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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:41:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cypher15]
Update: Compression is right around 150psi. So that seems fine. Also have new plug and a rebuilt carb.
Update: So, I have rebuilt the carb and replaced the plug but no start. I do believe its pulling fuel because its pretty easy to pull and wasn't before (it sat for a few years). The lubrication form the mix got it moving well enough. Thing is it will only 'run' after pouring some fuel directly into it. It seems like the carb is not stock to the saw but does fit all the controls. Nothing Ive seen says the Walbro WJ27 is stock to it. So..... with that.. I dont know if it has reeds in it or not. Spec sheet says its supposed to have a 4 sided pyramid setup. So I got a free vintage Homelite saw (no brake) and need some ID help. I think its a Super XL-925 but not 100% sure. There is no ID tag on the saw that I can find. So here is what I really have to go off of. A worn clutch cover and its model number. Model number doesnt exactly match what pops up as clutch covers for sale but XL-925 covers do with ever so slightly different PN's. Idea is to restore it to working condition I am certain it isnt an XP-1020 or similar 100cc saw. Attached File Attached File |
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bumpity
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One bit of info is that the carb is a Walbro WJ27 carb
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Need pics of the entire saw to get an overall idea.
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Super XL?
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Originally Posted By TheLookingGlass: Need pics of the entire saw to get an overall idea. View Quote Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Careful with the fuel on that. I had one identical and it ran on 32:1, I believe.
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[Last Edit: Cypher15]
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Originally Posted By HUMONGO: Careful with the fuel on that. I had one identical and it ran on 32:1, I believe. View Quote https://acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/ac955814c40922b988256c260048fd18?OpenDocument Mine has a black filter cover and black accents on the clutch cover. The Husqy I got with teh Homelite (268xp) and my Echo 8000 take 50:1 |
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Update in OP
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Not much to them.
A saw that old could be down on vacuum. Have a compression gauge handy? |
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[#12]
Check compression.
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[#13]
Take the carb apart and see if the “tower” in the middle is gunked up. That is where the problem usually is, especially if it tries to run when you manually add fuel.
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Just get a new carb for it off Amazon, should be less that $20. That's the way I've fixed nearly all my 2 stroke engines that were hard starting or wouldn't stay running, it's never failed.
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Hell yeah! Built in a time when men where men, a saw was a saw and the only safety feature on the thing was "don't be a dumbass".
My SXLAO Attached File Attached File She's got a new cylinder and piston, rebuilt carb, ditched the points and condenser for a solid state chip, new recoil spring and 1/8" amsteel blue abrasion resistant line for the pull cord. A full chisel Oregon professional chain and some 32:1 mix and this thing EATS. |
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Libertatis!
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If the crank seals suck air, it'll never run right.
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[#17]
Can't offer any help, but am jealous and hope you get it running. Looks like a beast.
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I had one, it actually ran okay.
But no chain brake, no thank you. Kickback is dangerous enough with a damn chain brake. |
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I have no idea what the hell I am doing. My last words will probably be, "Well hell ... that didn't work."
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Compression check, vacuum/pressure check on the crankcase are all good ideas...
However, if it runs pouring mix in the carb throat, it should have enough compression to run if the carb is close. Odds are either the carb is really stopped up OR it's just not getting enough fuel. So potentially the carb isn't correct for the saw OR isn't adjusted properly. If you get it to run on the carb but it won't idle for shit....it's definitely time for a crankcase pressure/vacuum test. |
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[Last Edit: HotHolster]
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I guess its the Homelite season of no starts, except my three start but won't stay running. One I just had a new carb put on mid last year and it will start and run and it will rev up for 30 seconds then quit. I use non ethanol gas and they don't sit for long periods of time. I put all fresh gas and some sea foam in the tanks and hoping that the short time they run, the sea foam will loosen any gunk. When I get a chance I'll do carbs I guess.
Edit: This morning the Super 240 Classic started and ran. Lots of smoke from the sea foam additive but after a couple minutes it lessened as lot. One other started and quit, the other one just laughed at me. At least 1 have the one I wanted running, is. |
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[#24]
Compression is right around 150psi.
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[Last Edit: gillplate]
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Are your jets adjusted to an appropriate starting point?
Should be close to 1 1/2 turns out on both. ETA pretty sure those were reed valve type so you should have the pyramid with the valves between the carb and the cylinder. |
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I think it may be a slightly bent reed. Its ever so slight but when put against a machinist square it shows light.
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[#27]
Remove the muffler and make sure it's not clogged up.
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[#28]
Originally Posted By gillplate: Are your jets adjusted to an appropriate starting point? Should be close to 1 1/2 turns out on both. ETA pretty sure those were reed valve type so you should have the pyramid with the valves between the carb and the cylinder. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Cypher15: I think it may be a slightly bent reed. Its ever so slight but when put against a machinist square it shows light. View Quote Reeds don't always sit in 100% contact with the sealing surface. Outboards generally have a spec of about .020" that they can be off the sealing surface. I'd imagine all 2-strokes are about the same. |
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[#30]
Have you checked for spark?
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[#31]
Only run ethanol free gas in it with echo 2 cycle mix. 32:1 mix. Better to have a thicker mix than too thin
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[#32]
Learn how to adjust the carb needles. Usually a 1/2 turn one way or the other on the low speed jet will get it starting like a champ.
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So I opened up the carb again. Looks like I had the wrong circuit flapper sheet thing (dont know what its called..lol) and it had an extra hole so.. tiny fuel leak from that. I flipped the slightly bent reed and reinstalled. Then the pull cord decided to break
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[Last Edit: StromBusa]
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Ethanol probably wrecked the fuel line from the tank. unless it's all copper.
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Fixed the cord. SO I have compression, the spark, and the fuel... why you no worky..
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Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By Abominable: Just get a new carb for it off Amazon, should be less that $20. That's the way I've fixed nearly all my 2 stroke engines that were hard starting or wouldn't stay running, it's never failed. View Quote |
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Rebuilds are fun. Not necessarily economically sensible, but still fun.
If isn't for serious use, take a look at the new electrics. The manufacturers are doing a good job with some of them, |
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[Last Edit: TriggerM]
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Got my grandfather's blue homelite xl12 with bow bar. Sweet saw. Got it running after sitting for a long time.I remember watching him run that bad ass saw when I was about 5. Needed a saw earlier today, grabbed the Walmart Blackmax.
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[Last Edit: urluzn]
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May need to do a vacuum and pressure check on the engine. Air leaks will kill a two stroke. Make a block off plate for the exhaust and one in place of the carb. Get a brake line tester from the auto parts store that can pull a vacuum and pressurize. Something that old generally needs crank seals to run right. Also remove and check your flywheel and make sure the key isn't sheared on it getting it out of time if it is cast into the flywheel. As mentioned earlier check for exhaust blockages. I have also seen the porcelain on the sparkplug break and cover the electrode so check that as well. If it has reed valves make sure a saw chip is not hanging one open.
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[#44]
filter, line, carb rebuild, and plug. A little more cleaning of varnish, a lil adjustment, and boom.. it works. Anyone want a running vintage Homelite?
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Was thinking of a repaint and restoring the writing
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