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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:56:42 AM EST
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If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more ‎violence. If the Jews put ‎down their weapons ‎today, there would be no ‎more Israel
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:59:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:

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Oh, they will still be voting democrat, multiple times over

Just wait until we witness the new and improved democrat voting fraud for 2024
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:08:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By PoiDog:


Zero the Hero is the perfect name for this mutt. Zero ability, zero talent, zero class, and zero care for the country.

He was the worst president we've ever had, even making the peanut farmer look good. And then, Biden comes mumbling and stumbling along.

If there was a trophy for worst president ever, it would be retired in favor of Biden.

Zero is most definitely a POS though.
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Originally Posted By azjeeper:

He's an absolute POS at the very least.


Zero the Hero is the perfect name for this mutt. Zero ability, zero talent, zero class, and zero care for the country.

He was the worst president we've ever had, even making the peanut farmer look good. And then, Biden comes mumbling and stumbling along.

If there was a trophy for worst president ever, it would be retired in favor of Biden.

Zero is most definitely a POS though.


So far, Buchanan has that trophy wrapped up.  However, Slow Joe is still in office, so there is time for him to win!
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:13:48 AM EST
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Israel-Hamas War Day 30 | Abbas to Blinken: PA Willing to Take Control Over Gaza as Part of Diplomatic Solution Nov 5, 2023

Israeli army says 29 soldiers, officers killed in ongoing ground offensive ■ Blinken meets Abbas in Ramallah after saying U.S., Arab states agree Hamas-controlled status quo in Gaza cannot continue ■ One wounded after missile fired from Lebanon hits northern Israel ■ Hamas: Over 60 hostages missing due to Israeli airstrikes on Gaza ■ 242 hostages held in Gaza, 40 remain missing ■ At least 1,300 civilians and soldiers killed in Hamas massacre ■ Hamas' Health Ministry: Over 9,000 killed in Gaza

Abbas after Blinken meeting: Palestinian Authority willing to take responsibility for Gaza as part of comprehensive political solution

Blinken tells Abbas U.S. committed to getting aid into Gaza and restoring essential services there in West Bank visit

Israeli army releases name of additional soldier killed in Gaza fighting

Egyptian sources: Gaza evacuation suspended after Israeli strike on ambulances

Qatar's Foreign Ministry spokesperson says any hostage release requires a 'period of calm'

Palestinian Health Ministry: 3 Palestinians killed in clashes in West Bank village of Abu Dis

Israeli army: We struck more than 2,500 targets since start of Gaza ground operation
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:21:54 AM EST
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Pretty good video except for showing a Euro Fighter when talking about the F-16

Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:31:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Malhass:

Hamas and the plo are war lords and mafia bosses …
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The mafia does not wantonly target and torture innocent women or children
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:39:33 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:42:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By firemed13:


DOG will hunt!! That made my day way better!! The Oketz unit is amazing and they train the hell out of those dogs and they have saved a lot of the IDFs soldiers lives. Good Dog!!!
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Originally Posted By Dave_Markowitz:
Good boy!




DOG will hunt!! That made my day way better!! The Oketz unit is amazing and they train the hell out of those dogs and they have saved a lot of the IDFs soldiers lives. Good Dog!!!



Would mad boars do a better job by adding the psychological effect of being killed (and possibly partly eaten) by a pig?


Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:48:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By grambosc:


The only thing better would be armored feral hogs loaded up on amphetamines and viagra and sent into those tunnels with cameras.

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Good boy!




The only thing better would be armored feral hogs loaded up on amphetamines and viagra and sent into those tunnels with cameras.

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That's more like it.  


Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:49:33 AM EST
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Would mad boars do a better job by adding the psychological effect of being killed (and possibly partly eaten) by a pig?


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Is it just me, or was that dog attacking the Hamas pig in the crotch?
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:50:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Eroic:
If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more ‎violence. If the Jews put ‎down their weapons ‎today, there would be no ‎more Israel
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:51:27 AM EST
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Is it just me, or was that dog attacking the Hamas pig in the crotch?
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Totally legitimate use of force given the expressed intent of the enemy to breed the next generation of hamas.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:58:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Rossi:



That's more like it.  


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Originally Posted By grambosc:
Originally Posted By Dave_Markowitz:
Good boy!




The only thing better would be armored feral hogs loaded up on amphetamines and viagra and sent into those tunnels with cameras.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/481717/E2D32CEF-BE0E-4F09-8210-A0C80064176A_jpe-3015592.JPG



That's more like it.  



This IS the way.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:59:00 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:00:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar:


Be nice.
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Good place for a moab


Be nice.


Yeah.  A deadly and highly contagious virus would do a better job by keeping the infrastructure intact.


Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:01:06 AM EST
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It's been done plenty from a technical standpoint, but yeah this might be the first time it was real world done in anger.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:01:54 AM EST
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The B-1 doing its thing..

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Such an amazing aircraft.  Loved watching these as a kid at Elsworth.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:02:02 AM EST
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ISF: Israel Space Force.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:02:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By michigan66:
Sunday Times (London): Has Israel set itself an impossible military task? Michael Clarke, visiting professor of defence studies at King’s College London, on the challenges faced by trying to destroy Hamas

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Originally Posted By michigan66:
Sunday Times (London): Has Israel set itself an impossible military task? Michael Clarke, visiting professor of defence studies at King’s College London, on the challenges faced by trying to destroy Hamas

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Israel can certainly defeat Hamas, but destroying it will be a different matter, and that challenge is likely to increase as Israel’s campaign goes on.  Israel’s military has its own vulnerabilities, of course, but none that should prevent it from prevailing over Hamas.  

If Hamas decides to go toe-to-toe with the IDF, even in Gaza’s densely urban environment, it will only end one way.

The preliminary bombing of phase one — more than 11,000 targets hit — was followed by the “break-in” phase two. Phase three is designed to capitalise on earlier gains, cutting across the Wadi Gaza coastal wetlands in the centre of the strip to isolate the northern half of the territory.

The IDF, however, are moving carefully to avoid being suckered into Hamas traps, and they are wary in case Hamas intends to fight all-out only inside Gaza City. It will be at least another week before we, and the IDF, can be sure it has not been lured into an urban killing ground.

At the end of this phase of the campaign, however long it may take, it is likely the IDF will occupy all the territory — at least above ground — from the Erez crossing in the north to the Wadi Gaza, including Gaza City.

But occupying half of Hamas’s territory will still leave the job less than half done. From this point onwards, the IDF’s campaign will face challenges that are unique in modern urban warfare and counterinsurgency.

The entire 360 sq km of the Gaza Strip makes it pretty small, and yet 2.3 million people are trapped inside it with no possibility of escape. No examples in modern history — not Mosul, Fallujah, Mariupol in Ukraine, nor Grozny in Chechnya, Kandahar in Afghanistan, Saigon in Vietnam or Phnom Penh in Cambodia — offer cases of a battlefield where civilians had so little chance to get away, if they chose, before the onslaught of a superior military power.

The Palestinians of Gaza have no opportunity to escape.

Israel will have to face its southern battlefield with a population of about 1.8 million in a density approaching 10,000 people per square kilometre. That’s comparable with the population density of central London, in an area about half the size.

To “destroy Hamas” amid a compacted and already severely distressed civilian population will require some unique thinking. In these circumstances most ancient-world leaders would have resorted to a straight massacre.

But modern military commanders will have to develop some new approaches to urban warfare and counterinsurgency if they are to “destroy” Hamas amid this population.

The one respect in which this war is completely traditional is in its tendency to throw up unexpected consequences, setting off trains of political events it will find difficult to control.


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Professor Michael Clarke is one of my favorite military analysts; an intellectual giant in battlefield and strategic analysis from what I can tell.  

I used to watch him as a guest on Sky News and his observations of the Russian-Ukraine War seemed absolutely spot-on.  He seemed to know more about what the Russians were doing that the Russians did, and I don’t say that in jest.

I would encourage everyone in this thread to take 5 minutes and read his comments.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:05:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
Pretty good video except for showing a Euro Fighter when talking about the F-16

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The video says that the Ford has F16 and A-10s on board. Is this correct?

it also says a B-21 can take off from the Ford. ?????
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:05:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Chaingun:
Oh, they will still be voting democrat, multiple times over

Just wait until we witness the new and improved democrat voting fraud for 2024
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:

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Oh, they will still be voting democrat, multiple times over

Just wait until we witness the new and improved democrat voting fraud for 2024



Oh they will still vote democrat but not for any candidate that could win nationally.

I hope this war weakens the dems hugely.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:07:08 AM EST
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Despite Israel's Fierce Attacks, Hamas Leadership Maintains Control Over Gaza--Amos Harel, Haaretz

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Friday’s speech by Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah promised more than it delivered. He drew some red lines but he did not state exactly what he intends to do. It all suggests that like his Iranian patrons, Nasrallah is willing to fight Israel to the last drop of Palestinian blood.

Key things to keep in mind re:  Hezbollah.  A miscalculation cannot be ruled out. Hezbollah could intensify its attacks further into Galilee, causing the IDF to respond in kind in Lebanon, at which point things could get out of control.  Nasrallah’s remarks could be designed to conceal a surprise attack.  After October 7 one should be cautious in reading the enemy’s intentions. Intelligence agencies, to their credit, are more modest in their assessments than they were before the war.

IDF Chief of Staff said, referring to the northern front, that the Israel Air Force has not yet deployed most of its capabilities in this war.

Fierce battles between the IDF and Hamas continue after Gaza City was in effect surrounded. The IDF is using a “shredding” tactic, progressing slowly and systematically, accompanied by immense amounts of firepower, including from the air. The airstrikes often last just minutes, in accordance with the demands of the ground forces and with little margin for error.

The IDF is employing, for the first time on such a large scale, an ability to rapidly integrate intelligence, technology and firepower. One of the vulnerable aspects still concerns the ability to kill many Hamas fighters in ground battles. Some officers believe that reports of hundreds of dead terrorists are not sufficiently confirmed.

Commanders and reservists who participated in previous operations in the Gaza Strip say there is no comparison between the intensity and destruction this time and that of previous rounds of fighting. In Beit Hanoun, where reserve forces are operating, there are entire neighborhoods that have been completely flattened.

Hamas is not attempting to block the movement of IDF forces. The organization is relying on its defensive tunnel network, sending its fighters up through shafts to launch anti-tank missiles and to deploy explosive charges close to IDF armored vehicles; they are also employing attack drones.flattened

The IDF has introduced large forces into the northern Strip, moving in large numbers of armored vehicles. This, in a war against guerilla forces hiding underground, provides the enemy many targets. Many of the confrontations are at the initiative of Hamas forces.

For now, despite pressure exerted by the IDF, there is no apparent significant effect on Hamas command and control, which continues to function.

U.S. patience with IDF operations in the Gaza Strip is waning, given the prolongation of the fighting. The Washington Post reported that there is a Hamas proposal to release all civilian hostages (but not soldiers) in exchange for a five-day ceasefire.

Even if Israel agreed to ceasefire the more the IDF penetrates urban areas, the harder it will be to halt fire since the army will be in close proximity to Hamas fighters, and that would endanger IDF forces. The Defense Minister Yoav Gallant senior IDF commanders expect to have a period of months in order to defeat Hamas. A ceasefire for hostages deal may put pressure on Israel to permanently stop ground operations
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:08:04 AM EST
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Fucking Oblamer. He’s TO BLAME for wrecking fundamentally transforming our country and fueling the fires and chaos in the Middle East
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:08:25 AM EST
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The pictures of the tunnel shaft in the courtyard of the Qatari Hamad Hospital, revealed by the IDF spokesman, are nothing short of amazing.
https://t.me/beholdisraelchannel/22146

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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:12:01 AM EST
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Israeli correspondent Roy Sharon reporting inside Gaza with the 162nd division, November 4th 2023
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:15:57 AM EST
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Was it in a low enough orbit that the debris will fall back to earth or be burnt up on re-entry, or will the debris remain in orbit?
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:18:43 AM EST
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Willy's interview with  IDF SF guy.

A Dreadful Clarity - The Problem With Tunnels - Israeli Paratrooper Commander Interview
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:22:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Piratepast40:

Was it in a low enough orbit that the debris will fall back to earth or be burnt up on re-entry, or will the debris remain in orbit?
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Ballistic trajectories.  Getting to orbit requires a LOT more energy.  Can't say some bits might not get a longer ride but it's all coming back down.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:23:43 AM EST
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I'm just waiting for this commie pope to "run away from the Vatican over the dead bodies of priests and bishops".  Things will get really sporty then.


Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:27:32 AM EST
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Translation:The Islamic Resistance in Iraq publishes a video of a suicide march launched towards an American military base west of Hasakah


???????? ????????? ?? ?????? ???? ????? ?????? ????? ???????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????? ??? ??????
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:33:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Curmudgeon762:


For those organizing, yes. The fact that do many are willing to follow is reminiscent of pre war Germany I suspect.

I sincerely hope that “all enemies, both foreign and domestic” doesn’t become relative here. I’m older, and this is the first time in my life I could see a potential for WIDESPREAD fighting within our borders.
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Originally Posted By Curmudgeon762:
Originally Posted By Durka-Durka:

It's not really about reason. It's not about morals, either.  It's about power. Everyone who supports hamas, blm, antifa, the left, is another body who supports the overthrow of the principles and rules this country was founded upon.  It's about power.


For those organizing, yes. The fact that do many are willing to follow is reminiscent of pre war Germany I suspect.

I sincerely hope that “all enemies, both foreign and domestic” doesn’t become relative here. I’m older, and this is the first time in my life I could see a potential for WIDESPREAD fighting within our borders.



It's not "potential".  It's a given.  It's been more than confirmed by how the attack on Israel made the varmint come out of their holes everywhere.  Oct 7th will happen here, likely much worse and don't count on this government to go after the perpetrators as the Israeli is doing because the .gov will be the perpetrator.


Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:34:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BM1455:
Willy's interview with  IDF SF guy.

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Not SF, airborne. He hasn't released the SF interview yet.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:34:24 AM EST
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Translation: Al-Qassam Brigades publishes a video targeting the Israeli forces penetrating Gaza with hundreds of mortar shells

Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:38:29 AM EST
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I work with with both Palis and Jews. The Palis I work with are super nice. I get along just fine. I know they keep their opinion to themselves.

But an observation of the hundreds of interviews I have watched,
1) not one condemns hamas.
2) not one believes the right to Israel to exist

Yet, millions of people around the world are marching against Jews some calling for Jew genocide. Somebody is finding here. But back to the 2 comments.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:41:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Translation: Al-Qassam Brigades publishes a video targeting the Israeli forces penetrating Gaza with hundreds of mortar shells

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Slick well-produced propaganda. Obviously filmed previously and/or elsewhere, as the IDF would have struck such a position.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:42:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Piratepast40:

Was it in a low enough orbit that the debris will fall back to earth or be burnt up on re-entry, or will the debris remain in orbit?
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ballistic missiles are suborbital.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:43:00 AM EST
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Not SF, airborne. He hasn't released the SF interview yet.
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Oh.  I thought he had only done the one he talked about yesterday.  Thanx.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:43:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By michigan66:
Israel-Hamas War Day 30 | Abbas to Blinken: PA Willing to Take Control Over Gaza as Part of Diplomatic Solution Nov 5, 2023

Israeli army says 29 soldiers, officers killed in ongoing ground offensive ■ Blinken meets Abbas in Ramallah after saying U.S., Arab states agree Hamas-controlled status quo in Gaza cannot continue ■ One wounded after missile fired from Lebanon hits northern Israel ■ Hamas: Over 60 hostages missing due to Israeli airstrikes on Gaza ■ 242 hostages held in Gaza, 40 remain missing ■ At least 1,300 civilians and soldiers killed in Hamas massacre ■ Hamas' Health Ministry: Over 9,000 killed in Gaza

Abbas after Blinken meeting: Palestinian Authority willing to take responsibility for Gaza as part of comprehensive political solution

Blinken tells Abbas U.S. committed to getting aid into Gaza and restoring essential services there in West Bank visit

Israeli army releases name of additional soldier killed in Gaza fighting

Egyptian sources: Gaza evacuation suspended after Israeli strike on ambulances

Qatar's Foreign Ministry spokesperson says any hostage release requires a 'period of calm'

Palestinian Health Ministry: 3 Palestinians killed in clashes in West Bank village of Abu Dis

Israeli army: We struck more than 2,500 targets since start of Gaza ground operation



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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:44:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By NY12ga:

The mafia does not wantonly target and torture innocent women or children
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Originally Posted By NY12ga:
Originally Posted By Malhass:

Hamas and the plo are war lords and mafia bosses …

The mafia does not wantonly target and torture innocent women or children



That's actually a big no-no taboo.


Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:51:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Translation: Al-Qassam Brigades publishes a video targeting the Israeli forces penetrating Gaza with hundreds of mortar shells

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I love how they make big claims but don't show anything but cringy shit.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:54:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By sh768:


Slick well-produced propaganda. Obviously filmed previously and/or elsewhere, as the IDF would have struck such a position.
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Originally Posted By sh768:
Originally Posted By realwar:
Translation: Al-Qassam Brigades publishes a video targeting the Israeli forces penetrating Gaza with hundreds of mortar shells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BRwv82vkxs


Slick well-produced propaganda. Obviously filmed previously and/or elsewhere, as the IDF would have struck such a position.
Of course it's a Pallywood Production, but following the mentality that Hamas can't do anything to hurt Israel is how the Israelis got into this war in the first place.
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FBHO
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:58:29 AM EST
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Would mad boars do a better job by adding the psychological effect of being killed (and possibly partly eaten) by a pig?


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The Palis freaked out when the Israelis used bomb sniffing pigs at the airport back in the 1990’s.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 11:01:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Translation:The Islamic Resistance in Iraq publishes a video of a suicide march launched towards an American military base west of Hasakah


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Indulge them?
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 11:02:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By USMCTanker:


Professor Michael Clarke is one of my favorite military analysts; an intellectual giant in battlefield and strategic analysis from what I can tell.  

I used to watch him as a guest on Sky News and his observations of the Russian-Ukraine War seemed absolutely spot-on.  He seemed to know more about what the Russians were doing that the Russians did, and I don’t say that in jest.

I would encourage everyone in this thread to take 5 minutes and read his comments.
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Originally Posted By michigan66:
Sunday Times (London): Has Israel set itself an impossible military task? Michael Clarke, visiting professor of defence studies at King’s College London, on the challenges faced by trying to destroy Hamas

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Israel can certainly defeat Hamas, but destroying it will be a different matter, and that challenge is likely to increase as Israel’s campaign goes on.  Israel’s military has its own vulnerabilities, of course, but none that should prevent it from prevailing over Hamas.  

If Hamas decides to go toe-to-toe with the IDF, even in Gaza’s densely urban environment, it will only end one way.

The preliminary bombing of phase one — more than 11,000 targets hit — was followed by the “break-in” phase two. Phase three is designed to capitalise on earlier gains, cutting across the Wadi Gaza coastal wetlands in the centre of the strip to isolate the northern half of the territory.

The IDF, however, are moving carefully to avoid being suckered into Hamas traps, and they are wary in case Hamas intends to fight all-out only inside Gaza City. It will be at least another week before we, and the IDF, can be sure it has not been lured into an urban killing ground.

At the end of this phase of the campaign, however long it may take, it is likely the IDF will occupy all the territory — at least above ground — from the Erez crossing in the north to the Wadi Gaza, including Gaza City.

But occupying half of Hamas’s territory will still leave the job less than half done. From this point onwards, the IDF’s campaign will face challenges that are unique in modern urban warfare and counterinsurgency.

The entire 360 sq km of the Gaza Strip makes it pretty small, and yet 2.3 million people are trapped inside it with no possibility of escape. No examples in modern history — not Mosul, Fallujah, Mariupol in Ukraine, nor Grozny in Chechnya, Kandahar in Afghanistan, Saigon in Vietnam or Phnom Penh in Cambodia — offer cases of a battlefield where civilians had so little chance to get away, if they chose, before the onslaught of a superior military power.

The Palestinians of Gaza have no opportunity to escape.

Israel will have to face its southern battlefield with a population of about 1.8 million in a density approaching 10,000 people per square kilometre. That’s comparable with the population density of central London, in an area about half the size.

To “destroy Hamas” amid a compacted and already severely distressed civilian population will require some unique thinking. In these circumstances most ancient-world leaders would have resorted to a straight massacre.

But modern military commanders will have to develop some new approaches to urban warfare and counterinsurgency if they are to “destroy” Hamas amid this population.

The one respect in which this war is completely traditional is in its tendency to throw up unexpected consequences, setting off trains of political events it will find difficult to control.


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Professor Michael Clarke is one of my favorite military analysts; an intellectual giant in battlefield and strategic analysis from what I can tell.  

I used to watch him as a guest on Sky News and his observations of the Russian-Ukraine War seemed absolutely spot-on.  He seemed to know more about what the Russians were doing that the Russians did, and I don’t say that in jest.

I would encourage everyone in this thread to take 5 minutes and read his comments.



Like I said before, line the civilian population and march it to Iran under very strict real-time broadcasted surveillance.

As an added bonus, build walls, like the French did in Argel, around DC, NYC, Martha's Vineyard, LA, SF, Seattle, etc. and parachute several of them there.


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Oh they will still vote democrat but not for any candidate that could win nationally.

I hope this war weakens the dems hugely.
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Oh, they will still be voting democrat, multiple times over

Just wait until we witness the new and improved democrat voting fraud for 2024


Oh they will still vote democrat but not for any candidate that could win nationally.

I hope this war weakens the dems hugely.



After 2020 and 2022 and how "votes" are "counted", does it really matter how many vote on anyone?


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I work with with both Palis and Jews. The Palis I work with are super nice. I get along just fine. I know they keep their opinion to themselves.

But an observation of the hundreds of interviews I have watched,
1) not one condemns hamas.
2) not one believes the right to Israel to exist

Yet, millions of people around the world are marching against Jews some calling for Jew genocide. Somebody is finding here. But back to the 2 comments.
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It looks like the protests are gaining stem.  More and more are coming out and getting more animated (I.e. White House protest the other day).

I wonder how much it will continue to grow and how many of them or others are actually willing to jump.

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The Palis freaked out when the Israelis used bomb sniffing pigs at the airport back in the 1990’s.
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Would mad boars do a better job by adding the psychological effect of being killed (and possibly partly eaten) by a pig?



The Palis freaked out when the Israelis used bomb sniffing pigs at the airport back in the 1990’s.



Well then.  Now they can use Hamas-sniffing boars.  


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