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NJ, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:46:40 PM EDT
Just read it over on free citizen press. Iran claims they have nuclear weapons.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:47:03 PM EDT
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In on this disaster
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:47:14 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks Obama
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:47:51 PM EDT
[#3]
We (Obama/Biden) funded this with our taxes and printing.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:48:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK: We (Obama/Biden) funded this with our taxes and printing. Pallets of cash |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:50:42 PM EDT
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North Korean tests were a joint venture…
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:54:49 PM EDT
[#6]
They probably have had for a while now. Something was about to break to confirm it. The Iranians didn't want someone else stealing their thunder.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:54:51 PM EDT
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We'll see what Israel does about it.
Kharn |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:56:10 PM EDT
[#8]
Did Putin nuke us also? I don’t get out much.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 5:58:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NwG: North Korean tests were a joint venture… Yep, as well as the BM tests. Russia may have given a little support, China sure AF didn't. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:03:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AJ_Dual]
[#10]
The problem is not the nukes themselves. Yes, they're a "big problem" as everything going goat-rodeo with a third-rate shit-tier nation is a perpetual possibility.
Although, arguably, we're getting into that situation with Russia & their 5000-odd weapons too... But Iran isn't 100% gung-ho with a bunch of truck-bomber suicide gumption to just "use them." The larger problem is that Iran wants MAD or close enough to it, that they can poke, prod, and stir the Middle East shitpot perpetually with insurgency, civil wars, & terrorism, and the occasional Naval fuckery holding shipping in the Straits of Hormouz hostage... And not worry about the US, Europe, West etc. getting fed up enough to invade and regime-change Iran. And the Revolutionary Government wants a constant state of external crisis they provoke with proxies like the Houthi, Syria, or Hamas in Haza, or directly, like messing with shipping, so they can stay in power internally. Because they have never actually had a majority, or even a plurality mandate of the Iranian people. When everyone got pissed off at the Shah, a huge chunk of the protests were relatively secular and reform-minded. The Islamic Revolution was just actually poised and organized to ride the wave, take over the US Embassy, and get military control. But, they aren't "popular." And the past year's protests exemplify this. So, the Revolutionary Government needs to poke, prod, and stir even harder. Because protesting and attempting to overthrow the government is extra treasonous when there's a war, or about to be one any second... |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:05:13 PM EDT
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From the article Fox news: Iran says big-mouthed lawmaker seems depressed, may be suicidal
"In my opinion, we have achieved nuclear weapons, but we do not announce it. It means our policy is to possess nuclear bombs, but our declared policy is currently within the framework of the JCPOA," Ahmad Bakhshayesh Ardestani told the Iran-based outlet Rouydad 24 on Friday, according to an article published by the independent news organization Iran International in London." "Experts on Iran’s illegal nuclear weapons program warned about the seemingly speculative comments made by Ardestani. Jason Brodsky, the policy director of the U.S.-based United Against a Nuclear Iran, told Fox News Digital that "Ardestani is only a member of parliament, and he’s not in the inner core of the regime’s nuclear decision-making circle, so while his comments are interesting, I think they have to be weighed properly given his access and standing." |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:05:30 PM EDT
[#12]
The probably bought them from Israel.
Profit Uber Alles! 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:05:48 PM EDT
[#13]
Good, let them spend billions on weapons they can never use.
The maintenance and downstream costs of nukes is much higher than most people understand. If they ever used a nuke, Iran would cease to exist. Sure, they could kill a few US Cities, but they would cease to exist as a nation state and their neighbors would gladly pick clean their few remaining border towns. 18Z50 |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:07:21 PM EDT
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Now is GD finally ready to admit that Bush was an idiot and taking out Iraq was a terrible mistake? They were the one counterweight against Iran and now they're nothing.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:08:29 PM EDT
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How many celebration pallets do we dump off?
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:08:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30: Good, let them spend billions on weapons they can never use. The maintenance and downstream costs of nukes is much higher than most people understand. If they ever used a nuke, Iran would cease to exist. Sure, they could kill a few US Cities, but they would cease to exist as a nation state and their neighbors would gladly pick clean their few remaining border towns. 18Z50 Assuming they give a flying fuck about non-proliferation, upkeep, security....... |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:09:20 PM EDT
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Kind of assumed they already did. Not really even news.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:10:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:10:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: We'll see what Israel does about it. Kharn What can they do? With conventional weapons? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:13:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30: Good, let them spend billions on weapons they can never use. The maintenance and downstream costs of nukes is much higher than most people understand. If they ever used a nuke, Iran would cease to exist. Sure, they could kill a few US Cities, but they would cease to exist as a nation state and their neighbors would gladly pick clean their few remaining border towns. 18Z50 You seem to be under the assumption that Iran's government and population are motivated by goals that include long-term economic growth and continued prosperity for their people, along with an ever-increasing quality of life. I don't think they necessarily want any of those things in the ways that we do. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:14:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: Yep, as well as the BM tests. Russia may have given a little support, China sure AF didn't. Most don't understand that the biggest "target" for the DPRK's nukes is China, and it's essentially a two-tier threat to hold them hostage as the DPRK's benefactor: 1. Don't piss us off, or push us too hard as our only "friend," or we might set off a massive shitshow you absolutely don't want. 2. Piss us off badly enough, like... completely abandon & undermine us, attempting to throw us to the West and the ROK for reunification, because it looks good, got you something else you want, and it sandbags the ROK economy, the nukes are for YOU Xi, and aimed at Beijing... As to Iran, until there's actually seismic test data... it's indeed 99% sure it's just this loose cannon in their puppet legislature mouthing off for whatever benefit he thinks it gets him. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:16:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CTM1]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJ_Dual: The problem is not the nukes themselves. Yes, they're a "big problem" as everything going goat-rodeo with a third-rate shit-tier nation is a perpetual possibility. Although, arguably, we're getting into that situation with Russia & their 5000-odd weapons too... But Iran isn't 100% gung-ho with a bunch of truck-bomber suicide gumption to just "use them." The larger problem is that Iran wants MAD or close enough to it, that they can poke, prod, and stir the Middle East shitpot perpetually with insurgency, civil wars, & terrorism, and the occasional Naval fuckery holding shipping in the Straits of Hormouz hostage... And not worry about the US, Europe, West etc. getting fed up enough to invade and regime-change Iran. And the Revolutionary Government wants a constant state of external crisis they provoke with proxies like the Houthi, Syria, or Hamas in Haza, or directly, like messing with shipping, so they can stay in power internally. Because they have never actually had a majority, or even a plurality mandate of the Iranian people. When everyone got pissed off at the Shah, a huge chunk of the protests were relatively secular and reform-minded. The Islamic Revolution was just actually poised and organized to ride the wave, take over the US Embassy, and get military control. But, they aren't "popular." And the past year's protests exemplify this. So, the Revolutionary Government needs to poke, prod, and stir even harder. Because protesting and attempting to overthrow the government is extra treasonous when there's a war, or about to be one any second... I agree, one Iran is a nuclear power it will be hands off unless they are wiped off the earth in a single strike. ETA Waiting for seismic detectors to go off to confirm. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:17:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30: Good, let them spend billions on weapons they can never use. The maintenance and downstream costs of nukes is much higher than most people understand. If they ever used a nuke, Iran would cease to exist. Sure, they could kill a few US Cities, but they would cease to exist as a nation state and their neighbors would gladly pick clean their few remaining border towns. 18Z50 Why do you think they could never use them? The Newcomers could have brought a few in with them. 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:17:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: We'll see what Israel does about it. Kharn ....or is already doing about it. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:20:29 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: We'll see what Israel does about it. Kharn Ya heard! |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:21:57 PM EDT
[#26]
For the TL/DR crowd...this wasn't an announcement, it came from a yappy dog in the Iranian Parliament who has no inner-circle access. Possible it's true, but should be taken with a grain of salt.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:22:22 PM EDT
[#27]
I predict they won't test it until November 6th. The day after the presidential election.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:26:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bat15: Why do you think they could never use them? The Newcomers could have brought a few in with them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bat15: Originally Posted By 18B30: Good, let them spend billions on weapons they can never use. The maintenance and downstream costs of nukes is much higher than most people understand. If they ever used a nuke, Iran would cease to exist. Sure, they could kill a few US Cities, but they would cease to exist as a nation state and their neighbors would gladly pick clean their few remaining border towns. 18Z50 Why do you think they could never use them? The Newcomers could have brought a few in with them. My brother is married to an Iranian. Her family is iinfluential in current Iranian politics. Don’t confuse the IRG with the Iranian masses. Many Iranians are pissed that the Theocracy is pissing away their children’s future with the forever war. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:31:29 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: Now is GD finally ready to admit that Bush was an idiot and taking out Iraq was a terrible mistake? They were the one counterweight against Iran and now they're nothing. I thought we had been admitting that for a long time? If it helps, though, GWB is a fucking idiot. A liberal fucking idiot. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:32:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bat15: Why do you think they could never use them? The Newcomers could have brought a few in with them. It's not as simple as in the movies |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:35:18 PM EDT
[#31]
Putin gave Iran the necessary info or actually gave them nukes in exchange for help in Ukraine!
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:36:43 PM EDT
[#32]
Oh well
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:37:44 PM EDT
[#33]
Originally Posted By NwG: North Korean tests were a joint venture… This Originally Posted By 50cal: They probably have had for a while now. Something was about to break to confirm it. The Iranians didn't want someone else stealing their thunder. This Originally Posted By Kharn: We'll see what Israel does about it. Kharn And this |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:38:34 PM EDT
[#34]
Listen fat, they have had nukes for many years.
They were buying enriched materials before the ink dried on the last agreement. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:38:48 PM EDT
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Not even surprised.
I wonder who they would attack? Death to Israel! Death to America! Crowd! Israel won't put up with. Biden will roll over and take it. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:39:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sporter]
[#36]
Already had them.
If a country can build ballistic guided missiles, they'll have no issue building nukes. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:39:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: For the TL/DR crowd...this wasn't an announcement, it came from a yappy dog in the Iranian Parliament who has no inner-circle access. Possible it's true, but should be taken with a grain of salt. The North Korean launch which "accidentally" triggered a "false alarm" in Hawaii was Chinese based and backed. Iran isn't working alone either. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:40:05 PM EDT
[#38]
Yeah, not a shocker.
I’m still skeptical. Israel would be all over this if nukes meant capability of using a nuclear weapon against another country. but yeah, Iran is in on nuclear weapons and has been for a long time. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:44:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30: My brother is married to an Iranian. Her family is iinfluential in current Iranian politics. Don’t confuse the IRG with the Iranian masses. Many Iranians are pissed that the Theocracy is pissing away their children’s future with the forever war. so they're just like us...huh...almost like we used to be allies or something. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:46:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30: Good, let them spend billions on weapons they can never use. If they ever used a nuke, Iran would cease to exist. No. Biden would not nuke Iran after they use a nuke on Israel. His administration and the corrupt media would simply say "We don't know who did it". Just like they say they don't know China released Covid from a lab. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:46:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: We'll see what Israel does about it. Kharn |
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USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:48:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FireMissionDivision]
[#42]
"Iran claims" and "some Iranian guy claims" are not the same thing. The phrase "In my opinion" right before the claim is kinda important too.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:49:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sprtpilot: No. Biden would not nuke Iran after they use a nuke on Israel. His administration and the corrupt media would simply say "We don't know who did it". Just like they say they don't know China released Covid from a lab. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sprtpilot: Originally Posted By 18B30: Good, let them spend billions on weapons they can never use. If they ever used a nuke, Iran would cease to exist. No. Biden would not nuke Iran after they use a nuke on Israel. His administration and the corrupt media would simply say "We don't know who did it". Just like they say they don't know China released Covid from a lab. What happens when one gets used on us? Probably nothing, too. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:51:46 PM EDT
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We kinda knew that from how Obama funded it and they slapped us around.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:54:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SperlingPE: Yeah, not a shocker. I’m still skeptical. Israel would be all over this if nukes meant capability of using a nuclear weapon against another country. but yeah, Iran is in on nuclear weapons and has been for a long time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik Israel has chewed through a lot of political crap through their conventional campaign so far. Regardless of your opinion on Israel. If they're going conventional right now as revenge they cannot expand the war right now as they're losing support. Covert stuff is what they will do and what they always do when it comes to nukes |
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USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:58:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: From the article Fox news: Iran says big-mouthed lawmaker seems depressed, may be suicidal "In my opinion, we have achieved nuclear weapons, but we do not announce it. It means our policy is to possess nuclear bombs, but our declared policy is currently within the framework of the JCPOA," Ahmad Bakhshayesh Ardestani told the Iran-based outlet Rouydad 24 on Friday, according to an article published by the independent news organization Iran International in London." "Experts on Iran’s illegal nuclear weapons program warned about the seemingly speculative comments made by Ardestani. Jason Brodsky, the policy director of the U.S.-based United Against a Nuclear Iran, told Fox News Digital that "Ardestani is only a member of parliament, and he’s not in the inner core of the regime’s nuclear decision-making circle, so while his comments are interesting, I think they have to be weighed properly given his access and standing." So the article doesn’t say what OP says it says? No wonder OP didn’t link it. And no wonder no one else is collaborating it. Deliberately misrepresenting articles just to doom post and attention whore is happening way too much around here & should be treated as trolling. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:06:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hesperus]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik Israel has chewed through a lot of political crap through their conventional campaign so far. Regardless of your opinion on Israel. If they're going conventional right now as revenge they cannot expand the war right now as they're losing support. Covert stuff is what they will do and what they always do when it comes to nukes. Right up until such things become pointless. But for now it's probably for the best that the kabuki theatre continue. As for the Iranian government, consider this. After the current government took over they would have executed their entire air force if not for the Iraqis declaring war on them and sent them into battle with disabled ejection seats. And no I'm not just getting this from Top Gun Maverick. This is from an interview with a pilot who got out of there. It's hard to convey just how bloodthirsty the current Iranian government is. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:10:10 PM EDT
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Since OP is full of link fail...
https://www.foxnews.com/world/iranian-lawmaker-declares-tehran-obtained-nuclear-bombs |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:12:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:16:09 PM EDT
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Many many years they have had.
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