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Link Posted: 4/10/2023 6:29:42 AM EST
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Page Ownage!

That's a great price on the Champion.  I have 4 Champion Gens/Inverters.  All have been great and put through the paces.

I wouldn't hesitate to get a Champion.

Link Posted: 4/10/2023 8:19:08 AM EST
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In on 100
Link Posted: 4/10/2023 8:29:04 AM EST
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I can confirmed 'shipped' at that price.
Link Posted: 4/10/2023 8:35:33 AM EST
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Our last power outage finally pushed me to buy a generator. I just ordered this one from Acme, free shipping, should run my whole house easily and is dual fuel.

Duromax 12,000w dual fuel

Any tips for first startup and break-in? Putting it up for storage? Tips for propane vs gas? I plan on wiring in a 50amp receptacle outside to feed my main breaker. Any do's or don'ts?
Link Posted: 4/10/2023 10:25:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By feelthepayne:
Our last power outage finally pushed me to buy a generator. I just ordered this one from Acme, free shipping, should run my whole house easily and is dual fuel.

Duromax 12,000w dual fuel

Any tips for first startup and break-in? Putting it up for storage? Tips for propane vs gas? I plan on wiring in a 50amp receptacle outside to feed my main breaker. Any do's or don'ts?
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First, 100 pages!!

Second, congrats on the pickup, it's a beast for sure! I would still check on your A/C and look up it's LRA requirements and see if you should look at a soft start, it may not be required, but they don't hurt to have at all.

I would also run it on propane as much as possible, just to avoid carb issues. As for break in, there are a lot of people in this specific thread that may take things a step further than factory, and I'm one of them. No matter what, do what the book says. For me, I like to find a magnetic dipstick to replace the factory version, but be careful, metal magnetic dipsticks also get hot! I also change the oil after two hours, and three hours, making sure to wipe clean the dipstick. Some people magnetic oil drain plugs also. Vary the loads, and also make sure you aren't just plugged into the same 120v outlet, you'll want to plug into multiple, trying to keep an even load as possible.

There is nothing wrong with burning gas, it just takes a few more steps to wrap things up. One, get a battery operated or manual transfer pump. A siphon pump on Amazon is like $14. When done, run it dry. This may mean you need to pump back from the generator fuel tank into the fuel can. This really is where a pump comes in handy. With all the gas out that you can get, run the generator dry, this won't hurt the generator, but make sure you're unplugged from equipment. Some people will keep fuel in the tank, and run it dry by cutting off the fuel valve, but that's a personal decision and up to you if you want to try and remember that gas does go bad, even ethanol free with sta-bil. Finally, look at the engine and drain the carburetor bowl, even with a dry engine, you can still have gas gum up here and cause problems.

Generators are great to have and offer a huge piece of mind, but it's an investment that needs attention.
Link Posted: 4/10/2023 10:39:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By wesr228:


First, 100 pages!!

Second, congrats on the pickup, it's a beast for sure! I would still check on your A/C and look up it's LRA requirements and see if you should look at a soft start, it may not be required, but they don't hurt to have at all.

I would also run it on propane as much as possible, just to avoid carb issues. As for break in, there are a lot of people in this specific thread that may take things a step further than factory, and I'm one of them. No matter what, do what the book says. For me, I like to find a magnetic dipstick to replace the factory version, but be careful, metal magnetic dipsticks also get hot! I also change the oil after two hours, and three hours, making sure to wipe clean the dipstick. Some people magnetic oil drain plugs also. Vary the loads, and also make sure you aren't just plugged into the same 120v outlet, you'll want to plug into multiple, trying to keep an even load as possible.

There is nothing wrong with burning gas, it just takes a few more steps to wrap things up. One, get a battery operated or manual transfer pump. A siphon pump on Amazon is like $14. When done, run it dry. This may mean you need to pump back from the generator fuel tank into the fuel can. This really is where a pump comes in handy. With all the gas out that you can get, run the generator dry, this won't hurt the generator, but make sure you're unplugged from equipment. Some people will keep fuel in the tank, and run it dry by cutting off the fuel valve, but that's a personal decision and up to you if you want to try and remember that gas does go bad, even ethanol free with sta-bil. Finally, look at the engine and drain the carburetor bowl, even with a dry engine, you can still have gas gum up here and cause problems.

Generators are great to have and offer a huge piece of mind, but it's an investment that needs attention.
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Appreciate the advice!  
Link Posted: 4/10/2023 12:44:19 PM EST
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great price

but I would recommend getting the model with the 12V DC plug vs the twin-USB plug one.

I have the twin-USB plug version and now I'm limited to plugging in USB stuff

with the 12V DC one you could easily add a USB car adapter, 12V DC anderson powerpole extension and so on and get some distance from the generator.
Link Posted: 4/16/2023 7:25:28 AM EST
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Edit: I believe I found the answer to this question, I should be fine with it set up as is, my generator is a floating neutral. Still unsure about the load balancing question.

 I have set up my panel with a backfeed breaker, 50amps, and a 50amp receptacle outside to accept the 50amp hookup from the generator. I'm trying to figure out if I need to drive another ground rod dedicated to the generator or not. Currently the outside plug ground is wired to the receptacle enclosure via the internal ground lug and then I have a ground wire terminated to that lug which runs with the hot and neutral wires back to the main panel and landed in the ground bonded neutral bar. Is this correct? What circumstances would require the generator to have its own dedicated ground? I've done a lot of reading on the topic but it's still unclear to me.

I do have a mechanical interlock installed preventing the main breaker and the generator from being energized at the same time.

Also, I have a question about load balancing. When I have the generator set to 120/240v output to supply my house with just the 50amp cord plugged in, do I need to worry about load balancing?


Duromax 12,000w dual fuel
Link Posted: 4/18/2023 8:00:23 AM EST
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I just picked up one of these bike tents on clearance from Menards to use as a storm shelter for my generator. I think I paid like $17, much cheaper than the purpose made tents. Just make sure you point the exhaust out the door, hopefully it doesn't get too hot, I plan on leaving the door open while it's running.

Menards Bicycle Outdoor Storage Tent 79" W x 31-1/2" D x 65" H
Link Posted: 4/18/2023 1:58:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By feelthepayne:
I just picked up one of these bike tents on clearance from Menards to use as a storm shelter for my generator. I think I paid like $17, much cheaper than the purpose made tents. Just make sure you point the exhaust out the door, hopefully it doesn't get too hot, I plan on leaving the door open while it's running.

Menards Bicycle Outdoor Storage Tent 79" W x 31-1/2" D x 65" H
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Thanks, I picked one up.
Link Posted: 4/18/2023 2:08:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By feelthepayne:
I just picked up one of these bike tents on clearance from Menards to use as a storm shelter for my generator. I think I paid like $17, much cheaper than the purpose made tents. Just make sure you point the exhaust out the door, hopefully it doesn't get too hot, I plan on leaving the door open while it's running.

Menards Bicycle Outdoor Storage Tent 79" W x 31-1/2" D x 65" H
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I use something like that took keep pool accessories in, to free up space in the garage.  Be sure to use big, heavy, long tent stakes, or weigh it down by attaching it to some 2gal+ jugs full of water at each corner.
eta:  Fantastic price on that.
Link Posted: 4/18/2023 6:00:31 PM EST
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I am still trying to find a way or video of adding extended run solutions to a Predator 2K. Anyone done this or have a link?
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 2:46:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By zoe17:
I am still trying to find a way or video of adding extended run solutions to a Predator 2K. Anyone done this or have a link?
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You need something like this? Not sure if it's universal or if you have to find one with the same filler cap as yours.

Inverter Generator Auxiliary Fuel Tank

Compatible with: Honda EU1000i, EU2200iTA; Generac IX800, IX1600, IX2000; All Power APG3101, APG3102; ETQ IN800i, IN1800i
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If it's compatible with Honda it might work on the Predator since it's basically a Honda clone.
If the cap doesn't fit maybe you can order a couple spare caps from harbor freight and modify them to accept the brass fitting on the end of the hose with a bulkhead fitting or something.
Link Posted: 4/29/2023 4:56:13 PM EST
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Champion 2500W Dual Fuel Inverter for $399 at Blain's

2500W Champion
Link Posted: 4/29/2023 5:06:04 PM EST
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Wow. That's a pretty good deal. $17 shipping, too.
Link Posted: 4/29/2023 7:26:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PKT1106:
Champion 2500W Dual Fuel Inverter for $399 at Blain's

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As a long time Champion genny fan and owner at some point I have to ask what kind of fukery is up with these ratings? This Champion unit is rated @ 2.5K watts but is only 79cc. The tried and true workhorse Honda 2.2K watt is 121cc. I smell BS.

My yearly PSA. Check the air filter before you start your Honda 2000 up after sitting for a while. The filters in my 2 Honda gennies disintegrate into a sponge cake like mess after 4-5 years.
Link Posted: 4/29/2023 7:38:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By feelthepayne:



You need something like this? Not sure if it's universal or if you have to find one with the same filler cap as yours.

Inverter Generator Auxiliary Fuel Tank



If it's compatible with Honda it might work on the Predator since it's basically a Honda clone.
If the cap doesn't fit maybe you can order a couple spare caps from harbor freight and modify them to accept the brass fitting on the end of the hose with a bulkhead fitting or something.
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Originally Posted By feelthepayne:
Originally Posted By zoe17:
I am still trying to find a way or video of adding extended run solutions to a Predator 2K. Anyone done this or have a link?



You need something like this? Not sure if it's universal or if you have to find one with the same filler cap as yours.

Inverter Generator Auxiliary Fuel Tank

Compatible with: Honda EU1000i, EU2200iTA; Generac IX800, IX1600, IX2000; All Power APG3101, APG3102; ETQ IN800i, IN1800i


If it's compatible with Honda it might work on the Predator since it's basically a Honda clone.
If the cap doesn't fit maybe you can order a couple spare caps from harbor freight and modify them to accept the brass fitting on the end of the hose with a bulkhead fitting or something.

You have to place the extended tank above the Predators so it will gravityfeed.

The Hondas have fuel pumps and will draw from a tank on the ground dext to them.
Link Posted: 4/29/2023 11:01:07 PM EST
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After reading the owners manual pertaining to the 15k BTU A/C unit on my RV, it stated that I needed at least a 3500 watt generator to power.  I bought the 5500 peak / 4000 running watts dual fuel electric start generator that I could only find through Cabelas / Bass Pro.  Weight is 118 LBS and super quiet.
Link Posted: 5/7/2023 6:06:38 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/12/2023 12:27:02 PM EST
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Champion 2500W Dual Fuel Inverter for $460 as of this post.

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Link Posted: 5/23/2023 11:37:22 AM EST
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What are everyone's thoughts on this generator?  Looking to power a few things at the house during a power outage and then something for light use while camping, mainly recharging a battery bank.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08L45W2V9?psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 11:39:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By PKT1106:
Champion 2500W Dual Fuel Inverter for $460 as of this post.

www.amazon.com/dp/B08L45W2V9
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Just ran across this one myself.
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 12:48:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 3one5:

Just ran across this one myself.
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Originally Posted By 3one5:
Originally Posted By PKT1106:
Champion 2500W Dual Fuel Inverter for $460 as of this post.

www.amazon.com/dp/B08L45W2V9

Just ran across this one myself.



Twice the wattage for about the same investment (no dual fuel though).
Dual fuel to me isn’t worth it, you lose 15-20% on propane vs gasoline.

4250 watts of Champion Inverter
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 1:02:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hockeysew:



Twice the wattage for about the same investment (no dual fuel though).
Dual fuel to me isn't worth it, you lose 15-20% on propane vs gasoline.

4250 watts of Champion Inverter
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Originally Posted By hockeysew:
Originally Posted By 3one5:
Originally Posted By PKT1106:
Champion 2500W Dual Fuel Inverter for $460 as of this post.

www.amazon.com/dp/B08L45W2V9

Just ran across this one myself.



Twice the wattage for about the same investment (no dual fuel though).
Dual fuel to me isn't worth it, you lose 15-20% on propane vs gasoline.

4250 watts of Champion Inverter
This hasn't been the case for me. I have the 2000w (1600w running) champion inverter, and was able to load it all the way up to 1600 watts on propane. Verified with kill-a-watt type meter.

Maybe my generator is underrated, and I have not tested its max load on gas as I don't plan on ever putting gas into it. So, maybe it'll do higher than 1600 on gas. But, I was definitely able to hit rated gasoline load on propane. YMMV
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 1:14:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mitsuman47:
This hasn't been the case for me. I have the 2000w (1600w running) champion inverter, and was able to load it all the way up to 1600 watts on propane. Verified with kill-a-watt type meter.

Maybe my generator is underrated, and I have not tested its max load on gas as I don't plan on ever putting gas into it. So, maybe it'll do higher than 1600 on gas. But, I was definitely able to hit rated gasoline load on propane. YMMV
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Originally Posted By mitsuman47:
Originally Posted By hockeysew:
Originally Posted By 3one5:
Originally Posted By PKT1106:
Champion 2500W Dual Fuel Inverter for $460 as of this post.

www.amazon.com/dp/B08L45W2V9

Just ran across this one myself.



Twice the wattage for about the same investment (no dual fuel though).
Dual fuel to me isn't worth it, you lose 15-20% on propane vs gasoline.

4250 watts of Champion Inverter
This hasn't been the case for me. I have the 2000w (1600w running) champion inverter, and was able to load it all the way up to 1600 watts on propane. Verified with kill-a-watt type meter.

Maybe my generator is underrated, and I have not tested its max load on gas as I don't plan on ever putting gas into it. So, maybe it'll do higher than 1600 on gas. But, I was definitely able to hit rated gasoline load on propane. YMMV



Propane only produces about 75% of the power of gasoline. That loss ends up someplace and it’s in electrical output.
You’re at low altitude in TX so the loss may be less noticeable but at 10,000 ft in the Rockies the loss is quite noticeable.
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 2:15:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hockeysew:



Twice the wattage for about the same investment (no dual fuel though).
Dual fuel to me isn’t worth it, you lose 15-20% on propane vs gasoline.

4250 watts of Champion Inverter
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While I wouldn't mind grabbing a larger unit I'd probably do that down the road.  I need something compact and easy to haul around.
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 3:46:33 PM EST
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Champion is good stuff. That's a pretty good price.
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 3:55:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hockeysew:



Twice the wattage for about the same investment (no dual fuel though).
Dual fuel to me isn’t worth it, you lose 15-20% on propane vs gasoline.

4250 watts of Champion Inverter
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dual fuel means options though.

Propane is my primary.  Doesn't expire, doesn't go bad, won't sit in a carb (even just a little bit).

And gas becomes my backup.
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 4:11:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By danpass:

dual fuel means options though.

Propane is my primary.  Doesn't expire, doesn't go bad, won't sit in a carb (even just a little bit).

And gas becomes my backup.
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I have propane plumbed into my overland trailer with quick disconnects.  I wanted dual fuel for ease of use.  I cook with it, I heat with it and wanted to run the generator with it.  I don't need the full output of the 2500w generator so I'm not terribly concerned.  I mainly wanted an alternate for charging my 200AH battery bank when there isn't any sun.
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 9:01:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hockeysew:

Twice the wattage for about the same investment (no dual fuel though).
Dual fuel to me isn’t worth it, you lose 15-20% on propane vs gasoline.

4250 watts of Champion Inverter
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At 10,000 ft, I can see propane being less efficient. Most of us that live closer to sea level enjoy the option because propane pretty much last forever, so it’s always ready when needed.
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 9:08:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 3one5:
What are everyone's thoughts on this generator?  Looking to power a few things at the house during a power outage and then something for light use while camping, mainly recharging a battery bank.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08L45W2V9?psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp
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Others already linked that exact deal, because it’s a great deal on a well reviewed generator. Buy with confidence.

In regards to working for you, it will power lights tv and fridges, just have to manage what you’re plugging in.
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 8:42:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By wesr228:


Others already linked that exact deal, because it’s a great deal on a well reviewed generator. Buy with confidence.

In regards to working for you, it will power lights tv and fridges, just have to manage what you’re plugging in.
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Originally Posted By wesr228:
Originally Posted By 3one5:
What are everyone's thoughts on this generator?  Looking to power a few things at the house during a power outage and then something for light use while camping, mainly recharging a battery bank.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08L45W2V9?psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp


Others already linked that exact deal, because it’s a great deal on a well reviewed generator. Buy with confidence.

In regards to working for you, it will power lights tv and fridges, just have to manage what you’re plugging in.

I have that size.  Mine is a slightly different model as it has the USB ports built in.  

Personally, for this size, I recommend the model linked above as it has the cigarette lighter plug instead of the fixed USB ports.

As to the size itself:

I had an electrician wire the panel with an interlock, 30A, 240V connection.  I can use a 240V generator up to 7500W or, like with this one, use a 120V with a 240V adapter.

The 2500, thru the adapter will feed both sides of the panel with 120V.  This means that all the 120V wall outlets, and all the lightswitches, in the house will be energized.

Without running a single extension cord I can run the refrigerator, medical devices and TVs/Computers/Router/Internet at the same time.

I can add the microwave to the mix for a short time OR the coffee maker OR the toaster to the mix.  So those have to take turns lol

No 240V units (like central AC) with this size genny.
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 12:02:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hockeysew:



Propane only produces about 75% of the power of gasoline. That loss ends up someplace and it’s in electrical output.
You’re at low altitude in TX so the loss may be less noticeable but at 10,000 ft in the Rockies the loss is quite noticeable.
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Originally Posted By hockeysew:
Originally Posted By mitsuman47:
Originally Posted By hockeysew:
Originally Posted By 3one5:
Originally Posted By PKT1106:
Champion 2500W Dual Fuel Inverter for $460 as of this post.

www.amazon.com/dp/B08L45W2V9

Just ran across this one myself.



Twice the wattage for about the same investment (no dual fuel though).
Dual fuel to me isn't worth it, you lose 15-20% on propane vs gasoline.

4250 watts of Champion Inverter
This hasn't been the case for me. I have the 2000w (1600w running) champion inverter, and was able to load it all the way up to 1600 watts on propane. Verified with kill-a-watt type meter.

Maybe my generator is underrated, and I have not tested its max load on gas as I don't plan on ever putting gas into it. So, maybe it'll do higher than 1600 on gas. But, I was definitely able to hit rated gasoline load on propane. YMMV



Propane only produces about 75% of the power of gasoline. That loss ends up someplace and it’s in electrical output.
You’re at low altitude in TX so the loss may be less noticeable but at 10,000 ft in the Rockies the loss is quite noticeable.


I don’t know what your personal experience is with propane generators, but mine is the same as mitsuman47 in two different units for the past few years.  One is a Predator 3500 running on natural gas, the other is an AiPower 2000 running propane.  Both put out their rated watts measured with a Kil-A-Watt meter.  I test run each about once a month under load, and run them in parallel when I lose power once or twice a year.  

If your propane genny drops 25% I’d try and find out what is wrong with it.  If you are at 10,000 feet , even gasoline probably drops off that amount.
Link Posted: 6/3/2023 10:20:57 AM EST
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Harbor freight generator question. The 3 invertor generators are all within $180 of each other the 2000 ($619), the 3550 ($799) and the 4550 ($700)  the 4550 needs a $60 wheel kit, the 3550 has little wheels and the 2000 needs no wheels. I have a larger older 15000 already .  Is one of these a better product ?
Link Posted: 6/4/2023 12:39:06 PM EST
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Anyone ?
Link Posted: 6/4/2023 1:57:01 PM EST
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for the price i would go with the 2000watt because you already have a big one that can carry house load. although i like the 3500-4000 watt range that premium price isnt working for me. the 2000 is enough to run some fans, fridges, and tv while sipping gas.

Link Posted: 6/4/2023 5:34:13 PM EST
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Harbor freight generator question. The 3 invertor generators are all within $180 of each other the 2000 ($619), the 3550 ($799) and the 4550 ($700)  the 4550 needs a $60 wheel kit, the 3550 has little wheels and the 2000 needs no wheels. I have a larger older 15000 already .  Is one of these a better product ?
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The 4550 is cheaper?    just buy a cheap furniture dolly instead of the wheel kit.  

I'd also consider displacement vs output and look at fuel consumption.   The reality is even with a 4550 you're not starting any large loads and I doubt you'd need that much output.  For comparison I ran 3 refrigerators a chest freezer tv home network and two computers with 2 2000s in parallel with plenty of room to spare.

If I actually tired to manage the loads one 2000 would of been plenty to keep the food cold and the kids entertained.  

Link Posted: 6/5/2023 6:16:49 PM EST
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Since no one has come forward with any documented evidence of the supposed output loss on propane or natural gas, here is a photo I just took.  I run my two generators monthly or so.  One is my Predator 3500 which I converted to natural gas with a tri fuel kit from NashFuel a few years back.  The photo is my AiPower SUA2000iD 2KW Duel Fuel.  It has a hand held hair dryer plugged into a Kil-A-Watt meter.  The hair dryer is reading 1652W, and the generator is rated as 1600W gasoline, 1500W Propane.   I get the same hair dryer 1650 reading when plugged in to a home wall outlet.



Note that the Output Indicator is glowing green, and the Overload Alarm is not lit.

I hope this will help dispel the "Common Knowledge" of natgas or propane being inferior fuels.  To me, they are quite the opposite.  I get similar results with the Predator 3500 displaying 2950-2964W output on it's built in power meter.  I run an electric home space heater for it's load at about the same rating as the hair dryer.

For the record, I run these two units in parallel with a cable from WEN via Amazon and do not use a factory parallel kit.  The cable is a WEN GNA25i 25 amp, 3000W 12 ga. 3 conductor for $12.38 on Amazon.com.  The cables are pretty sturdy and 5.5 ft. long.  I recommend using wingnuts for the ground connection for ease of removal.

Edited on 7-22-23 to add:  I am running my 2 gensets again and the temperature is in the high 80's and the output has fallen slightly.  The 2Kw AiPower is now displaying about 1585W running the same hair dryer from the pic posted above.   I assume the hotter, thinner air from the increase in temp has caused this minor decrease in power.  Still, for a unit rated to be 1500W on propane, it is still holding it's own at this level, and challenges the "Common Knowledge" of a significant drop in power going from gasoline to propane.
Link Posted: 6/20/2023 11:00:22 AM EST
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I have had a 2k Wen for several years, used for both camping and saving us during power outages.  I have been looking for a larger dual fuel unit both for a Travel Trailer when at my hunting lease and to tie into the house to power some more things (not planning on central AC).  I ended up ordering the 4500 Dual fuel unit (which had an extra 5% coupon).  $700 to my door is a hell of a deal.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08L9R5YC5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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No idea but I had an ancient Honda EM650 that I wired up to our furnace when we lost power for over a week a few winters ago.   It worked thank God.   Ended up upgrading after that winter to a Westinghouse duel fuel 4500 then converted to tri-fuel so it can connect to the gas meter.
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Originally Posted By 2tired2run:



Whats typical the current draw for a gas furnace?  Blower, glow plugs etc booster fan (might be the wrong terminology) seems like it might be more than a 2kw can handle?

No idea but I had an ancient Honda EM650 that I wired up to our furnace when we lost power for over a week a few winters ago.   It worked thank God.   Ended up upgrading after that winter to a Westinghouse duel fuel 4500 then converted to tri-fuel so it can connect to the gas meter.


What did you do to convert to tri fuel
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Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:



i have this same genny. it is 12k peak 9.5k running. decent unit but will not start my ac unit.  

oil it up, follow the manual on the breakin run time and change the oil. done. then just run it a couple of times a year to flush the fuel and make sure all is well.

keep in mind propane will drop the output a bit to below the spec on gasoline. fine for running but for high amp starts may not get you there. i adjusted mine to run on NG and it does so pretty well.
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Originally Posted By feelthepayne:
Our last power outage finally pushed me to buy a generator. I just ordered this one from Acme, free shipping, should run my whole house easily and is dual fuel.

Duromax 12,000w dual fuel

Any tips for first startup and break-in? Putting it up for storage? Tips for propane vs gas? I plan on wiring in a 50amp receptacle outside to feed my main breaker. Any do's or don'ts?



i have this same genny. it is 12k peak 9.5k running. decent unit but will not start my ac unit.  

oil it up, follow the manual on the breakin run time and change the oil. done. then just run it a couple of times a year to flush the fuel and make sure all is well.

keep in mind propane will drop the output a bit to below the spec on gasoline. fine for running but for high amp starts may not get you there. i adjusted mine to run on NG and it does so pretty well.


@The_Beer_Slayer

A lot of AC units have crazy high amp draws on startup. It is even more limited if you are only using a 30amp receptacle in your connection.  That said, there are tons of people power their AC, even two units with that same generator.  I would look into a hard or soft start system.

It is facebook, but there is a local group to me specifically about powering homes with portable gennys and most people have similar duromax units.  See if you can check out this group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/1716967438485868
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Harbor Freight 8750 Peak 7000 Running Watts Inverter Generator.

I am very happy with how well it ran my AC, Fridge, Deep freezer, 70" TV APPLE box and router, phone charger.

Electric goes out to often around here.
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Harbor Freight 8750 Peak 7000 Running Watts Inverter Generator.

I am very happy with how well it ran my AC, Fridge, Deep freezer, 70" TV APPLE box and router, phone charger.

Electric goes out to often around here.
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Do you have various UPSs around the house?

I’ve done that with computer setups and tv living room setup.

I don’t like to wait for things to reset
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Originally Posted By danpass:

Do you have various UPSs around the house?

I’ve done that with computer setups and tv living room setup.

I don’t like to wait for things to reset
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I have a UPS on the router, working from home sometimes, I can’t lose connectivity. The computers are laptops though, so that’s easy.

What I do have is a mini, 4 circuit transfer switch I can plug a power station into, from the closet.

So I do have to turn the monitors back on! Lol
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