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Posted: 6/4/2022 9:31:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/4/2022 9:32:33 PM EDT
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How much are you willing to pay? A good locksmith can take an impression of the keyway and make you one. I don't think it's cheap.
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Posted: 6/4/2022 9:32:42 PM EDT
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They seem to be pretty widely available.
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Posted: 6/4/2022 9:34:23 PM EDT
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 [1340] Why This Payphone Lock Gave Me Trouble… |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 9:35:17 PM EDT
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Maybe Look here
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Posted: 6/4/2022 9:41:34 PM EDT
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IIRC there's a standard key for the armor box visible on the outside, then a bunch of differently keyed locks for the coin box itself. When I was looking into a payphone I was just going to buy the armor box key and drill the coin box.
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Posted: 6/4/2022 9:44:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/4/2022 10:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know, mine came with a key  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/423847/28193B8C-C272-4D7A-B3AD-85ADCB02417B_jpe-2407884.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/423847/B0767D8B-AD5F-4F9F-B446-8378811ADD59_jpe-2407885.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/423847/5FBBF750-E936-4C7E-BE6A-71F1A5C30D99_jpe-2407892.JPG That's the T key to take the upper housing off. It still doesn't get you into the coin box. I worked pay phones for a short time in my GTE days and company security was very stingy with those coin box keys. I still had a set when I retired but I had to sign off on them when I left. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 10:12:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the T key to take the upper housing off. It still doesn't get you into the coin box. I worked pay phones for a short time in my GTE days and company security was very stingy with those coin box keys. I still had a set when I retired but I had to sign off on them when I retired. Haha I had no idea. I have only opened it once years ago when I got it, I forgot that mine didn’t even come with a coin box, it’s just empty inside. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 10:31:10 PM EDT
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I stole mine from work. It was going to be demolished anyway.
They have three keys. 1. T Bar (universal) 2. Cash box 3. Three slot housing key Key #2 I can't tell you anything about. My phones were decommissioned and the Telephone company pulled the cash boxes and left the locks and keys in the machine. You don't need a cash box to use a phone. Key #3 is a regional key. All phones in the Bell system were keyed alike by region. These keys can be bought on Ebay occasionally. You need Key #1 and Key#3 to open the phone and mount it on a wall. I have drilled out the housing lock and it was a bitch. If you get a phone, find out where it came from. You may also be able to read the lock through a screw hole on the back of the housing. The people I've seen selling payphones usually have a bunch of them on hand for a reason. They're cool, but not a lot of folks are looking to shell out money on them. Keys would make a deal much better. Hooking it up to a POTS line was easy as well. I don't know if a VoIP line will work. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 10:38:00 PM EDT
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Friend of mine was offered a complete payphone recently and was quoted $500 to rekey the coin box.
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Posted: 6/4/2022 10:48:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Friend of mine was offered a complete payphone recently and was quoted $500 to rekey the coin box.  I think I paid $10 for my T-bar and paid under $40 for a replacement lock and key. I can now open all New Jersey payphones. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:02:43 PM EDT
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Also, most payphones were ground start. You may be able to wire around that and the coin switches and use it like a normal phone. VOIP may be another can of worms though.
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:07:51 PM EDT
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Have one in my rec-room. I have it wired up to a VOIP adapter and programmed the server to have Bart Simpson prank call it every so often. And it makes and receives calls too.
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:32:59 PM EDT
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Thanks fellas. I'll have to do more research. Think there's plenty of VOIP dial tone adapters I can wire it to, I dunno if the coin lock will work or not.
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:51:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/4/2022 11:58:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, most payphones were ground start. You may be able to wire around that and the coin switches and use it like a normal phone. VOIP may be another can of worms though. IMO you wire for pots and work from there. ETA- that being because I already have an installed base of fun old pots phones and already natively support that shit. 
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Posted: 6/5/2022 12:18:08 AM EDT
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Patton makes a SIP to POTS adaptor that will do FXO.
I think Asterisk(?) actually has a 5ees payphone emulator plugin Former boss had one wired into his game room. It took quarters and did the "Please insert Twenty Fiev cents!" bell operator voice perfectly. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 12:20:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have one in my rec-room. I have it wired up to a VOIP adapter and programmed the server to have Bart Simpson prank call it every so often. And it makes and receives calls too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54122/IMG_20211227_161717-2218851.jpg Dude, that's awesome.
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Posted: 6/5/2022 12:21:53 AM EDT
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Remember when you could unscrew the lower "talk part" and short it to get a free call?
 I have nothing to add to this thread except memories of a happier times. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 12:23:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have one in my rec-room. I have it wired up to a VOIP adapter and programmed the server to have Bart Simpson prank call it every so often. And it makes and receives calls too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54122/IMG_20211227_161717-2218851.jpg 
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Posted: 6/5/2022 12:27:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have one in my rec-room. I have it wired up to a VOIP adapter and programmed the server to have Bart Simpson prank call it every so often. And it makes and receives calls too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54122/IMG_20211227_161717-2218851.jpg "programmed the server to have Bart Simpson prank call it every so often"  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 12:28:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Patton makes a SIP to POTS adaptor that will do FXO. I think Asterisk(?) actually has a 5ees payphone emulator plugin Former boss had one wired into his game room. It took quarters and did the "Please insert Twenty Fiev cents!" bell operator voice perfectly. That's pretty cool. The website linked above has refurbished phones w/ keys & warranty for just over $300, and you can have em programmed for local & long distance. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 12:40:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when you could unscrew the lower "talk part" and short it to get a free call? I have nothing to add to this thread except memories of a happier times.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 12:42:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/5/2022 12:42:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Remember when you could unscrew the lower "talk part" and short it to get a free call? I have nothing to add to this thread except memories of a happier times. Lol We had one in front of my Catholic school. That's what we did. Funny... I learn some fun things in Catholic school. 
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Posted: 6/5/2022 2:12:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when you could unscrew the lower "talk part" and short it to get a free call? I have nothing to add to this thread except memories of a happier times. That's why we started gluing them on. We found a phone in a college dorm that had a quarter with a piece of string on it tied to the phone. They would drop the quarter, trip the coin switches, then pull the quarter back out. We pulled the phone out after that. For some reason I thought of one of these when he said he wanted a pay phone. https://www.ebay.com/itm/304469763149?hash=item46e3cfe44d:g:PXsAAOSwQGJibqq1&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA0KQGWXBKIdcYiXRszTN3IhXYHr94mNXzzUy2gnBzyRXWQ428cafFD9szKZ8KS9%2FoI4OPwvnLjB3vkhNke6tolfmIxPYD1PzzJ3MUzaw%2FhRbHTspD4uFC1ICISIoVQE8HwrNaedaTwY3oCTjllFxxP2yCzLUu8bMbnPBDmjUSnUz3LrYlwk6OpoQp46flzxBmAyUDgfHuBiSAgebwghXZJ6xp3MhhmANNkXls2ADX%2FxxYRS3wJzAeEHesTCvZMwtWOjbmU6szFtlPrtMOj%2Bc6cUM%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMgs-z0aZg |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 2:18:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have one in my rec-room. I have it wired up to a VOIP adapter and programmed the server to have Bart Simpson prank call it every so often. And it makes and receives calls too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54122/IMG_20211227_161717-2218851.jpg 
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Posted: 6/5/2022 2:22:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's why we started gluing them on. Yep, and then we started ripping the voice modules out of noisy greeting cards, flashing the sound of a quarter dropping (the five nickel tones), and playing it into the handset to simulate dropping coins. Then y'all grounded the speakers out until the call was placed. That happened quick too, I was impressed. We'd just send the junk that didn't work to friends and family down south though, Southern Bell damn near ran mechanical switches til the turn of the century. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 2:24:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the T key to take the upper housing off. It still doesn't get you into the coin box. I worked pay phones for a short time in my GTE days and company security was very stingy with those coin box keys. I still had a set when I retired but I had to sign off on them when I left. Won't the t-key get the armor off the coin box too? |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 2:31:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much are you willing to pay? A good locksmith can take an impression of the keyway and make you one. I don't think it's cheap. A good locksmith would probably just pick it and then recore it |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 3:05:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's why we started gluing them on. We found a phone in a college dorm that had a quarter with a piece of string on it tied to the phone. They would drop the quarter, trip the coin switches, then pull the quarter back out. We pulled the phone out after that. For some reason I thought of one of these when he said he wanted a pay phone. https://www.ebay.com/itm/304469763149?hash=item46e3cfe44d:g:PXsAAOSwQGJibqq1&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA0KQGWXBKIdcYiXRszTN3IhXYHr94mNXzzUy2gnBzyRXWQ428cafFD9szKZ8KS9%2FoI4OPwvnLjB3vkhNke6tolfmIxPYD1PzzJ3MUzaw%2FhRbHTspD4uFC1ICISIoVQE8HwrNaedaTwY3oCTjllFxxP2yCzLUu8bMbnPBDmjUSnUz3LrYlwk6OpoQp46flzxBmAyUDgfHuBiSAgebwghXZJ6xp3MhhmANNkXls2ADX%2FxxYRS3wJzAeEHesTCvZMwtWOjbmU6szFtlPrtMOj%2Bc6cUM%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMgs-z0aZg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Remember when you could unscrew the lower "talk part" and short it to get a free call? I have nothing to add to this thread except memories of a happier times. That's why we started gluing them on. We found a phone in a college dorm that had a quarter with a piece of string on it tied to the phone. They would drop the quarter, trip the coin switches, then pull the quarter back out. We pulled the phone out after that. For some reason I thought of one of these when he said he wanted a pay phone. https://www.ebay.com/itm/304469763149?hash=item46e3cfe44d:g:PXsAAOSwQGJibqq1&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA0KQGWXBKIdcYiXRszTN3IhXYHr94mNXzzUy2gnBzyRXWQ428cafFD9szKZ8KS9%2FoI4OPwvnLjB3vkhNke6tolfmIxPYD1PzzJ3MUzaw%2FhRbHTspD4uFC1ICISIoVQE8HwrNaedaTwY3oCTjllFxxP2yCzLUu8bMbnPBDmjUSnUz3LrYlwk6OpoQp46flzxBmAyUDgfHuBiSAgebwghXZJ6xp3MhhmANNkXls2ADX%2FxxYRS3wJzAeEHesTCvZMwtWOjbmU6szFtlPrtMOj%2Bc6cUM%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMgs-z0aZg That leashed coin shit really works? Always heard the concept mentioned as a joke but didn't think it would actually work. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 3:07:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have one in my rec-room. I have it wired up to a VOIP adapter and programmed the server to have Bart Simpson prank call it every so often. And it makes and receives calls too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54122/IMG_20211227_161717-2218851.jpg |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 3:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, and then we started ripping the voice modules out of noisy greeting cards, flashing the sound of a quarter dropping (the five nickel tones), and playing it into the handset to simulate dropping coins. Then y'all grounded the speakers out until the call was placed. That happened quick too, I was impressed. We'd just send the junk that didn't work to friends and family down south though, Southern Bell damn near ran mechanical switches til the turn of the century. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's why we started gluing them on. Yep, and then we started ripping the voice modules out of noisy greeting cards, flashing the sound of a quarter dropping (the five nickel tones), and playing it into the handset to simulate dropping coins. Then y'all grounded the speakers out until the call was placed. That happened quick too, I was impressed. We'd just send the junk that didn't work to friends and family down south though, Southern Bell damn near ran mechanical switches til the turn of the century. When I was at Basic Training a few soldiers figured out that you could buy a cheap, low minute prepaid calling card, make a call, tell the person yoy called to wait a minute, use the same card to make a call on the next phone, hang up the second call, and talk as long as you wanted on your first call. A 15 minute card would last for hours that way. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 3:09:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is the website that I needed. Thank you. Yup, payphone.com will have what you need. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 3:12:12 PM EDT
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If you put a Portel board in her like a 310 7000 or even better a 7000c I can
program it for you and have it work like a regular payphone. If you use a 7000c board it does not use any batteries so it will not lose it programming. Drilling out a payphone is easy. I have done a few over the years. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 3:15:39 PM EDT
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Woops..
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Posted: 6/5/2022 3:17:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe Look here They even have a payphone gunsafe. And the picture shows a TEC9 in it... baller!!!  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 3:21:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's why we started gluing them on. We found a phone in a college dorm that had a quarter with a piece of string on it tied to the phone. They would drop the quarter, trip the coin switches, then pull the quarter back out. We pulled the phone out after that. For some reason I thought of one of these when he said he wanted a pay phone. https://www.ebay.com/itm/304469763149?hash=item46e3cfe44d:g:PXsAAOSwQGJibqq1&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA0KQGWXBKIdcYiXRszTN3IhXYHr94mNXzzUy2gnBzyRXWQ428cafFD9szKZ8KS9%2FoI4OPwvnLjB3vkhNke6tolfmIxPYD1PzzJ3MUzaw%2FhRbHTspD4uFC1ICISIoVQE8HwrNaedaTwY3oCTjllFxxP2yCzLUu8bMbnPBDmjUSnUz3LrYlwk6OpoQp46flzxBmAyUDgfHuBiSAgebwghXZJ6xp3MhhmANNkXls2ADX%2FxxYRS3wJzAeEHesTCvZMwtWOjbmU6szFtlPrtMOj%2Bc6cUM%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMgs-z0aZg Nah. Might do a rotary though, if I could find a working one. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 3:52:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That leashed coin shit really works? Always heard the concept mentioned as a joke but didn't think it would actually work. The biggest problem was it would get hung up in the coin triggers and they would lose the coin or bend the triggers and it wouldn't take coins anymore. More trouble than it was worth probably. Slugs were a problem as well as foreign coins. GTE security would place coins in odd spots inside the housing as a test of honesty. They had to be turned in in a special envelope along with the coin box. They were marked with a UV dye so we would use a pair of needle-nose pliers to handle them. They did not mess around when it came to "their" money.
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Posted: 6/5/2022 7:36:29 PM EDT
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Cannot answer any of OP's questions. But I remember in high school a friend dad worked for a phone company and had a special number you would type in before the number you want to dial and the call was free anywhere and anyphone. We had a great time pranking people on our lunch break. Eventually the school got enough complaints they removed the phone. Oops.
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Posted: 6/5/2022 7:39:53 PM EDT
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Contact the lock picking lawyer. He can probably tell you how to pick it.
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Posted: 6/7/2022 10:17:24 PM EDT
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Figured I'd post a short video. The soft audio is due to holding the payphone receiver up to the mic. In this video Homer prank calls the phone. Its one of the better ones IMHO but I have about a dozen random prank calls made up of Bart and other characters calling Moe's tavern. I also have various phone numbers used in the Simpsons programmed in to do various things as well as other numbers such as 867-5309. All the scripts wait for the end-user to react and say something before continuing the script.
 Recroom Simpsons Payphone |
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