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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:25:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ZW17]
I was watching one of those typical prison interviews on YouTube last night and the guy being interviewed spent time in the Oregon prison system. Snake River I believe?
Anyway, he was saying that chomos are now protected under hate crime laws and if they can prove that you beat/stabbed a chomo, your getting another pump for a long time due to the hate crime being tacked on. He said the key was to walk by the guy and loudly say “did you just call me a bitch?” before throwing fists so you can explain to the board that he disrespected you. Is this correct? Hate crime protections? Fuck that if it is true. Skip to 1:00:00 to see the interview about the protection.  Prison Gang Shot Caller Exposes Secrets Of White Prison Politics, Seeing Shankings, & Bribing Guards R2Point0 found this link discussing this topic at the federal level… https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/victim-attributes-hate-crime-law-difference-and-politics-justice |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:30:11 PM EDT
[#1]
Any prisoner who attacks another prisoner should be locked anway in solitary for the rest of their sentence or be executed. That’ll cut down on violence in prison in short order. The ones who can’t control themselves won’t be around long.
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:34:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: laxman09]
[#2]
There is no hate crime chomo law*
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:36:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Wtf is a chomo
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:37:46 PM EDT
[#4]
Chomo may refer to:
Prison slang for child molester Per Wikipedia |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:38:13 PM EDT
[#5]
Child molester…..
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SOM
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:39:02 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Badlatitude: Wtf is a chomo child molester. they get the shank or shiv. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:39:06 PM EDT
[#7]
It's my understanding that, despite popular belief (and desire), child predators are not targeted by the other inmates because of the nature of their crimes. I am *more* than happy to be disabused of this notion.
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:40:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mikNtx: child molester. they get the shank or shiv. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:40:56 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Badlatitude: Wtf is a chomo A delicious Mexican dessert |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:41:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rudderbutter]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Badlatitude: Wtf is a chomo Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Badlatitude: Wtf is a chomo A "chold" molester. Originally Posted By R2point0: I thought shank is the verb and shiv is the noun? One gets shanked by a prisoner using a shiv. Or are they interchangeable? That is also my understanding. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:42:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jmo371]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: It's my understanding that, despite popular belief (and desire), child predators are not targeted by the other inmates because of the nature of their crimes. I am *more* than happy to be disabused of this notion. My experience working in two Federal prisons for nearly a decade, including a United States Penitentary is exactly opposite. Inmates despise sex offenders, most have kids etc... |
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SD, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:44:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: I thought shank is the verb and shiv is the noun? One gets shanked by a prisoner using a shiv. Or are they interchangeable? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: Originally Posted By mikNtx: child molester. they get the shank or shiv. Shank is a piercing weapon, shiv is a cutting weapon. Both can be used as adverbs, but neither is a verb. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:46:45 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jmo371: My experience working in two Federal prisons for nearly a decade, including a United States Penitentary is exactly opposite. Inmates despise sex offenders, most have kids etc... |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:47:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pawcatch]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: It's my understanding that, despite popular belief (and desire), child predators are not targeted by the other inmates because of the nature of their crimes. I am *more* than happy to be disabused of this notion. Cousin was a CO at Hayes and he said it largely depends on race and the particular prison they're in. He told me he knew of a notorious large black inmate that raped and killed a young boy in 1997 and he became a shot caller in a black gang despite what he did . He said that wouldn't fly with whites or Latino gangs though. Of course, many pedos are segregated. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:47:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elmidgeto: Shank is a piercing weapon, shiv is a cutting weapon. Both can be used as adverbs, but neither is a verb. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:50:00 PM EDT
[#16]
Indiana has a classification system to keep birds of a feather together, as best they can anyway to keep the stabbing numbers down.
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:50:43 PM EDT
[#17]
The notion that convicted felons in prison are somehow going to stop short of attacking a child molester because doing so would be a hate crime is both ill assembled and ridiculous.
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SOM
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:51:11 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: It's my understanding that, despite popular belief (and desire), child predators are not targeted by the other inmates because of the nature of their crimes. I am *more* than happy to be disabused of this notion. there is this old game show called card sharks. they ask the contestants a question and a statistical percentage of those asked questioned. yours of "child predators are not targeted by the other inmates because of the nature of their crimes." the contestant leading would throw out a number, the challenger would just say higher or lower. a as a challenger, i would hope the numbers of not targeted are much lower and most get the stabby. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:52:15 PM EDT
[#19]
I once had a conversation with the warden at a medium-security prison. He told me that something like 40 percent of his inmates were sex offenders that were classified as "non-violent" (i.e. not aggravated sexual assault.
I surmised that part of the reason they were there was so they could be in protective custody without calling it protective custody. The ones who committed aggravated sexual assault went to the maximum security prison. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:56:33 PM EDT
[#20]
I hate cholo molesters. They go around saying "yo, want some candy ese?"
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2024 5:56:40 PM EDT
[#21]
Never heard of such a thing. But JD would know about the Oregon prisons, he spent time there. But prisons like Corcoran, Pelican's Bay, Salinas Valley, Chomo's and rapists can almost guarantee they won't see their release date. Some of these places have entire units that house Chomo's to "protect" them.
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:01:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: I am glad to be corrected then. Crimes against kids, women, elderly, and the disabled are highly frowned upon by certain segments (White and Latino) of prison society. It is sometimes overlooked by other segments of prison society. This was discussed in depth in the interview I watched. The reason was the one “car” (skin color click) needed warm bodies on the front line, they are losing control due to the Whites and Latinos joining forces. This was for the prison he was at (Snake River) so this may not be true at all prisons. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:02:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkullFarmer: I once had a conversation with the warden at a medium-security prison. He told me that something like 40 percent of his inmates were sex offenders that were classified as "non-violent" (i.e. not aggravated sexual assault. I surmised that part of the reason they were there was so they could be in protective custody without calling it protective custody. The ones who committed aggravated sexual assault went to the maximum security prison. Ohio puts most of its chomos and rapists in one state prison for the exact same reason. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:08:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jmo371: My experience working in two Federal prisons for nearly a decade, including a United States Penitentary is exactly opposite. Inmates despise sex offenders, most have kids etc... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jmo371: Originally Posted By R2point0: It's my understanding that, despite popular belief (and desire), child predators are not targeted by the other inmates because of the nature of their crimes. I am *more* than happy to be disabused of this notion. My experience working in two Federal prisons for nearly a decade, including a United States Penitentary is exactly opposite. Inmates despise sex offenders, most have kids etc... It depends on the type of facility. Fed prison all bets are off. When I worked county jail, sex offenders were housed in their own dorm and were not to cross paths with anyone who was not a special segregation classification so there would be no opportunity for an assault. That isn’t to say they never kicked the shit out of each other, though. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:08:34 PM EDT
[#25]
I consider trying up or killing a chomo a form of community service.
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:09:55 PM EDT
[#26]
There's a federal anti prison rape law maybe that's what they're talking about https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_Rape_Elimination_Act_of_2003#:~:text=The%20bill%20was%20signed%20into%20law%20on%20September%204%2C%202003.&text=An%20Act%20to%20provide%20for,protect%20individuals%20from%20prison%20rape
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:10:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: It's my understanding that, despite popular belief (and desire), child predators are not targeted by the other inmates because of the nature of their crimes. I am *more* than happy to be disabused of this notion. They try to keep them with others like them and others who are short timers so the other have incentive not to do the world a favor. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:10:46 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: I thought shank is the verb and shiv is the noun? One gets shanked by a prisoner using a shiv. Or are they interchangeable? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: Originally Posted By mikNtx: child molester. they get the shank or shiv. Interchangeable. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:11:25 PM EDT
[#29]
OP, saw it too. Couldn't believe it was the case, then I could. Especially with the PEDO shit that comes from the left.
BTW, it was the JD Delay interview with The Connect - Johnny Mitchell. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:11:52 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jmo371: My experience working in two Federal prisons for nearly a decade, including a United States Penitentary is exactly opposite. Inmates despise sex offenders, most have kids etc... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jmo371: Originally Posted By R2point0: It's my understanding that, despite popular belief (and desire), child predators are not targeted by the other inmates because of the nature of their crimes. I am *more* than happy to be disabused of this notion. My experience working in two Federal prisons for nearly a decade, including a United States Penitentary is exactly opposite. Inmates despise sex offenders, most have kids etc... Alot of invicts are chomo victims. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:13:42 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pawcatch: Cousin is a CO at Hayes and he said it largely depends on race and the particular prison they're in. He told me he knew of a notorious large black inmate that raped and killed a young boy in 1997 and he became a shot caller in a black gang despite what he did . He said that wouldn't fly with whites or Latino gangs though. Of course, many pedos are segregated. Hayes is not a nice place. Hope your cousin does good and maybe gets out of that place. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:13:55 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: There's a federal anti prison rape law maybe that's what they're talking about https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_Rape_Elimination_Act_of_2003#:~:text=The%20bill%20was%20signed%20into%20law%20on%20September%204%2C%202003.&text=An%20Act%20to%20provide%20for,protect%20individuals%20from%20prison%20rape No, this was discussed in depth about how chomos have protection over every other class in the prison system with this hate crime law (Oregon State prison system) including gays, trans, blacks, etc… I’ll try and find the interview again. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:14:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jerrwhy01]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: It's my understanding that, despite popular belief (and desire), child predators are not targeted by the other inmates because of the nature of their crimes. I am *more* than happy to be disabused of this notion. Having worked in corrections myself and my wife has worked in corrections for the past 18 years I can attest that child predators are generally not targeted by other inmates. They are generally treated as outcast by otherwise they are tolerated. It may happen in other institutions but in the 3 that my wife has been at and the one I worked they were largely left alone. And there is no hate crime law protecting child predators. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:15:35 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elmidgeto: Shank is a piercing weapon, shiv is a cutting weapon. Both can be used as adverbs, but neither is a verb. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elmidgeto: Originally Posted By R2point0: Originally Posted By mikNtx: child molester. they get the shank or shiv. Shank is a piercing weapon, shiv is a cutting weapon. Both can be used as adverbs, but neither is a verb. I'd thought it was verb/noun as well, but that makes sense too. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:17:13 PM EDT
[#35]
Look, if they didn’t see Epstein not kill himself, they can take a break and turn off the cameras when the pedo’s commit “suicide” by stabbing themselves a hundred times using four different shanks.
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:19:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ZW17]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By morning_would: OP, saw it too. Couldn't believe it was the case, then I could. Especially with the PEDO shit that comes from the left. BTW, it was the JD Delay interview with The Connect - Johnny Mitchell. Nice! You found it. That’s it. Thanks man! Skip to 1:00:00 to see the part about chomos. Prison Gang Shot Caller Exposes Secrets Of White Prison Politics, Seeing Shankings, & Bribing Guards |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:19:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mikNtx: there is this old game show called card sharks. they ask the contestants a question and a statistical percentage of those asked questioned. yours of "child predators are not targeted by the other inmates because of the nature of their crimes." the contestant leading would throw out a number, the challenger would just say higher or lower. a as a challenger, i would hope the numbers of not targeted are much lower and most get the stabby. I don't know about card sharks. Shower sharks could be considered a game in prison. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:21:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: The notion that convicted felons in prison are somehow going to stop short of attacking a child molester because doing so would be a hate crime is both ill assembled and ridiculous. Yeah, it's like more gun laws will keep guns out of criminals hands... |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:21:19 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: It's my understanding that, despite popular belief (and desire), child predators are not targeted by the other inmates because of the nature of their crimes. I am *more* than happy to be disabused of this notion. They'll just get extorted by other inmates usually, is what I've heard. Charged rent in commissary, stuff like that. You don't pay, you get beaten. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:22:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shinji_Ikari: Hayes is not a nice place. Hope your cousin does good and maybe gets out of that place. I just edited it, he's out now. Man, he has some stories. Also, did you find that certain races treated sexual offenses different? |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:23:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 10mmManiac: Never heard of such a thing. But JD would know about the Oregon prisons, he spent time there. But prisons like Corcoran, Pelican's Bay, Salinas Valley, Chomo's and rapists can almost guarantee they won't see their release date. Some of these places have entire units that house Chomo's to "protect" them. That all depends on the politics of the yard that inmate is on. Nothing is guaranteed in prison. Inmates with safety concerns that are legitimate are moved. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:24:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sirveaux: I'd thought it was verb/noun as well, but that makes sense too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sirveaux: Originally Posted By elmidgeto: Originally Posted By R2point0: Originally Posted By mikNtx: child molester. they get the shank or shiv. Shank is a piercing weapon, shiv is a cutting weapon. Both can be used as adverbs, but neither is a verb. I'd thought it was verb/noun as well, but that makes sense too. That's pretty much how they're used, but much like that pronoun nonsense, I refuse to participate in the rape of the English language. 
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:27:28 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Herewego: Look, if they didn’t see Epstein not kill himself, they can take a break and turn off the cameras when the pedo’s commit “suicide” by stabbing themselves a hundred times using four different shanks. 
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:29:22 PM EDT
[#44]
This topic sort of came up not long after an uncle (by marriage only) got out. He said that nobody really stabbed or attempted to kill the chomos cause none of them really wanted to adid to their sentences. Instead they’d try to push them to kill themselves. Daily, sometimes multiple times a day, best the shit out of them, instigate fights with them, steal food and stuff they bought from commissary. The goal was just to make it as miserable for them that eventually they hang themselves with a bedsheet or some shit.
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:33:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZW17: Nice! You found it. That’s it. Thanks man! Skip to 1:00:00 to see the part about chomos.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPsw4BWRk9QIf you wanna see how JD feels about chomos, head over to his channel. He is always, well almost always, wearing a hat that looks like a Trump hat that says "Make Pedos Afraid Again". He also wears a shirt that says something like "Woodchipper 2024" or something like that that also talks about what to do with chomos. He was molested at 6 years old, so he has the fire within to smash them on sight. He also has the size to inflict much pain. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:34:48 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elmidgeto: Shank is a piercing weapon, shiv is a cutting weapon. Both can be used as adverbs, but neither is a verb. It's all subjective at that point, just let nature take It's course... |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:35:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: R2point0]
[#47]
I did a little googling and came up with https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/victim-attributes-hate-crime-law-difference-and-politics-justice .
Apparently at least part of the Justice department thinks that they should be protected under hate crime laws. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:36:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CastleBravo91: They'll just get extorted by other inmates usually, is what I've heard. Charged rent in commissary, stuff like that. You don't pay, you get beaten. Depends. The higher the security ar least in my system the more politics matter, AND the inmates were expected to conduct themselves as a man, not disrespect female staff...and sex offenders couldn't walk....all held accountable by their own gang/car. But as you go lower down the security tier the other inmates are just foccused in getting out. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:37:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Palm]
[#49]
A lot of people are in prison because of low impulse self control and with a poor understanding of long term consequences. My bet is a lot of the prisoners won’t adequately consider “special enhancement” penalties in their decision making process. They also believe that can get away without being caught.
Anyone who has experience in that field, please chime in. My experience dealing with prisoners in jail is limited. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 6:46:34 PM EDT
[#50]
@buckshot_jim
Jim, care to weigh in on this? |
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