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Posted: 5/2/2023 9:33:22 PM EDT
PHOENIX - A Waymo electric vehicle caught fire in a Phoenix warehouse on the morning of May 2, prompting a massive hazmat response from firefighters.
The warehouse, located near 3rd Street and Buckeye Road, is where a lot of electric vehicles come to unload their GPS and ride date, according to Phoenix Fire. For some reason, one of the cars caught fire just before 9 a.m. The sprinklers went off, and all of the employees got out of the building safely. The sprinklers were key, according to Phoenix Fire, because they prevented the other cars from catching fire. The hazmat response was massive, with more than 50 firefighters from Phoenix and Tempe responding.  It may take weeks to quench Waymo EV fire, Phoenix Fire officials say "These cells in a 10th of a second can heat up to 1,200 degrees, that's why it makes it so difficult to extinguish these fires," said Phoenix Fire Cpt. Todd Keller. The car now sits in essentially a dumpster, with sand and water on top of it. The car will stay here for weeks as it smolders. Phoenix Fire says it might take three weeks to put the fire out. Phoenix Fire officials say they have only used this strategy of fighting an EV fire a few times. "We may have not fought an EV fire the way we did a year ago, but we're always advancing our technology on how to extinguish these. You have to cool them down," said Cpt. Keller. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/waymo-electric-car-catches-fire-at-phoenix-warehouse |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 9:40:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/2/2023 9:49:23 PM EDT
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Arizona can't do anything in a timely manner
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Posted: 5/2/2023 9:51:28 PM EDT
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Is Waymo like Wham-O ?
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Posted: 5/2/2023 9:52:46 PM EDT
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Now that it’s in the proper garage, dowse it in liquid nitrogen.
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Posted: 5/2/2023 9:55:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arizona can't do anything in a timely manner Sensible chuckle awarded. 
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:22:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arizona can't do anything in a timely manner Ouch.....
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:27:21 PM EDT
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That one won't rise from it's ashes!
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:27:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arizona can't do anything in a timely manner True, so true. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:31:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @beatsofftoevs WOOT WOOT |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:42:57 PM EDT
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At least we saved the environment with EVs.
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:45:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WOOT WOOT Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @beatsofftoevs WOOT WOOT Sweet, this thread is now officially a party. 
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:47:50 PM EDT
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Quoted: The warehouse, located near 3rd Street and Buckeye Road, is where a lot of electric vehicles come to unload their GPS and ride date, according to Phoenix Fire. I'm struggling to understand what this means. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:48:27 PM EDT
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Maybe they should ban EVs from inside buildings or parking within some distance of other cars or buildings.
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:50:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now that it’s in the proper garage, dowse it in liquid nitrogen. No! If it's going to burn forever, might as well capture that heat and use it for energy. Perpetual energy! |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:50:43 PM EDT
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Does that contribute to global warming when it burns for three weeks?
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:53:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm struggling to understand what this means. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The warehouse, located near 3rd Street and Buckeye Road, is where a lot of electric vehicles come to unload their GPS and ride date, according to Phoenix Fire. I'm struggling to understand what this means. Test vehicle facility maybe? |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:58:37 PM EDT
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I've seen those things all over the SF bay area. They are creepy with their little spinning LIDAR cone on top
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Posted: 5/2/2023 10:59:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Test vehicle facility maybe? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The warehouse, located near 3rd Street and Buckeye Road, is where a lot of electric vehicles come to unload their GPS and ride date, according to Phoenix Fire. I'm struggling to understand what this means. Test vehicle facility maybe? Probably this. Waymo is self driving trucks, we see them on 45 north of Houston all the time. It is usually pretty obvious the "driver" is really a passenger and not driving. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 11:01:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that contribute to global warming when it burns for three weeks? Also, the slab where it sits is gonna need removing, along with any walls nearby. Concrete don't like intense heat like that. EVs for the winning. Imagine that in a residential garage. Yikes. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 11:03:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/2/2023 11:08:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: PHOENIX - A Waymo electric vehicle caught fire in a Phoenix warehouse on the morning of May 2, prompting a massive hazmat response from firefighters. The warehouse, located near 3rd Street and Buckeye Road, is where a lot of electric vehicles come to unload their GPS and ride date, according to Phoenix Fire. For some reason, one of the cars caught fire just before 9 a.m. The sprinklers went off, and all of the employees got out of the building safely. The sprinklers were key, according to Phoenix Fire, because they prevented the other cars from catching fire. The hazmat response was massive, with more than 50 firefighters from Phoenix and Tempe responding.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTTics5aomo"These cells in a 10th of a second can heat up to 1,200 degrees, that's why it makes it so difficult to extinguish these fires," said Phoenix Fire Cpt. Todd Keller. The car now sits in essentially a dumpster, with sand and water on top of it. The car will stay here for weeks as it smolders. Phoenix Fire says it might take three weeks to put the fire out. Phoenix Fire officials say they have only used this strategy of fighting an EV fire a few times. "We may have not fought an EV fire the way we did a year ago, but we're always advancing our technology on how to extinguish these. You have to cool them down," said Cpt. Keller. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/waymo-electric-car-catches-fire-at-phoenix-warehouse Makes me wonder if EVs catch fire more often then regular cars? Genuine question I have no statistics on either. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 11:09:58 PM EDT
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Going to be hard to put something out that is water reactive. Even harder when the oxidizer and reducing agent are mm apart.
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Posted: 5/2/2023 11:14:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Makes me wonder if EVs catch fire more often then regular cars? Genuine question I have no statistics on either. I wonder that too. ICE cars need a fuel leak AND an ignition source. EVs ARE the fuel AND the ignition source. I have put out a few ICE engine compartment fires with a standard ABC fire extinguisher. With an EV fire, I am grabbing the insurance envelope out of the console and running as fast as I can. No point in even carrying an extinguisher. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 11:17:42 PM EDT
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EVs will save our planet
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Posted: 5/2/2023 11:24:33 PM EDT
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What a dumpster fire.
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Posted: 5/2/2023 11:29:26 PM EDT
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Need to get a standardized way of allowing pressurized water to circulate amongst the 18650's, rather than dowsing the EV and having it shed the water off the sealed battery pack as if it's rain. Maybe a spring assembly held in place with a low temp melt cord threaded through the battery pack that when melts springs the rear license tag off and exposes a 4in hole that leads into the core of the battery pack.
Then use a probe that mates into the hole, or just direct hose pressure water towards the hole. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 11:31:59 PM EDT
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https://www.thedrive.com/news/you-stay-watch-a-cop-yell-at-a-waymo-self-driving-taxi-like-a-dog
According to Mission Local, the footage was from a Feb. 9 incident near San Francisco's Sunset District where crews responded to a fire. Once on scene, firefighters charged their hoses when the Waymo vehicle arrived. The fire crews wanted to keep the vehicle from running over their hoses, so police intervened with a road flare and very specific commands before eventually disabling the car and sending it away. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 11:52:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably this. Waymo is self driving trucks, we see them on 45 north of Houston all the time. It is usually pretty obvious the "driver" is really a passenger and not driving. It's googles autonomous driving program. |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 12:23:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Need to get a standardized way of allowing pressurized water to circulate amongst the 18650's, rather than dowsing the EV and having it shed the water off the sealed battery pack as if it's rain. Maybe a spring assembly held in place with a low temp melt cord threaded through the battery pack that when melts springs the rear license tag off and exposes a 4in hole that leads into the core of the battery pack. Then use a probe that mates into the hole, or just direct hose pressure water towards the hole. I think that 4-in hole would turn into a flamethrower  |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 12:33:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Need to get a standardized way of allowing pressurized water to circulate amongst the 18650's, rather than dowsing the EV and having it shed the water off the sealed battery pack as if it's rain. Maybe a spring assembly held in place with a low temp melt cord threaded through the battery pack that when melts springs the rear license tag off and exposes a 4in hole that leads into the core of the battery pack. Then use a probe that mates into the hole, or just direct hose pressure water towards the hole. That's an interesting idea, like a standpipe port on a car.  |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 12:40:33 AM EDT
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It can't be that hard to design a heat activated switch that flows the battery with coolant when it over heats.
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Posted: 5/4/2023 12:42:14 AM EDT
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And people are buying those tesla powerwall things with a stack of lithium-ion batteries to put in their house.
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Posted: 5/4/2023 12:45:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Test vehicle facility maybe? |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 12:47:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe they should ban EVs from inside buildings or parking within some distance of other cars or buildings. How'd ya like to be 35 miles off shore, and have 600 pounds of LITHIUM burning a hole through the bottom of your boat ? |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 1:08:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, the slab where it sits is gonna need removing, along with any walls nearby. Concrete don't like intense heat like that. EVs for the winning. Imagine that in a residential garage. Yikes. Imagine a multi-car pileup of all EVs. That will be one hell of a bonfire if one in the pileup catches on fire. Fire depts should stock hot dogs, marshmallows, and popcorn and make a party out of it. |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 1:14:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arizona can't do anything in a timely manner No need to hide. We have a commiecrat Governor. Hobbs is a real piece of shit. |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 1:14:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm struggling to understand what this means. They drive around the city covered in cameras and sensors, collecting data for an autonomous driving system. |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 2:09:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: PHOENIX - A Waymo electric vehicle caught fire in a Phoenix warehouse on the morning of May 2, prompting a massive hazmat response from firefighters. The warehouse, located near 3rd Street and Buckeye Road, is where a lot of electric vehicles come to unload their GPS and ride date, according to Phoenix Fire. For some reason, one of the cars caught fire just before 9 a.m. The sprinklers went off, and all of the employees got out of the building safely. The sprinklers were key, according to Phoenix Fire, because they prevented the other cars from catching fire. The hazmat response was massive, with more than 50 firefighters from Phoenix and Tempe responding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTTics5aomo"These cells in a 10th of a second can heat up to 1,200 degrees, that's why it makes it so difficult to extinguish these fires," said Phoenix Fire Cpt. Todd Keller. The car now sits in essentially a dumpster, with sand and water on top of it. The car will stay here for weeks as it smolders. Phoenix Fire says it might take three weeks to put the fire out. Phoenix Fire officials say they have only used this strategy of fighting an EV fire a few times. "We may have not fought an EV fire the way we did a year ago, but we're always advancing our technology on how to extinguish these. You have to cool them down," said Cpt. Keller. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/waymo-electric-car-catches-fire-at-phoenix-warehouse SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT! By mining it to literal shreds, destroying the water tables with lithium brining ops, and releasing who knows what in the way of chemicals in EV fires, which you can't even really put out, only contain (if you are lucky). |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 2:17:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It can't be that hard to design a heat activated switch that flows the battery with coolant when it over heats. Uh ... they have that. https://www.evspeedy.com/tesla-batteries-cooling-heating/ The cooling system for Tesla batteries consists of a pump, a heat exchanger, and an expansion tank. The pump circulates the coolant through the battery cells to remove heat from the cells. This cooling process takes place inside the Tesla battery pack, where glycol circulates through pipes and absorbs the waste heat generated by the cells during charging. The glycol then flows through an external radiator, releasing its heat into the ambient air. But that's not going to do diddely-squat when the car gets into an accident and cells in the battery pack are penetrated, and short out, and a few catastrophically dump their energy (that's what a short does) into the surrounding cells. Which are likely to also be compromised by that energy dumped through them. Causing them to possibly either catch on fire or ... dump their energy too. This is what happens when you're stupid enough to store your energy "complete" all in one container. Gasoline cars do not do this. You have to add an oxidizer (oxygen) to it for it to release energy (plus an ignition source -as if it requires saying). Plus when the gasoline and oxygen mixture is not compressed, it is less destructive. This is also why rockets carrying liquid propellant and oxidizer make for such spectacular explosions (liquid fuel + oxidizer stored in one structure). EVs are a retarded idea. |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 2:18:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, the slab where it sits is gonna need removing, along with any walls nearby. Concrete don't like intense heat like that. EVs for the winning. Imagine that in a residential garage. Yikes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does that contribute to global warming when it burns for three weeks? Also, the slab where it sits is gonna need removing, along with any walls nearby. Concrete don't like intense heat like that. EVs for the winning. Imagine that in a residential garage. Yikes. Chevy told bolt owners to park their cars outside due to a recall for exactly this reason. |
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