User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:00:42 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The 17th amendment basically allows for de facto amendments by mob rule; change by mind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
They don’t really bother with that whole amendment process anymore, too inconvenient. De jure, not even close. Which calls into question the legitimacy of the entire government at that point, when they no longer follow their own laws they’re only ruling by fear. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:01:11 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Opinion =/= truth. RIF, bro. But you go right ahead on with "your truth". Got it. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:01:43 AM EDT
[#3]
All of the cops I’ve known personally have been outstanding citizens , good neighbors, and good friends. They have a job to do . We the people have a job to do as well . The founding fathers made it very clear what needs to happen when tyranny is the rule rather than the exception. Certain segments of government think they are above the Constitution and the bill of rights . They need to be smacked down with extreme prejudice.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:01:55 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm asking questions that make you uncomfortable and for which you have no answers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to laws. You're arguing your point based on your emotions and feelings, an opinion. Which is what the left does consistently. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:02:34 AM EDT
[#5]
Colorado sheriffs who won't enforce anti-gun 'red flag' law should 'resign,' state AG says
Some Washington sheriffs refuse to enforce new gun laws 64 Second Amendment 'sanctuary county' movement expands as organizers take aim at new gun laws Hopkinton joins Burrillville as a sanctuary for gun rights Rhode Island I guess those cops in those areas are all made up. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:03:08 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
You are horribly misinformed. Please cite case law or a case that did not get approval from a judge before any non-exigent door kicking happened. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
I see you are unfamiliar with the concept of no knocks. 
You are horribly disingenuous. Please cite case law or a case that did not get approval from a judge before any non-exigent door kicking happened. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:03:39 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Smoke and mirrors IMO, how many warrants ever get denied? Many times the requesting officers just make shit up, confidential informants and all. Back it up. Prove your point. You made it, back it up. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:04:11 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So POTUS is above the law in regards to the Constitution and the civil rights of an American Citizen and he can have him killed without a trial or thrown in prison for life without a hearing? War does not allow niceties such as warrants and court orders. Get over it. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:04:39 AM EDT
[#9]
Yes to an extent
I like cops.. I am just extremely cautious around people who can ruin my life with the swipe of a pen Goes for politicians as well |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:05:31 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Which begs the question of the legitimacy of the constitution itself. Got it. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:06:14 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Wrong. You're just proving it in this thread. *this is fun! 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:06:16 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So your truth is superior to my truth. Got it. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:06:32 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Blame the laws, not Law Enforcement Officers. We dont get to selectively decide what laws to enforce. So lighten up, Francis. If you have great gun laws, like in Arizona, then LEOs are very gun friendly, because we assume everyone is armed. You have a problem with the gun laws, mobilize at the ballot box. If you are in New York, or Maryland, then move.  Just curious. Txl |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:06:44 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Oh so you want anarchy, mob rule. Got it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Which begs the question of the legitimacy of the constitution itself. Got it. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:07:03 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, I think he is saying you argue like a woman. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:07:14 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
That sounds a lot like “I’ll gladly violate your constitutional rights for $55,000 a year”. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Blame the laws, not Law Enforcement Officers. We dont get to selectively decide what laws to enforce. So lighten up, Francis. If you have great gun laws, like in Arizona, then LEOs are very gun friendly, because we assume everyone is armed. You have a problem with the gun laws, mobilize at the ballot box. If you are in New York, or Maryland, then move. Txl |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:07:14 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
POTUS can call for airstrikes against our enemies and if an American citizen is a combatant and gets KIA then that's too fookin bad. POTUS can do things you can't. Does that make you angry? War does not allow niceties such as warrants and court orders. Get over it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
So POTUS is above the law in regards to the Constitution and the civil rights of an American Citizen and he can have him killed without a trial or thrown in prison for life without a hearing? War does not allow niceties such as warrants and court orders. Get over it. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:07:31 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
OK, cite a case or are you just shouting shit out your ass? Back it up. Prove your point. You made it, back it up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Smoke and mirrors IMO, how many warrants ever get denied? Many times the requesting officers just make shit up, confidential informants and all. Back it up. Prove your point. You made it, back it up. The greater issue is judges rubber stamping warrants on paper thin evidence or outright fabricated evidence. Now of course that’s not the sort of statistic the government is going to keep, so you can safely demand I prove it knowing that fact. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:07:36 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm asking questions that make you uncomfortable and for which you have no answers. I think you are the ones who is uncomfortable and will just keep slinging bullshit until the bovine's run dry. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:08:34 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Oooooh buuuurrrrrnnn. You're what, 12? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No, I think he is saying you argue like a woman. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:09:19 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Smoke and mirrors IMO, how many warrants ever get denied? Many times the requesting officers just make shit up, confidential informants and all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I don't see myself or anyone I work with busting down doors at 4am and violating civil rights. We gather evidence, conduct interviews, inform people of their civil rights, approach the court, present our cases, petition for a warrant, and then do it all iver again before a court where the suspect is innocent until judged by a jury after all my case work has been presented again. I ain't snatching up folks at 4am and sending them to Gitmo without a trial or a kangaroo secret court. Nor am I doing it with armored units, CAS, or predator drones. I ain't whacking people from 12,000ft with a missle after a President has declared them a threat without trial.
You are horribly disingenuous. I gather evidence, which includes interviews and reading suspects of their rights, presenting my case before the State Attorney's Office and then the Judge. And I swear and affirm that everything I have stated is truthful and honest. When did PFC Snuffy do that before he raided a home? Many times the requesting officers just make shit up, confidential informants and all. Because in one case the Judge personally knew the suspect and refused to recuse himself since the suspect was financially involved with the judge and the other time was that the State Attorney's Office agreed there was probable cause but declined to prosecute because it "was not a big deal" and he felt it wouldn't do him anything for his election. I present solid cases so they don't get shot down. I come in with mountains of evidence. Prosecutors and Judges after reading my probable cause reports for a warrant never question me on my cases because the detailed evidence I present is that solid. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:10:20 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Correct. In a separate thread, it was generally agreed that Police Chiefs are appointed, not elected. Oh, that's right, the governor or some other ELECTED official. Some of you guys couldn't follow a painted line if you were holding the brush.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:11:13 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I think you misconstrue the meaning. Yes, do I have discretion to not cite a person for a violation? Sure. People keep talking about unconstitutional laws here. Sorry, while there are laws you may not agree with, the courts in that state interpreted the constitution a certain way. Am I a gun grabber? Nope. I live in a state where I have all sorts of second amendment freedoms. That is my choice. As far as my "oath", I take the oath to the constitution to the United States of America, and to the State of Arizona, very seriously. But if people are doing dumb shit, and breaking the law, they are going to run afoul of a pair of handcuffs. I am fortunate not to have "gun-grabbing" laws here. If I worked in another state, I am not sure what I would do. I love my job, I take it seriously, I am honest, hard-working, and try to do right by people. But holding people accountable for breaking the laws I have sworn to uphold is my job. Many of you here are sitting in your armchair stating you would or would not do this or that. Yeah, ok. All cops I have dealt with are corrupt. Yeah, ok. I call bullshit on both. Internet heroes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Isn't selecting what laws to enforce called discretion? |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:11:51 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Talk to your shop steward. He's got the juice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
I've been doing it wrong. Maybe I should ask for a dental plan. Nah, not gonna get that any time soon. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:12:07 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Section 23 page 34 Duncan v. Becerra Or People v. Verches if you want the long read. Have fun bud. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:12:56 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Warrants issued on false info are extremely rare, and innocent people have never been killed on such raids. I read it on GD. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Smoke and mirrors IMO, how many warrants ever get denied? Many times the requesting officers just make shit up, confidential informants and all. LOL |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:13:02 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
No. As the other poster said, it’s the corruption & elitism, in addition to the unjust laws. I thought the book “Serpico” helped fix police corruption, but every cop I knew growing up was either corrupt or a thug who used his badge to bully whomever he chose. I think I was around 11 when I wanted to be a cop, then listened to family friends brag about seized money, contraband & thuggery and decided—I don’t want to be that. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:14:07 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Correct. In a separate thread, it was generally agreed that Police Chiefs are appointed, not elected. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Wrong. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:15:49 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Me? Two... why? Because in one case the Judge personally knew the suspect and refused to recuse himself since the suspect was financially involved with the judge and the other time was that the State Attorney's Office agreed there was probable cause but declined to prosecute because it "was not a big deal" and he felt it wouldn't do him anything for his election. I present solid cases so they don't get shot down. I come in with mountains of evidence. Prosecutors and Judges after reading my probable cause reports for a warrant never question me on my cases because the detailed evidence I present is that solid. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:16:48 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
LOL no but let it pass. The answer clearly makes you uncomfortable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
I explained to you discretion and how it applies to me daily. I can't wait until school starts up again and the kids go back. I look forward to Brownells cracking down on such things. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:17:38 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Could say that about any profession or category. "I used to respect doctors, but their blatant over prescribing opioids (On a national level) Has changed my opinion of them." "I Used to respect clergy, but their abuse of children and the fleecing of their congregations (on a national level) has changed my opinion of them" "I used to respect women, but their abuse of their sexuality and falsely accusing men of rape or sexual misconduct (On a national level) has changed my opinion of them" OP, you're falling for a false narrative pushed by a media with an agenda. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:17:49 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So you're saying I present false evidence? LOL Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Smoke and mirrors IMO, how many warrants ever get denied? Many times the requesting officers just make shit up, confidential informants and all. LOL |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:17:51 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
If the 28th Amendment voids the 2nd how is that unconstitutional? Show your work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
You are a fool, and I don't say that often. It has to be amended, and that process is clearly delineated in the document. I recommend you read it. You clearly haven't. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:19:46 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
LOL.... I can't wait until school starts up again and the kids go back. I look forward to Brownells cracking down on such things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I explained to you discretion and how it applies to me daily. I can't wait until school starts up again and the kids go back. I look forward to Brownells cracking down on such things. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/13/2019 12:19:58 AM EDT
[#35]
COC #7. LEO bashing.
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
