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Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:38:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762] [#1]


They are practicing terrorism.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:38:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By macro:
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White Phosphorus shell. Air burst and scatters burning metal (like sodium, won't stop burning) in a pattern. That flying squid pattern almost always means that type of shell.

Used for "marking" or lighting officially however if it gets on you it burrows in and burns, and it starts fires. Officially why it's 'illegal' according to some pussies that have no business talking about war. It's a good option if you are trying to start something on fire. It replaced napalm in a lot of roles.

"Willie Pete" "WP" and other names.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:41:31 AM EDT
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Shock and Awe was more intense during the coverage. Seems tactics have changed as years have gone by.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:42:04 AM EDT
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Not seeing this reported anywhere else.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:42:17 AM EDT
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I'd like to see a map of that delivery route. Lol.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:43:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By clickclickBOOM:


NAS Pensacola couldn’t even stop one terrorist killing navy personnel on base with a Glock. It took our sheriff deputies to stop that stupidity. Training Muslim terrorists to fly is insanity. If our navy wants to keep doing that why here? Train them in some Middle East base.
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There is a reason why FOIA requests inquiring about how many Afghan pilots that were in the US training have gone missing are rejected.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:46:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GunGuyMP:
This may seem silly, paranoid or a combination of both but with Israel about to step into Gaza things are going to happen really fast.

Domestically there are a lot of people that sympathize with this disgusting behavior and will want to lash out at US support for Israel.
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Given that BLM (likely Antifa) and the violent side of the Trans movement are in support, to include a good number of vibrant college kids looking for any excuse to riot/protest, several outspoken, pro-Hamas public "servants", and just about all of our antisemitic immigrants...keep your head on a swivel. We have to travel just north of Atlanta this weekend and I'm not looking forward to it.

ROCK6
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:46:46 AM EDT
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Israeli airstrike footage:

Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:49:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lost-Drive-In:
I would think that all of Gaza is in easy range for conventional artillery from Israel. I'm surprised that they prefer to use air strikes. That suggests to me that they are going out of their way to be careful with targeting.

IMO an impressive display of restraint.
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Remember gw1 and the US putting TLAMs through doorways?  The IAF is doing similar to get 14 story buildings to drop in their own footprint.   I don't think we've ever done that.   They are conducting controlled demolitions with F16s.  

What takes engineers and demo experts weeks of work and a bunch of cutting charges the IAF is doing in half a second, from a plane doing 500 kts.

I may be simple, but it's very impressive and I think the effort they are putting in to contain damages to the target is under appreciated.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:49:29 AM EDT
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Good God!  Soldiers don't kidnap hostages, especially civilians, they don't target civilians, they don't use their own civilians as human shields.  Calling Hamas soldiers is the worst of euphemisms, it is a lie.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:49:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By The_Master_Shake:
Civ Div talks a bit about the tunnels in Gaza

Didn't think if him as an SME but he makes some good points

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhQvILxOoEg
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I’d be worth a huge pipeline to pump the Med Ocean into the tunnels.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:49:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:

No, they're not "soldiers" and they're worse than terrorists. These fuckers are subhuman demons who deserve nothing more than a kinetic ticket in the forehead for a trip straight to hell. Just like communists, Hamas and their ilk are not and should not be viewed as human beings...God may have created them, but they have sold their souls to Satan.

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Originally Posted By Gunner226:


I wish we could use a different word than "terrorists." I feel like it's kind of like "assault rifle." It's a term used to take attention off the real threat by focusing on the tool, rather than the people using it.

These aren't "terrorists." They're soldiers. We just don't want to identify them as such because doing so would force us to also identify the "nation" they're fighting for, and that would be politically incorrect.

No, they're not "soldiers" and they're worse than terrorists. These fuckers are subhuman demons who deserve nothing more than a kinetic ticket in the forehead for a trip straight to hell. Just like communists, Hamas and their ilk are not and should not be viewed as human beings...God may have created them, but they have sold their souls to Satan.

ROCK6

Amen
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:51:37 AM EDT
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What’s coming is coming, it’s only a matter of time.

I’d prefer sooner, while I’m still young enough and my son is not yet old enough.

Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:53:23 AM EDT
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As if giving the Palestinians an independent nation is gonna stop their bullshit….they done fucked up this time.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:55:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlamTX:
I'd like to see a map of that delivery route. Lol.
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I'd like to see a map of that delivery route. Lol.

How would they plan on getting them there? Lol they know damn well Israel would blast any shop trying to get there with ballistic missiles
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:56:38 AM EDT
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Unfortunately I don’t think that will put that POS on a watch list but it should. Personally, if I see any such garbage in my AO I’ll do my best to take pictures. I’ll then do my best to learn how to use social media. The left post’s pictures of anything they find offensive and “cancel” people. Why can’t the rest of the country use the same tactic to let everyone know who these d-bags are? I don’t see that violating any legal or ethical boundaries but it might get you sued for some “civil rights” nonsense.

If the POS in that picture was wanting a job, to buy a used car, rent an apartment from you….much less date your daughter, I suspect 99% of the population would want nothing to do with them
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:56:54 AM EDT
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It will be interesting to see if the Israeli's can effectively keep enemy drones out of the air. If not, as we've seen from Ukraine, they are going to have an even harder time. On the other hand if I was an Israeli commander on the ground I would want my drones buzzing everywhere, looking in literally every former window of any building still standing for snipers, spotters, etc.

The WW3 apocalypse talk seems hopefully a little overblown. On the one hand everyone says the Pali's are scum of the muslim world, then on the other hands everyone says they're going to draw everyone into the fight. Doubt it. No one, outside maybe Hezbollah is going to stick their neck out for Hamas or even a bunch of civilians that they don't want to take on.

Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:57:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoVa:
Originally Posted By gre24ene:
Recently, my wife has become interested in WWII.  I was telling her how brutal the Japanese were, so she went down that rabbit hole.

She just asked me "Do you think "hamas" are more brutal towards their enemies that the Japanese were"?

After thinking on it, I don't think there is any doubt that 'hamas' is way more barbaric.

Thoughts?



I would have thought that a few months ago but I recently read "rape of Nanking" and now I'm not so sure.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/427921/LO5cC_xAfRaX9XTUYQjv_QwoKVKhx1RBJa2gHNJy-2986530.JPG
Both Germany and Japan were turned on and then turned off by their leaders.  Japans emperor told everyone to stop and now we have peaceful Japan

Given the muslim religion, I don't believe its possible.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:58:58 AM EDT
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The individuals who perpetrated the deliberate and despicable acts against innocents at the Kibutzes are in no way shape or form "soldiers", they are evil demonic pigs who do not belong living among the human race. Any individual or group of individuals who deliberately murder toddlers in their cribs, murder babies, and brutally rape and abuse women based on ethnicity or religion, then torture and defile their bodies and glorify their actions are a tool of Satan, nothing else.

You insult and denigrate those of us who did serve honorably as soldiers with your post.

Link Posted: 10/11/2023 7:59:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Remember gw1 and the US putting TLAMs through doorways?  The IAF is doing similar to get 14 story buildings to drop in their own footprint.   I don't think we've ever done that.   They are conducting controlled demolitions with F16s.  

What takes engineers and demo experts weeks of work and a bunch of cutting charges the IAF is doing in half a second, from a plane doing 500 kts.

I may be simple, but it's very impressive and I think the effort they are putting in to contain damages to the target is under appreciated.
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Originally Posted By Lost-Drive-In:
I would think that all of Gaza is in easy range for conventional artillery from Israel. I'm surprised that they prefer to use air strikes. That suggests to me that they are going out of their way to be careful with targeting.

IMO an impressive display of restraint.
Remember gw1 and the US putting TLAMs through doorways?  The IAF is doing similar to get 14 story buildings to drop in their own footprint.   I don't think we've ever done that.   They are conducting controlled demolitions with F16s.  

What takes engineers and demo experts weeks of work and a bunch of cutting charges the IAF is doing in half a second, from a plane doing 500 kts.

I may be simple, but it's very impressive and I think the effort they are putting in to contain damages to the target is under appreciated.



Yep they do alot of planning with there strikes, even coming in a certain direction sending a Jdam down an alley to hit a building just right at the base. And sometimes from different directions using multiple aircraft on one building
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:00:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SteelonSteel:

I'd be worth a huge pipeline to pump the Med Ocean into the tunnels.
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Originally Posted By SteelonSteel:
Originally Posted By The_Master_Shake:
Civ Div talks a bit about the tunnels in Gaza

Didn't think if him as an SME but he makes some good points

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhQvILxOoEg

I'd be worth a huge pipeline to pump the Med Ocean into the tunnels.
CavDiv forgets that Israel isn't Turkey.

It's all fun and games 'til the thermobarics come out.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:03:18 AM EDT
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Bring it
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@CarmelBytheSea Monica✊🏻
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:03:56 AM EDT
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More booms, more crowing...sun is rising. I think that really was a rooster.
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I hadn’t spent much time watching the live feeds but finally heard the FO bird last night around midnight local time. First time in 250+ pages that I cracked a bit of a smile.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:04:25 AM EDT
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Booms are no where near big enough!
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:05:00 AM EDT
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Part of the reason for having rules, even for war, is so that when the tide inevitably turns against you, there are standards of behavior that everyone follows.  

The implication being that if you don't adhere to these rules, your enemy is not obligated to adhere either.   Behave like a barbarian, you will be treated like one.  

This social contract has no meaning if it's not enforced.  This is where this conflict is now.  

Israel can certainly choose to take the high road, but after these attacks by Hamas they are not  obligated.  Any attempt to hold Israel to these obligations will fail.   I don't think any culture has a greater sensitivity to existential threat than Israel, it has been earned.

TL:DR  this shit is going to be brutal.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:05:12 AM EDT
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Make Crusades Great Again.



Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:06:19 AM EDT
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FBI: A bunch of great people, just a few bad apples at the top.

Gaza/Hamas: A bunch of great people, just a few bad apples at the top.

1930s Germany: A bunch.......
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:08:23 AM EDT
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Yep they do alot of planning with there strikes, even coming in a certain direction sending a Jdam down an alley to hit a building just right at the base. And sometimes from different directions using multiple aircraft on one building
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Yes, the sophistication of the strikes is easy to overlook.  I've seen several near simultaneous impact 90 degrees offset from each other to cause the building to not just fail, but to fail in the intended direction.

They really do look like controlled demos.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:12:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:


Give it another week of round the clock air strikes.

I really want it to go well for the idf but I’d feel a lot better know they were still getting hammered with preparatory fires for a while.
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Give it another week of round the clock air strikes.

I really want it to go well for the idf but I’d feel a lot better know they were still getting hammered with preparatory fires for a while.


I agree, but their blood is up and international support for Israel’s actions will never be higher.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:12:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:

While I’m not as dismissive as GD when it comes to hypersonics I’m confident Iran 🇮🇷 doesn’t have them
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What type of anti-ship assets is not the most important “big picture” subject. Not even if what they have is capable of penetrating all the levels of defenses we should have in place. Most important topic is the big IF they use them. Iran fires at one of our ships and we will be in direct combat with them (and probably others). Might not be a bad thing but large scale combat operations, even just Navy/AF, changes everything. It will even have a major impact on the next election cycle. I’m not saying that’s some even plan, I’m just saying trying to sink a USN vessel of that stature will absolutely kick things up a few orders of magnitude
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:12:51 AM EDT
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Fresh kabooms on the Reuters feed.

Live: Watch the Gaza skyline after Hamas launched rockets into Israel
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:13:37 AM EDT
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Anyone see the tweet by Sovereign Brah advising that Hamas has called for global jihad on Friday and recommending people in Europe and America stay out of large cities/events? No time stamp on it, it was a screen shot posted to another forum, and also outlining what the hamas leader is asking muslims to do to support them.  Can anyone verify this?
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:13:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SteelonSteel:




I'd be worth a huge pipeline to pump the Med Ocean into the tunnels.
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Egypt built fish farms to flood the tunnels https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4696275,00.html
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:14:26 AM EDT
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Stuff blowing up right in front of this Reuters live stream

Live: Watch the Gaza skyline after Hamas launched rockets into Israel
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:16:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dixie2009:
Anyone see the tweet by Sovereign Brah advising that Hamas has called for global jihad on Friday and recommending people in Europe and America stay out of large cities/events? No time stamp on it, it was a screen shot posted to another forum, and also outlining what the hamas leader is asking muslims to do to support them.  Can anyone verify this?
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Saw it.

No idea whether real or just fear mongering.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:16:26 AM EDT
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This is something everyone needs to watch.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:17:19 AM EDT
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Sounds like the ground invasion part of Operation No Mas Hamas is about to kick off soon
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:17:38 AM EDT
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Air bursting the shit out of that marina.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:18:21 AM EDT
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Sounds like the ground invasion part of Operation No Mas Hamas is about to kick off soon
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No power and ~3 hours till sunset. I’d wager it’s close.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:18:57 AM EDT
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The feed I'm watching currently you can here the incoming rounds.  I'm guessing these are large artillery shells coming in now?  May have to scroll back a few seconds or minutes to here them whirling in.  Right after the camera scans away from the thick smoke cloud to a nearby building behind him.

Live: Gaza skyline as Israeli airstrikes continue to bombard territory
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:19:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By byron2112:

So is that where they live now... under the rubble?
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Bomb it again.

So is that where they live now... under the rubble?


I'm going to Hell!

When I saw that I laughed and started singing Under the Boardwalk.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:20:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:


Remember your history?

https://assets.rbl.ms/17282259/origin.jpg

We turned those islands into worse than moonscapes, and still had massive death tolls to take them.

Because the japanese had burrowed in.

Hamas has too. For decades.

I'm not military anything, but I feel pretty safe saying that if you need to take and hold ground, that means infantry.
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It does. If you knew just how big a number the causality estimates that were kicking around several years ago when it looked like the balloon was going up in Korea you’d likely be shocked how big it was. Enemy significantly dug in and the grunts need to go in and dig them out. Artillery and air strikes may degrade defenses but they can’t destroy them entirely
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:21:28 AM EDT
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No idea, but very cool.

The Marina is now closed due to unforeseen circumstances.
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Proximity fused artillery?
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:22:43 AM EDT
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The one on that building looked just like WP.  No real boom, just fire and a lot of white smoke.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:23:56 AM EDT
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Looks like the Gaza Yacht Club is taking some rounds.
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:25:53 AM EDT
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My wife just learned she had an employee who lost his life defending (successfully) his wife and child.
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We need one of these with an Israeli flag. Mine should be here today. Not Israeli or Jewish but it’ll be up 5 minutes after it gets here
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:26:08 AM EDT
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Air bursting the shit out of that marina.
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Not sure what they are trying to hit but if that boat was mine that shit keeps landing near I would probably exit the area with it.
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