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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:22:35 PM EST
Short back story first:  Five months ago a customer stole $1100 out of my wallet that I left on top of my desk. (small shop so no private office).  My wife always told me to NOT leave my wallet there but I know every customer and always felt safe doing it. It had to be one of two different customers as they were the only people in the shop that day. Fast forward to 15 minutes ago.

I own a small auto shop and I'm currently a one man band.  One of the above mentioned customers came in for a tire repair.  I took his keys and went outside to move a car and then bring his into the shop.  As I'm walking out the door something didn't sit right with me having him in the shop by himself. I quickly took a look in the bay door window and I see him in the top drawer of my desk looking at something.  His back was to the door and me so he'd have to turn around to see me looking at him.  I stormed in the shop to confront him he quickly dropped whatever was in his hand (I think my checkbook) and grabbed a pen and closed my drawer.  I threw his keys at him and told him to get out.  We exchanged words and I told him that I don't believe anything he's trying to tell me.

He only lives a block away and now I fear for the safety of my customers cars.  

My son and I are in a trap tournament tonight so I can't stay half the night to keep an eye on the place.

What's my best move GD?
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:24:38 PM EST
[#1]
Do you know any Koreans?
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:26:04 PM EST
[#2]
Shoot em all. You can't win unless you shoot em all.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:26:36 PM EST
[#3]
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:26:57 PM EST
[#4]
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:29:17 PM EST
[#5]
Get security cameras. Good ones.
Or pay off another junkie to take care of business.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:29:26 PM EST
[#6]
One possible solution: Don't sweat it.   You have fencing, lights,  alarms, and cameras everywhere.   Go do your thing.   Call the police if you get any alerts.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:29:27 PM EST
[#7]
Invest $500-$1000 in a quality 4k security camera system with NVR and remote viewing/notifications.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:31:23 PM EST
[#8]
Cams man
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:32:47 PM EST
[#9]
For tonight, call your po-po non emergency line, explain that you caught a now ex-customer trying to steal from you today, the guy got heated, and you would appreciate a drive by or two until he cools off.

Then invest in cameras, et al.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:33:23 PM EST
[#10]
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My son and I are in a trap tournament tonight so I can't stay half the night to keep an eye on the place.

What's my best move GD?
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If you dont have the aforementioned cameras and fencing and lighting, you could prioritize your business and customers and ditch the tournament, if you dont have ways of catching the guy or proving it was his fault damage or theft occured while you were gone. I wouldnt prioritize recreation over my business reputation or customer property
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:34:09 PM EST
[#11]
cameras?
tell the cops get that on the record?
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:34:12 PM EST
[#12]
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Short back story first:  Five months ago a customer stole $1100 out of my wallet that I left on top of my desk. (small shop so no private office).  My wife always told me to NOT leave my wallet there but I know every customer and always felt safe doing it. It had to be one of two different customers as they were the only people in the shop that day. Fast forward to 15 minutes ago.

I own a small auto shop and I'm currently a one man band.  One of the above mentioned customers came in for a tire repair.  I took his keys and went outside to move a car and then bring his into the shop.  As I'm walking out the door something didn't sit right with me having him in the shop by himself. I quickly took a look in the bay door window and I see him in the top drawer of my desk looking at something.  His back was to the door and me so he'd have to turn around to see me looking at him.  I stormed in the shop to confront him he quickly dropped whatever was in his hand (I think my checkbook) and grabbed a pen and closed my drawer.  I threw his keys at him and told him to get out.  We exchanged words and I told him that I don't believe anything he's trying to tell me.

He only lives a block away and now I fear for the safety of my customers cars.  

My son and I are in a trap tournament tonight so I can't stay half the night to keep an eye on the place.

What's my best move GD?
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Hmm, a totally voluntary and not important at all trap tournament, or protecting your livelihood.

Let's think about this for a second...
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:34:32 PM EST
[#13]
I can't believe you don't already have cameras. I'm one of the poors and I have them around my house.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:35:01 PM EST
[#14]
I'm not driving to NJ to handle something you should be able to do yourself, but I'd fuck the guy up for you for $1000...in Minecraft
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:35:09 PM EST
[#15]
You left $1100 laying around in an unsecured wallet?

Wow. I'm scared to walk around with that much money in my wallet in my pocket.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:35:33 PM EST
[#16]
You're in NJ, call Paulie Walnuts.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:35:34 PM EST
[#17]
You should have beat him with a breaker bar. Hopefully another opportunity presents itself.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:36:03 PM EST
[#18]
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Short back story first:  Five months ago a customer stole $1100 out of my wallet that I left on top of my desk. (small shop so no private office).  My wife always told me to NOT leave my wallet there but I know every customer and always felt safe doing it. It had to be one of two different customers as they were the only people in the shop that day. Fast forward to 15 minutes ago.

I own a small auto shop and I'm currently a one man band.  One of the above mentioned customers came in for a tire repair.  I took his keys and went outside to move a car and then bring his into the shop.  As I'm walking out the door something didn't sit right with me having him in the shop by himself. I quickly took a look in the bay door window and I see him in the top drawer of my desk looking at something.  His back was to the door and me so he'd have to turn around to see me looking at him.  I stormed in the shop to confront him he quickly dropped whatever was in his hand (I think my checkbook) and grabbed a pen and closed my drawer.  I threw his keys at him and told him to get out.  We exchanged words and I told him that I don't believe anything he's trying to tell me.

He only lives a block away and now I fear for the safety of my customers cars.  

My son and I are in a trap tournament tonight so I can't stay half the night to keep an eye on the place.

What's my best move GD?
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At least it wasn't your rotten asshole little sister stealing from you and then blaming it on your kids like mine did.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:36:18 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:37:07 PM EST
[#20]
I'd just lock the door like e ery other night.  And how about lock your office up.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:38:05 PM EST
[#21]
Extreme Strong Big Wood Chipper Shredder Modern Technology, Incredible Fastest Big Tree Shredder
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:38:34 PM EST
[#22]
Cameras.....for a couple hundred bucks the original theif would have been arrested with a possible Felony(unlikley after a plea)....but still protect's your investment.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:39:02 PM EST
[#23]
You have insurance to cover customer's property that's in your care and possession right?
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:39:05 PM EST
[#24]
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I'm 6'2", 215 lbs and he's 5'5" maybe 125 lbs.  This might be a good option
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:42:36 PM EST
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For tonight, call your po-po non emergency line, explain that you caught a now ex-customer trying to steal from you today, the guy got heated, and you would appreciate a drive by or two until he cools off.

Then invest in cameras, et al.
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I'm definitely doing that, Thanks!
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:45:06 PM EST
[#26]
Cameras.  Today.  
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:45:06 PM EST
[#27]
Did he make some threats or respond in a way that makes you think he’s going to come back and damage things? Or are you simply assuming that since he seems to be a thief, he must also be a vindictive vandal and/or arsonist, who is now bent on ruining your business?

Unless you’re leaving things out, I highly doubt he’ll want to be seen anywhere near your shop.

I’m willing to bet you’ve had customers way more likely to come back and damage things because they were pissed about a repair bill or a repair not done to their satisfaction, than that guy.

Unless the guy is way out there and off balance, you likely have nothing to worry about.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:49:26 PM EST
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Did he make some threats or respond in a way that makes you think he’s going to come back and damage things? Or are you simply assuming that since he seems to be a thief, he must also be a vindictive vandal and/or arsonist, who is now bent on ruining your business?

Unless you’re leaving things out, I highly doubt he’ll want to be seen anywhere near your shop.

I’m willing to bet you’ve had customers way more likely to come back and damage things because they were pissed about a repair bill or a repair not done to their satisfaction, than that guy.

Unless the guy is way out there and off balance, you likely have nothing to worry about.
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Everything you said does make me feel a little better.  No, he didn't make any threats but he's a young(ish) punk.  I don't know what he's capable of doing.

Many of you mentioned cameras - I REALLY need to get some.  I'm on a main road mixed with residential house on all of the side streets.  There is a lot of foot traffic so I think that deters people from fucking with businesses in the area.  None of us ever had a problem that I know of and I've been here 25 years.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:51:19 PM EST
[#29]
Sorry Op, dont mean to be the bearer of bad news, but you are in reactionary mode. Not good.

He's a thief of indeterminate tier level. He's probably already scoped you out. The whole "tire repair" thing may have a ruse to size you up. Its odd someone would just start rummaging thru your office desk, less he knows the way you do biz and knew your routine of going outside and leaving your desk/office unattended...

Did he make any threats?

You're probably going to want to write everything down while its fresh, his vehicle details, his description, etc in the event he decides not to lets words be words.

Next, you need to change things up if he's tracking on ya. Hours your there, lights, locks, visible & less visible cams, etc. but most especially, who you allow in your office and when its closed & locked. Get a shop dog, maybe two.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:52:06 PM EST
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Short back story first:  Five months ago a customer stole $1100 out of my wallet that I left on top of my desk. (small shop so no private office).  My wife always told me to NOT leave my wallet there but I know every customer and always felt safe doing it.
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I stopped reading there.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:52:11 PM EST
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Hmm, a totally voluntary and not important at all trap tournament, or protecting your livelihood.

Let's think about this for a second...
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Short back story first:  Five months ago a customer stole $1100 out of my wallet that I left on top of my desk. (small shop so no private office).  My wife always told me to NOT leave my wallet there but I know every customer and always felt safe doing it. It had to be one of two different customers as they were the only people in the shop that day. Fast forward to 15 minutes ago.

I own a small auto shop and I'm currently a one man band.  One of the above mentioned customers came in for a tire repair.  I took his keys and went outside to move a car and then bring his into the shop.  As I'm walking out the door something didn't sit right with me having him in the shop by himself. I quickly took a look in the bay door window and I see him in the top drawer of my desk looking at something.  His back was to the door and me so he'd have to turn around to see me looking at him.  I stormed in the shop to confront him he quickly dropped whatever was in his hand (I think my checkbook) and grabbed a pen and closed my drawer.  I threw his keys at him and told him to get out.  We exchanged words and I told him that I don't believe anything he's trying to tell me.

He only lives a block away and now I fear for the safety of my customers cars.  

My son and I are in a trap tournament tonight so I can't stay half the night to keep an eye on the place.

What's my best move GD?


Hmm, a totally voluntary and not important at all trap tournament, or protecting your livelihood.

Let's think about this for a second...


Trap is about as FUDD as it gets.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:52:14 PM EST
[#32]
You should have never let him walk out.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:52:40 PM EST
[#33]
First of all, you need to lock your shit up. Any desk should have a locking drawer.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:56:31 PM EST
[#34]
Guess you’ll be doing what the wife said.  I would say leaving a wallet out is careless..checkbook too.  Get a small box that can be secured.

Keep a tire iron handy.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 3:59:00 PM EST
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Trap is about as FUDD as it gets.
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<<< See username.  Trap is just a fun thing I do with my son.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:00:03 PM EST
[#36]
He’s not gonna do anything. He knows he was caught and is thanking his lucky stars that’s it. He will move on to the next crime that doesn’t involve you.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:01:38 PM EST
[#37]
OP needs to hire some roof koreans
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:02:17 PM EST
[#38]
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:05:40 PM EST
[#39]
I don't understand off body carry of wallets, guns, phones, keys, etc.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:08:37 PM EST
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I don't understand off body carry of wallets, guns, phones, keys, etc.
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Well for wallets

Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:09:11 PM EST
[#41]
You're from New Jersey, you should be teaching us about how to handle shit like that.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:12:02 PM EST
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You're from New Jersey, you should be teaching us about how to handle shit like that.
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Rumor has it that the mob buried a lot of bodies in the Pine Barrens.  What's one more?
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:12:15 PM EST
[#43]
The things we worry about seldom happen. The ones that do often don’t happen the way we thought they would.

Things like cameras can help but a lot of stuff like Ring indoor cam $60. Each.  On Amazon hooks to WiFi and powered by a lug in to 110 or a battery. About $10 a month to store to the cloud. These cameras don’t have very high resolution, but still show what happened w app on your phone. Camera placement is important. I bet someone here could suggest a really high resolution system. But anything is better than nothing cause even the Ring will let you access it from home to look at what’s going on.

Don’t keep lots of cash and your check book there. Put pens in a cup on the desk. Get a state or city job so you have retirement someday. City and DOT both hire mechanics.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:12:22 PM EST
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For tonight, call your po-po non emergency line, explain that you caught a now ex-customer trying to steal from you today, the guy got heated, and you would appreciate a drive by or two until he cools off.

Then invest in cameras, et al.
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Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:15:51 PM EST
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You're from New Jersey, you should be teaching us about how to handle shit like that.
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that's what I was thinking.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:17:11 PM EST
[#46]
Sucks for sure.  

Why do you believe this customer will now suddenly escalate his crimes?   Just because you caught him?
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:20:41 PM EST
[#47]
Insurance and cameras.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:24:28 PM EST
[#48]
You don't have cameras and you had the drop on him stealing from you for a second time and the guy is still walking around able-bodied??

"Well officer when I surprised him while he was stealing from me he attacked me but luckily I had this tire iron handy and was able to defend myself."
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:25:57 PM EST
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You're in NJ, call Paulie Walnuts.
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He died.
Link Posted: 2/3/2023 4:28:55 PM EST
[#50]
You have this on video right OP? You do have a camera recording in the office right? Right?

Police and show them the video, let nature takes it course.
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