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Link Posted: 11/15/2022 10:00:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RegularJoe58:


@wesr228

Thanks for sharing this. I’m going a similar route as I’ve yet to find a solution that works to shut off the main breaker in my board and allow power in from my generator.

Regardless, the ability to get power in the house without running cords through doors/windows cuts out about 90% of the frustration of my house running on a generator.

Question: what adapter are using to go from that small generator to the 30amp plug/cord into the house?

My little one doesn’t have a big plug on it and I bet yours doesn’t either. My larger 3500 does and I’ve bought the correct stuff for it but small outages, especially in winter, can be handled with my smaller generator. Plus, I like redundancy.

Thanks for your help
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@RegularJoe58

Amazon has a wide assortment of adapters. I purchased an adapter to go from the 15/20A plug on my 2000W inverter to the 50A generator cord.

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Link Posted: 11/15/2022 10:13:38 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Banditman:


Run it through the attic or basement if you have one
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Originally Posted By laxman09:


See diagram below.

Blue: main floor window
Yellow: Fence
Red: Main panel in basement

East side of the house would be ideal for me (not my neighbor, oh well) as it's already level. But it's furthest from panel. West wall is down slope and I'll need to dig out a platform area. Back patio could work, especially once the hot tub gets removed.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/450791/Screenshot_20221031-140107_png-2582988.JPG


Run it through the attic or basement if you have one
This. I just did the job this weekend. It took me about 3 hours all in, including re-working my panel to get the breakers in the right spots for the interlock switch-plate. Going through the attic saved me about 40 feet of cable, and at $6/foot that adds up fast.

I put it on the backside of the house so that I can put the generator under the roof of the grilling area.

Now I need to finish removing all that long-dead co-ax.

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Link Posted: 11/15/2022 10:21:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kanati:
This. I just did the job this weekend. It took me about 3 hours all in, including re-working my panel to get the breakers in the right spots for the interlock switch-plate. Going through the attic saved me about 40 feet of cable, and at $6/foot that adds up fast.

I put it on the backside of the house so that I can put the generator under the roof of the grilling area.

Now I need to finish removing all that long-dead co-ax.

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I have a hot tub in my back patio Im getting rid of, and they are going to use the breaker box and its existing 50A wire for my generator hook up/intlet box. Saving me a bunch of $$.

Now I just need a ~40 ft cord to run from the generator to the inlet so I can put it on the other side of my patio fence on a paver pad I set up.
Link Posted: 11/15/2022 12:41:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RegularJoe58:


@wesr228

Thanks for sharing this. I’m going a similar route as I’ve yet to find a solution that works to shut off the main breaker in my board and allow power in from my generator.

Regardless, the ability to get power in the house without running cords through doors/windows cuts out about 90% of the frustration of my house running on a generator.

Question: what adapter are using to go from that small generator to the 30amp plug/cord into the house?

My little one doesn’t have a big plug on it and I bet yours doesn’t either. My larger 3500 does and I’ve bought the correct stuff for it but small outages, especially in winter, can be handled with my smaller generator. Plus, I like redundancy.

Thanks for your help
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Originally Posted By RegularJoe58:
Originally Posted By wesr228:
I previously wrote of my experience with using a Generlink to power my house, including heat pump for the A/C (through use of a soft-start). https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Finally-Upgraded-My-Generator-Setup-To-Something-I-m-Happy-With/5-2556196/?page=1.

I absolutely needed 240v for the well pump, because I need water. However, this site and others like it, got me thinking about redundancy and also fuel efficiency. So, back in October I jumped into the small budget inverter game with a Westinghouse IGen2200 on sale for $350. I was told by Generlink that I could not use it with 120v only, that I had to use 240v. Not sure how true that is, I'm not an electrician. Anyways, now I had a second means of power, but other than extension cords, there was no way to distribute the new power source.

First things first, the Reliance Controls, Through the Wall Kit.

www.amazon.com/dp/B0743BQDT4

It has a standard L14-30P for the power inlet. I already had a L14-30 cord, so I picked up a 20amp adapter that also bridged both legs so that inside the house, all 6 outlets are hot. At this point I still had to run extension cords, but at least not through a window or door.

Still though, I wanted something better, so I found out Reliance Controls also farms out a 4 circuit, 120v Transfer Switches to Goal Zero, Renogy, and Nature's Generators. It comes with a 120v power inlet. Which while limiting for many applications, is also very unique and fit my needs perfectly.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/413139/81djV1tSdaL__AC_SL1500__jpg-2588394.JPG

So.... now, I can plug the new inverter in via the Through the Wall Kit, directly to the 4 circuit transfer switch. As a bonus, I have an Ecoflow River Pro 720 Wh Power Station, that I can also instantly pug into the transfer switch and BOOM! lights to the bedroom, bathroom, living room. Figured a couple hours with the fridge if needed also. Through in a UPS for the Wifi outlet and I shouldn't even lose internet connectivity if I'm home (big deal if working from home). Anyway, just wanted to continue to share my adventure and maybe give some people ideas.

I'll still need to run the big gen for well water or central A/C, but it's nice having redundancy. I believe I have a place for both generators, and now there's that extra piece of mind that secondary and tertiary systems can provide. of course there are always ways to improve systems, like adding propane, and that will come, but for now, I believe I'm in a good space from where I was just a year ago.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/413139/IMG_5961_jpg-2588526.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/413139/IMG_5960_jpg-2588527.JPG

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@wesr228

Thanks for sharing this. I’m going a similar route as I’ve yet to find a solution that works to shut off the main breaker in my board and allow power in from my generator.

Regardless, the ability to get power in the house without running cords through doors/windows cuts out about 90% of the frustration of my house running on a generator.

Question: what adapter are using to go from that small generator to the 30amp plug/cord into the house?

My little one doesn’t have a big plug on it and I bet yours doesn’t either. My larger 3500 does and I’ve bought the correct stuff for it but small outages, especially in winter, can be handled with my smaller generator. Plus, I like redundancy.

Thanks for your help

he may be referring to this:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074PWJVWC?tag=arfcom00-20

which is what I have.

it says 15A due to the 3-prong setup but the company states the internals are sized to handle 20A
Link Posted: 11/15/2022 12:43:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PKT1106:


@RegularJoe58

Amazon has a wide assortment of adapters. I purchased an adapter to go from the 15/20A plug on my 2000W inverter to the 50A generator cord.

www.amazon.com/dp/B08RBL5YHS
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@PKT1106

I figured it was out there somewhere but didn’t have the search terms right.

Thank you!
Link Posted: 11/15/2022 12:52:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By danpass:

he may be referring to this:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074PWJVWC?tag=arfcom00-20

which is what I have.

it says 15A due to the 3-prong setup but the company states the internals are sized to handle 20A
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Originally Posted By danpass:
Originally Posted By RegularJoe58:
Originally Posted By wesr228:
I previously wrote of my experience with using a Generlink to power my house, including heat pump for the A/C (through use of a soft-start). https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Finally-Upgraded-My-Generator-Setup-To-Something-I-m-Happy-With/5-2556196/?page=1.

I absolutely needed 240v for the well pump, because I need water. However, this site and others like it, got me thinking about redundancy and also fuel efficiency. So, back in October I jumped into the small budget inverter game with a Westinghouse IGen2200 on sale for $350. I was told by Generlink that I could not use it with 120v only, that I had to use 240v. Not sure how true that is, I'm not an electrician. Anyways, now I had a second means of power, but other than extension cords, there was no way to distribute the new power source.

First things first, the Reliance Controls, Through the Wall Kit.

www.amazon.com/dp/B0743BQDT4

It has a standard L14-30P for the power inlet. I already had a L14-30 cord, so I picked up a 20amp adapter that also bridged both legs so that inside the house, all 6 outlets are hot. At this point I still had to run extension cords, but at least not through a window or door.

Still though, I wanted something better, so I found out Reliance Controls also farms out a 4 circuit, 120v Transfer Switches to Goal Zero, Renogy, and Nature's Generators. It comes with a 120v power inlet. Which while limiting for many applications, is also very unique and fit my needs perfectly.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/413139/81djV1tSdaL__AC_SL1500__jpg-2588394.JPG

So.... now, I can plug the new inverter in via the Through the Wall Kit, directly to the 4 circuit transfer switch. As a bonus, I have an Ecoflow River Pro 720 Wh Power Station, that I can also instantly pug into the transfer switch and BOOM! lights to the bedroom, bathroom, living room. Figured a couple hours with the fridge if needed also. Through in a UPS for the Wifi outlet and I shouldn't even lose internet connectivity if I'm home (big deal if working from home). Anyway, just wanted to continue to share my adventure and maybe give some people ideas.

I'll still need to run the big gen for well water or central A/C, but it's nice having redundancy. I believe I have a place for both generators, and now there's that extra piece of mind that secondary and tertiary systems can provide. of course there are always ways to improve systems, like adding propane, and that will come, but for now, I believe I'm in a good space from where I was just a year ago.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/413139/IMG_5961_jpg-2588526.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/413139/IMG_5960_jpg-2588527.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/413139/IMG_5959_jpg-2588529.JPG


@wesr228

Thanks for sharing this. I'm going a similar route as I've yet to find a solution that works to shut off the main breaker in my board and allow power in from my generator.

Regardless, the ability to get power in the house without running cords through doors/windows cuts out about 90% of the frustration of my house running on a generator.

Question: what adapter are using to go from that small generator to the 30amp plug/cord into the house?

My little one doesn't have a big plug on it and I bet yours doesn't either. My larger 3500 does and I've bought the correct stuff for it but small outages, especially in winter, can be handled with my smaller generator. Plus, I like redundancy.

Thanks for your help

he may be referring to this:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074PWJVWC?tag=arfcom00-20

which is what I have.

it says 15A due to the 3-prong setup but the company states the internals are sized to handle 20A
The 14-50R to 5-15P adapter I got looks pretty silly.
Link Posted: 11/15/2022 1:07:47 PM EST
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@RegularJoe58

I have a 20 amp to 30 amp adapter, as the little Champion has a 15/20 Amp receptacle.

Amazon Product
  • Power Adapter Cord 5-20P to L14-30P 125Volt / 2500W
  • Generator Regular 3-prong 20 AMP 5-20P male
  • Generator Twist Lock 4-prong 30 AMP L14-30R female (Two hots bridged)



If you only have a 15 amp outlet (standard household outlet), then something like this would work:

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Link Posted: 11/15/2022 1:09:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PKT1106:


@RegularJoe58

Amazon has a wide assortment of adapters. I purchased an adapter to go from the 15/20A plug on my 2000W inverter to the 50A generator cord.

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Yep! He'll need a 30amp instead of 50, but there are lots of options!
Link Posted: 11/15/2022 8:08:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PCB66:
My experience with the WEN 2250 W generator.

In hurricane Ian the power went off about 10:00 PM.

The next morning early I started the generator with a full tank of gas. This was the first time I used it in the two years since I bought it except for break in and running for half hour or so every three or four months.  I used non ethanol gas.  While in storage I drained the gas out of the tank and carburetor. Started up on the first pull.

During that day I ran my refrigerator, fan, 32 inch flat screen TV and a couple of other minor things like cell phone and I-pad recharging.  When it got dark we had a 60W Led light.  We turned if off about 10:00 PM that night.  The next morning I started it up again and ran until the power came on about 4:00PM.

During that time it was in the ECON mode.

When I turned it off it had about 1/4th of a tank of gas left.  That is pretty good fuel usage.

For a generator it was relatively quiet.  We could just barely hear it outside with the windows and doors closed.

It used a little bit of oil and the oil looked dirty enough that I changed it out before putting it away.

I was pleased with it performance.
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I have that same inverter model. I haven't had a chance to really use it, except for a minor power outage during the summer. I had it paralleled with a Pulsar inverter of similar wattage. It seems to work well. Pro-tip, replace the Torch spark plug with an NGK part.
Link Posted: 11/15/2022 8:14:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SR712:
Has anyone any experience with connecting a Honda EU200i and a WEN together? After looking at the schematics, something I didn't know, was that those wire connections for two gennys actually pass 120VAC. I figured it was maybe a 5VDC pulse, but no, it's actually 120V. It makes me less likely to "experiment." LOL.
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They have to pass 120 VAC. That's how they load-share when running together.

You can run different brand inverters together in parallel. I have four inverters. I run a Wen 2250 watt and a Pulsar 2300 watt together. I have a Wen 4000 watt and a Champion 4250 watt I run together. Just make sure you connect them before you start either. After Ida, we lost power for several days. The two 4k watt inverters together could run a lot of stuff. I'd shut down one of them at night to conserve fuel. We only needed one inverter to run the window a/c units and the fridges. We were very comfortable.  

There are You Tube videos of people running Honda inverters with other brand inverters. The only caveat is to run it with an inverter of a similar wattage output.
Link Posted: 11/15/2022 9:13:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kanati:
This. I just did the job this weekend. It took me about 3 hours all in, including re-working my panel to get the breakers in the right spots for the interlock switch-plate. Going through the attic saved me about 40 feet of cable, and at $6/foot that adds up fast.

I put it on the backside of the house so that I can put the generator under the roof of the grilling area.

Now I need to finish removing all that long-dead co-ax.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/265591/7afe736de657451e897af1f8cbc48cc1_jpeg-2600757.JPG
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Turned out looking great!!

One less thing to worry about. I’d say it was three hours very well spent.
Link Posted: 11/17/2022 6:58:33 AM EST
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Champion 2000W Dual Fuel Inverter for $526 as of this post. Got one for $488 in October. Pulled it out yesterday to run for a minute and it started right up on Propane. Put the hammer drill in it for some load and it did fine.

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Link Posted: 11/17/2022 10:11:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TheLASwamp:


They have to pass 120 VAC. That's how they load-share when running together.

You can run different brand inverters together in parallel. I have four inverters. I run a Wen 2250 watt and a Pulsar 2300 watt together. I have a Wen 4000 watt and a Champion 4250 watt I run together. Just make sure you connect them before you start either. After Ida, we lost power for several days. The two 4k watt inverters together could run a lot of stuff. I'd shut down one of them at night to conserve fuel. We only needed one inverter to run the window a/c units and the fridges. We were very comfortable.  

There are You Tube videos of people running Honda inverters with other brand inverters. The only caveat is to run it with an inverter of a similar wattage output.
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Originally Posted By TheLASwamp:
Originally Posted By SR712:
Has anyone any experience with connecting a Honda EU200i and a WEN together? After looking at the schematics, something I didn't know, was that those wire connections for two gennys actually pass 120VAC. I figured it was maybe a 5VDC pulse, but no, it's actually 120V. It makes me less likely to "experiment." LOL.


They have to pass 120 VAC. That's how they load-share when running together.

You can run different brand inverters together in parallel. I have four inverters. I run a Wen 2250 watt and a Pulsar 2300 watt together. I have a Wen 4000 watt and a Champion 4250 watt I run together. Just make sure you connect them before you start either. After Ida, we lost power for several days. The two 4k watt inverters together could run a lot of stuff. I'd shut down one of them at night to conserve fuel. We only needed one inverter to run the window a/c units and the fridges. We were very comfortable.  

There are You Tube videos of people running Honda inverters with other brand inverters. The only caveat is to run it with an inverter of a similar wattage output.


Ditto on this reply.

I run a 3500W Predator with a 2Kw AiPower Dual Fuel and they work fine together.  I have the Predator running on natgas, and the 2K on propane.  I can shut down the 2K overnight, but it doesn't use much fuel then, so I don't bother.
Link Posted: 11/17/2022 10:40:41 AM EST
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Inlet and manual interlock installed!

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Link Posted: 11/17/2022 1:29:06 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/17/2022 1:32:48 PM EST
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Is that legal to be so low to the ground?
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I hope?
Link Posted: 11/18/2022 10:02:22 AM EST
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Looking to pick up a generator running cover and trying to decide which of these two would be best

1.
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Any experience with either? Not looking to build a shed or anything right now.
Link Posted: 11/18/2022 11:15:16 AM EST
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If I had to have one of those covers, I'd probably choose #1 over #2 because I'm not sure #2 could withstand the heat even though Champion appears to make it.  How about a small 6x6 popup canopy "tent" over the generator?
Link Posted: 11/18/2022 11:24:10 AM EST
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If I had to have one of those covers, I'd probably choose #1 over #2 because I'm not sure #2 could withstand the heat even though Champion appears to make it.  How about a small 6x6 popup canopy "tent" over the generator?
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We get some pretty strong winds here and I'm not sure a canopy would really provide much protection.

I am more of a fan of #1 myself as it looks a little more robust.
Link Posted: 11/18/2022 11:27:54 AM EST
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I'd go with #1.

Next, find a couple of pieces of scrap plywood, or rip a sheet in half and make a 90 degree angled screen that you can place in between your home and the generator. It doesn't need to be big, maybe a foot longer and a foot taller than the generator.

It will cut 75% of the perceived noise down inside your home, just by deflecting it toward whatever neighbor you don't like.
Link Posted: 11/18/2022 11:52:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kanati:
I'd go with #1.

Next, find a couple of pieces of scrap plywood, or rip a sheet in half and make a 90 degree angled screen that you can place in between your home and the generator. It doesn't need to be big, maybe a foot longer and a foot taller than the generator.

It will cut 75% of the perceived noise down inside your home, just by deflecting it toward whatever neighbor you don't like.
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That's actually a great idea. Thank you!

** The screen, I actually like my neighbors
Link Posted: 11/18/2022 11:59:28 AM EST
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That's actually a great idea. Thank you!

** The screen, I actually like my neighbors
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Originally Posted By Kanati:
I'd go with #1.

Next, find a couple of pieces of scrap plywood, or rip a sheet in half and make a 90 degree angled screen that you can place in between your home and the generator. It doesn't need to be big, maybe a foot longer and a foot taller than the generator.

It will cut 75% of the perceived noise down inside your home, just by deflecting it toward whatever neighbor you don't like.


That's actually a great idea. Thank you!

** The screen, I actually like my neighbors

Me too, so i got a big used shipping crate from the warehouse guys and I'm making a generator box.

But I started with just a screen.
Link Posted: 11/18/2022 12:34:00 PM EST
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Me too, so i got a big used shipping crate from the warehouse guys and I'm making a generator box.
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
Originally Posted By Kanati:
I'd go with #1.

Next, find a couple of pieces of scrap plywood, or rip a sheet in half and make a 90 degree angled screen that you can place in between your home and the generator. It doesn't need to be big, maybe a foot longer and a foot taller than the generator.

It will cut 75% of the perceived noise down inside your home, just by deflecting it toward whatever neighbor you don't like.


That's actually a great idea. Thank you!

** The screen, I actually like my neighbors

Me too, so i got a big used shipping crate from the warehouse guys and I'm making a generator box.
Post pics of your build, bro.
Link Posted: 11/18/2022 5:09:46 PM EST
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How about something like this instead of those two generator covers?  I use something like this, maybe a bit smaller than this one.   My friend uses one and has an opening for an intake and an opening with exhaust fan for the exhaust.   Gets warm but not too warm.   I just leave the top up and the doors open and if it is snowing/raining, lower the top.

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Link Posted: 11/18/2022 5:41:53 PM EST
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How about something like this instead of those two generator covers?  I use something like this, maybe a bit smaller than this one.   My friend uses one and has an opening for an intake and an opening with exhaust fan for the exhaust.   Gets warm but not too warm.   I just leave the top up and the doors open and if it is snowing/raining, lower the top.

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I thought about it, but I don't have a good place for one right now.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 6:23:36 PM EST
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These are good deals!! Especially that Wen.

Pretty sure both are mentioned throughout this thread, and not in a negative way.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 6:37:13 PM EST
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Picked up this like new Honda for $700 otd from a pawn shop.

Preban with no CO bullshit.
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 10:36:48 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/3/2022 2:56:52 AM EST
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The two Menards around us have a ton of these WEN generators leftover from black friday still priced at  $329.99 until the 4th, I keep going back and forth on getting one or even two.

https://www.menards.com/main/black-friday-2022/wen-reg-3-500-running-4-000-starting-watt-open-frame-inverter-generator/gn400im/p-1642874263352160-c-13917.htm?tid=-1659687175357073255&ipos=4
Link Posted: 12/3/2022 2:13:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SageEBR:
The two Menards around us have a ton of these WEN generators leftover from black friday still priced at  $329.99 until the 4th, I keep going back and forth on getting one or even two.

https://www.menards.com/main/black-friday-2022/wen-reg-3-500-running-4-000-starting-watt-open-frame-inverter-generator/gn400im/p-1642874263352160-c-13917.htm?tid=-1659687175357073255&ipos=4
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Wen GN400i, a very nice "just right"-sized unit. Nice bang for the buck. I bought one in August from Amazon. I like it a lot, and $330 is a very good price for it.

If one does buy it, I'd recommend (after breaking it in with the oil that it comes with) running it using synthetic 5W-30 oil (Walmart's Super Tech and Costco's Kirkland brands are a good, inexpensive way to go), getting the WEN magnetic dipstick for it (link ), and replacing the Chinese Torch F6RTC spark plug that comes with the unit with an NGK BPR6ES plug (link ).

Oh, one more thing about the GN400i. Read the Operator's Manual VERY closely. Someone who works for that company has a great sense of humor...
Link Posted: 12/3/2022 5:54:27 PM EST
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Oh, one more thing about the GN400i. Read the Operator's Manual VERY closely. Someone who works for that company has a great sense of humor...
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Chinglish gone good?

Link Posted: 12/3/2022 9:28:09 PM EST
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Chinglish gone good?

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Oh, one more thing about the GN400i. Read the Operator's Manual VERY closely. Someone who works for that company has a great sense of humor...

Chinglish gone good?

Here's a couple...

"UNPACKING & PACKING LIST"With the help of a friend or trustworthy foe, carefully remove the generator from the packaging and place it on a sturdy, flat surface. Make sure to take out all contents and accessories. Do not discard the packaging until everything is removed. Check the packing list on page 9 to make sure you have all of the parts and accessories. If any part is missing or broken, please contact customer service at 1-800-232-1195 (M-F 8-5 CST), or email [email protected]"

And then there's this in the "Troubleshooting" table in the back on the manual:

TROUBLESHOOTING
PROBLEM:POSSIBLE CAUSE:SOLUTION :
Engine will not start. Ghost in the generator. Persuade ghost to leave.


Link Posted: 12/6/2022 11:11:02 PM EST
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This Could Keep Your Family Warm During An Emergency Power Outage.
Link Posted: 12/7/2022 1:56:49 AM EST
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Taggin' in. This is of great interest to me.
I, like many others, associate HF with cheap, short term "get by" tools. If this thing lasts more than a season I may have to go out and grab one.

*Does the occasional 20% OFF coupon work on these???
Link Posted: 12/7/2022 2:02:48 AM EST
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Three months... 96 pages... and this thread is still humming along...
Link Posted: 12/7/2022 7:50:09 AM EST
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Try five years.  This thread has been going on for five years.  

And while I think the Habor Freight gen is ok, if you read this thread, there are better options.

Link Posted: 12/7/2022 8:12:32 AM EST
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Great video.
Link Posted: 12/7/2022 3:02:50 PM EST
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Try five years.  This thread has been going on for five years.  

And while I think the Habor Freight gen is ok, if you read this thread, there are better options.

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I got my 2000W Predator because of this thread about 4 years ago?

I did the magnetic dipstick, NGK plug, good oil, etc.
Run it for an hour under full load every month.
It might take 2 or 3 pulls to start when it's good and cold out.
The thing just plain works!
I use it for days on end during the summer months.
Can't beat em!
Link Posted: 12/7/2022 4:03:53 PM EST
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Whats typical the current draw for a gas furnace?  Blower, glow plugs etc booster fan (might be the wrong terminology) seems like it might be more than a 2kw can handle?
Link Posted: 12/7/2022 5:37:56 PM EST
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Whats typical the current draw for a gas furnace?  Blower, glow plugs etc booster fan (might be the wrong terminology) seems like it might be more than a 2kw can handle?
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My Champion 2000 Dual Fuel Inverter ran a gas furnace and a wireless router/modem on propane and didn't break a sweat.
Link Posted: 12/7/2022 6:23:21 PM EST
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Gas furnace typically between 6 and 12 amps. Highest draw probably at ignition. Put a Kill-A-Watt meter on one and find out what yours draws.
Link Posted: 12/7/2022 7:33:42 PM EST
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Whats typical the current draw for a gas furnace?  Blower, glow plugs etc booster fan (might be the wrong terminology) seems like it might be more than a 2kw can handle?
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Mine is 600w running and 1600w at start up.
Link Posted: 12/8/2022 4:07:51 AM EST
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I saw that yesterday on the Costco email flyer and was curious if anyone has experience with it.  I looked at a couple of reviews on Youtube and they seem positive.  

It seems like an almost perfect size for a whole house backup as long as you don't need to run a central AC or heat pump.

Link Posted: 12/8/2022 11:00:02 AM EST
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Anyone know if this would cause an issue in a home inspection when selling?
Link Posted: 12/8/2022 11:11:38 AM EST
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Maybe. Depends if the furnace manual says it can be on a plug or has to be direct-wired. Not sure about building codes, but it might also be a regional rule where you are in your county or district.
Link Posted: 12/9/2022 8:45:19 PM EST
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Here, furnaces are installed like that with a pigtail to an outlet. Also, I think back in NY furnaces were pigtailed, also.
Link Posted: 12/9/2022 8:52:05 PM EST
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Here, furnaces are installed like that with a pigtail to an outlet. Also, I think back in NY furnaces were pigtailed, also.
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I have the parts in hand to do it, but I’m leaning toward buying  one of the reliance controls 6 breaker transfer switches. I have two furnace units and it would be a pain to run a cord to the attic for the upstairs unit.

I figure a 6 breaker transfer switch would let me do both furnace units, inside and garage refrigerator, outlets with TV / internet and one other, maybe some upstairs lights?
I have a champion 2500 dual fuel so I’d have to manage what is on at a given time.
Link Posted: 12/14/2022 1:33:34 PM EST
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I ordered a Kill A Watt and it came in yesterday. Read the instructions, watched some videos, etc. Now, what's the best way to use this to size a generator? I have it on a refrigerator and am going to leave it there for a week to see what it draws, but how do I use that information in consideration of generator sizing? Thanks
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