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Posted: 9/14/2024 4:10:03 PM EDT
The criteria are simple: (1) more precise than base models, (2) 16.1" barrel, and (3) preferably <5lbs, but definitely <6lbs.

What would you recommend?

The closest one I have so far is the model 21133.  It is 5.3lbs, but I think I like the idea of a takedown model.  Not sure to what extent taking it down affects accuracy, so I would appreciate any thoughts on that.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 4:21:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FZJ80] [#1]
Kidd, just spec out a complete rifle.Kidd 10/22
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 4:24:42 PM EDT
[#2]
i don't know about being more precise....but i just built one out with a Faxon pencil profile barrel (that had to be thermal fit) and the BX trigger in the Magpul MOE X-22 stock with a 1X Primary Arms prism scope....based on previous experience I would consider it to be more accurate than an off the shelf 10/22 and still really lightweight
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 4:25:24 PM EDT
[#3]
Precision and take-down, while not necessarily mutually exclusive, will be a challenge.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 4:25:49 PM EDT
[#4]
Thank you.  I did not specify a budget on purpose, but after looking at the Kidd prices, I think I'd have a hard time justifying >$1k to myself.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 4:29:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: molar] [#5]
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I bought one a few months ago and am very pleased with the accuracy. I’ve had multiple 5 shot groups in the 0.3” range @50 with Norma match, SK rifle match, and Lapua LR.  It’ll average less than 0.5” @ 50 with the above ammo. CCI Std and Tac 22 are more like 0.6-0.7”.

I shot a 10 round group suppressed at 100 this morning with Lapua LR. 9 went into 0.9” and one flyer opened it up to 1.4”. Definitely an ammo issue as the round went supersonic.

For $350, I'm happy!

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Norma match @ 50

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Sk rifle match @ 50

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Link Posted: 9/14/2024 4:31:50 PM EDT
[#6]
Volquartsen trigger, Kidd barrel, magpul stock. Hux .22ti can. Had it out squirrel hunting this morning. Probably a lot heavier than what you want.
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Link Posted: 9/14/2024 4:32:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By abnk:
Thank you.  I did not specify a budget on purpose, but after looking at the Kidd prices, I think I'd have a hard time justifying >$1k to myself.
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Its easy to do if building one.

I wanted lighter weight and precision.
TacSol receiver $550
Volquartzen CF barrel $250
Kidd single stage trigger w/ext mag release $325
KRG chassis $375


More spend than I'd anticipated, but its light enough and it shoots bugholes.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 4:38:51 PM EDT
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Check out Bergara BXR, they come in steel or carbon barreled versions. I have not shot one personally, but I have handled a few and they are very nice. They fix everything I like to change on a 10/22 (like the stock and barrel), without being ridiculously expensive.

If I had to buy instead of building, I would consider one. But personally, I like building so I tend to go that route.  Most of my 10/22s have started as basic carbine models. I do have one built on a Brownells receiver and bolt. It shoots very well.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 4:46:52 PM EDT
[#9]
Cz provarmint. 16.5 barrel. suppressor ready. you can find them for $650.00

Link Posted: 9/14/2024 4:47:58 PM EDT
[#10]


Ruger bought in a pawnshop, $92
Brimstone tier two trigger workup. $79
Feddersen 16.5 threaded, fluted bull barrel. $170
Raptor stock $75 ebay
Unertl Hawk 4x scope ebay $85
Kidd mag release  $18.50
CPC bolt squaring, extrtor pinning and jeweling $50

Total cost $569.50

That was my price for all the parts some new some used.  I put this together 5 years ago, prices have changed thanks bidenomics.
Rimfire central always has stocks on the cheap.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 4:58:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/14/2024 5:38:57 PM EDT
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He doesn’t want to spend money on a Kidd, so JP’s likely out of the question too. Besides, a Kidd super grade will outshoot it all day.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 5:46:02 PM EDT
[#13]
Model 11113 Talo tactical since it had a threaded barrel. Took the action out or the silly ATI stock and put it in a standard Hogue overmolded unit. Put on a Sniper Brand 4-16x50 scope. Yeah I know the scope is overkill but who gives a shit, I can see tacks at ridiculous distances.
Added a Kidd trigger kit too.

All in about $600 ish. around 6 years ago. Traded for the rifle $300 cost of my side of the trade. Got $85 for the ATI stock=cost of the Hogue OM. Scope was $100 nib at a gun show. Kidd trigger was $120 iirc. Bought everything within a month or so, it all just came together once I decided I wanted a 10/22 again back then.

It really likes CCI of any flavor,  Remington Yellow Jacket, Aguilar. It's not very picky about ammo, which I appreciate.

Targets are usually Necco wafers at 50 yards, and Nilla wafers at 75 yards. A suppressor is coming before too long.

It's one of my favorite guns to shoot. I call it "the grin reaper"

Get creative, take your time, and shop around. I got exactly what I wanted without spending boutique gun money,
Link Posted: 9/15/2024 5:12:19 PM EDT
[#14]
Thank you, gentlemen.  Great information for me to consider.
Link Posted: 9/15/2024 5:33:36 PM EDT
[#15]
Originally Posted By abnk:
The criteria are simple: (1) more precise than base models, (2) 16.1" barrel, and (3) preferably <5lbs, but definitely <6lbs.

What would you recommend?

The closest one I have so far is the model 21133.  It is 5.3lbs, but I think I like the idea of a takedown model.  Not sure to what extent taking it down affects accuracy, so I would appreciate any thoughts on that.
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Under 5 lbs, but it will cost ya.

Link Posted: 9/15/2024 6:21:52 PM EDT
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Archangel stock
TacSol receiver, bolt, & barrel
Volquartzen trigger
Link Posted: 9/15/2024 6:23:41 PM EDT
[#17]
precise and take down do not compute
Link Posted: 9/15/2024 6:23:58 PM EDT
[#18]
Magnum Research

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Link Posted: 9/15/2024 6:33:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/15/2024 6:37:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ruffhowzer:
Cz provarmint. 16.5 barrel. suppressor ready. you can find them for $650.00
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OP asks for what is a semi and you post a bolt action.
Link Posted: 9/15/2024 6:44:13 PM EDT
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I have two 10/22’s.  If I was in the market for a new rimfire rifle, I would look at the Winchester Wildcat.  Takes 10/22 mags.  Seems well liked.
Link Posted: 9/15/2024 6:57:27 PM EDT
[#22]
Brownells makes a clone that's pretty nice.
Link Posted: 9/15/2024 6:58:35 PM EDT
[#23]
Find a TC22

Link Posted: 9/15/2024 7:04:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MJ11B4P:
Check out Bergara BXR, they come in steel or carbon barreled versions. I have not shot one personally, but I have handled a few and they are very nice. They fix everything I like to change on a 10/22 (like the stock and barrel), without being ridiculously expensive.

If I had to buy instead of building, I would consider one. But personally, I like building so I tend to go that route.  Most of my 10/22s have started as basic carbine models. I do have one built on a Brownells receiver and bolt. It shoots very well.
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Yep, they're a great value when you add together all the upgrades. I mounted the Meopta 4-16 in LaRue QD rings on this one for a friend. Very accurate and 4.7lbs out of the box.

Link Posted: 9/15/2024 7:09:45 PM EDT
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This is you want a Ruger action, otherwise buy a used Marlin and slap a scope on it.  Cheaper, lighter, more accurate.  Yes, I've owned Riuger incuding a Target model with Volquartsen parts and the only thing the Ruger did better was the scope mount, which didn't make any real difference at the distances I was shooting or to the critters I shot.
Link Posted: 9/15/2024 7:24:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MrMackey:
Volquartsen trigger, Kidd barrel, magpul stock. Hux .22ti can. Had it out squirrel hunting this morning. Probably a lot heavier than what you want.
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I did the opposite of you. Volquartsen barrel and a Kidd trigger with the magpul stock. It’s a heck of a shooter. If you look you can find similar guns on the used market for a little over half of what it cost to build one. A buddy got a Magnum Research 10/22 with a C More sight for $650 shortly after I put mine together.
Link Posted: 9/15/2024 7:25:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MrMackey:
Volquartsen trigger, Kidd barrel, magpul stock. Hux .22ti can. Had it out squirrel hunting this morning. Probably a lot heavier than what you want.
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Scope?
Link Posted: 9/15/2024 9:45:56 PM EDT
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Shot Appleseed with the middle one, without the can, did pretty good with it.



Had to change the scope mount.

Link Posted: 9/15/2024 10:53:53 PM EDT
[#29]
Why not the factory Takedown Lite? It's everything you want. https://ruger.com/products/1022Lite/specSheets/21152.html. You could buy a takedown receiver and build it with a lightweight barrel from Volquartsen/TacSol whoever. I like my Tacsol but I've never shot it on paper and only used it for steel which is a drastically different game compared to precision. Really depends on what you want.
Link Posted: 9/15/2024 11:30:57 PM EDT
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Start with a base 10/22 and throw away everything but the receiver, order up every VQ part available,  then what VQ doesn't have Kidd will . After that order up a Lilja barrel , top it with a scope of your choice ( I used a Mueller) and slap it in a Fagen stock .  Then when your done you can look at it and say " I should have just bought a built Kidd rifle and been money ahead" . After that sell it at a loss and buy a CZ 455 Precision trainer . Or atleast that's how I did it .
Link Posted: 9/16/2024 12:27:25 AM EDT
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This is relevant to my interests.

I'm digging the Grey Birch chassis.
Link Posted: 9/16/2024 2:36:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Slingblade2006:
I have two 10/22’s.  If I was in the market for a new rimfire rifle, I would look at the Winchester Wildcat.  Takes 10/22 mags.  Seems well liked.
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I sell a lot of those.  Rebate just ended.  Very lightweight b/c the receiver is plastic.  Nice irons.
Link Posted: 9/16/2024 7:04:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FZJ80:
Kidd, just spec out a complete rifle.Kidd 10/22
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This.

No matter what 'improvements' you make it will still be limited by the Ruger part.
Link Posted: 9/16/2024 8:03:12 AM EDT
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I have a Volquartzen that is more accurate than any of my builds. All are accurate, but the Volquartzen shoots lasers. But most custom accurate barrels require match ammo at the minimum.
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