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Posted: 9/14/2017 11:25:43 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKCory762:
there's a coupon for 2 year free. I got it on the one i got. The lady scanned it out of the little catalog? |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 11:28:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Krauss]
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
Where is that? I didn't see that 
Did i get taken lol ETA: how much exactly is the warranty plan?? |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 11:31:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKCory762:
i don't see it either..... what if the lady scanned the $399 the ad then sold me the $100 plan which she said was free.............
Did i get taken lol ETA: how much exactly is the warranty plan?? |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 11:35:39 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
The extended plan was $99. I am also curious if it is worth getting it at all. I mean I normally don't get extended warranties, but being that this is HF, I wasn't sure. 
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Posted: 9/14/2017 12:22:55 PM EDT
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The extended warranty on the HF Generators is worth it. I have one of the 4KW ones that I use up at the hunt club, the ones that are like $289 on sale. The thing runs great, powers my camper and we run it pretty much 24/7 in the spring/summer/fall, but if it ever fails the only thing you have to do is drain all the oil and gas and take it back, no questions asked.....POOF new genny. Buy another warranty and you're good for another year or two. The one thing that I don't like about the thing is it has GFI outlets for the 120V. It runs everything in my camper fine, but if I plug my CPAP in it's lights out and I have to reset the GFI. It's a pain in the ass when it's raining, but oh well, I can deal with it.
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Posted: 9/14/2017 12:52:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DaveM4P99]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo:
Thanks. You could actually plug the genny into the panel directly, like with a fat cord? Any links? I know you can do anything with the right cash. This sounds like a great business oportunity to me after what has happened.. For "X" dollars you are never SOL. Plug this extension cord onto that, flip that switch, pull this cord, go inside and grab a beer. 
Thanks, great thread considering.  
Parts and install will run around $1k. But if you have electrician friends...maybe only parts will cost ya. Here is mine. 
Not sure you can make a business out of selling or installing them...every electrician and hardware store offers the service. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 12:53:29 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ford302:
See the RV sized plug on the generator on the right. But isn't the RV outlet on the generator a 3 prong and the box you show on the wall is a 4 prong. Are the adaptors commercially available or is there a special cord you made? |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 12:55:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scdigger:
I was wondering how you guys were setting up...just an octopus of cords running around the house? I have an old fuse box, not a breaker box, so there is no real way to backfeed with interlocks, etc. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 12:58:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4P99:
You've really never heard of a transfer switch before? Figured everyone on arfcom had one.
Parts and install will run around $1k. But if you have electrician friends...maybe only parts will cost ya. Just need an inlet, circuit breaker, interlock and wiring. Maybe $200 in parts. Maybe an hour or two in labor if you can't DIY. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 1:07:11 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strikeforces:
Hold my beer, and watch my reply. He idled the truck motor. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 1:20:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By X33Bowtie:
But isn't the RV outlet on the generator a 3 prong and the box you show on the wall is a 4 prong. Are the adaptors commercially available or is there a special cord you made? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By X33Bowtie:
Originally Posted By Ford302:
See the RV sized plug on the generator on the right. Commercial available adapters linked in this post in the recent thread. https://www.ar15.com/forums/outdoors/SAFELY-power-both-legs-with-a-120V-generator-/17-690289/&page=2&anc=bottom#i11812935 That thread is a good read, it discusses hooking up 120VAC to both legs of a home circuit breaker panel. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 1:31:00 PM EDT
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Is there an external inverter available for old school generators? I have a HF 4000 watt peak unit I got as a refurb for $125. Runs great but I'd like to get cleaner power for electronics and stuff.
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Posted: 9/14/2017 1:51:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bones45:
Is there an external inverter available for old school generators? I have a HF 4000 watt peak unit I got as a refurb for $125. Runs great but I'd like to get cleaner power for electronics and stuff. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bones45:
Is there an external inverter available for old school generators? I have a HF 4000 watt peak unit I got as a refurb for $125. Runs great but I'd like to get cleaner power for electronics and stuff. A pure sinewave intverter is going to be several hundred, and you have to feed it DC, so you'd need some way to rectify the AC coming off the generator. By the time you built some Rube Goldberg contraption, you'd be better off buying the second genny. ETA I found this thread discussing this topic. http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/84659/How-to-Build-an-Inverter-Unit-for-a-Gasoline-Generator Key quote here: As you've discovered the inverter is a black box that accepts a variable frequency, variable voltage AC input that varies with engine speed, reverse engineering that will make the AVR project look simple. A major problem is the fact that PMG's are load regulated, not field regulated like your other experiment. That means no AVR is possible, and the generator puts out a variable frequency voltage that varies with speed and the load. To overcome this you need to convert that to DC, then feed it into an inverter that will accept the noisy swinging DC voltage and provide a well regulated AC output. Here's a handy schematic for reference 
ETA 2 Maybe a Power Conditioner or "Online Datacenter UPS? Still pretty spendy. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 2:46:50 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SKWEE-G:
Got the 3500 watt version and used it 24/7 for the past three days as we were without power from hurricane Irma. So quiet and worked awesome. Ran a full sized fridge with freezer, 2 box fans, lamp, 60in plasma, surround sound, PS3, and two strings of led rope lights as well as charging a bunch of electronic devices without a glitch. Was super quiet, could hear all the neighbors generators but ours was barely audible. The only downside is the oil change interval. Seriously, 8 hours? Can anyone else confirm this? Is it a typo. No other generator I've used or seen has such a short oil change interval recommended in the owners manual. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 4:04:17 PM EDT
[#15]
How large of a window unit or portable AC will the 2000 reliably run?
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Posted: 9/14/2017 4:11:47 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By captainpooby:
That's only the first oil change. After that, it's 100 hrs and after that it's 300 hrs. If I had one, I'd run it for a coup,e hours, drain the Dino oil out and put in Mobil 1 and forget about it except to check the level. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 4:19:59 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By superdoc:
How large of a window unit or portable AC will the 2000 reliably run? |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 4:41:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tojan19:
12,000 BTU. Running watts are about 1200. You need the room to cover the starting surge. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tojan19:
Originally Posted By superdoc:
How large of a window unit or portable AC will the 2000 reliably run? The EU2000 puts out 13A continuous and 16.7A surge. You've still got a little overhead. I wouldn't go larger than 15K BTU, but you have to look at the specs of the particular model. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 5:32:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tojan19:
Bad Idea! Small engines need a lot of zinc addative (ZDDP), something that has been removed from typical car engine oils. You can use the mobile 1 but you need to mix in the additive first. STP has it. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 6:06:02 PM EDT
[#20]
I ordered one and the coupon worked, then my business partner tried and the coupon didn't work.
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Posted: 9/14/2017 6:09:38 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andielouroo:
I ordered one and the coupon worked, then my business partner tried and the coupon didn't work.
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Posted: 9/14/2017 6:18:11 PM EDT
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Found another working coupon:
46644956 |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 6:24:14 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andielouroo:
I ordered one and the coupon worked, then my business partner tried and the coupon didn't work.
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Posted: 9/14/2017 6:26:26 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By superdoc:
How large of a window unit or portable AC will the 2000 reliably run? |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 6:42:34 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tojan19:
Bad Idea! Small engines need a lot of zinc addative (ZDDP), something that has been removed from typical car engine oils. You can use the mobile 1 but you need to mix in the additive first. STP has it. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 6:57:28 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By savage1971:
My champion 2k will run my 9500 btu in my camper with no problem and will even run it in eco mode at seal level 
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Posted: 9/14/2017 7:02:37 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By captainpooby:
That's only the first oil change. After that, it's 100 hrs and after that it's 300 hrs. If I had one, I'd run it for a coup,e hours, drain the Dino oil out and put in Mobil 1 and forget about it except to check the level. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 8:01:54 PM EDT
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I just called Harbor freight and this generator is back ordered with no known instock date...maybe need to check local stores? Does anyone know if the $100 coupon works at local stores?
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Posted: 9/14/2017 8:08:16 PM EDT
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If I didn't already have a Generac 2000i, I'd get that. I use it for just running my freezers overnight. Saves from having to use my louder bigger one, when needed.
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Posted: 9/14/2017 8:13:16 PM EDT
[#30]
This looks pretty nice. $849, dual fuel capable, parallel capable, 3100 peak, 2800 running watts, 58db, 8 hours on 1.6 gal, 19 hours 20lb 25% load.
https://www.costco.com/Champion-DUAL-FUEL-2800wt-Running--3100wt-Peak-Digital-Inverter-Generator%2c-Electric-Start%2c-RV-Ready%2c-Parallel-Capable%2c-CARB-%2526-EPA-Certified%2c-Low-Decibels.product.100284958.html |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 8:21:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crownvic96:
This looks pretty nice. $849, dual fuel capable, parallel capable, 3100 peak, 2800 running watts, 58db, 8 hours on 1.6 gal, 19 hours 20lb 25% load. https://www.costco.com/Champion-DUAL-FUEL-2800wt-Running--3100wt-Peak-Digital-Inverter-Generator%2c-Electric-Start%2c-RV-Ready%2c-Parallel-Capable%2c-CARB-%2526-EPA-Certified%2c-Low-Decibels.product.100284958.html |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 8:25:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampvol:
I do like the propane option for sure. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampvol:
Originally Posted By crownvic96:
This looks pretty nice. $849, dual fuel capable, parallel capable, 3100 peak, 2800 running watts, 58db, 8 hours on 1.6 gal, 19 hours 20lb 25% load. https://www.costco.com/Champion-DUAL-FUEL-2800wt-Running--3100wt-Peak-Digital-Inverter-Generator%2c-Electric-Start%2c-RV-Ready%2c-Parallel-Capable%2c-CARB-%2526-EPA-Certified%2c-Low-Decibels.product.100284958.html |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 8:28:11 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drmgallen:
But it weights a 100lbs... Take the good with the bad, I guess. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 8:37:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pdave]
[#34]
My order went through online, but it shows back ordered now. I wonder if it will actually ship.
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Posted: 9/14/2017 9:12:37 PM EDT
[#35]
If you put too much load on one of these generators, my guess is that it will trip offline. Will any damage be done?
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Posted: 9/14/2017 9:16:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zippy_The_Wonderdog:
If you put too much load on one of these generators, my guess is that it will trip offline. Will any damage be done? |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 9:37:47 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zoe17:
Not if the over current on generator is working. It seems to me that the best option is to buy two 2kw peak load generators and run them in parallel. Run just one when you need it for efficiency. Run both when you need more load. Run one if the other breaks down. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 9:46:55 PM EDT
[#38]
How long is the 2000 or 3500 rated for Hours per gallon?
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Posted: 9/14/2017 9:47:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zippy_The_Wonderdog:
Thanks. It seems to me that the best option is to buy two 2kw peak load generators and run them in parallel. Run just one when you need it for efficiency. Run both when you need more load. Run one if the other breaks down. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 9:53:02 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
Yeah that's my thinking as well after reading through all of this. Now to decide on the Predator or the Champion. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 9:56:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Admiral_Crunch]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampvol:
Yeah, I saw that. Take the good with the bad, I guess. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampvol:
Originally Posted By drmgallen:
But it weights a 100lbs... Take the good with the bad, I guess. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 10:41:35 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pdave:
My order went through online, but it shows back ordered now. I wonder if it will actually ship. .
I wonder if / when shipments may have started diverting south! Have they actually been out of stock for a couple weeks now? 
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Posted: 9/14/2017 10:44:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: slack_out]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pdave:
My order went through online, but it shows back ordered now. I wonder if it will actually ship. eta located in FL |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 11:16:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thunder_Stick:
How long is the 2000 or 3500 rated for Hours per gallon? The 2000 is 6.5 hours at half load, with a 1 gallon tank. The 3500 is 11 hours at 25% load, with a 2.6 gallon tank. Probably about 1/2 gallon an hour at full load for the 2000. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 11:25:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slack_out:
I purchased mine yesterday thanks to the OP's discount code. When I go to the main HF website, I''m not seeing any mention of being back ordered. The main website has a "Track Your Oder" link. If you type in your order number and your zip code, it gives you an order status. Mine has been showing "Shipment #xxxxxx" since yesterday. I'm thinking that refers to a future shipment when HF expects to receive it. Hopefully I'll get an email soon notifying that its shipped to me. eta located in FL |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 11:33:16 PM EDT
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As far as fuel cans, what are you guys using?
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Posted: 9/14/2017 11:40:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
As far as fuel cans, what are you guys using? Extended run time, boat tanks. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 11:49:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Undefined:
The 3500 one looks good. Would look better under $500. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 12:31:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ_Sky:
From the videos that I'm seeing on youtube, the HF Predator 3500 is quieter than the Honda 2000. Here's one:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIQt4krPAgA |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 12:32:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FL_Roscoe:
I bought one last week and have it running right now next to the house. You can hear it running with the windows open but it's not obscene like my bigger generator. With the windows closed you wouldn't notice it. We're going on day 3 without power after Irma and it's been great. I have it plugged into a UPS with a TV/Fan/Fridge on the battery/surge outlets and a 12,000 BTU AC unit on a surge only outlet and the UPS only kicks in when the AC compressor starts up. There's a coupon that brings the price down to $399. Coupon This makes me feel bad...
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