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The 17th amendment basically allows for de facto amendments by mob rule; change by mind. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They don’t really bother with that whole amendment process anymore, too inconvenient. De jure, not even close. Which calls into question the legitimacy of the entire government at that point, when they no longer follow their own laws they’re only ruling by fear. |
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All of the cops I’ve known personally have been outstanding citizens , good neighbors, and good friends. They have a job to do . We the people have a job to do as well . The founding fathers made it very clear what needs to happen when tyranny is the rule rather than the exception. Certain segments of government think they are above the Constitution and the bill of rights . They need to be smacked down with extreme prejudice.
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I'm asking questions that make you uncomfortable and for which you have no answers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to laws. You're arguing your point based on your emotions and feelings, an opinion. Which is what the left does consistently. |
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You are horribly misinformed. Please cite case law or a case that did not get approval from a judge before any non-exigent door kicking happened. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I see you are unfamiliar with the concept of no knocks. ![]() You are horribly disingenuous. Please cite case law or a case that did not get approval from a judge before any non-exigent door kicking happened. |
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So POTUS is above the law in regards to the Constitution and the civil rights of an American Citizen and he can have him killed without a trial or thrown in prison for life without a hearing? View Quote War does not allow niceties such as warrants and court orders. Get over it. |
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I like cops.. I am just extremely cautious around people who can ruin my life with the swipe of a pen Goes for politicians as well |
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Blame the laws, not Law Enforcement Officers. We dont get to selectively decide what laws to enforce. So lighten up, Francis. If you have great gun laws, like in Arizona, then LEOs are very gun friendly, because we assume everyone is armed. You have a problem with the gun laws, mobilize at the ballot box. If you are in New York, or Maryland, then move. ![]() View Quote Just curious. Txl |
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That sounds a lot like “I’ll gladly violate your constitutional rights for $55,000 a year”. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Blame the laws, not Law Enforcement Officers. We dont get to selectively decide what laws to enforce. So lighten up, Francis. If you have great gun laws, like in Arizona, then LEOs are very gun friendly, because we assume everyone is armed. You have a problem with the gun laws, mobilize at the ballot box. If you are in New York, or Maryland, then move. ![]() Txl |
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POTUS can call for airstrikes against our enemies and if an American citizen is a combatant and gets KIA then that's too fookin bad. POTUS can do things you can't. Does that make you angry? War does not allow niceties such as warrants and court orders. Get over it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So POTUS is above the law in regards to the Constitution and the civil rights of an American Citizen and he can have him killed without a trial or thrown in prison for life without a hearing? War does not allow niceties such as warrants and court orders. Get over it. ![]() |
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OK, cite a case or are you just shouting shit out your ass? Back it up. Prove your point. You made it, back it up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Smoke and mirrors IMO, how many warrants ever get denied? Many times the requesting officers just make shit up, confidential informants and all. Back it up. Prove your point. You made it, back it up. The greater issue is judges rubber stamping warrants on paper thin evidence or outright fabricated evidence. Now of course that’s not the sort of statistic the government is going to keep, so you can safely demand I prove it knowing that fact. |
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Smoke and mirrors IMO, how many warrants ever get denied? Many times the requesting officers just make shit up, confidential informants and all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't see myself or anyone I work with busting down doors at 4am and violating civil rights. We gather evidence, conduct interviews, inform people of their civil rights, approach the court, present our cases, petition for a warrant, and then do it all iver again before a court where the suspect is innocent until judged by a jury after all my case work has been presented again. I ain't snatching up folks at 4am and sending them to Gitmo without a trial or a kangaroo secret court. Nor am I doing it with armored units, CAS, or predator drones. I ain't whacking people from 12,000ft with a missle after a President has declared them a threat without trial. ![]() You are horribly disingenuous. I gather evidence, which includes interviews and reading suspects of their rights, presenting my case before the State Attorney's Office and then the Judge. And I swear and affirm that everything I have stated is truthful and honest. When did PFC Snuffy do that before he raided a home? Many times the requesting officers just make shit up, confidential informants and all. Because in one case the Judge personally knew the suspect and refused to recuse himself since the suspect was financially involved with the judge and the other time was that the State Attorney's Office agreed there was probable cause but declined to prosecute because it "was not a big deal" and he felt it wouldn't do him anything for his election. I present solid cases so they don't get shot down. I come in with mountains of evidence. Prosecutors and Judges after reading my probable cause reports for a warrant never question me on my cases because the detailed evidence I present is that solid. |
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Correct. In a separate thread, it was generally agreed that Police Chiefs are appointed, not elected. View Quote Oh, that's right, the governor or some other ELECTED official. Some of you guys couldn't follow a painted line if you were holding the brush. ![]() |
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I think you misconstrue the meaning. Yes, do I have discretion to not cite a person for a violation? Sure. People keep talking about unconstitutional laws here. Sorry, while there are laws you may not agree with, the courts in that state interpreted the constitution a certain way. Am I a gun grabber? Nope. I live in a state where I have all sorts of second amendment freedoms. That is my choice. As far as my "oath", I take the oath to the constitution to the United States of America, and to the State of Arizona, very seriously. But if people are doing dumb shit, and breaking the law, they are going to run afoul of a pair of handcuffs. I am fortunate not to have "gun-grabbing" laws here. If I worked in another state, I am not sure what I would do. I love my job, I take it seriously, I am honest, hard-working, and try to do right by people. But holding people accountable for breaking the laws I have sworn to uphold is my job. Many of you here are sitting in your armchair stating you would or would not do this or that. Yeah, ok. All cops I have dealt with are corrupt. Yeah, ok. I call bullshit on both. Internet heroes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Talk to your shop steward. He's got the juice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Warrants issued on false info are extremely rare, and innocent people have never been killed on such raids. I read it on GD. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Smoke and mirrors IMO, how many warrants ever get denied? Many times the requesting officers just make shit up, confidential informants and all. LOL |
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No. As the other poster said, it’s the corruption & elitism, in addition to the unjust laws. I thought the book “Serpico” helped fix police corruption, but every cop I knew growing up was either corrupt or a thug who used his badge to bully whomever he chose. I think I was around 11 when I wanted to be a cop, then listened to family friends brag about seized money, contraband & thuggery and decided—I don’t want to be that. View Quote |
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Correct. In a separate thread, it was generally agreed that Police Chiefs are appointed, not elected. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Me? Two... why? Because in one case the Judge personally knew the suspect and refused to recuse himself since the suspect was financially involved with the judge and the other time was that the State Attorney's Office agreed there was probable cause but declined to prosecute because it "was not a big deal" and he felt it wouldn't do him anything for his election. I present solid cases so they don't get shot down. I come in with mountains of evidence. Prosecutors and Judges after reading my probable cause reports for a warrant never question me on my cases because the detailed evidence I present is that solid. View Quote |
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LOL no but let it pass. The answer clearly makes you uncomfortable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I explained to you discretion and how it applies to me daily. I can't wait until school starts up again and the kids go back. I look forward to Brownells cracking down on such things. |
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Could say that about any profession or category. "I used to respect doctors, but their blatant over prescribing opioids (On a national level) Has changed my opinion of them." "I Used to respect clergy, but their abuse of children and the fleecing of their congregations (on a national level) has changed my opinion of them" "I used to respect women, but their abuse of their sexuality and falsely accusing men of rape or sexual misconduct (On a national level) has changed my opinion of them" OP, you're falling for a false narrative pushed by a media with an agenda. View Quote |
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So you're saying I present false evidence? LOL View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Smoke and mirrors IMO, how many warrants ever get denied? Many times the requesting officers just make shit up, confidential informants and all. LOL |
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If the 28th Amendment voids the 2nd how is that unconstitutional? Show your work. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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LOL.... I can't wait until school starts up again and the kids go back. I look forward to Brownells cracking down on such things. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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