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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:00:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FL_Roscoe:
I bought one last week and have it running right now next to the house. You can hear it running with the windows open but it's not obscene like my bigger generator. With the windows closed you wouldn't notice it. We're going on day 3 without power after Irma and it's been great. I have it plugged into a UPS with a TV/Fan/Fridge on the battery/surge outlets and a 12,000 BTU AC unit on a surge only outlet and the UPS only kicks in when the AC compressor starts up. There's a coupon that brings the price down to $399. Coupon |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:01:10 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blwngazkit:
That coupon works for me as of 5 minutes ago using FireFox... |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:01:15 PM EDT
[#3]
I'm going to link the code in the OP for anyone who wants to get one
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:04:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: andersw]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKCory762:
You do know there's a difference between a regular generator and an inverter generator right.........  I don't know the difference. Can you fill me in?
ETA: saw someone else didn't know too and you answered. Thanks. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:09:24 PM EDT
[#5]
So, would the 2000 watt be enought to run a fridge, and maybe a couple of lamps? and maybe a fan too?
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:11:59 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
So, would the 2000 watt be enought to run a fridge, and maybe a couple of lamps? and maybe a fan too? |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:14:05 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zoe17:
Yes easy for that. Buy some LED bulbs and have 10X more lights. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:15:18 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
So, would the 2000 watt be enought to run a fridge, and maybe a couple of lamps? and maybe a fan too? |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:16:46 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FL_Roscoe:
I bought one last week and have it running right now next to the house. You can hear it running with the windows open but it's not obscene like my bigger generator. With the windows closed you wouldn't notice it. We're going on day 3 without power after Irma and it's been great. I have it plugged into a UPS with a TV/Fan/Fridge on the battery/surge outlets and a 12,000 BTU AC unit on a surge only outlet and the UPS only kicks in when the AC compressor starts up. There's a coupon that brings the price down to $399. Coupon |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:17:42 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKCory762:
i'm pretty sure your average fridge is around say 700-1,000 watts. Lamps especially if your using LED bulbs take almost nothing. a box style fan? probably 100 watts. I think you would be just fine and have some power left over. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:17:53 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21:
Do they have a version that runs on propane? |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:21:20 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
I am more concerned about the startup wattage for the fridge, than the running wattage |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:25:40 PM EDT
[#13]
Can you run a standard sized (non super high end samsung with a TV) refrigerator on one of these?
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:32:23 PM EDT
[#14]
Seems rather high for the fridge ....
http://home.howstuffworks.com/home-improvement/household-safety/security/emergency-power2.htm |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:33:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ford302]
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evile:
Can you run a standard sized (non super high end samsung with a TV) refrigerator on one of these? I have the parallel kit and another generator and never really have even had to use it. I have even had the fridge compressor and furnace fan basically go at the same time and it had no issue. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:33:58 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By medicmandan:
Found this on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Predator-Gen-8750-Natural-Propane-Conversion/dp/B00NUCEL14 
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:37:32 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ford302:
I can run my fridge, 60 inch samsung, smoke detectors, Laptop and monitors and furnace and a ton of lights -LED off my Eu2000i. I have the parallel kit and another generator and never really have even had to use it. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:41:26 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKCory762:
Damn that's pretty good. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:45:38 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKCory762:
Snip: A conventional generator is nothing more than an engine connected to an alternator and run at a speed that produces the desired AC frequency, regardless of the load on it (as the load increases the engine throttles up to keep the engine speed the same). The output of the alternator is connected directly to the load, without any processing. With an inverter generator, the engine is connected to an efficient alternator, which produces AC electricity, just like a conventional generator. But then a rectifier is used to convert the AC power to DC and capacitors are used to smooth it out to a certain degree. The DC power is then “inverted” back into clean AC power of the desired frequency and voltage (e.g., 110-120VAC @ 60Hz). Regulation is very good and this system produces consistent power characteristics independent of the engine speed. The result is much “cleaner” power (“pure sine waves”) than is possible with a conventional generator, essentially the same quality of electricity that you typically get from your electric company. Link Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKCory762:
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
What is the difference? I hear they're quieter and more efficient, but I don't know what's different about them. Are they a new thing? I've only heard of them recently. Of course, I've never shopped for a generator before. With an inverter generator, the engine is connected to an efficient alternator, which produces AC electricity, just like a conventional generator. But then a rectifier is used to convert the AC power to DC and capacitors are used to smooth it out to a certain degree. The DC power is then “inverted” back into clean AC power of the desired frequency and voltage (e.g., 110-120VAC @ 60Hz). Regulation is very good and this system produces consistent power characteristics independent of the engine speed. The result is much “cleaner” power (“pure sine waves”) than is possible with a conventional generator, essentially the same quality of electricity that you typically get from your electric company. Link OH, they use 3 phase power. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:53:19 PM EDT
[#20]
I don't have any evidence but I think the surge capacity on the Honda's is underrated.
Either that or my Fridge has a much lower startup draw than I anticipated. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:54:14 PM EDT
[#21]
Got the 3500 watt version and used it 24/7 for the past three days as we were without power from hurricane Irma. So quiet and worked awesome.
Ran a full sized fridge with freezer, 2 box fans, lamp, 60in plasma, surround sound, PS3, and two strings of led rope lights as well as charging a bunch of electronic devices without a glitch. Was super quiet, could hear all the neighbors generators but ours was barely audible. The only downside is the oil change interval. Seriously, 8 hours? Can anyone else confirm this? Is it a typo. No other generator I've used or seen has such a short oil change interval recommended in the owners manual. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:57:57 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SKWEE-G:
Got the 3500 watt version and used it 24/7 for the past three days as we were without power from hurricane Irma. So quiet and worked awesome. Ran a full sized fridge with freezer, 2 box fans, lamp, 60in plasma, surround sound, PS3, and two strings of led rope lights as well as charging a bunch of electronic devices without a glitch. Was super quiet, could hear all the neighbors generators but ours was barely audible. The only downside is the oil change interval. Seriously, 8 hours? Can anyone else confirm this? Is it a typo. No other generator I've used or seen has such a short oil change interval recommended in the owners manual. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:59:04 PM EDT
[#23]
I might invest in one for the next storm. I was extremely lucky and never lost power.. This time
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:01:13 PM EDT
[#24]
Any suggestions for a good watt meter? Something that works with reactive loads?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:02:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SKWEE-G]
[#25]
In three days we used 6 gallons of fuel. We have 15 gal on hand and would have been good for a while. Ended up running out of sta-bil which is a requirement per the warranty info in the manual
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:12:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RichJ]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKCory762:
You do know there's a difference between a regular generator and an inverter generator right......... |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:13:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Burnsy]
[#27]
Can you safely run electronics off of those? Routers, computers etc?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:16:18 PM EDT
[#28]
Im actually interested in this one more power more outlets less money link I understand its a standard generator and not an inverter type
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:16:25 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Burnsy:
Can you safely run electronics off of those? Rounters, computers etc? The UPS to the computer setup gets fussy (in addition to blackouts it intervenes for electronic noise) when it is running off my caveman genny and especially fussy when I flip on the breaker for the water heater lol. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:24:57 PM EDT
[#30]
@AKCory762
I was looking at those in the latest catalog I got in the mail. We camp with the RV a bit and that would be nice and quiet compared to the open air generators - especially the 8700W HF one I have in the garage! @AKCory762 - can you run it parallel with another one? I think I remember seeing that in the ad. They have a kit. I think they also have a larger one like 3000W PSA: I have found the Predator engines to be fairly reliable, the above 8700W genny starts on the first pull all the time. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:28:38 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Will:
Bought two Hondas years ago. Paid less than the Harbor Freight model here.....Think I'll keep them. 
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:31:12 PM EDT
[#32]
Would it be safe to run one on a condo balcony?
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:31:25 PM EDT
[#33]
I'll be picking up a HF 3500 inverter tomorrow. Does anyone have a coupon code that might work for it?
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:33:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
What is the difference? I hear they're quieter and more efficient, but I don't know what's different about them. Are they a new thing? I've only heard of them recently. Of course, I've never shopped for a generator before. A standard genset is a constant RPM motor, because the generator head has to turn at 3600 RPM to get 60Hz power out of it. So the motor is running faster and louder. The inverter type has an eco mode that throttles the engine up and down to adjust to the load. So they're quieter, more fuel efficient and produce better quality power. ETA: Man I'm slow... 
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:34:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Didn't see a way to purchase online and pickup in store. Anyone know if this is possible?
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:37:00 PM EDT
[#36]
I'd like to know more about the oil change interval. If true that would be a deal-breaker for me. Achilles heel of China-made stuff.
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:37:37 PM EDT
[#37]
The generators are one thing that Harbor Freight sells that are actually good. And not only are they "good', they are EXTREMELY good. The Inverter gens and the predator gens are good to go.
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:40:03 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
So, would the 2000 watt be enough to run a fridge, and maybe a couple of lamps? and maybe a fan too? LED lights are nothing. 100W of LED can light a house. Fans are nothing, very small loads. A Honda eu2000 is rated at 1600W continuous, 2000W peak for (some number of seconds). Don't add big loads, a microwave oven is in the 1000-1200Watt range, so you need to load shed when running. Look at the placards or owner's manuals of your equipment, the load ratings will be there. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:42:50 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ford302:
I recommend getting the 5 gallon extended run tank setup. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:43:22 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ford302:
I recommend getting the 5 gallon extended run tank setup. I have a 3 gallon and 6 gallon boat tank and twin fuel lines so I can run the two generators together (from either tanks) or run each separately (such as taking one to a family members house). That setup keeps the internal tanks on the gennys filled, so if you need to refill the main tank you can stay running and disconnect and safely refill the main tank. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:46:45 PM EDT
[#41]
Easily neck beard down here for a $1000.
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:47:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kinglou0]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bronsonburner:
I'd like to know more about the oil change interval. If true that would be a deal-breaker for me. Achilles heel of China-made stuff. Manual |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:49:46 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mitsuman47:
Didn't see a way to purchase online and pickup in store. Anyone know if this is possible? |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:50:07 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dr-G:
@AKCory762 I was looking at those in the latest catalog I got in the mail. We camp with the RV a bit and that would be nice and quiet compared to the open air generators - especially the 8700W HF one I have in the garage! @AKCory762 - can you run it parallel with another one? I think I remember seeing that in the ad. They have a kit. I think they also have a larger one like 3000W PSA: I have found the Predator engines to be fairly reliable, the above 8700W genny starts on the first pull all the time. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:52:29 PM EDT
[#45]
Thanks OP. I needed one.
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Posted: 9/13/2017 6:00:51 PM EDT
[#46]
Looking at the parts diagram in the manual, it shows a bridge rectifier in addition to the inverter. That would imply that the actual generator produces AC. Looks like a regular 4 pin bridge rectifier, so the generator is probably single phase. I think a 3ph rectifier has 5 pins.
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Posted: 9/13/2017 6:01:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kinglou0:
On page 16 of the 3500w manual, it does have a tick mark indicating that an 8hr interval on engine oil. That's concerning. Can anybody provide some insight on this? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kinglou0:
Originally Posted By Bronsonburner:
I'd like to know more about the oil change interval. If true that would be a deal-breaker for me. Achilles heel of China-made stuff. Oil changes: Monthly or every 8 hours of use AND Every 6 months or 100 Hours of use AND Yearly or 300 hours of use BUT NOT Every 3 months or 50 Hours of use The way it reads, you would never get to the higher/longer intervals because the minimum is monthly or every 8 hours. And why is the 3 month interval not checked if you're doing changes monthly anyway? The Honda manual reads: First month or 20 hours THEN Every 6 months or 100 hours. Honda EU2000i Also the break in period specified in the HF manual is 25 hours, after which it directs changing the oil. It's not mentioned in the maintenance section, but that's more in line with the Honda manual. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 6:07:00 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP:
That chart doesn't make any sense Oil changes: Monthly or every 8 hours of use AND Every 6 months or 100 Hours of use AND Yearly or 300 hours of use BUT NOT Every 3 months or 50 Hours of use The way it reads, you would never get to the higher/longer intervals because the minimum is monthly or every 8 hours. And why is the 3 month interval not checked if you're doing changes monthly anyway? The Honda manual reads: First month or 20 hours THEN Every 6 months or 100 hours. Also the break in period specified in the HF manual is 25 hours, after which it directs changing the oil. It's not mentioned in the maintenance section, but that's more in line with the Honda manual. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 6:11:49 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP:
That chart doesn't make any sense Oil changes: Monthly or every 8 hours of use AND Every 6 months or 100 Hours of use AND Yearly or 300 hours of use BUT NOT Every 3 months or 50 Hours of use The way it reads, you would never get to the higher/longer intervals because the minimum is monthly or every 8 hours. And why is the 3 month interval not checked if you're doing changes monthly anyway? The Honda manual reads: First month or 20 hours THEN Every 6 months or 100 hours. Honda EU2000i Also the break in period specified in the HF manual is 25 hours, after which it directs changing the oil. It's not mentioned in the maintenance section, but that's more in line with the Honda manual. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 6:11:53 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP:
That chart doesn't make any sense Oil changes: Monthly or every 8 hours of use AND Every 6 months or 100 Hours of use AND Yearly or 300 hours of use BUT NOT Every 3 months or 50 Hours of use The way it reads, you would never get to the higher/longer intervals because the minimum is monthly or every 8 hours. And why is the 3 month interval not checked if you're doing changes monthly anyway? |
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