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AK, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:16:35 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:29:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: Now is GD finally ready to admit that Bush was an idiot and taking out Iraq was a terrible mistake? They were the one counterweight against Iran and now they're nothing. I would treat anyone who doesn't have this view as a suspect of the swamp. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:30:40 PM EDT
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Time for Stuxnet 2: Kinetic Boogaloo
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:33:15 PM EDT
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If they bought them from Boeing they'll probably explode when launched.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:40:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: I would treat anyone who doesn't have this view as a suspect of the swamp. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: Originally Posted By jackthom8: Now is GD finally ready to admit that Bush was an idiot and taking out Iraq was a terrible mistake? They were the one counterweight against Iran and now they're nothing. I would treat anyone who doesn't have this view as a suspect of the swamp. I remember when the Shrub was agitating to invade Iraq and several Mid East experts warned it was a horrible idea due to Iran. History has sure proved them right. Cheney and the rest of his fucking Neo fascists were world grade idiots, and we'll be paying the price for their recklessness for the next 50 years. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:41:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: engineer61]
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Iran is making Enriched Uranium
Idiot Iranian politician probably thinks that highly enriched uranium means Iran has nuclear weapons, it doesn't. Yes, they are just a month away from having weapons grade uranium, or maybe even already are producing it. But to get a working weapon you still need the explosives and triggering mechanism to work correctly, something that has to timed correctly to the microsecond. To get an H-bomb you need to have two triggered at the same time. Even with Chinese help I don't think that Iran's first try will work, but we will never know that if their second or third try do work, Iran will claim that the one that works is their first test. Probably will happen in the next 5 years. As far as what Iran wants, they want three things, the U.S. to leave the area and let Iran dominate the Mideast, Israel to not exist, and most importantly, to get control of Mecca. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:42:25 PM EDT
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I got SLAMMED here about ten years ago for suggesting that we destroy Iran. Look forward 200 years and see the US after NOT doing that WHILE WE COULD. Same goes for China. Glad I'm old enough to see my death coming. Fucking politicians.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:49:47 PM EDT
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Who was Hilary selling our uranium to?
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:51:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ACEB36TC: I got SLAMMED here about ten years ago for suggesting that we destroy Iran. Look forward 200 years and see the US after NOT doing that WHILE WE COULD. Same goes for China. Glad I'm old enough to see my death coming. Fucking politicians. I think sooner or later they will need to be nuked. My guess is in the next 10 years some smelly goat fucker smuggles an Iranian bomb into Israel and sets it off. Israel glasses several Iranian cities as a result. Rest of the world goes bonkers. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:54:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Thanks Obama |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:55:17 PM EDT
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Sure sure. The test pop is usually the statement of choice for nations demonstrating their attainment, or achievement to keep with the title.
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USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:07:06 PM EDT
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We've got more and vastly superior delivery systems.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:08:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 57man: Just read it over on free citizen press. Iran claims they have nuclear weapons. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:09:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Thanks Obama And Judas Joe. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:12:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rheinmetall792: We've got more and vastly superior delivery systems. Doesn't matter. They'll use it as a Deadman switch. Invade Iran, topple the regime, and the warhead will get set off in a high pop civilian center after the fact. Hell, they could have already smuggled it into the US or Europe and it's just chilling in a storage locker somewhere. Think of the movie True Lies. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:16:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M4-AK: We (Obama/Biden) funded this with our taxes and printing. Originally Posted By d16man: Pallets of cash Wasn't it like 150 billion? |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:18:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: Now is GD finally ready to admit that Bush was an idiot and taking out Iraq was a terrible mistake? They were the one counterweight against Iran and now they're nothing. Both countries wanted nukes because they hated and feared each other. Whoever had them first was likely to use them against the other and/or demand respect regionally as a "look at me, fear me" mantra. Fuck em all. GWB too. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:23:50 PM EDT
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If they do (which I suspect they do), they don't have enough.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:24:52 PM EDT
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I don't think they have them. There is no evidence they have them. This is just more BS until I see something that proves otherwise.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:31:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Taft]
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Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) only works when each country who possess them realize the futility of using them.
Think USA vs USSR or Pakistan vs India. Iran does not care about futility of use. Currently, with our weak ass president they could use a nuke on just about anyone and our idiot in chief would only send them more money or a sternly worded letter. Because of sleepy jo, and the ho, we have no credibility in the world, no seat at any table, and are the laughing stock of all nations. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:35:46 PM EDT
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They may have enough plutonium to build a few bombs by now but it doesn't mean they actually built one yet. If they really had one they would have to first test it to verify it even works. We would have seen sat photos of a deep dig for underground testing by now.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:50:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: For the TL/DR crowd...this wasn't an announcement, it came from a yappy dog in the Iranian Parliament who has no inner-circle access. Possible it's true, but should be taken with a grain of salt. We should still nuke Iran, though. It's the only way to be sure. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:55:31 PM EDT
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Even if not true, it's only a matter of time.
I've wondered if the Norks or Russia haven't already provided them some of their nukes in the past few years. 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:57:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30: My brother is married to an Iranian. Her family is iinfluential in current Iranian politics. Don’t confuse the IRG with the Iranian masses. Many Iranians are pissed that the Theocracy is pissing away their children’s future with the forever war. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30: Originally Posted By Bat15: Originally Posted By 18B30: Good, let them spend billions on weapons they can never use. The maintenance and downstream costs of nukes is much higher than most people understand. If they ever used a nuke, Iran would cease to exist. Sure, they could kill a few US Cities, but they would cease to exist as a nation state and their neighbors would gladly pick clean their few remaining border towns. 18Z50 Why do you think they could never use them? The Newcomers could have brought a few in with them.  My brother is married to an Iranian. Her family is iinfluential in current Iranian politics. Don’t confuse the IRG with the Iranian masses. Many Iranians are pissed that the Theocracy is pissing away their children’s future with the forever war. I am not saying all Iranians are extremists. The ruling class is more than willing to kill all the infidels. They have brainwashed enough of the masses to be a credible threat to our very existence. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:58:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kraquine: It's not as simple as in the movies Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kraquine: Originally Posted By Bat15: Why do you think they could never use them? The Newcomers could have brought a few in with them. It's not as simple as in the movies I understand it is not as simple as the movies show. That does not mean they can’t do it. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:58:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boomer: What happens when one gets used on us? Probably nothing, too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boomer: Originally Posted By sprtpilot: Originally Posted By 18B30: Good, let them spend billions on weapons they can never use. If they ever used a nuke, Iran would cease to exist. No. Biden would not nuke Iran after they use a nuke on Israel. His administration and the corrupt media would simply say "We don't know who did it". Just like they say they don't know China released Covid from a lab. What happens when one gets used on us? Probably nothing, too. Iran uses one on Israel, it is game on and Tehran will cease to exist......simple as that |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:01:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rheinmetall792: We've got more and vastly superior delivery systems. Does Biden have the will to use them? I have my doubts. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:06:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Thanks Obama 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:07:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bat15: Does Biden have the will to use them? I have my doubts. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:10:07 PM EDT
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Iran will give them to a terrorist proxy.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:12:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: I would treat anyone who doesn't have this view as a suspect of the swamp. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: Originally Posted By jackthom8: Now is GD finally ready to admit that Bush was an idiot and taking out Iraq was a terrible mistake? They were the one counterweight against Iran and now they're nothing. The price of doing is far less than the cost of delay.  |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:15:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bat15: Does Biden have the will to use them? I have my doubts. "sign here Mr. President" That demented old fuck isn't in control of anything. Not his pen, not his mouth, not his brain, not his bowels, not his family and certainly NOT this country. He is just a puppet. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:17:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: "sign here Mr. President" That demented old fuck isn't in control of anything. Not his pen, not his mouth, not his brain, not his bowels, not his family and certainly NOT this country. He is just a puppet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By Bat15: Does Biden have the will to use them? I have my doubts. "sign here Mr. President" That demented old fuck isn't in control of anything. Not his pen, not his mouth, not his brain, not his bowels, not his family and certainly NOT this country. He is just a puppet. Do the people pulling Biden’s strings have the will to use nukes? |
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USA
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:21:57 PM EDT
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It's not a big surprise if so. Their neighbor Pakistan also has them and is just as fanatical if not more so. The question is if they would use them or if it's just a deterrent like how North Korea is using theirs?
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:23:48 PM EDT
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been beating that drum for 50yrs and still it works
give Ukraine another 20 billion that should solve the problem |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:24:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bat15: Do the people pulling Biden’s strings have the will to use nukes? Depends on how far the decision gets pushed down the chain. Nobody in the top link would have the balls to own it, but somebody below it would. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:35:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rheinmetall792: We've got more and vastly superior delivery systems. We also have practically non-existent border security. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:38:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: We'll see what Israel does about it. Kharn Won't be pretty. The middle.rast is heating up and it's Biden's fault. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 1:13:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTM1: ETA Waiting for seismic detectors to go off to confirm. They didn't test anything. And they don't need too. Here's why. Common nuclear bombs come in two varieties: Plutonium (or Pu for brevity) and Uranium (or U). The Pu bomb takes far less Uranium ore or concentrated than U bomb. That is why most countries opt for it: buying Uranium on the international market is not very easy, especially if you want it under the table. Expensive, too. Also, in order to transmute Uranium into Plutonium for the Pu bomb, one must run a nuclear reactor for a long time. This reactor is very vulnerable to an attack by a hostile power, as was demonstrated when Israel destroyed Iraqi and Syrian reactors. Finally, a Pu bomb requires a sophisticated ignition system, which is difficult to get right. So a country making a Pu bomb pretty much has to test it in order to know if it works. Lybia, Iraq, Syria, Norks, Pakis, and even Indians all went the Pu route (not all succeeded). The U bomb uses a lot more Uranium ore. Also, the Uranium for it does not have to be transmuted, only enriched. It can be extracted from ore using a bunch of complicated processes, one of which is stratification in a gas centrifuge. It takes as long or longer than making Plutonium. But in a key difference, the enrichment process can be distributed in numerous factories, so that a hostile power would not be able to knock out the whole program with one strike on a reactor. And, the U bomb does not need to be tested. You pretty much only need to assemble it and it's guaranteed to work. Iran have their own domestic Uranium, so they are okay with the wasteful use of it. They have the time to let the enrichment to run its course. And they don't want to let Israel to destroy the whole program. That is primarily while Mullahs went with the U bomb. But the lack of the need of testing is a nice bonus. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 1:16:35 AM EDT
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They either always have or still don’t
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 1:17:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By engineer61: But to get a working weapon you still need the explosives and triggering mechanism to work correctly, something that has to timed correctly to the microsecond. The need for microseconds only applies to a bomb made out of Plutonium. But Iranian bomb is made from Uranium. It does not need any explosives. It can operate on a compressed Nitrogen if you want. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 2:01:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MADMAXXX]
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If they actually had one they would blow one up in a "test" to show that they had one and should be taken seriously.
There is no reason they wouldn't do this. They are bluffing. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 2:03:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Thanks Obama But but.....he was the first black president! He was destined for nothing but competence! |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 2:11:05 AM EDT
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1. China helped Pakistan develop nukes.
2. Pakistan helped North Korea develop nukes. 3. North Korea helped Iran develop nukes. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 2:36:28 AM EDT
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how is this any different than all the previous times iran was accused of having nukes?
iraq had weapons of mass destruction because donald rumsfeld gave them to saddam to fight iran yet we couldnt find them. instead our msm just kept claiming they were there long after saddam flew them to iran during the invasion as well as buried a few in the desert as chemical capable jet aircraft fully decomishioned. how can you guarantee if we invade iran to fight a longest war ever for isreal that we will find them and that if they did in fact have them they wont use them when we attack? its just stupid at this point. the new kids of todays generation cant even be forced to go fight if a giant pearl harbor 9/11 event were to happen again as a catalyst. isreal is all grown up now and will have to learn to fend for itself. if afghanistan gets nukes from north korea as a deterrant to invasion are we to just start all over at this point? pakistani terrs have nukes according to cia and isreal yet its been 20 years and the world is still here unchanged. lets just say iran did have nukes. how do they use them as anything other than deterrant, like where can they strike without engulfing the muslim world in fall out and direct death? isreal on the other hand has alot of juicy targets so its quite uneven to the point they bully everyone and pick fights in all directions. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 2:37:09 AM EDT
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many bothans have died to bring us this information...
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:25:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bat15: Why do you think they could never use them? The Newcomers could have brought a few in with them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bat15: Originally Posted By 18B30: Good, let them spend billions on weapons they can never use. The maintenance and downstream costs of nukes is much higher than most people understand. If they ever used a nuke, Iran would cease to exist. Sure, they could kill a few US Cities, but they would cease to exist as a nation state and their neighbors would gladly pick clean their few remaining border towns. 18Z50 Why do you think they could never use them? The Newcomers could have brought a few in with them. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:36:12 AM EDT
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All Iranian infrastructure should be bombed to prevent them from having WMDs. Roads, railroads, bridges, power plants, etc.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:55:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sporter: If a country can build ballistic guided missiles, they'll have no issue building nukes. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:37:55 AM EDT
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Dick Cheney swapped the Barksdale nuke for a freshly cut out Palestinian stone thrower's heart. It's in a Zim Integrated shipping container somewhere in Houston. Start worrying when the MSM say the Islamic Revolutionary Guard has smuggled one across our porous Southern border. RIP Roland Carnaby... Jk!
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