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Testimony from previous rounds of fighting in Gaza has indicated that Hamas conducts military activity from within hospitals, mosques, churches and schools, or from areas adjacent to them.
This, in order to prevent Hamas' leaders, operatives and weapons from being targeted by Israel, and sometimes also in order to deliberately provoke Israel into attacking these sites.(Videos at the link). The following are statements about this from officials, journalists and intellectuals in the Arab world that have been published by MEMRI over the years. Dirar Belhoul Al-Falasi, a member of the UAE's Federal National Council, said in an October 13, 2020 interview on Kwait's Diwan Al-Mulla Online TV: "People from the Red Crescent told us that they built a hospital [in Gaza]... This hospital was for treating Palestinians. People from Hamas fired a rocket from the hospital's roof, so that Israel would bomb this hospital. Just see how low they can go..." View Quote Speaking on an Al-Jazeera TV show amid the 2014 round of fighting between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, American-Egyptian writer Magdi Khalil criticized Hamas' claim to have the moral high ground, saying: "Is it moral to launch missiles from hospitals, from schools, from bedrooms, from mosques, and from the roof of a church, where thousands of Gazans had found refuge? The church's priest was interviewed on CBN and said: "From the roof of this church, Hamas members are launching missiles at Israel. We welcomed them in our church, but they began launching missiles at Israel from the roof." Is this the moral high ground that my colleague is talking about?! "Is it moral for Hamas leaders to hide in Al-Shifa Hospital, thus risking the lives of regular people? Is this the moral high ground? They are fleeing like rats, hiding behind patients in Gaza hospitals. Is it moral for Hamas leaders to hide behind these patients? "They garner sympathy over the corpses of children. This is part of the strategy of the Islamists. They consider sympathy garnered over the corpses of children to be a victory… "The whole world knows that Hamas does not care about the spirit of humanity. They do not care about the children, about their people, about the losses, about the destruction of their country, or about the number of casualties. View Quote In a speech he delivered at the Arab American University in Jenin in October 13, 2009, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas noted that, during the round of fighting between Israel and Gaza in December 2008/January 2009, Hamas leaders had used ambulances to flee Gaza, leaving the populace to do without these emergency vehicles. He said: "When the [Israeli] aggression took place, [Hamas leaders] in Gaza and abroad said: 'We don’t care if Gaza is erased.' They do not care if Gaza is erased. All they care about is that the Hamas movement continue to exist. They said this. Haniya and Mash’al said: We don’t care what happens. Mash’al went even further and said: 'What is happening in Gaza is insignificant and does not affect us.' Then they said that the Hamas movement is alive and well. "The Hamas movement was hiding under the domes [of mosques]. The Hamas leaders – and I say this for the first time – fled to the Sinai in ambulances, leaving their people behind to be slaughtered. Then they say: We put up resistance." View Quote Researcher Amjad Taha, a regional director at the British Middle East Center for Studies and Research (BMCSR), said in a November 2018 interview on Russia Today that Hamas was launching missiles at Israel from the roofs of schools and hospitals on orders from Qatar and in coordination with Iran, provoking Israel to respond. "What is happening in Gaza now is that Hamas, at the order of Qatar – from which it has just received funds – and in coordination with Iran, is firing missiles from the roofs of schools and hospitals, and then the other side is retaliating against them. They are blood merchants who follow the orders of Iran." View Quote In his December 4, 2015 column on the liberal website Elaph.com, Kurdish-Iraqi writer Mehdi Majid 'Abdallah stated that Palestinians were harmed by Israeli fire because Hamas was using mosques and schools as launch pads for its rockets. He wrote: "The Palestinian women and children who are killed in the Israeli army's defensive war against Hamas are not killed deliberately. They are collateral damage, for any war has innocent victims… Were it not for the reckless actions of Hamas, which constantly fires rockets into extensive parts of Israel [where] peaceful [people live], there would have been no innocent victims, because Israel's actions are directed against the terrorists… If the Palestinians want to avoid being harmed by Israeli fire, they should prevent Hamas from using their homes, mosques and schools [as bases from which] to launch its terrorist rockets at Israel." View Quote |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
Originally Posted By xmission: One Arabs opinion View Quote |
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America did not become a superpower by working from home or from a cubicle.
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Originally Posted By HIPPO: Posted about 20 mins ago. #الشرق_عاجل Jordanian Foreign Minister: We will consider any attempt to displace Palestinians from the West Bank as a declaration of war #عاجل View Quote Because Jordan doesn’t want Palestinian refugees. |
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver: The Gaza Wadi will be the new Northern Gaza border. View Quote This has been my thought for a while. Much of the still standing buildings have been damaged by the bombing of near-by targets, tunnels will have to be imploded, not to mention damage from the upcoming ground ops. Basically much of the area will have to be raized; why give it back? |
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Originally Posted By tsg68: If they don’t cave they would have jihadists beheading civilians in public with a largely ineffective and mostly unarmed police force opposing it. Trojan horse. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tsg68: Originally Posted By Shoresy: To me as an outsider, it appears the UK gov has long bent the knee to the Muslim population in its borders. History shows us appeasement is a failed strategy. If they don’t cave they would have jihadists beheading civilians in public with a largely ineffective and mostly unarmed police force opposing it. Trojan horse. Some lessons are only learned the hard way |
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Information operations is a lot like all other forms of warfare, being the 'firstest with the mostest' typically wins.
Hamas was able to quickly turn the hospital event to their favor and the headlines got out. It doesnt matter what the truth is as most middle of the roaders will never research far enough to see it. A strong I/O campaign has to focus on preempting these storylines as they will never be quick enough being reactive to be effective. All over twitter and even here you see specious arguments being paraded as logic to support predetermined conclusions. Human capacity for logic is often short circuited by confirmation bias. |
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Staunch proponent of dangerous freedom.
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Originally Posted By Mike_314: Transcript: Hamass1: Hello? Durka durka Mo-hammad Jihad, is that you? This is the rocket launch mullah and goat fornicator, Waga waba Al-tampon. Hamass1: Uh, we fucked up bigly. Uh, we dropped our rocket on our own hospital. Mr haram. Uh, sorry? Hamass2: BY THE BEARD OF THE PROPHET I TOLD YOU NOT TO LET ABU HAJAAR ANYWHERE NEAR THOSE ROCKETS!!!!!!! YOU SON OF A CAMELS ASSHOLE!!!!!! Hamass1: Insh'Allah? Hamass2: INSH'ALLAH MY MURDERING ASS. THAT'S IT. I'M MAILING YOUR CELLPHONE TO THE MOSSAD. EXPECT A CALL WHEN IT GETS BACK. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mike_314: Hamass1: Hello? Durka durka Mo-hammad Jihad, is that you? This is the rocket launch mullah and goat fornicator, Waga waba Al-tampon. Hamass1: Uh, we fucked up bigly. Uh, we dropped our rocket on our own hospital. Mr haram. Uh, sorry? Hamass2: BY THE BEARD OF THE PROPHET I TOLD YOU NOT TO LET ABU HAJAAR ANYWHERE NEAR THOSE ROCKETS!!!!!!! YOU SON OF A CAMELS ASSHOLE!!!!!! Hamass1: Insh'Allah? Hamass2: INSH'ALLAH MY MURDERING ASS. THAT'S IT. I'M MAILING YOUR CELLPHONE TO THE MOSSAD. EXPECT A CALL WHEN IT GETS BACK. |
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There is not a more violent principle in the world than conscience misinformed. - Matthew Henry
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis |
Originally Posted By nophun: This has been my thought for a while. Much of the still standing buildings have been damaged by the bombing of near-by targets, tunnels will have to be imploded, not to mention damage from the upcoming ground ops. Basically much of the area will have to be raized; why give it back? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nophun: Originally Posted By texashomeserver: The Gaza Wadi will be the new Northern Gaza border. This has been my thought for a while. Much of the still standing buildings have been damaged by the bombing of near-by targets, tunnels will have to be imploded, not to mention damage from the upcoming ground ops. Basically much of the area will have to be raized; why give it back? are we talking about the same location?? my understanding is that would be over 1/2 of Gaza ETA: or is this "gaza wadi" not the same as "Wadi as Salqa"? |
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I’ll lead an effective strategy to mobilize trunalimunumaprzure.
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Originally Posted By tsg68: Because Jordan doesn’t want Palestinian refugees. View Quote Half the population is under 16 and have been raised with an unprecidented amount of martyrdom propaganda in their lives and militarized as weapons. Yeah, not sure anyone wants to eat that shit sandwich. |
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Imagine this: A day of Muslim rage around the world to protest a tragedy their shitty craftsmanship caused, in an evil war they started.
The sports equivalent would be a basketball player on defense taking a cheap shot at a driving member of the offensive team, then after knocking said player to the floor and leaving them bleeding from a gash to the head, that defensive player picks up the ball and dunks it on the offensive team's end of the floor, scoring 2 for the other team. And after all that, the player gets pissed at the officials for awarding two points to the other team and calling a technical foul/ejecting said player, even with the situation being apparent in the instant replays. |
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I stand with Ukraine. Fuck Putin! And fuck Russia!
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Originally Posted By jb31: No belt feds or frags? We've seen this before somewhere. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jb31: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
No belt feds or frags? We've seen this before somewhere. |
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Translation: The Chief of Staff at the Tel Nof base: "We fight with determination and remain human, unlike the other side, who fight like animals"
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Imagine this: A day of Muslim rage around the world to protest a tragedy their shitty craftsmanship caused, in an evil war they started. The sports equivalent would be a basketball player on defense taking a cheap shot at a driving member of the offensive team, then after knocking said player to the floor and leaving them bleeding from a gash to the head, that defensive player picks up the ball and dunks it on the offensive team's end of the floor, scoring 2 for the other team. And after all that, the player gets pissed at the officials for awarding two points to the other team and calling a technical foul/ejecting said player, even with the situation being apparent in the instant replays. View Quote |
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Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Spoiler alert: He says "Netanyahu, burn these criminals!" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Originally Posted By xmission: One Arabs opinion Damn |
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Imagine this: A day of Muslim rage around the world to protest a tragedy their shitty craftsmanship caused, in an evil war they started. The sports equivalent would be a basketball player on defense taking a cheap shot at a driving member of the offensive team, then after knocking said player to the floor and leaving them bleeding from a gash to the head, that defensive player picks up the ball and dunks it on the offensive team's end of the floor, scoring 2 for the other team. And after all that, the player gets pissed at the officials for awarding two points to the other team and calling a technical foul/ejecting said player, even with the situation being apparent in the instant replays. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By realwar: Translation: The Chief of Staff at the Tel Nof base: "We fight with determination and remain human, unlike the other side, who fight like animals" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QazHGHoK02E View Quote Chief of Staff Sean "We fight with determination and will be WORSE animals than the other side, until every single one of their souls are a footnote in history." |
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Originally Posted By SAE: It most certainly is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SAE: Originally Posted By Klee: Originally Posted By realwar: The hospital is having a presser surrounded with dead children. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/18/01/76687527-12642403-image-a-84_1697590472336.jpg Using the bodies of dead children like that. That's just sick. It most certainly is. |
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Originally Posted By xmission: One Arabs opinion View Quote I didn’t know we could embed Instagram videos. When did this wizardry happen? |
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Teach me to live, that I may dread the grave as little as my bed.
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Teach me to live, that I may dread the grave as little as my bed.
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Originally Posted By Sierra5: Half the population is under 16 and have been raised with an unprecidented amount of martyrdom propaganda in their lives and militarized as weapons. View Quote Coming to a neighborhood near you: Stabbing for kids : Palestinian girl gives demo Fatah supports child soldiers and child martyrdom Hamas to kids: Shoot all the Jews Hamas Mickey Mouse Is 'Martyred' by Israelis |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
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Originally Posted By Sean124: What is the average IQ of the area? I remember seeing a ridiculously low number but forget. View Quote |
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Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By Logcutter: About 5 points higher than the GD average..... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Logcutter: Originally Posted By Sean124: What is the average IQ of the area? I remember seeing a ridiculously low number but forget. About 5 points higher than the GD average..... So really fuckin low. |
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This multicam live stream features a pro-palistine protest getting broken up by the cops. Seen some good bodyslams by the cops. Not sure the country. The protestors' chanting "Shame on you" is in English but the police markings appear German?
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Hey. Biden announced 100 million dollars for east Palestine.
Woohooo (Shuffles papers) “Uh. Sir. This isn’t east Palestine. It’s the OG Palestine.” “Can we still play bingo later?” “Yes sir. Absolutely” |
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— Embassy of Israel to the USA | #IsraelUSA75 (@IsraelinUSA) October 18, 2023this is 100 |
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Can’t make this shit up. Unless they are talking about the misinformation about hamas being bad. |
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Originally Posted By michigan66: Coming to a neighborhood near you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBtEDMsl_SM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfCr1PT3xCY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORAM-usqhQ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By Sierra5: Half the population is under 16 and have been raised with an unprecidented amount of martyrdom propaganda in their lives and militarized as weapons. Coming to a neighborhood near you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBtEDMsl_SM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfCr1PT3xCY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORAM-usqhQ Everyone should be watching Ben Shapiro since this attack. THIS Is How Propaganda Works |
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"The Freedoms and Liberties you have exercised and enjoyed all these years were not given, but were secured by blood. Once given away, it will take blood once again to re-secure them." -Rob Schneider
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Originally Posted By AZ_M1: Our Gubmint is run by evil idiots with absolutely no common sense. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AZ_M1: Originally Posted By dedreckon: Your DHS at work, or more 5th columnists in Bidens government https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-u-s-govt-hired-a-pro-hamas-plo-spokeswoman-to-handle-asylum-claims The U.S. immigration enforcement agency hired a former spokeswoman for the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) and put her in a position to determine who gets to come into the country as an immigrant or “asylum seeker.” Now the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officer is repeatedly posting pictures of Hamas terrorists parachuting in with guns and writing, “F*** Israel and any Jew who supports Israel,” a Daily Wire investigation found. https://dw-wp-production.imgix.net/2023/10/unnamed-3-1019x576.png Our Gubmint is run by evil idiots with absolutely no common sense. Just wrote a letter to Cruz asking him to have her investigated, fired and bared from holding any government positions going forward. |
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How much did Joe negotiate for himself and Hunter after this is all over? That’s what he does. He runs a criminal family business enterprise.
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Has the IDF been killing people still? I haven’t had time to watch any streams.
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Gonads & Strife
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Gonads & Strife
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Originally Posted By Mike_314: Transcript: Hamass1: Hello? Durka durka Mo-hammad Jihad, is that you? This is the rocket launch mullah and goat fornicator, Waga waba Al-tampon. Hamass1: Uh, we fucked up bigly. Uh, we dropped our rocket on our own hospital. Mr haram. Uh, sorry? Hamass2: BY THE BEARD OF THE PROPHET I TOLD YOU NOT TO LET ABU HAJAAR ANYWHERE NEAR THOSE ROCKETS!!!!!!! YOU SON OF A CAMELS ASSHOLE!!!!!! Hamass1: Insh'Allah? Hamass2: INSH'ALLAH MY MURDERING ASS. THAT'S IT. I'M MAILING YOUR CELLPHONE TO THE MOSSAD. EXPECT A CALL WHEN IT GETS BACK. View Quote Not trying to be a stickler, but has that transcript been declassified… don’t want to get a knock on the door from nsa or worse and get brownelled! |
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Originally Posted By nmxdavenn: According to the whole of the media they killed a bunch of people at a hospital. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nmxdavenn: Originally Posted By GutWrench: Has the IDF been killing people still? I haven’t had time to watch any streams. According to the whole of the media they killed a bunch of people at a hospital. I seen’t it. But has the bombing continued? |
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Gonads & Strife
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Originally Posted By michigan66: Coming to a neighborhood near you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBtEDMsl_SM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfCr1PT3xCY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORAM-usqhQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3vGDmdEP_0 View Quote If I didn't know this was real, I'd think it was some kind of Borat comedy bit |
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Originally Posted By nmxdavenn: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/478694/IMG_7690_png-2996167.JPG Can't make this shit up. Unless they are talking about the misinformation about hamas being bad. View Quote They should look in the mirror. They are repeating bullshit that was disproven yesterday. They still have a front page article that repeats Hamas' bullshit claims. "Another doctor told the BBC that 80% of the hospital had been taken out of service and estimated that 1,000 people had been killed or injured." WTF? |
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I'm not the one REEING, motherfucker! -FCSD2162
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Originally Posted By Logcutter: About 5 points higher than the GD average..... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Logcutter: Originally Posted By Sean124: What is the average IQ of the area? I remember seeing a ridiculously low number but forget. About 5 points higher than the GD average..... That's giving GD a lot of credit |
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The best way to help yourself is to help others. -unknown
Before you ask, Biden sucks, Putin sucks, Zelensky sucks, Ukraine is a giant money laundering scheme, and Trump sucks I'm voting for Camacho '24 |
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Biden's whole 'other team' schtick - why won't he just say the name?
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“...in the hands of politicians grand designs achieve nothing but new forms of the old misery...”
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Originally Posted By MrGoodkat: Everyone should be watching Ben Shapiro since this attack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3QJq4dMINA View Quote The show "Tomorrow's Pioneers" is the goofiest. The animal characters are all killed by the "Zionist entity", either beaten, dying for lack of medical treatment, or in an airstrike on the TV studio. Hamas puppet: I declare war on the Zionists Hamas Mickey Mouse Is 'Martyred' by Israelis mickey hamaus 1 from memritv.org (english) Hamas' Children TV with a Terrorist Jew Eating Rabbit |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
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Originally Posted By michigan66: Coming to a neighborhood near you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBtEDMsl_SM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfCr1PT3xCY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORAM-usqhQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3vGDmdEP_0 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By Sierra5: Half the population is under 16 and have been raised with an unprecidented amount of martyrdom propaganda in their lives and militarized as weapons. Coming to a neighborhood near you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBtEDMsl_SM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfCr1PT3xCY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORAM-usqhQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3vGDmdEP_0 If I didn't know this was real, I'd have thought it was some kind of Borat comedy bit |
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BBC backtracks a little.
Gaza hospital: What video, pictures and other evidence tell us about Al Ahli hospital blast |
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
I've only gotten two warnings in almost 15 years and over 91,000 posts...and I'm an asshole. I don't know how guys rack up all these warnings and temp locks. |
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