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Tens of millions undocumented and roaming the country. Every picture shows a +90% MAM population infiltrating.
What's the solution? Amnesty ala Regan? Trebuchet Airlines? College degrees for everyone?? Dogs and squirrels living together??!??? |
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You handle this the same way you eat an elephant, one illegal immigrant at a time.
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Celebrating the remains of the Second Amendment one Fine Firearm at a Time. It. Thank God the adults are back in charge.
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Originally Posted By Nefarious1: Tens of millions undocumented and roaming the country. Every picture shows a +90% MAM population infiltrating. What's the solution? Amnesty ala Regan? Trebuchet Airlines? College degrees for everyone?? Dogs and squirrels living together??!??? View Quote The Regan amnesty was supposed to fix the problem when there was an estimated 3.5 million illegals. How did that go? End Jus Soli. Lifetime ban on any legal status if caught in the US after a certain date. No public aid to illegals. Subtract cost of dealing with illegals in the US from home countries aid package. Have the will to enforce the actual laws on the books now. Hit the pocket book of all the UN funded agencies facilitating this abroad. An easy start. |
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Apparently were all going to starve if we send them back.
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my ideas are efficient, cheap, and CoC...
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No amnesty ever for border hoppers
Free ticket back home and lifetime no fly list Mandatory $10,000 fine per violation and up to 1 year in jail for hiring illegals and permanent loss of business license End birthright citizenship Outlaw NGO’s Treat cartels as terrorist organizations |
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Originally Posted By Nefarious1: Tens of millions undocumented and roaming the country. Every picture shows a +90% MAM population infiltrating. What's the solution? Amnesty ala Regan? Trebuchet Airlines? College degrees for everyone?? Dogs and squirrels living together??!??? View Quote My friend’s dad said things started going south when California agreed to let children of illegal aliens attend public schools. Parents want better for their children, regardless of where they come from. |
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Bounties and cash rewards for information leading to an arrest and deportation.
No rights and protection for illegals under the constitution of the USA. All benefits and licenses revoked for every illegal. Penalties for sheltering or employing illegals. Budget cuts on FBI, CIA, ATF, redistributed to Customs & Border Control and National Guard. Demilitarized zone established on border and guarded 24/7 by National Guard, deadly force authorized. Reservations designated for illegals to be concentrated, controlled, and rounded up for deportation. |
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Originally Posted By Horned_Toad: The Regan amnesty was supposed to fix the problem when there was an estimated 3.5 million illegals. How did that go? End Jus Soli. Lifetime ban on any legal status if caught in the US after a certain date. No public aid to illegals. Subtract cost of dealing with illegals in the US from home countries aid package. Have the will to enforce the actual laws on the books now. Hit the pocket book of all the UN funded agencies facilitating this abroad. An easy start. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Horned_Toad: Originally Posted By Nefarious1: Tens of millions undocumented and roaming the country. Every picture shows a +90% MAM population infiltrating. What's the solution? Amnesty ala Regan? Trebuchet Airlines? College degrees for everyone?? Dogs and squirrels living together??!??? The Regan amnesty was supposed to fix the problem when there was an estimated 3.5 million illegals. How did that go? End Jus Soli. Lifetime ban on any legal status if caught in the US after a certain date. No public aid to illegals. Subtract cost of dealing with illegals in the US from home countries aid package. Have the will to enforce the actual laws on the books now. Hit the pocket book of all the UN funded agencies facilitating this abroad. An easy start. The part you forgot about is that Reagan made a deal with the Demonrats. Citizenship for the illegals and we would build a WALL. the dems lied (surprise) we got 11 million illegals now Citizens and NO WALL. never trust a Democrat. |
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The same way that you deal with any unwelcome person. Stop being tolerant of their presence. No jobs, no amnesty, no rental agreements. When they get picked up for a crime, immediate deportation. Won’t be long before they start leaving on their own.
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Life’s tough. Tougher when you’re stupid.
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Treat it the same as the feds would with a total gun ban.
Deportation if caught. No jobs, no welfare benefits, turned away at hospitals and ERs. You can keep your illegals hidden in the basement but you can't take them out and use them in public without getting caught. Also if you are a non-citizen and you aren't here for legitimate tourism or business, no police protection or rights in court. If someone commits a crime against you and you call the police, you get deported. We need a national ID that is used for voting, employment, banking, medical etc. |
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I was bitten by a Copperhead in 2011 or so while weeding. I have good eyesight and didn’t see him until he got me. Great camo! We had a lot of mice around the house then. I went to the shelter and asked for a barn cat. Old mouser has killed hundreds of mice and rats. Funny, I haven’t seen a snake anywhere near the house since and I see venomous snakes in the woods all the time. You need to remove the reason they come here. Any other method is urinating up a rope, and time is not on our side.
Allow Border Patrol to perform Expedited Removal again and make military aircraft available for them to do it. ICE needs to have nothing to do with that. Put Border Patrol people in charge of ICE and let the FugOps teams remove aliens with criminals history first, then focus on the low hangers. Catching the criminals will occupy 12 hours a day for the next 4 years and will still only make a good dent. |
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Originally Posted By Horned_Toad: The Regan amnesty was supposed to fix the problem when there was an estimated 3.5 million illegals. How did that go? End Jus Soli. Lifetime ban on any legal status if caught in the US after a certain date. No public aid to illegals. Subtract cost of dealing with illegals in the US from home countries aid package. Have the will to enforce the actual laws on the books now. Hit the pocket book of all the UN funded agencies facilitating this abroad. An easy start. View Quote This. |
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I heard on one of the nationally syndicated talk radio shows (Beck, Clay & Buck, Hannity, I don’t remember which one, a guest said President Trump would have to call up an extraordinary number of National Guard, law enforcement, retired law enforcement officers, retired military personnel and others to hunt them down for capture and deportation their asses after a court hearing.
I hope that is true and I hope Trump does this. And build that F@&?@)G wall! |
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Turn the spigot off
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I don't know my neighbors immigration status but they are hard working decent folks. I don't care if they stay. Can we just get rid of the criminal immigrants?
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Close the border
Catch one, send them back Breaking the law, jail Don’t go door to door, but maybe the big businesses |
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17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Really easy, with existing law and a few new federal laws attached to shit the democrats can't live without.
Use the RICO statues to go after any corporation that employees or provides services or housing to people illegally in the US. Now, in order to do this, it will require a federal ID. Any discussion about solving the illegal alien problem starts with knowing who is illegal and who isn't. As soon as corporate funds and assets are being seized by the DOJ, including corporate officers personal assets, and they're being incarcerated for at least 10 years per illegal alien their corporation hired or provided services to, you will see illegals self deport. If a corporation saves $10 million a year employing illegals and pays a $20,000 fine if caught, it's a no brainer. But if the company will be seized and it's pieces auction off by the DOJ, it will stop. Oh, that also includes religious NGOs. They are the worst at encouraging and enabling illegals. There is a real solution, no death camps, machine guns on the border or giant mote involved. |
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A true Texan would never leave his friends behind!
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It's gonna be painful like pulling out a bunch of rotting teeth with no anesthetic...but if you don't do it the patient will die.
Make significant examples out of the first million and the rest will self deport...mass media blitz showing them what's gonna happen to them... Appoint the right people to FCC |
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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Fix bayonets and march
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Originally Posted By FlamingDragon: Bounties and cash rewards for information leading to an arrest and deportation. No rights and protection for illegals under the constitution of the USA. All benefits and licenses revoked for every illegal. Penalties for sheltering or employing illegals. Budget cuts on FBI, CIA, ATF, redistributed to Customs & Border Control and National Guard. Demilitarized zone established on border and guarded 24/7 by National Guard, deadly force authorized. Reservations designated for illegals to be concentrated, controlled, and rounded up for deportation. View Quote I..I..like the way you think. You must listen to conservative talk radio. |
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You cut off the benefits. That's what so many people are coming for.
Disallow illegal immigrants from getting EBT cards. Don't let them apply for housing assistance. Don't let them put their kids into public schools. That will help reduce the inflow. |
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc: It's gonna be painful like pulling out a bunch of rotting teeth with no anesthetic...but if you don't do it the patient will die. View Quote Doesn't have to be, at all. Using my plan, after we got rid of all the illegals, we create a streamlined temporary work visa. You just want to come here and work, and send money back to Guatemala or wherever, great. Here is your temp visa, it's good for 6 months, you have to renew every 6 months. You pay for the background check we do into you to make sure you aren't a criminal. You pay taxes, you obey all laws while you are here or back you go. This gives economic opportunity to people that need it, cheap labor for US industries that need it. Win win. |
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A true Texan would never leave his friends behind!
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Originally Posted By Brian01: You cut off the benefits. That's what so many people are coming for. Disallow illegal immigrants from getting EBT cards. Don't let them apply for housing assistance. Don't let them put their kids into public schools. That will help reduce the inflow. View Quote Pull the plug on all tax payer handouts for illegals We need to reopen an Ellis Island to throughly vet all immigrants and student visas... |
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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They go home. It's the only answer.
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Realistically . . . the problem is not so much rounding them up and shipping them out. The problem is the lawfare from the left that will try to hamstring the effort.
Trump needs to use the power of the purse. Sanctuary city? Cut all federal funding. Lawsuits from states? Surgically cut funding to programs in those states that benefit leftists. etc etc You do the same thing with the trannie issue. Universities insisting on gender nonsense? No money for you from Uncle Sugar When the money is cut off, I think people would be amazed at how fast the ruling powers of leftist groups get with the program . . . even when they hate it. |
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Originally Posted By colklink: Doesn't have to be, at all. Using my plan, after we got rid of all the illegals, we create a streamlined temporary work visa. You just want to come here and work, and send money back to Guatemala or wherever, great. Here is your temp visa, it's good for 6 months, you have to renew every 6 months. You pay for the background check we do into you to make sure you aren't a criminal. You pay taxes, you obey all laws while you are here or back you go. This gives economic opportunity to people that need it, cheap labor for US industries that need it. Win win. View Quote But it isn't a "win-win" for tax payers who will end up subsidizing it. Dump them all and start from scratch Ellis Island throughly vet for criminals and terrorists...and I'll agree to your plan. |
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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Originally Posted By Horned_Toad: The Regan amnesty was supposed to fix the problem when there was an estimated 3.5 million illegals. How did that go? End Jus Soli. Lifetime ban on any legal status if caught in the US after a certain date. No public aid to illegals. Subtract cost of dealing with illegals in the US from home countries aid package. Have the will to enforce the actual laws on the books now. Hit the pocket book of all the UN funded agencies facilitating this abroad. An easy start. View Quote Boom! |
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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Originally Posted By Nefarious1: Tens of millions undocumented and roaming the country. Every picture shows a +90% MAM population infiltrating. What's the solution? Amnesty ala Regan? Trebuchet Airlines? College degrees for everyone?? Dogs and squirrels living together??!??? View Quote 1. Stop the leaking. Bailing the boat while the water is still coming in wont work. 2. Cut off the gravy train. Not a citizen, no food stamps no free rent no medical care. Allow hospitals to refuse treatment if a noncitizen cant pay. 3. Round up any lawbreakers and criminals as a priority. Deport them immediately. Single males next and families if they brought them. 4. Sanction any business that hires and uses illegals. Allow work visas and a work SA number se we can tax them. 5. No more automatic citizenship for merely being born on US territory. 6. If the country of origin wont take back their citizens, freeze and confiscate their property and money for the costs of taking care of their people. Tariff the crap out of mexico and shelve nafta and any other trade treaties. Blockade their ports. |
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1) Lock down the border
2) Cut off benefits 3) Prosecute all unverified employment severely 4) Give them a ticket/transport to leave 5) DOGE to review legal immigration process |
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Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF1, would have immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun.
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Grab all of the low hanging fruit, stop any form of assistance and welfare for any immigrant regardless of whether they’re here illegally or here lawfully, disincentivize illegals or those with expired visas staying in every way imaginable, and aggressively prosecute business owners for hiring illegals.
ETA: I forgot to add ending birthright citizenship. No more anchor babies. |
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If you don't get serious and crack down on employers hiring illegals you're never going to address the issue so that's number 1. Second, you need to address work visas and cutting out fraud there. Then you can address each signle illegal and follow a deportation process. Many will self-deport which will make things easy but the reality is some compromise will be settled on to allow many to stay here. I believe that's a means test with accessing skillsets, education and financial ties within the US (like every other on the planet does,) because we don't need millions of 8th grade educated people who work with hammers and shovels.
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And when the Bolshevik media blitzes back
What aspiring conservative politician will be willing to become the face of such insufferable cruelty... |
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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Load them up in rockets and send them one-way to Mars. We'll have a colony eventually.
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I actually think this is pretty easy to solve actually.
1. Close the border, immediately. hard lock down 2. Cut funding to NGOs that are fucking us up the ass to bring illegals in. 3. Start investigations into NGO's bringing new illegals in. Chase the money, find out where it's coming from 4. Tax remittances to Mexico at a punitive rate. I'm not sue what that is. 25 percent? 50? 5. Charge anyone hiring illegals. Any business hiring illegals pays a 10K fine, per illegal, with a progressive damage multiplier. 1-5:10K per. 6-20: 15K per etc 6. massive PR campaign about damaged of illegal immigration: Child trafficking, crime, drug deaths. You need to combat the ol "they are splitting families and orphaning kids" narrative. Show extreme compassion to kids 7. Path to citizenship: fix immigration to process requests faster, make it merit based. here's where we can get ahead of left: for an undocumented illegal that has STARTED THE PROCESS, or TRIED to do it the right way, filed some paperwork, has applied to enter legally but it took too long: Get them on path to citizenship. Find the few that did it right, and reward them. Publicly. Show that you are trying to fix it the right way. Push their applications through, show them completing the process, etc 8. punitively fine/embargo any country facilitating illegal alien invasion. Mexico. Haiti. Venezuala. If they are facilitating in any way. punish them hard. 9. Begine to dial back benefits for illegals. Allow hospitals to triage and turn away anyone non-emergent. refuse coerage for anything that can be dealt with via advil/tylenol/bandaids 10. Dial back benefits, 10% a month reduction till it's at zero 11. cut payments to hotels and other illegal support centers. 10 % a month till it's zero. 12. Shift that money to "exfiltration service vendors": buses to the border. Diaper bags or kids, travel meals. Cash bonus for exiting etc. 13. CAtch true criminals, make extreme examples out of them. heavy jail time, publicized criminal alien arrests etc most of this can be done with policy and make it so difficult to be here they will leave. The money spent right not supporting them, can be turned to get them out. We don't have to catch them all and drag them to the border. Cut off the source of free money, make it hard to get employed, they'll largely leave. |
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No benefits for non citizens... hell, stop the benefits to the citizens too. Bring back chain gangs and prison work camps. Stop locking people up for stupid shit and let the rest pick blueberries. You kill the guy you're chained to, you drag him the rest of the day. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
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Stop giving out free stuff and it will fix itself. Quickly
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Always blame autocorrect.
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Originally Posted By Brian01: You cut off the benefits. That's what so many people are coming for. Disallow illegal immigrants from getting EBT cards. Don't let them apply for housing assistance. Don't let them put their kids into public schools. That will help reduce the inflow. View Quote This, immediately cut the funding and social benefits they are receiving. Immediately stop the fema funding that's being sent to sanctuary states/cities. Hopefully this alone will force many of them to go back to where they came from voluntarily. |
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Originally Posted By Oldgold: Close the border Catch one, send them back Breaking the law, jail Don’t go door to door, but maybe the big businesses View Quote The meat processors the canning factories even just large farms that have bought up four or five failed farm around them are stocked full of illegals... If the FCC doesn't shut down the left wing press and the Bolsheviks aren't purged lots of luck with anything bold to fix this sorry state they left us. And the lawfare that's coming...on the heels of this... It's gonna be a large shit sandwitch and we're all gonna have to take a bite... |
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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Tax all remittances (money orders, electronic transfers) to outside the USA at least 50%
Fine and jail HR and business owners/CEOs who knowingly employ illegals. Finish the Wall. |
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Invade Mexico is step #1 because the Cartels, there ain’t NO way you are doing shit without the Cartel approving first. Dream on.
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Cut all funding to ngo's
Get search warrants and hit every ngo at tye same time to get files and photos of those they he'll. Pass info to ICE Lock that fucking border down. Send tact teams after those groups of men in camo with backpacks Build that wall and add hogweed to both sides That 188 million sent to Mexico stops Send back every mother that's crossed from.there side Cartels are terrorist organization. Treat them as such Cut of the VA help they were given this administration Cut off social security they were given Students on visas that were protesting for hamassholes and hezobollah need to be told they're visas are done If they don't leave on there own pick them up and fly them back as they go to school or work |
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Originally Posted By colklink: Really easy, with existing law and a few new federal laws attached to shit the democrats can't live without. Use the RICO statues to go after any corporation that employees or provides services or housing to people illegally in the US. Now, in order to do this, it will require a federal ID. Any discussion about solving the illegal alien problem starts with knowing who is illegal and who isn't. As soon as corporate funds and assets are being seized by the DOJ, including corporate officers personal assets, and they're being incarcerated for at least 10 years per illegal alien their corporation hired or provided services to, you will see illegals self deport. If a corporation saves $10 million a year employing illegals and pays a $20,000 fine if caught, it's a no brainer. But if the company will be seized and it's pieces auction off by the DOJ, it will stop. Oh, that also includes religious NGOs. They are the worst at encouraging and enabling illegals. There is a real solution, no death camps, machine guns on the border or giant mote involved. View Quote You would not believe the agricultural small businesses in this state as well as the big ones use illegal labor... We have huge canning factories,orchards,meat processors, been run with illegal labor for generations... |
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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Eliminate social programs for illegal immigrants
Fine companies that employ them Arrest and deport them as you find them |
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If you can't take the high road, occupy the high ground.
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It’s simple.
Revamp the h2a and h2b visa program to make it cheaper and easier to use. Make it so the worker is required to foot the bill for the visa and travel. Vet all people getting visas. Get rid of the adverse minimum wage and figure out a way to tax visa holders for healthcare and auto insurance while they are in our country. Mandate that all employers use the e verify system that we already have in place. Mandate a $10k fine for every illegal worker on your payroll after a certain date. Require everyone going to school, getting government aid, whatever, to provide proof of citizenship. They will self deport once their are no jobs and no services. |
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If you've got a blacklist, I want to be on it.
FL, USA
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Sadly, there is no "dealing" with it, as the people with the power to deal with it want them here.
Watch what happens when Trump goes after them. He'll be hamstrung at every turn. |
The only thing that you can guess about a broken down old man... is that he is a survivor.
The man is heartless and jaded. By this point he's probably comfortable with it. - SmilingBandit |
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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Originally Posted By Nefarious1: Tens of millions undocumented and roaming the country. Every picture shows a +90% MAM population infiltrating. What's the solution? Amnesty ala Regan? Trebuchet Airlines? College degrees for everyone?? Dogs and squirrels living together??!??? View Quote It's easy, enforce existing immigration laws... https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1907-title-8-usc-1324a-offenses#:~:text=Subsection%201324(a)(1,any%20of%20the%20preceding%20acts. This makes it a Federal felony to aid illegal aliens in remaining in the country. That means hiring them, giving them housing, voting to make your city a sanctuary city, things like that. Since the punishment is 10 years in prison, per illegal alien, you can see that a great many Democrats will still be in prison millions of years from now, even with time off for good behavior. Oh, and hope those illegals you harbored didn't kill anyone because... In addition, significant enhanced penalties are provided for in violations of 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1) involving serious bodily injury or placing life in jeopardy. Moreover, if the violation results in the death of any person, the defendant may be punished by death or by imprisonment for any term of years. View Quote So, simply announce that these laws will be enforced and remind everyone that, as they have been in effect for years, it is an act of extreme mercy that we aren't prosecuting and executing people for past violations. But, going forward, all of that changes immediately. The illegals then have no jobs, no welfare, no housing, no education, no nothing and they will self deport. Also, as an act of extreme mercy, any illegal who can't vacate the country immediately can turn themselves in at which point they will be deported back to Zimbabwe... the fact that they didn't come from there is no concern of ours. |
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There are 100 kinds of people, those who can both understand binary and extrapolate from incomplete information…
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Luke 11:21 “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own mansion, his property is safe.”
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Originally Posted By bondryan: It’s simple. Revamp the h2a and h2b visa program to make it cheaper and easier to use. Make it so the worker is required to foot the bill for the visa and travel. Vet all people getting visas. Get rid of the adverse minimum wage and figure out a way to tax visa holders for healthcare and auto insurance while they are in our country. Mandate that all employers use the e verify system that we already have in place. Mandate a $10k fine for every illegal worker on your payroll after a certain date. Require everyone going to school, getting government aid, whatever, to provide proof of citizenship. They will self deport once their are no jobs and no services. View Quote Those are really the key right there. Turn of gubmint benefits to non-citizens the incentive to be here will be far less. Work visas will need to be religiously monitored because they will become corrupted by big businesses to suppress wages for all workers just like they're used for now. Ted Cruz had a great idea about having h1b salaries tied to a nationwide average wage, I like that idea but you'd have to have regional differences to account for COL but yeah otherwise take the financial incentive away for work Visas. |
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