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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:02:53 PM EDT
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Quoted: I know the knights ones are rare and stupid expensive, but are there any us made set ups I can get? I know there is a Canadian one but I don’t know if they import to the USA. I can’t help you but is that considered NFA in any way? |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:04:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can’t help you but is that considered NFA in any way? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I know the knights ones are rare and stupid expensive, but are there any us made set ups I can get? I know there is a Canadian one but I don’t know if they import to the USA. I can’t help you but is that considered NFA in any way? Yes it would be a sbs |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:05:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes it would be a sbs Thanks! I was wondering that... |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:12:45 PM EDT
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Can you form 1 it?
Have dremel, will travel 
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:28:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you form 1 it? Have dremel, will travel Yes of course. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:35:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:40:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNice! |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:00:55 PM EDT
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I’m about to send a 870 magnum receiver off to get the Mag tube cut down to MCS length. I also want to get sling swivel installed on the top back end of the receiver but I don’t know if it’s threaded in. Soldered in or if there’s type of nut inside….
So to hijack your thread , does anybody have a Remington MCS with some close up pics? |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 12:55:38 AM EDT
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I just built one with a 870 Police Mag receiver. The MCS Forend and tube assembly is the bugger. Made my own forend.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:15:41 AM EDT
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@jeffb1911
@fgshoot |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:17:42 AM EDT
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Anyone have a video of someone trying to breech a door, from the lock side, with this monster?
I prefer the stock/grip to be as thin as possible near the receiver to use my thumb once you have it angled in and down. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:18:51 AM EDT
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I dig this thread . In !
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:19:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @jeffb1911 @fgshoot Sorry, I know very little about the 870. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:28:43 AM EDT
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If people want to play with breeching rounds, a cheap option is to take a single shot, shotgun and cut down the barrel to 18” and the stock to where you still have 26” OAL ( to avoid NFA stamps). Because the receiver is shorter, you can get it shorter than a pump.
Note: most breeches are going to take more than one shot. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:13:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice! Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice! His website I believe it is a one man shop. I have messaged the owner on FB for general questions about the mount and the capabilities. The good thing is the mount can be utilized for both the 870 and 500/590. However, the 500/590 needs an extra work for security and if i remember correctly it was the installation of helicoils into Mossberg receiver. The 870 just drill and tap. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:17:58 PM EDT
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Nevermind - they took it down... |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:44:19 PM EDT
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If you are wanting to go the whipit route with pistol grips, i'd recommend getting a set of the old TacStar type grips. The are based off the old Thompson 1928 grips front and back. The good thing about the front grip is that it forces you to not let your left hand get too far forward and be subect to the mussle blast or worse. And they push the recoil down into the palm of the hand, not driving it into the web. This does make recoil hurt a lot less.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:51:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are wanting to go the whipit route with pistol grips, i'd recommend getting a set of the old TacStar type grips. The are based off the old Thompson 1928 grips front and back. The good thing about the front grip is that it forces you to not let your left hand get too far forward and be subect to the mussle blast or worse. And they push the recoil down into the palm of the hand, not driving it into the web. This does make recoil hurt a lot less. The Pachmayr Vindicator was what I was going with, but, after installation, its not a sturdy as it looks. I also dabbled with a LWRC PDW stock for this, well, because.... I think I'll end up with the pirate gun (only a pistol grip) but I'm still messing about. Hogue will be considered next. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:57:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone have a video of someone trying to breech a door, from the lock side, with this monster? I prefer the stock/grip to be as thin as possible near the receiver to use my thumb once you have it angled in and down. Done enough breeches, but we transitioned to a breaching brake. Then we know the holdoff is always right. I never have seen an issue with it, but some guys complained they were too close and it caused some gas blowback. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:16:54 PM EDT
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I was under the impression that the cool kids keep a separate breaching shotgun and no longer hang the extra 6 pounds off of their fighting rifles. Is that not the case?
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:39:01 PM EDT
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it's an annoying and expensive proposition. I tried. The 870 needs to be SBS. Then you need to either get the standard lower tube/barrel, which works out to be ~12.5" barrel at the end of the clamp ring, or source an MCS (I think) military kit for the shorter tube and barrel. Forend bars need to be cut short and rewelded. then you need a clamp, either one of the knights if you can find it or cheap clone copy, lots exist. You need the right barrel/handguard for whatever you decide. If you can do this work, great, but if you farm it out you need the original length parts and the cost of mods worked out to be $800+ last I looked from reputable people.
I believe you wouldn't need to stamp the 870 SO LONG AS the gun you have it attached to is a "pistol" and has a brace, cause then your 870 (so long as it started out a firearm and not a shotgun) would meet the same general requirements as a tacwave, but I'm not a lawyer. In the end, I spent $400 cutting a few inches off a $200 18" shotgun to get one that's only a hair shorter than a shockwave is. I never shoot it and it now wears a folding stock for shits and giggles. WIth the 12.5" barrel and action, you're at about 24" OAL. Which is just a hair shorter than the 26.5" shockwaves. And like 8" longer than a damn rattler is folded. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, but it's pretty low on the list of range toys for me. I mostly stamped the 870 cause it was my first gun and I'll never sell it anyway, so why not? I did SBS instead of AOW so I can throw on a PG, birdhead, folding, or full stock and be 'legal' in my state. It's silly but I think that's OK. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:09:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was under the impression that the cool kids keep a separate breaching shotgun and no longer hang the extra 6 pounds off of their fighting rifles. Is that not the case? These things were the shit. Perfect length 10” barrel hung from a bungee over the shoulder to hang under the armpit with shotgun catch on your gun belt to keep it in place. No standoff muzzle device. Just proper muzzle placement in contact with the door at a 45 in and 45 degree down angle. They worked well.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:57:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it's an annoying and expensive proposition. I tried. The 870 needs to be SBS. Then you need to either get the standard lower tube/barrel, which works out to be ~12.5" barrel at the end of the clamp ring, or source an MCS (I think) military kit for the shorter tube and barrel. Forend bars need to be cut short and rewelded. then you need a clamp, either one of the knights if you can find it or cheap clone copy, lots exist. You need the right barrel/handguard for whatever you decide. If you can do this work, great, but if you farm it out you need the original length parts and the cost of mods worked out to be $800+ last I looked from reputable people. I believe you wouldn't need to stamp the 870 SO LONG AS the gun you have it attached to is a "pistol" and has a brace, cause then your 870 (so long as it started out a firearm and not a shotgun) would meet the same general requirements as a tacwave, but I'm not a lawyer. In the end, I spent $400 cutting a few inches off a $200 18" shotgun to get one that's only a hair shorter than a shockwave is. I never shoot it and it now wears a folding stock for shits and giggles. WIth the 12.5" barrel and action, you're at about 24" OAL. Which is just a hair shorter than the 26.5" shockwaves. And like 8" longer than a damn rattler is folded. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, but it's pretty low on the list of range toys for me. I mostly stamped the 870 cause it was my first gun and I'll never sell it anyway, so why not? I did SBS instead of AOW so I can throw on a PG, birdhead, folding, or full stock and be 'legal' in my state. It's silly but I think that's OK. There has been at least one letter posted here that I remember that said you can mount an AOW to a rifle and it doesn't change it's designation. It was in reference to mounting a shotgun to a rifle like a Masterkey. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:28:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There has been at least one letter posted here that I remember that said you can mount an AOW to a rifle and it doesn't change it's designation. It was in reference to mounting a shotgun to a rifle like a Masterkey. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: it's an annoying and expensive proposition. I tried. The 870 needs to be SBS. Then you need to either get the standard lower tube/barrel, which works out to be ~12.5" barrel at the end of the clamp ring, or source an MCS (I think) military kit for the shorter tube and barrel. Forend bars need to be cut short and rewelded. then you need a clamp, either one of the knights if you can find it or cheap clone copy, lots exist. You need the right barrel/handguard for whatever you decide. If you can do this work, great, but if you farm it out you need the original length parts and the cost of mods worked out to be $800+ last I looked from reputable people. I believe you wouldn't need to stamp the 870 SO LONG AS the gun you have it attached to is a "pistol" and has a brace, cause then your 870 (so long as it started out a firearm and not a shotgun) would meet the same general requirements as a tacwave, but I'm not a lawyer. In the end, I spent $400 cutting a few inches off a $200 18" shotgun to get one that's only a hair shorter than a shockwave is. I never shoot it and it now wears a folding stock for shits and giggles. WIth the 12.5" barrel and action, you're at about 24" OAL. Which is just a hair shorter than the 26.5" shockwaves. And like 8" longer than a damn rattler is folded. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, but it's pretty low on the list of range toys for me. I mostly stamped the 870 cause it was my first gun and I'll never sell it anyway, so why not? I did SBS instead of AOW so I can throw on a PG, birdhead, folding, or full stock and be 'legal' in my state. It's silly but I think that's OK. There has been at least one letter posted here that I remember that said you can mount an AOW to a rifle and it doesn't change it's designation. It was in reference to mounting a shotgun to a rifle like a Masterkey. Unless I go to a 07/02 sot the price to stamp it is the same for aow or sbs. The only time it’s a 5 dollar stamp is on a f4 from the manufacturer or from someone else who already paid the 200 dollar stamp tax or at least how I understand it. I was interested in the Remington mcs route but damn those are expensive even coming from the company that builds them from the ground up where they can make the. The right way from the start and not do modifications after the fact. This is just something cool I have wanted to have for a long time. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:59:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless I go to a 07/02 sot the price to stamp it is the same for aow or sbs. The only time it’s a 5 dollar stamp is on a f4 from the manufacturer or from someone else who already paid the 200 dollar stamp tax or at least how I understand it. I was interested in the Remington mcs route but damn those are expensive even coming from the company that builds them from the ground up where they can make the. The right way from the start and not do modifications after the fact. This is just something cool I have wanted to have for a long time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: it's an annoying and expensive proposition. I tried. The 870 needs to be SBS. Then you need to either get the standard lower tube/barrel, which works out to be ~12.5" barrel at the end of the clamp ring, or source an MCS (I think) military kit for the shorter tube and barrel. Forend bars need to be cut short and rewelded. then you need a clamp, either one of the knights if you can find it or cheap clone copy, lots exist. You need the right barrel/handguard for whatever you decide. If you can do this work, great, but if you farm it out you need the original length parts and the cost of mods worked out to be $800+ last I looked from reputable people. I believe you wouldn't need to stamp the 870 SO LONG AS the gun you have it attached to is a "pistol" and has a brace, cause then your 870 (so long as it started out a firearm and not a shotgun) would meet the same general requirements as a tacwave, but I'm not a lawyer. In the end, I spent $400 cutting a few inches off a $200 18" shotgun to get one that's only a hair shorter than a shockwave is. I never shoot it and it now wears a folding stock for shits and giggles. WIth the 12.5" barrel and action, you're at about 24" OAL. Which is just a hair shorter than the 26.5" shockwaves. And like 8" longer than a damn rattler is folded. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, but it's pretty low on the list of range toys for me. I mostly stamped the 870 cause it was my first gun and I'll never sell it anyway, so why not? I did SBS instead of AOW so I can throw on a PG, birdhead, folding, or full stock and be 'legal' in my state. It's silly but I think that's OK. There has been at least one letter posted here that I remember that said you can mount an AOW to a rifle and it doesn't change it's designation. It was in reference to mounting a shotgun to a rifle like a Masterkey. Unless I go to a 07/02 sot the price to stamp it is the same for aow or sbs. The only time it’s a 5 dollar stamp is on a f4 from the manufacturer or from someone else who already paid the 200 dollar stamp tax or at least how I understand it. I was interested in the Remington mcs route but damn those are expensive even coming from the company that builds them from the ground up where they can make the. The right way from the start and not do modifications after the fact. This is just something cool I have wanted to have for a long time. I understand the classifications I was addressing his comment about it needing to be a SBS. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:17:29 PM EDT
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I'm only here because my 1st post ever on the ar15.com mail server back about 1996ish was on trying to build out a masterkey.
I never built one, but damn I'm getting old. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:21:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These things were the shit. Perfect length 10” barrel hung from a bungee over the shoulder to hang under the armpit with shotgun catch on your gun belt to keep it in place. No standoff muzzle device. Just proper muzzle placement in contact with the door at a 45 in and 45 degree down angle. They worked well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/263143/IMG_2233_jpeg-3314970.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was under the impression that the cool kids keep a separate breaching shotgun and no longer hang the extra 6 pounds off of their fighting rifles. Is that not the case? These things were the shit. Perfect length 10” barrel hung from a bungee over the shoulder to hang under the armpit with shotgun catch on your gun belt to keep it in place. No standoff muzzle device. Just proper muzzle placement in contact with the door at a 45 in and 45 degree down angle. They worked well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/263143/IMG_2233_jpeg-3314970.JPG I quess I misunderstood what the master key was. I thought all these years it was an under barrel mounted SBS for an M/AR series rifle. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:34:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I quess I misunderstood what the master key was. I thought all these years it was an under barrel mounted SBS for an M/AR series rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was under the impression that the cool kids keep a separate breaching shotgun and no longer hang the extra 6 pounds off of their fighting rifles. Is that not the case? These things were the shit. Perfect length 10” barrel hung from a bungee over the shoulder to hang under the armpit with shotgun catch on your gun belt to keep it in place. No standoff muzzle device. Just proper muzzle placement in contact with the door at a 45 in and 45 degree down angle. They worked well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/263143/IMG_2233_jpeg-3314970.JPG I quess I misunderstood what the master key was. I thought all these years it was an under barrel mounted SBS for an M/AR series rifle. The Knights Masterkey is an underbarrel shotgun. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:46:22 PM EDT
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Somebody should turn a Remington Tac13 into a MasterKey for funsies.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:11:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Somebody should turn a Remington Tac13 into a MasterKey for funsies. Faster followup, but I have always been a little leery of semiautos. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:32:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've wanted one for breaching for YEARS. V3 parts are... unobtanium, and high dollar when they are. Strange. Faster followup, but I have always been a little leery of semiautos. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Somebody should turn a Remington Tac13 into a MasterKey for funsies. Faster followup, but I have always been a little leery of semiautos. Semi autos are fine and I'd say failure rates with a clean semi shotgun shooting high brass loads is way lower than the number of short strokes on a pump under high stress. The beauty of a semi auto MasterKey would be the ability to fire multiple shots from the shoulder. It would double as a defensive weapon instead of just a breacher. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:43:35 PM EDT
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I used to make a similar design called The Doorknocker: Firearm Accessory Mount, a bar of 7075 T6 aluminum milled down to the M203 spec with the underside milled out to fit the 870 receiver top using a custom ground ball end mill. Used to sell them for $135 plus $5.95 Priority Mail.
The Moss 500/590 could fit, but the mount blocked the safety lever, I was worried about getting sued because some numbskull shot somebody running around with the breacher off safe at all times. I always wanted to try to mount the old Mossberg 9200 Jungle Gun semi-auto using the Doorknocker. I sold the tooling and "tech data package" to Jonathan in FL but he went bankrupt. I'm not sure if the design is owned by any bank or creditor at this point, over 18 years later. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 8:31:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Semi autos are fine and I'd say failure rates with a clean semi shotgun shooting high brass loads is way lower than the number of short strokes on a pump under high stress. The beauty of a semi auto MasterKey would be the ability to fire multiple shots from the shoulder. It would double as a defensive weapon instead of just a breacher. Breaching... I want to agree with you, but theory and finding someone that used it in the dirt and can say yeah, this worked great but no one wanted to pay for them, and the maintenance was too much. I truly want a semiauto breach-only tool. Past my time, but... I still want it. I didn't see too many short strokes, but I grew up in the time that a pump gun was also what people were using to put food on the table, deter predators and hunt people with. Now that it is deprecated and relegated to minor roles, I can kinda see it. I should have been more worried about overstroking and hamburgering my girlfriend, but I could never see my way to putting a DEA duckbill on any of mine at the time. (And still doesn't explain why I can't build a V3 cheaper than buying one lol) I saw a real masterkey a long time ago. I just didn't have the upper body to where it made sense to me. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 8:50:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've wanted one for breaching for YEARS. V3 parts are... unobtanium, and high dollar when they are. Strange. Faster followup, but I have always been a little leery of semiautos. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Somebody should turn a Remington Tac13 into a MasterKey for funsies. Faster followup, but I have always been a little leery of semiautos. I thought Mossberg was making a 940 Shockwave but I don't see it on their website. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:00:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought Mossberg was making a 940 Shockwave but I don't see it on their website. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Somebody should turn a Remington Tac13 into a MasterKey for funsies. Faster followup, but I have always been a little leery of semiautos. I thought Mossberg was making a 940 Shockwave but I don't see it on their website. I've never heard of that. Where is the recoil system on the 940? ETA that's a no go  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:47:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never heard of that. Where is the recoil system on the 940? ETA that's a no go https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129950/940prosml_mossberg_jpg-3316136.JPG I desire an item that a pigeonhead will fit on. Most have items that live in the stock, so a nonstarter for me. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:35:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: thanks for looking that up. I desire an item that a pigeonhead will fit on. Most have items that live in the stock, so a nonstarter for me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've never heard of that. Where is the recoil system on the 940? ETA that's a no go https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129950/940prosml_mossberg_jpg-3316136.JPG I desire an item that a pigeonhead will fit on. Most have items that live in the stock, so a nonstarter for me. Yeah that's why the Tac13 is V3 based. I almost bought a Vinci to chop down but never pulled the trigger. The stocks just pop on and off quickly so you could go back and forth between a pistol grip and stock. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:43:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I quess I misunderstood what the master key was. I thought all these years it was an under barrel mounted SBS for an M/AR series rifle. I was talking about and added a pic of the MCS in response to the usability of a rifle mounted masterkey vs a separate dedicated breaching tool. I would very much have disliked relying on a masterkey as a breaching shotgun. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:48:01 PM EDT
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I've still never shot one but it always seemed like one of those things that on paper seems like a great solution but in practice falls short.
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Posted: 9/10/2024 12:46:08 PM EDT
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Just saw this, you can now purchase one ready to go.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/AGW-KTMS12--AKA-Masterkey/824-306008/ |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 12:56:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just saw this, you can now purchase one ready to go. https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/AGW-KTMS12--AKA-Masterkey/824-306008/ Oh, what timing.
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Posted: 9/10/2024 1:18:50 PM EDT
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Could you use a Shockwave with birds' head removed and bolted to a brace-equipped pistol?
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Posted: 9/10/2024 1:53:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just saw this, you can now purchase one ready to go. https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/AGW-KTMS12--AKA-Masterkey/824-306008/ How’s it an SBS with no stock? |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 1:56:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can’t help you but is that considered NFA in any way? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I know the knights ones are rare and stupid expensive, but are there any us made set ups I can get? I know there is a Canadian one but I don’t know if they import to the USA. I can’t help you but is that considered NFA in any way? What if it was mounted to an AR-pistol with a brace? |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 2:02:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: How’s it an SBS with no stock? My understanding is that an SBS can have a stock but doesn’t have to. Plus when mounted the stock of the rifle is also the shotguns stock. An AOW can never have a stock. Some states are fine with one vs the other at the their legal level. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 3:07:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My understanding is that an SBS can have a stock but doesn’t have to. Plus when mounted the stock of the rifle is also the shotguns stock. An AOW can never have a stock. Some states are fine with one vs the other at the their legal level. That's why I suggested Shockwave on a pistol-braced weapon. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 3:58:07 PM EDT
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So what is it like using a Master Key on an M4? With standard Buckshot?
I know the concept was anti-doorlock rounds but I assume many will want to shoot it with Buckshot as well. Painful? or not bad? Anyone know what the price neighborhood is on the AGW kit? It looks sweet. |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 5:14:16 PM EDT
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Hey guys! Our guns are plug and play clones and are $1850. The first run is SBS only (for the reasons already stated above) but we will have a very limited number of AOW's for brace pistol/firearm use as well. Also, when making a AOW, the base gun can never have had a stock attached so in our case we used Tac14's while all of the SBS's used standard stocked 870's.
Recoil is a little less than what you'd expect just because of the extra weight; I mean you are shooting two guns. The video below is firing reloaded 2 3/4" #7 1 1/8 oz. but high brass loads aren't terrible. You can also use a better stock/recoil pad too if you're not trying to clone something. VIDEO #1 HERE VIDEO #2 HERE |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 10:32:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey guys! Our guns are plug and play clones and are $1850. The first run is SBS only (for the reasons already stated above) but we will have a very limited number of AOW's for brace pistol/firearm use as well. Also, when making a AOW, the base gun can never have had a stock attached so in our case we used Tac14's while all of the SBS's used standard stocked 870's. Recoil is a little less than what you'd expect just because of the extra weight; I mean you are shooting two guns. The video below is firing reloaded 2 3/4" #7 1 1/8 oz. but high brass loads aren't terrible. You can also use a better stock/recoil pad too if you're not trying to clone something. VIDEO #1 HERE VIDEO #2 HERE Nice to see them available, I hope you sell lots of them! |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 10:50:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've wanted one for breaching for YEARS. V3 parts are... unobtanium, and high dollar when they are. Strange. Faster followup, but I have always been a little leery of semiautos. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Somebody should turn a Remington Tac13 into a MasterKey for funsies. I've wanted one for breaching for YEARS. V3 parts are... unobtanium, and high dollar when they are. Strange. Faster followup, but I have always been a little leery of semiautos. Why is it strange that parts for a shotgun no longer in production would be in short supply and expensive? |
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