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Originally Posted By drfroglegs: Zebra M301 is my favorite. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/322543/20240312_110133_jpg-3157008.JPG View Quote These are a very good value. I keep several in the console as a backup to the pentels. |
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Originally Posted By Sailboat: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_9337-3157012.pngI can't stand you poors. This is what I have. View Quote Then why did you screen shot it vs take a picture in your perfectly manicured hand? |
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Darren was here.
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I used Berol wooden, silver "Blueprint" pencils for layout work on steel when I did welding fabrication. They were the midpoint in precision between a soapstone and a scribe on Dychem.
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Don't piss off old people. The older we get, the less "Life in Prison" is a deterrent.
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4 of the items I use daily:
Pentel P207, Pentel Click Erase, Unibal 207 gel pen, Roaring Spring engineering notebook - spiral bound. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By freeride21a: And dont forget about the OG best eraser! clic eraser! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21179/s-l1600__1__jpg-3156860.JPG cleaning pad and brush too!! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21179/cleaingpad_JPG-3156861.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21179/brush_JPG-3156862.JPG View Quote I've used all of those. I used mainly Staedtler Mars and Eberhard Faber lead holders for drafting. Most of my mechanical pencils were Pentel but I like pilot as well. |
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Originally Posted By Morgan321: If you don’t use actual 2mm drafting pencils you’re a slack jawed faggot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335009/IMG_0016_jpeg-3157013.JPG View Quote I was scrolling for this! Also...recently got some... Blackwings |
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Originally Posted By -Obsessed-: Then why did you screen shot it vs take a picture in your perfectly manicured hand? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By -Obsessed-: Originally Posted By Sailboat: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_9337-3157012.pngI can't stand you poors. This is what I have. Then why did you screen shot it vs take a picture in your perfectly manicured hand? Because of security: I could not find a place to take picture where my super model wife, perfect kids, exotic cars, private jets and yacht were not in the background. I try to stay private. @-Obsessed- |
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I wonder if some of these edge lords ever give thought to what judgement will be passed on them when their day comes? Probably won't be, "Well that guy was an asshole but he sure could vote so that excuses everything". - Bluedsteel
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My favorite(admittedly haven’t tried the one in the OP tho), the Uni Kuru Toga Roulette.
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Skilcraft American Classic.
"Created with pride by Americans who are Blind". Literally says it on the box. If a blind person can appreciate a writing instrument, then who am I to argue. I use them everyday and they are awesome. |
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the ohto super pro mecha 1503s is better.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ohto-super-promecha-pm-1503s-3-mm-102370875 you can adjust how much lead progresses by a twist knob. the old one that i have, which seems discontinued also has a sleeve adjuster. there's a dial near the tip that adjusts how much of the lead sleeve protrudes. if you have slots from measuring devices, you can extend it to make marks, but retract it to make it more centered to your hand when writing normally. the reason i like the sleeve adjuster is that small leads eventually can't be held. at 1 cm the lead isn't long enough to make it from the clamp to the end of the pencil, and most people simply throw it away and change to a new one. however, by moving the lead sleeve to almost adjacent the clamp, i can feed the next lead behind my current piece of lead. i'll know i'm on my last cm because the lead no longer rotates with the pencil. normally, pencil lead will rotate with the clamp. this way, only until the last 1mm is lost as it explodes spectacularly on to my paper, when the sleeve is holding too little and the force of paper torques the last 1mm out. |
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Originally Posted By Keekleberrys: They are not all .3mm. Behold. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12422/IMG_1682-3156840.jpg View Quote Those look similar to my Koh-i-noor Rapidomatics. Two of which are 0.3's. |
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This is the greatest mechanical pencil, and I cannot locate another one like it....the body is metal, not plastic.
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If you can't take the high road, occupy the high ground.
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Originally Posted By VACaver: I still use my Pentel that I bought in 1979. Can't beat it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/100647/Pentel_jpeg-3156966.JPG View Quote Pentels work great for rewinding cassette tapes. |
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The pencil is the tool of the mind. Clear writing is evidence of clear thinking.
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Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.
General education should not be mere job training, but training in how to be fully human. |
Nope. Have had this one since high school. It’s gone through Engineering school, MBA school, three different employers, been in two Space Shuttles, who knows how many other aircraft, and all continents but Africa and Antarctica.
I present you a 1993-ish model, Pentel P205. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Keekleberrys: They are not all .3mm. Behold. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12422/IMG_1682-3156840.jpg View Quote No electric eraser, no care. |
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Originally Posted By KiloBravo: Nope. Have had this one since high school. It's gone through Engineering school, MBA school, three different employers, been in two Space Shuttles, who knows how many other aircraft, and all continents but Africa and Antarctica. I present you a 1993-ish model, Pentel P205. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129152/IMG_3199_jpeg-3157078.JPG View Quote we can be friends i started using those in the mid 80's and initially liked them because the knurling looked like M16A2 handguards |
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Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.
General education should not be mere job training, but training in how to be fully human. |
Originally Posted By 77Bronc: @lazyengineer knows his shit and if he lived around me he would get a bottle of good bourbon from me. The Pilot Vanishing point IS THE BEST mechanical pencil ever made. I had some in college and they disappeared. I want to get another one but they are going for over $100 on eBay. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 77Bronc: Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Neat - but I'm not a professional draftsman. For general purpose that you can put in your pocket and that won't tear through common and uncommon thin paper, .5mm is more general. For me: https://davesmechanicalpencils.blogspot.com/2006/08/pilot-vanishing-point-h1005-mechanical.html?m=1 https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5470/2195/400/100_0779.jpg @lazyengineer knows his shit and if he lived around me he would get a bottle of good bourbon from me. The Pilot Vanishing point IS THE BEST mechanical pencil ever made. I had some in college and they disappeared. I want to get another one but they are going for over $100 on eBay. I totally need to get back to some Atchafalaya country then! FWIW, I'm running this one now. Not nearly as good as the pilot and the shirt-clip isn't right, but it's the closest you can readily get today. It's not bad https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000GAU2RU?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title |
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Originally Posted By -CUJO-: This. Interesting that your picture shows a blue .5mm. I thought those were .7mm and the black ones were .5mm? I prefer the .7mm myself. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By -CUJO-: Originally Posted By VACaver: I still use my Pentel that I bought in 1979. Can't beat it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/100647/Pentel_jpeg-3156966.JPG This. Interesting that your picture shows a blue .5mm. I thought those were .7mm and the black ones were .5mm? I prefer the .7mm myself. You are correct. My blue is a .7mm That picture is from the Walmart website. I have no idea why it's a blue .5mm. |
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P209 at my desk and all the other sizes and some in red/blue.
PG1017 in my pocket. |
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Originally Posted By deadmau5er: Imagine not using fine tip Sharpies for your writing needs. View Quote Ultrafine! Attached File |
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Originally Posted By brandon_: I started with a red but will probably try a yellow after I lose the first one. Peak performance. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/247800/1000003652_png-3156886.JPG View Quote That's all I ever tried. We have pencils around the house for the kids but we don't write much in our day to day. |
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Originally Posted By Keekleberrys: The Berol Rapidesign. Made in Japan. The Berol Rapidesign Mechanical 0.3mm Pencil stands as a marvel of precision and durability, beloved by architects, engineers, and artists alike for its meticulous detail and reliable performance. This pencil's slender 0.3mm lead allows for exceptionally fine lines, making it an indispensable tool for drafting, technical drawing, and intricate sketching where accuracy is paramount. Its robust construction ensures a comfortable, steady grip, enhancing control and reducing fatigue during prolonged use. Furthermore, the Berol Rapidesign's mechanical nature means a constant sharp point without the need for sharpening, ensuring uninterrupted workflow and a consistent line quality that professionals demand. With its blend of precision engineering and ease of use, the Berol Rapidesign Mechanical 0.3mm Pencil embodies the pinnacle of drafting pencil design, earning its place as a wonder in the realms of design and illustration tools. View Quote View Quote laughs in Pentel P205, I've been using the same one since 1985 |
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Man oh man. You guys that still have 40 year old pentel P205s must have kept them extra safe in your pocket protectors. I bet you still like the ammonia fumes from the blueprint machines too.
I use the pentel champ throwaways so I don't have to get upset when i break or lose one. |
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Every career politician in Washington is a lying self-serving piece of dog shit.
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Originally Posted By Keekleberrys: They are not all .3mm. Behold. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12422/IMG_1682-3156840.jpg View Quote I also love my Pentel P205's and Alvin Draft/Matic's. |
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer: FWIW, I'm running this one now. Not nearly as good as the pilot and the shirt-clip isn't right, but it's the closest you can readily get today. It's not bad https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000GAU2RU?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81PUeoeffCL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_FMwebp_.jpg View Quote I took the rubber out of my GG1000 pencils. Makes them feel a lot more solid and precise between the fingers. |
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https://xkcd.com/1732/
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Originally Posted By MADMAXXX: This ^ The only pencil a man uses looks like this. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/522423/96927_Carpenters_Pencil_HARD_2514eb02-03-3157105.jpg View Quote Attached File Real men get splinters in their hands not paper cuts , this is my pencil of choice as well they last forever. |
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Nobody else draws in pencil?
I thought sketching would be common hobby here. Trying to do something in ink first time is above my drawing skills, though I do use pen and ink (dip pen) to finalize and erase pencil sometimes, most everything from watercolor to oils has at least one pencil/carbon/graphite stage. |
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
My grandfather was a draftsman back in the 50's through the 80's. I have his pencils and sharpener, they didn't use those tiny leads, it was a stout 3/32ish sized graphite and it used a special sharpener to get it to a needle point.
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People actually use paper nowadays?
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"The two things men never get to old to play with, electric trains and boobies." - substandard
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." - Mark Twain |
Originally Posted By Morgan321: If you don’t use actual 2mm drafting pencils you’re a slack jawed faggot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335009/IMG_0016_jpeg-3157013.JPG View Quote Oh yeah! Attached File And a partial family photo - stuff from my office: Attached File |
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https://xkcd.com/1732/
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Originally Posted By freeride21a: And dont forget about the OG best eraser! clic eraser! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21179/s-l1600__1__jpg-3156860.JPG cleaning pad and brush too!! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21179/cleaingpad_JPG-3156861.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21179/brush_JPG-3156862.JPG View Quote My uncle gave me a bunch of drafting stuff. In the lot of stuff was an ELECTRIC eraser those long white sticks fit in. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By MRW: Pentel P209 0.9mm is best mm https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/5205/IMG_0723_JPG-275770.jpg View Quote All I have ever used is the Pentel P series. So light and not all midcap in the gripzone. |
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Originally Posted By Keekleberrys: complete trash! is the lead spring loaded and cushy? View Quote I was going to ask this question. I've been snapping off lead like crazy. What's a .5mm mechanical pencil with a useful eraser that has a cushion tip? I've been using the plastic Papermate Clearpoint pencils but they don't last. I get a few months out of them before they crap out. They do have cusion tips and a big fat eraser that lasts a long time. |
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I have several of those, but no way I'd use 0.3 lead.
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Originally Posted By smokie: My grandfather was a draftsman back in the 50's through the 80's. I have his pencils and sharpener, they didn't use those tiny leads, it was a stout 3/32ish sized graphite and it used a special sharpener to get it to a needle point. View Quote 2mm lead holder, also called a technical pencil, clutch pencil. The sharpener is called a "lead pointer". I love them. They used to use them a lot because those pointers could get that lead super sharp with hard leads on pointer's grinders and not have to shave wood. Good stuff. |
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Originally Posted By opnblstr: Oh yeah! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/186713/IMG_7639_jpg-3157197.JPG And a partial family photo - stuff from my office: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/186713/IMG_7641_jpg-3157199.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By opnblstr: Originally Posted By Morgan321: If you don't use actual 2mm drafting pencils you're a slack jawed faggot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335009/IMG_0016_jpeg-3157013.JPG Oh yeah! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/186713/IMG_7639_jpg-3157197.JPG And a partial family photo - stuff from my office: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/186713/IMG_7641_jpg-3157199.JPG |
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