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Posted: 7/1/2020 8:07:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Found it. https://www.reddit.com/r/WWIIplanes/comments/2iilm4/usaaf_pilot_by_lt_eubanks_barnhill_flies_his_p47d/ USAAF pilot by Lt Eubanks Barnhill flies his P-47D Thunderbolt off the deck of Escort Carrier USS Manila Bay to ward off an aerial attack from four D3A Aichi "Val" dive bombers during refueling operations east of Saipan, Jun 23 1944. http://www.navsource.org/archives/03/061.htm USS Manila Bay (CVE-61) came under enemy air attack on June 23, 1944 east of Saipan. Two fighter bombers attacked her from dead ahead, dropping four bombs which missed their target note bombs splashing wide to port. Manila Bay was transporting 37 Army P-47 Thunderbolts from 73rd Fighter Squadron, 318th Fighter Group and, as a precautionary and rather unusual move which Admiral Spruance later characterized as "commendable initiative," four of them were launched to fly protective CAP until radar screens were clear of contacts. The Army fighters then flew to Saipan, their intended destination. http://www.navsource.org/archives/03/0306106.jpg Amazing photo. I had no idea P-47s ever launched from carriers. Thank you for digging up the article sir. |
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Posted: 7/1/2020 10:25:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: Riter]
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HMS Eagle
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Posted: 7/2/2020 2:10:32 PM EST
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 "The fuselage of Gloster Sea Gladiator Mark I, N5520 "Faith", in Palace Square, Valletta, Malta, on the occasion of its presentation to the people of Malta by Air Officer Commanding Air Headquarters Malta, Air Marshal Sir Keith Park."  |
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Posted: 7/2/2020 2:16:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LAWRENCETHOMPSON: Sorry I don't have any originals, but I eat WW2 history up and have an admiration for those men and women unlike anyone (or anything) on this earth. https://www.arcgis.com/sharing/rest/content/items/f3faf0ee7af44a988e9a195cf71a0bfb/resources/1581970192916.jpeg?w=1600 German 6th Army taken as POWs by the Red Army https://www.arcgis.com/sharing/rest/content/items/f3faf0ee7af44a988e9a195cf71a0bfb/resources/1583241898267.jpeg?w=1600 The fate of the sixth army: The army surrendered between 31 January and 2 February 1943. German casualties are 147,200 killed and wounded and over 91,000 captured, the latter including 24 generals and 2,500 officers of lesser rank. Only 5,000 would return to Germany after the war. 
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Posted: 7/2/2020 4:07:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabre_kc: Amazing photo. I had no idea P-47s ever launched from carriers. Thank you for digging up the article sir. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabre_kc: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Found it. https://www.reddit.com/r/WWIIplanes/comments/2iilm4/usaaf_pilot_by_lt_eubanks_barnhill_flies_his_p47d/ USAAF pilot by Lt Eubanks Barnhill flies his P-47D Thunderbolt off the deck of Escort Carrier USS Manila Bay to ward off an aerial attack from four D3A Aichi "Val" dive bombers during refueling operations east of Saipan, Jun 23 1944. http://www.navsource.org/archives/03/061.htm USS Manila Bay (CVE-61) came under enemy air attack on June 23, 1944 east of Saipan. Two fighter bombers attacked her from dead ahead, dropping four bombs which missed their target note bombs splashing wide to port. Manila Bay was transporting 37 Army P-47 Thunderbolts from 73rd Fighter Squadron, 318th Fighter Group and, as a precautionary and rather unusual move which Admiral Spruance later characterized as "commendable initiative," four of them were launched to fly protective CAP until radar screens were clear of contacts. The Army fighters then flew to Saipan, their intended destination. http://www.navsource.org/archives/03/0306106.jpg Amazing photo. I had no idea P-47s ever launched from carriers. Thank you for digging up the article sir. Most of the CVEs actually served as literal Aircraft Carriers. They were used to replenish fleet losses and to transport army aircraft to land bases.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 7/2/2020 4:16:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dog1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Most of the CVEs actually served as literal Aircraft Carriers. They were used to replenish fleet losses and to transport army aircraft to land bases. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/48680/CVE1_jpg-1486681.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/48680/CVE12_jpg-1486683.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/48680/cve-18a_jpg-1486685.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/48680/CVE90_jpg-1486687.JPG That second picture is that a bunch of Lockheed Ventura's? Certainly looks like them |
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Posted: 7/2/2020 4:20:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: That second picture is that a bunch of Lockheed Ventura's? Certainly looks like them Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By Dracster: Most of the CVEs actually served as literal Aircraft Carriers. They were used to replenish fleet losses and to transport army aircraft to land bases. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/48680/CVE1_jpg-1486681.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/48680/CVE12_jpg-1486683.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/48680/cve-18a_jpg-1486685.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/48680/CVE90_jpg-1486687.JPG That second picture is that a bunch of Lockheed Ventura's? Certainly looks like them It's also a CVL and not a CVE. I got excited. 
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Posted: 7/2/2020 5:03:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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The British also did that with RAF No. 46 Squadron Hurricanes off of HMS Glorious during the Norway campaign. The RAF pilots had never even been on a carrier before but flew off it. More amazing, when the Germans steamrolled Norway and the Brits had to run for it the Hurricanes were badly needed back in Britain and there was no time to land, ground transport, and crane them aboard, so No. 46 Squadron added sandbags to the tail end of the aircraft so that they wanted to pitch up constantly but the tail would instantly plant on landing allowing immediate full brakes, making a landing without a tailhook possible. The squadron CO was the first man to land a high performance aircraft on a carrier without a tailhook and when he survived the experience the rest of the squadron landed a total of 10 Hurricanes without incident.
Unfortunately Glorious' captain was in a hurry to court martial his CAG for cowardice and outran most his escorts then through gross negligence got caught by battleships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau with no CAP, no ready aircraft on deck, and no lookouts in the middle of the afternoon. Escorting destroyers Ardent and Acasta did what they could but were blown out of the water, Glorious bought it a few minutes later, not having had a chance to ready and launch any planes. 1500 dead and 40 survivors, including 2 pilots of 46 Squadron, one of which was the CO. 46 Squadron being loaded on Glorious to sail to Norway:  46 Squadron after landing to evacuate:  The Germans filmed blowing Glorious out of the water (3:05 on):  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 7/2/2020 5:29:01 PM EST
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Four stacks on starboard side does indicate it is an Independence class CVL.
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Posted: 7/2/2020 10:35:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Operational Ta-152 11/JG 301 and III. group https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/105991199_2715453142002647_6948132726311-1485265.JPG That was a sexy bird. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 3:44:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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BV 222
   Some had wing turrets added behind the outermost engines  Captured by the Brits in Norway:  Captured by the Americans:  "On 15 August and again on 20 August 1945, LCdr Richard Schreder of the US Navy performed test flights along with the Luftwaffe crew of one of the Bv 222 Wiking aircraft that had been acquired by the US. In two flights resulting in a total flight time of 38 minutes they experienced 4 engine fires. While many spare engines were available they were of substandard quality due to the lack of quality alloys near the end of the war, and caught fire easily. Since the aircraft was unairworthy with these engines, the aircraft was supposedly taken out to open water and sunk by a Navy Destroyer. Other reports indicate the US captured aircraft were flown or shipped to the US. Convair acquired one for evaluation at the Naval Air Station Patuxent River, the intensive studies leading to the hull design of their Model 117 which in turn led to the R3Y Tradewind. Their subsequent fate is unknown." |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:18:29 PM EST
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I know the hilfskreuzer Atlantis had a seaplane.
  Here is the Komet with her bird: 
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:32:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: BV 222 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1978-061-09%2C_Gro%C3%9Fflugboot_BV_222_%22Wiking%22.jpg https://travelforaircraft.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/blog-bv-222-21784001789_87391b14eb_o.jpg https://www.nevingtonwarmuseum.com/uploads/9/1/7/5/9175276/8427274_orig.jpeg Some had wing turrets added behind the outermost engines https://travelforaircraft.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/blog-bv-222-21783981619_4d91039071_o.jpg Captured by the Brits in Norway: http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Aircraft/Axis/RAF--Blohm-und-Voss-Bv-222V2--3-.jpg Captured by the Americans: http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Aircraft/Axis/USA--Blohm-und-Voss-BV-222-US-flag--USA-C-011-or-C-013--1-.jpg "On 15 August and again on 20 August 1945, LCdr Richard Schreder of the US Navy performed test flights along with the Luftwaffe crew of one of the Bv 222 Wiking aircraft that had been acquired by the US. In two flights resulting in a total flight time of 38 minutes they experienced 4 engine fires. While many spare engines were available they were of substandard quality due to the lack of quality alloys near the end of the war, and caught fire easily. Since the aircraft was unairworthy with these engines, the aircraft was supposedly taken out to open water and sunk by a Navy Destroyer. Other reports indicate the US captured aircraft were flown or shipped to the US. Convair acquired one for evaluation at the Naval Air Station Patuxent River, the intensive studies leading to the hull design of their Model 117 which in turn led to the R3Y Tradewind. Their subsequent fate is unknown." Good Lord that thing is huge. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:36:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: BV 222 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1978-061-09%2C_Gro%C3%9Fflugboot_BV_222_%22Wiking%22.jpg https://travelforaircraft.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/blog-bv-222-21784001789_87391b14eb_o.jpg https://www.nevingtonwarmuseum.com/uploads/9/1/7/5/9175276/8427274_orig.jpeg Some had wing turrets added behind the outermost engines https://travelforaircraft.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/blog-bv-222-21783981619_4d91039071_o.jpg Captured by the Brits in Norway: http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Aircraft/Axis/RAF--Blohm-und-Voss-Bv-222V2--3-.jpg Captured by the Americans: http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Aircraft/Axis/USA--Blohm-und-Voss-BV-222-US-flag--USA-C-011-or-C-013--1-.jpg "On 15 August and again on 20 August 1945, LCdr Richard Schreder of the US Navy performed test flights along with the Luftwaffe crew of one of the Bv 222 Wiking aircraft that had been acquired by the US. In two flights resulting in a total flight time of 38 minutes they experienced 4 engine fires. While many spare engines were available they were of substandard quality due to the lack of quality alloys near the end of the war, and caught fire easily. Since the aircraft was unairworthy with these engines, the aircraft was supposedly taken out to open water and sunk by a Navy Destroyer. Other reports indicate the US captured aircraft were flown or shipped to the US. Convair acquired one for evaluation at the Naval Air Station Patuxent River, the intensive studies leading to the hull design of their Model 117 which in turn led to the R3Y Tradewind. Their subsequent fate is unknown." That turret on the wing looks like a magical recipe for air sickness. 
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:42:22 PM EST
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Those escort carriers look so very.......narrow and.......short.
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:52:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: The British also did that with RAF No. 46 Squadron Hurricanes off of HMS Glorious during the Norway campaign. The RAF pilots had never even been on a carrier before but flew off it. More amazing, when the Germans steamrolled Norway and the Brits had to run for it the Hurricanes were badly needed back in Britain and there was no time to land, ground transport, and crane them aboard, so No. 46 Squadron added sandbags to the tail end of the aircraft so that they wanted to pitch up constantly but the tail would instantly plant on landing allowing immediate full brakes, making a landing without a tailhook possible. The squadron CO was the first man to land a high performance aircraft on a carrier without a tailhook and when he survived the experience the rest of the squadron landed a total of 10 Hurricanes without incident. Unfortunately Glorious' captain was in a hurry to court martial his CAG for cowardice and outran most his escorts then through gross negligence got caught by battleships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau with no CAP, no ready aircraft on deck, and no lookouts in the middle of the afternoon. Escorting destroyers Ardent and Acasta did what they could but were blown out of the water, Glorious bought it a few minutes later, not having had a chance to ready and launch any planes. 1500 dead and 40 survivors, including 2 pilots of 46 Squadron, one of which was the CO. 46 Squadron being loaded on Glorious to sail to Norway: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/a6/6b/1c/a66b1c2be954b9ddff4472e412726f1b.jpg 46 Squadron after landing to evacuate: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/531fdb48e4b0e8fbe6259952/1443340666190-7R3RM721KQR1WOR0L9SU/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kIoFp2Jdl--SCxM8XmaPxp5Zw-zPPgdn4jUwVcJE1ZvWQUxwkmyExglNqGp0IvTJZUJFbgE-7XRK3dMEBRBhUpyfR7lWaOoZJAqz4KHKuB-JgmBIVGCNieqga2tnXzouZ41_uAMJojkY4zxm-6AclWQ/0_fs.jpg?format=750w The Germans filmed blowing Glorious out of the water (3:05 on):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs2lnF-LiCQSurvivors of that disaster questioned Captain Guy D'Oyly-Hughes's poor judgement. If he had survived he would have been facing court martial for incompetence. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:57:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: That turret on the wing looks like a magical recipe for air sickness. Unless the outboard engine caught on fire and then I think your airsickness would go away
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Posted: 7/3/2020 5:33:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: TxLawDog]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gopher: The story: http://398th.org/History/Articles/Remembrances/Ostrom_FortressHome.html The bird.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/B-17_nose_jpg-1479840.JPG |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:11:31 PM EST
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Thanks TxLawDog.
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:16:53 PM EST
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Honey in Africa
 Turncoat Honey.  Another turncoat M-3. Eastern Front. /Hungary/Files/1-LightTanks/M3-Stuart/photo-02.Tanks.jpg) Socialist Stuart 
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Posted: 7/4/2020 9:02:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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AR 232. One of the first cargo planes to combine the now standard features of a high wing, high tail, and rear loading ramp. The A model was twin engine, the B model was equipped with four.
 Nicknamed "Millipede"  The retractable main gear could be partially relaxed to rest the plane on ten or eleven pairs of fixed wheels along the belly. The reduced ground pressure permitted landing and take off from soft fields and their linear arrangement allowed the plane to span ditches and small bomb craters.  The little wheels did not retract in flight, drag must have been significant  |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 10:54:30 AM EST
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  Check out its I-16 Ratas 
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Posted: 7/4/2020 11:22:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: Dog1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: AR 232. One of the first cargo planes to combine the now standard features of a high wing, high tail, and rear loading ramp. The A model was twin engine, the B model was equipped with four. https://alchetron.com/cdn/arado-ar-232-3d29ef39-08b9-4a3d-9d56-54a557f593e-resize-750.jpeg Nicknamed "Millipede" http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Aircraft/Axis/RAF-AM17--Arado-Ar-232B-0---Wk--Nr--305002---2-.jpg The retractable main gear could be partially relaxed to rest the plane on ten pairs of fixed wheels along the belly. The reduced ground pressure permitted landing and take off from soft fields and their linear arrangement allowed the plane to span ditches and small bomb craters. http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Aircraft/Axis/RAF-AM17--Arado-Ar-232B-0---Wk--Nr--305002---5-.jpg The little wheels did not retract in flight, drag must have been significant https://i.redd.it/iucyonnl5hu31.png In the same vein as the C-119 |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 1:48:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 13starsinax]
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The wedding ceremony of Werner Mölders and Luise Baldauf on September.13, 1941  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 4:58:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: birdbarian]
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: The wedding ceremony of Werner Mölders and Luise Baldauf on September.13, 1941 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/360668b5b488c1b26acd9782628f1583--luftwa-1489817.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/8c2e5b0512e72e982947828d9207955e--werner-1489818.JPG I worked with a Lt(jg) Baldauf. He was an Oceanographer. Wonder how common that name is. Japanese subs Minisub on Kiska  I-400  Captured boat at the end of the war 
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Posted: 7/5/2020 9:31:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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GO 242 glider
 The entire tail hinges open between the booms   Quickly evolved into a powered version, the GO 244  
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Posted: 7/5/2020 9:51:50 AM EST
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Posted: 7/6/2020 12:56:10 AM EST
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He 274, high altitude bomber derived from the HE 177. Once proposed for Amerikabomber, but did not realistically posses the range. Prototypes were near completion in France when the factory was overrun by the Allies. The French air force completed two aircraft and used them for research and testing.
 With piggyback SO.M1 testing glider, 1/2 scale model of SO.4000 jet bomber project. Also once piggybacked the insane Leduc ramjet interceptor prototype, sadly no photo found of them together.   French prototype SNCASO SO-M1 launched from a Heinkel He 274 (c1949) |
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Posted: 7/6/2020 1:50:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: He 274, high altitude bomber derived from the HE 177. Once proposed for Amerikabomber, but did not realistically posses the range. Prototypes were near completion in France when the factory was overrun by the Allies. The French air force completed two aircraft and used them for research and testing. https://i.pinimg.com/564x/84/dd/64/84dd64895c18dd4b1818f281d20c7485.jpg With piggyback SO.M1 testing glider, 1/2 scale model of SO.4000 jet bomber project. Also once piggybacked the insane Leduc ramjet interceptor prototype, sadly no photo found of them together. https://hushkit.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/he274-7.jpg?w=603&h=316 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpwENFMv5UUDerived from the He-277 I believe |
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Posted: 7/6/2020 1:51:25 PM EST
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Posted: 7/6/2020 2:21:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: He 274, high altitude bomber derived from the HE 177. Once proposed for Amerikabomber, but did not realistically posses the range. Prototypes were near completion in France when the factory was overrun by the Allies. The French air force completed two aircraft and used them for research and testing. https://i.pinimg.com/564x/84/dd/64/84dd64895c18dd4b1818f281d20c7485.jpg With piggyback SO.M1 testing glider, 1/2 scale model of SO.4000 jet bomber project. Also once piggybacked the insane Leduc ramjet interceptor prototype, sadly no photo found of them together. https://hushkit.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/he274-7.jpg?w=603&h=316 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpwENFMv5UUIn the later picture, it appears to have been re-engined. New props for sure. |
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Posted: 7/7/2020 10:51:26 AM EST
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https://www.amazon.com/Luftwaffe-Bomber-Pilot-Remembers-Schiffer/dp/0764313932
https://www.tracesofwar.com/persons/29191/H%C3%A4berlen-Klaus.htm  Attached File Attached FileA great read, different from a typical memoir. This gentleman stood up directly to Goering. |
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Posted: 7/7/2020 12:05:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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Cutting edge bomber, Ar-234b Blitz. One of these was the last Axis plane to fly over Britain April 1945.
  Surprisingly small:  Last ditch, Bu 181 trainer improvised into a tank buster with wing mounted Panzerfausts. Imagine flying one of these into the teeth of overwhelming Allied air supremacy and attacking a Russian tank corps at tree top height in an unarmored trainer with a top speed of 134 mph to fire point blank at a column of T-34's. Casualties said to have been very high.   Valkyrie Hitler assassination plotter Claus von Stauffenberg's sister in law Melitta Schenk Grafin von Stauffenberg was the second female Luftwaffe test pilot, behind Hanna Reitsch. Her brothers in law were executed and her husband sent to a concentration camp following the plot, but she was allowed to remain in active service as test pilot in the Luftwaffe. After a flyover of Buchenweld found it empty she was flying a Bu 181 searching for the concentration camp her husband had been moved to when she was shot down and killed by an American fighter plane on April 8 1945, fractured her skull in a crash landing.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/7/2020 1:16:22 PM EST
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Braunschweig Lf-1 Zaunkonig "foolproof" trainer. Pilots with glider experience were given 5 minutes of ground instruction before soloing. Only two built during the war, one of which crashed while being flown by the inventor when the wing failed:
  Ludicrous attempt to arm the tiny, 560 lb, 88mph top speed aircraft for ground attack:  Britain's famous test pilot Winkle Brown praised it after flying the second prototype, which had been captured and taken to Farnborough, where the Royal Aircraft Establishment agreed with inventor Hermann Winter that it was practically impossible to stall. Encouraged, Winter built another, but in 1957 consulting fighter ace Heinrich Bar (208 confirmed kills, 16 in an Me-262) discovered that it was just possible to put it into a flat spin and at least as hard to get it out of one, resulting in his death. Winter would complete one more aircraft for himself. |
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Posted: 7/7/2020 6:15:29 PM EST
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Posted: 7/7/2020 6:47:07 PM EST
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Posted: 7/7/2020 6:58:07 PM EST
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Posted: 7/7/2020 8:15:07 PM EST
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Quote History❤ |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 2:30:45 PM EST
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King's African Rifles in Burma
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Posted: 7/8/2020 6:36:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Cutting edge bomber, Ar-234b Blitz. One of these was the last Axis plane to fly over Britain April 1945. http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Aircraft/Aircraft--Germany/FE-1010--T2-1010--Arado-Ar-234B---Wk--Nr--140312---USA-50--4-.jpg http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Aircraft/Aircraft--Germany/FE-1010--T2-1010--Arado-Ar-234B---Wk--Nr--140312---USA-50--6-.jpg Surprisingly small: http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Aircraft/Aircraft--Germany/HighFlight-AradoOverflight2.jpg Last ditch, Bu 181 trainer improvised into a tank buster with wing mounted Panzerfausts. Imagine flying one of these into the teeth of overwhelming Allied air supremacy and attacking a Russian tank corps at tree top height in an unarmored trainer with a top speed of 134 mph to fire point blank at a column of T-34's. Casualties said to have been very high. http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Aircraft/Axis/Bucker-Bu-181-with-Panzerfausts.png http://img.svz.de/img/incoming/crop9009156/7716137890-cv16_9-h335/23-68433138.jpg Valkyrie Hitler assassination plotter Claus von Stauffenberg's sister in law Melitta Schenk Grafin von Stauffenberg was the second female Luftwaffe test pilot, behind Hanna Reitsch. Her brothers in law were executed and her husband sent to a concentration camp following the plot, but she was allowed to remain in active service as test pilot in the Luftwaffe. After a flyover of Buchenweld found it empty she was flying a Bu 181 searching for the concentration camp her husband had been moved to when she was shot down and killed by an American fighter plane on April 8 1945, fractured her skull in a crash landing. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/172926/melitta004_jpg-1493892.JPG http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_PbKWXbILT7c/R69GiB1R7bI/AAAAAAAAARM/tvxw4Bn5tKo/s320/melitta003.jpg Just some info. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arado_Ar_234 |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 7:55:54 PM EST
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AR-234C, twin Jumos replaced by 4 BMWs
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Posted: 7/9/2020 7:38:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: ThePontificator]
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Admittedly this photo predates WW2; it was taken in 1925.
Schoolchildren in Capronno, Italy pose for their class picture. Note every boy in the photo. Some of those children are my ancestors! 
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Posted: 7/9/2020 8:15:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: Admittedly this photo predates WW2; it was taken in 1925. Schoolchildren in Capronno, Italy pose for their class picture. Note every boy in the photo. Some of those children are my ancestors! https://i.imgur.com/6NqteXbl.jpg Interesting photo, and the context for you. What was the stiff arm salute in 1925 in Italy pledging allegiance to? |
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Posted: 7/9/2020 8:48:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
[#45]
BV 138
  Minesweeper with electromagnetic ring that simulates the hull of a passing ship to the magnetic detonator of a mine:    |
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Posted: 7/9/2020 9:13:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Interesting photo, and the context for you. What was the stiff arm salute in 1925 in Italy pledging allegiance to? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By ThePontificator: Admittedly this photo predates WW2; it was taken in 1925. Schoolchildren in Capronno, Italy pose for their class picture. Note every boy in the photo. Some of those children are my ancestors! https://i.imgur.com/6NqteXbl.jpg Interesting photo, and the context for you. What was the stiff arm salute in 1925 in Italy pledging allegiance to? |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 5:45:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoneWolf545: It was used in the US at the time. I know, the Bellamy salute. In Italy though what were they saluting? |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 5:50:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: BV 138 https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xVhPeoxvkrI/WaHUYpbnEqI/AAAAAAAAdWg/bjTdzfOJ-N0CeFBH2D57gqX9QLmKcPEnwCEwYBhgL/s1600/blo3.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/50/3a/7b/503a7b5b097e176385a8d6c67eaf895f.jpg Minesweeper with electromagnetic ring that simulates the hull of a passing ship to the magnetic detonator of a mine: https://laststandonzombieisland.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/blohm-voss-bv-138-2.png https://i.pinimg.com/564x/85/ff/aa/85ffaa5da6dc0982c49bdbbc2c624c29.jpg https://s017.radikal.ru/i414/1508/90/5354202f5011.jpg https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675049280_Blohm-and-Voss-Bv-138-float-plane_catapult_taking-off_German-ships One plane design the Germans can not get credit for, sort of. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 9:50:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675049280_Blohm-and-Voss-Bv-138-float-plane_catapult_taking-off_German-ships One plane design the Germans can not get credit for, sort of. Shot down off Scotland:  |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 7:44:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Why do you say that? As far as I can tell development was all German. Shot down off Scotland: http://www.historyofwar.org/Pictures/blohm_voss_BV_138.jpg Didn't Hamburger Flugzeugbau lean heavily on another designer for this plane? |
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