard Sakakida's A Spy In Their Midst about an American intelligence sergeant in the Philippines who stayed behind to be captured. He pretended to be a merchant marine and did minor things to the Japanese. He also spied on them and got information to the Americans via the Filipinos. Attu:   Banzai aftermath at Attu 
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Posted: 6/21/2020 8:36:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/21/2020 8:39:37 AM EDT
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 Attached File Attached File Attached FileThose last two are now apart of my slowly growing collection of photos. Special thanks to another member on here for helping me find them. 
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KS, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2020 8:44:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By armoredman: Private collection? Jealousy meter just blew through the top peg. He also has Space Ship One. |
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Posted: 6/21/2020 9:34:00 AM EDT
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On 26 April 1945 a Storch was one of the last planes to land on the improvised airstrip in the Tiergarten near the Brandenburg Gate during the Battle of Berlin and the death throes of the Third Reich. It was flown by the test pilot Hanna Reitsch, who flew her lover Field Marshall Robert Ritter von Greim from Munich to Berlin to answer a summons from Hitler. Once in Berlin von Greim was informed that he was to take over command of the Luftwaffe from Hermann Goering.  Attached FileAnother fact: A Storch was the victim of the last dog fight on the Western Front and another was fittingly downed by a direct Allied counterpart of the Storch - a Piper L-4 Grasshopper-from the L-4's crew directing their pistol fire at it. The involved Storch was the only aircraft known to have been downed by handgun fire in the entire war. http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/fi156.html |
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Posted: 6/21/2020 9:38:57 AM EDT
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It was so good that many other countries ended up flying the Storch in their air forces. A few captured examples were even used as an allied transport because they were simply excellent planes! Here's British Priminister Winston Churchill sitting in the rear of a Storch soon after D-Day in 1944.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/21/2020 11:51:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/22/2020 9:29:05 AM EDT
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McGrath crew, 388th BG. My dad is top row left, pilot is first row with shades. He said he was there exactly 6 months. I know from the bg's database they flew missions from early June to about the middle of Sept, 44.
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Posted: 6/22/2020 2:35:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tuco22]
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Posted: 6/22/2020 4:06:49 PM EDT
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NACA full scale windtunnel, Brewster Buffalo. See the guy standing in the funnel:
 The tunnel was in operation from 1931 to 2009, first aircraft tested was a biplane and the last was a stealth drone |
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Posted: 6/22/2020 4:17:12 PM EDT
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Mal_means_bad------AMAZING!
Sure got a Lot of use and data from that! Thanks! 
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Posted: 6/22/2020 4:54:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/editor_images-1542287731794-http---ww2li-1470509.JPG I’m on my iphone, so not a great view here,.....but that looks photoshopped  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/22/2020 5:43:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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Some of the aircraft of the Franco-Thai war of 1940-1941, and subsequent Japanese-Thai alliance against the Allies.
With metropolitan France defeated and the Vichy government prevented from sending reinforcements, French Indo-China was left hanging by a thread. In September 1940 the Japanese occupied Northern Indo-China to block Chinese supply routes - the French didn't have a prayer against the Japanese in a full scale war, and only bigger fish to fry elsewhere prevented Japanese occupation of the whole. With a larger and better equipped army and air force than the colonial French and a warming relationship with Japan the Thai military dictatorship of Phibun made a move to take disputed border regions. The Royal Thai Army defeated weak French forces and the Royal Thai Air Force defeated the Armee de l'Air and bombed French airfields and cities, but the French Navy wrecked the Royal Thai Navy. The Japanese "mediated" an armistice that awarded Thailand most of what they wanted; months later Japan demanded passage through Thailand to attack Burma and Malaya, with no official reply forthcoming the Japanese "invaded" Thailand on December 8th 1941 in a war lasting a few hours, which Phibun later dubiously claimed to have been prearranged as token resistance, signing an official alliance with Japan within a few weeks. Thailand declared war on Britain and the US in January 1942. The Armee de l'Air was outnumbered and outclassed. They only had relatively modern aircraft numbering in the single digits. The most numerous was about 30 antiquated Potez 25:  Farman F.221  Potez 542: French MS 406 vs. a Thai Curtiss Hawk III:  The Royal Thai Air Force was equipped with a mix of American and Japanese aircraft. Ki-30: Ki-21:  One of the actual Curtiss Hawk III's previously mentioned (Royal Thai Air Force museum)  Curtiss Hawk 75N:  One of my favorite bombers, the Martin B-10:  Vought O2U Corsair light bomber (Royal Thai Air Force museum):  After they were officially allies Japan provided additional modern aircraft, including the Ki-43 Hayabusa. The Royal Thai Air Force fought against the USAAF in southern China including some of the very first intercepts of B-29's, which were initially based in China. They claim the first B-29 kill ever, but I believe it's disputed. Elephant roundel:  Painting depicting RTAF Ki-43 in claimed first ever B-29 kill:  |
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Posted: 6/22/2020 6:19:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Derek45: I’m on my iphone, so not a great view here,.....but that looks photoshopped https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2275/F5001D32-2D89-4984-9A79-FD9AC31F7F40_jpe-1472490.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Derek45: I’m on my iphone, so not a great view here,.....but that looks photoshopped https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2275/F5001D32-2D89-4984-9A79-FD9AC31F7F40_jpe-1472490.JPG Winston Churchill, just after he left the captured Fieseler Storch (here in RAF markings) at Sainte-Croix-sur-Mer.  Attached FileAir Vice Marshal Broadhurst's Storch aircraft arrives, lands and taxies; Winston Churchill leaves Storch and is met by Wing Commander Maurice; he is helped up onto a platform, and addresses the airfield staff (Storch aircraft in background); various shots of crowd listening to Churchill (some seem to be more interested in the camera...); Churchill raises his peaked cap, in thanks for the staff's 'three cheers', he is escorted to a jeep by Broadhurst and Maurice, and is driven away (smoking a cigar); Churchill gets into the Storch, and raises his hat to the farewell party. |
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Posted: 6/22/2020 7:41:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/a595aa7776c23ec6ce728c032cf81ca2_jpg-1472592.JPG [raising arizona] OK then  yeah, I see it more clearly, now at home on a monitor.  |
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Posted: 6/22/2020 8:36:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Derek45: [raising arizona] OK then yeah, I see it more clearly, now at home on a monitor. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Derek45: [raising arizona] OK then yeah, I see it more clearly, now at home on a monitor. I tried to find you the entire stream of them. The first time I found them I was specifically looking up Storch photos, but now I can only find parts from that day he was in Normandy. Almost every Storch that was flyable was put into new paint, and loved by the allies. Lybia 1942 Bf 110 cantine  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/22/2020 8:42:59 PM EDT
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A GI and his girlfriend poses in front of a destroyed Bf 110 G-4 night fighter - somewhere in Germany 1945 (source: worldwarphotos)  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/22/2020 8:54:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/22/2020 11:12:52 PM EDT
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Are there any flyable Storch left today?
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Posted: 6/23/2020 2:03:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By armoredman: Are there any flyable Storch left today? Yes several. https://militaryaviationmuseum.org/ They got another one, and I believe it is waiting on sign off. I watched it taxi a few times last year. |
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Posted: 6/23/2020 9:45:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Yes several. https://militaryaviationmuseum.org/ They got another one, and I believe it is waiting on sign off. I watched it taxi a few times last year. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By armoredman: Are there any flyable Storch left today? Yes several. https://militaryaviationmuseum.org/ They got another one, and I believe it is waiting on sign off. I watched it taxi a few times last year.  Fieseler Storch - Part One - Kermie Cam |
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Posted: 6/23/2020 9:45:52 PM EDT
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Sweet, thanks
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Posted: 6/23/2020 10:02:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2020 10:12:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mp41: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/227797/9c4820ea98c9907c421142c39fec82f4_jpg-136-1474225.JPG Demonstration for the late war Reichs Militia? |
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