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2/11/2025 9:51:28 PM EDT
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It seems Jesse Michaels has been on an interview scoring streak for a while now, and seems to be partnered up with Yes Theory to further polish his long form show.

He is releasing content regularly enough that perhaps a master thread to discuss his episodes might be handy.

The latest with Whitley Strieber is interesting and expansive;

"Aliens Live Among Us...I've Met Them!" -Whitley Strieber Tells All


Their discussion on Von Neumann’s ideas on our reality and we are letting the visitors in by thinking them into our reality was thought provoking,  and our zeitgeist will control what we let in.

They talk about how instrumental Sarbacher was and his thoughts.

Just a lot to unpack. Fringes of the fringe brought to light in a way.
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
2/12/2025 3:09:43 AM EDT
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I tagged the thread to not archive if you want to dump all of the relevant videos in this thread.  Could make one for Joe Rogan and the e others as well if you think that arrangement would work out better than discussions regarding each episode from each influencer.

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
2/12/2025 8:07:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sq40:
It seems Jesse Michaels has been on an interview scoring streak for a while now, and seems to be partnered up with Yes Theory to further polish his long form show.

He is releasing content regularly enough that perhaps a master thread to discuss his episodes might be handy.

The latest with Whitley Strieber is interesting and expansive;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABOP8ZJsyIk

Their discussion on Von Neumann’s ideas on our reality and we are letting the visitors in by thinking them into our reality was thought provoking,  and our zeitgeist will control what we let in.

They talk about how instrumental Sarbacher was and his thoughts.

Just a lot to unpack. Fringes of the fringe brought to light in a way.
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VERY intriguing, and thanks for the synopsis - I’m definitely going to add this to the queue.
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2/12/2025 9:58:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By brass:
I tagged the thread to not archive if you want to dump all of the relevant videos in this thread.  Could make one for Joe Rogan and the e others as well if you think that arrangement would work out better than discussions regarding each episode from each influencer.

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Thats a good question.

The Why Files thread has been helpful because it is a show with a broad range of topics.

In the UAP disclosure process many of these speakers perform a circuit of press.

It does seem that two or more long format hosts have especially relevant guests, like Michaels and Rogan. It may be good to have threads for each so we can discuss long form interviews that a lot of people miss in whole or part, where we can summarize and give thoughts on the content through our natural discourse.

One thing that also differentiates Michaels is his tie with Yes Theory. That is a decade long project where groups of people travel the Earth to show that people are people, and we have kindness in all of us.  Its a remarkable series.  Here are three examples, and if they are tied to disclosure, perhaps its a very positive turn.

Yes Theory Videos:
https://youtu.be/RwOltQUMDa4?si=QO2fTYmO-jzhEJjV

https://youtu.be/TWRlPKMAkRk?si=JKnsP1K0jUxoN9fI

https://youtu.be/GTIjylkB-TI?si=C-IP4AdbKpLuzrBY
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
2/12/2025 10:00:53 AM EDT
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Here is another good one.

The Biblical Truth of UFOs & Angels (Ft. Karl Nell & Diana Pasulka)
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
2/12/2025 11:45:13 PM EDT
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Weinstein and Puthoff;

Eric Weinstein Debates CIA UFO Expert Hal Puthoff

This one is three years old.
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
2/13/2025 11:38:56 AM EDT
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Read somewhere he is being funded by Peter thiel now
So maybe that’s what his output has increased.  
Not saying good or bad, but is that why he is now doing weekly shows and not every month or so?
2/14/2025 3:49:41 PM EDT
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"I Retrieved a UFO With My Helicopter!" -Jake Barber Tells All


CIA Contractor: "Obama Received An Alien Prophecy"
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
2/14/2025 5:53:32 PM EDT
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Read somewhere he is being funded by Peter thiel now
So maybe that's what his output has increased.  
Not saying good or bad, but is that why he is now doing weekly shows and not every month or so?
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Thiel is a major pro-disclosure guy and he's on team Trump.  Both Vivek and J.D. Vance are former employees of Thiel and still closely connected.

He's in the top 5 most powerful people in the country and he's Conservative.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
2/15/2025 4:50:22 PM EDT
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Thiel is a major pro-disclosure guy and he's on team Trump.  Both Vivek and J.D. Vance are former employees of Thiel and still closely connected.

He's in the top 5 most powerful people in the country and he's Conservative.
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Originally Posted By JQ66:
Read somewhere he is being funded by Peter thiel now
So maybe that's what his output has increased.  
Not saying good or bad, but is that why he is now doing weekly shows and not every month or so?

Thiel is a major pro-disclosure guy and he's on team Trump.  Both Vivek and J.D. Vance are former employees of Thiel and still closely connected.

He's in the top 5 most powerful people in the country and he's Conservative.


That perfectly dovetails into the big jump in production quality, guests, and resources.
Could this be THE major channel for disclosure going forward?
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
2/15/2025 5:06:36 PM EDT
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“Aliens Taught Me Advanced Physics!” (Ft. Dave Rossi)


This is highly interesting.  It is a case of “gifted knowledge” during an abduction encounter.

It exposes the red herring in mathematics and physics public academia has been lead down since the 50s, that Weinstein keeps talking about. Scalar waves and extended electrodynamics.
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
2/22/2025 10:11:56 AM EDT
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New episode. I just started it, so i cant give a summary yet.

UAPGerb: “The New Area51 Is HERE in Utah!”
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
2/22/2025 7:49:41 PM EDT
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Watched the episode.

Its just two really knowledgeable guys connecting a whole lot of dots of who is who and what roles they probably payed in the coverup. Nothing new at all. Just really hours of names of credible people who were and are part of all of this.
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
2/23/2025 1:56:56 PM EDT
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UAPGerb???  Most knowledgeable UFO researcher in the world???  This is the first time I've heard of the guy.  Looks like his youtube channel has videos going back about a year?

Watched it once, will watch again.  Seems like a sharp young guy, which is needed in the field, but who is he and where the hell did he come from?
2/24/2025 8:10:58 AM EDT
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UAPGerb???  Most knowledgeable UFO researcher in the world???  This is the first time I've heard of the guy.  Looks like his youtube channel has videos going back about a year?

Watched it once, will watch again.  Seems like a sharp young guy, which is needed in the field, but who is he and where the hell did he come from?
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I had the same thoughts.  Never heard of the guy.  He has an encyclopedic knowledge of UFO stuff, but calling him the most knowledgeable is click bait.
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
2/24/2025 11:35:56 AM EDT
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I don't like that they think ANYONE is beyond reproach in the field.  And I think if service members are using their service to establish their credibility, then that service absolutely needs to be closely scrutinized.  I don't believe the Herrara guy at all.  I think Grusch may have been manipulated and I doubt Barber.  When these guys flaunt their military records but don't want anyone questioning inconsistencies it gets a real "Thank me for my service" vibe.  Elizondo even suggested in an interview once that anyone questioning or doubting him was basically being like a racist.  I wish I had saved that interview because now I can't find it.

They kind of opened with all that and it put me off a little but I watched it.  The guy is very knowledgeable but he and some of his stuff seems to kind of come out of nowhere.  He does seem very serious and doesn't have the "recently converted" over enthusiasm that some of the new folks in the field have.  I listened to a couple of his own videos as I was falling asleep last night. Well produced and very interesting stuff and glad to have found someone new to listen to.  

I'm old enough to start to see a pattern with a lot of these researchers.  When they are young, maybe it's naiveté, maybe it's over enthusiasm, but they want to believe everything and everyone.  Then they get a little older and maybe they get burned by sources a few times and they are more cautious with their beliefs.  Then they start getting really old, and I think they start to see the end of the road and they so badly WANT to believe.  Linda Moulton Howe and George Knapp come to mind.  I always really liked Knapp because I thought he took a very careful, balanced approach even with Lazar.  Lately it feels like he and Howe just want to see disclosure so bad they are letting their journalistic guard down.

I'm glad to see Jesse Michaels taking off.  He's young, intelligent, serious and devoted to the subject and he's doing a great job providing a platform for people to voice their stories, just like Art Bell did.  I'm looking forward to watching more of the Gerb guy's videos, but I'd sure like to know a little more about his background.
2/24/2025 9:47:27 PM EDT
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I had the same thoughts.  Never heard of the guy.  He has an encyclopedic knowledge of UFO stuff, but calling him the most knowledgeable is click bait.
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Originally Posted By Bushleaguepilot:
UAPGerb???  Most knowledgeable UFO researcher in the world???  This is the first time I've heard of the guy.  Looks like his youtube channel has videos going back about a year?

Watched it once, will watch again.  Seems like a sharp young guy, which is needed in the field, but who is he and where the hell did he come from?


I had the same thoughts.  Never heard of the guy.  He has an encyclopedic knowledge of UFO stuff, but calling him the most knowledgeable is click bait.



Youtube algorithms failed or purposely kept this guy low key?
Never heard of him until now either
2/25/2025 12:08:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bushleaguepilot:
I don't like that they think ANYONE is beyond reproach in the field.  And I think if service members are using their service to establish their credibility, then that service absolutely needs to be closely scrutinized.  I don't believe the Herrara guy at all.  I think Grusch may have been manipulated and I doubt Barber.  When these guys flaunt their military records but don't want anyone questioning inconsistencies it gets a real "Thank me for my service" vibe.  Elizondo even suggested in an interview once that anyone questioning or doubting him was basically being like a racist.  I wish I had saved that interview because now I can't find it.

They kind of opened with all that and it put me off a little but I watched it.  The guy is very knowledgeable but he and some of his stuff seems to kind of come out of nowhere.  He does seem very serious and doesn't have the "recently converted" over enthusiasm that some of the new folks in the field have.  I listened to a couple of his own videos as I was falling asleep last night. Well produced and very interesting stuff and glad to have found someone new to listen to.  

I'm old enough to start to see a pattern with a lot of these researchers.  When they are young, maybe it's naiveté, maybe it's over enthusiasm, but they want to believe everything and everyone.  Then they get a little older and maybe they get burned by sources a few times and they are more cautious with their beliefs.  Then they start getting really old, and I think they start to see the end of the road and they so badly WANT to believe.  Linda Moulton Howe and George Knapp come to mind.  I always really liked Knapp because I thought he took a very careful, balanced approach even with Lazar.  Lately it feels like he and Howe just want to see disclosure so bad they are letting their journalistic guard down.

I'm glad to see Jesse Michaels taking off.  He's young, intelligent, serious and devoted to the subject and he's doing a great job providing a platform for people to voice their stories, just like Art Bell did.  I'm looking forward to watching more of the Gerb guy's videos, but I'd sure like to know a little more about his background.
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I have no idea of exactly what you mean concerning Knapp. He thinks everything is a possible trap.

I think he's seen enough through the years to know there's something there to believe in even if individuals that inject themselves into the subject are plants or crazy.

He remains highly skeptical of any one piece of evidence or witness unless it/they are something he's been familiar with for years already before it/they became public.
3/1/2025 5:46:13 PM EDT
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Probably the best talk on remote viewing I've ever heard. Joseph McMonegle.
The Mars stuff is a minor part of this.  Joe is a an amazing man. A combat vet. Some interesting Vietnam stories.

“Mars Had Alien Life!” (Ft. Joe McMoneagle)
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
3/2/2025 5:06:47 PM EDT
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I have no idea of exactly what you mean concerning Knapp. He thinks everything is a possible trap.

I think he's seen enough through the years to know there's something there to believe in even if individuals that inject themselves into the subject are plants or crazy.

He remains highly skeptical of any one piece of evidence or witness unless it/they are something he's been familiar with for years already before it/they became public.
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Originally Posted By Bushleaguepilot:
I don't like that they think ANYONE is beyond reproach in the field.  And I think if service members are using their service to establish their credibility, then that service absolutely needs to be closely scrutinized.  I don't believe the Herrara guy at all.  I think Grusch may have been manipulated and I doubt Barber.  When these guys flaunt their military records but don't want anyone questioning inconsistencies it gets a real "Thank me for my service" vibe.  Elizondo even suggested in an interview once that anyone questioning or doubting him was basically being like a racist.  I wish I had saved that interview because now I can't find it.

They kind of opened with all that and it put me off a little but I watched it.  The guy is very knowledgeable but he and some of his stuff seems to kind of come out of nowhere.  He does seem very serious and doesn't have the "recently converted" over enthusiasm that some of the new folks in the field have.  I listened to a couple of his own videos as I was falling asleep last night. Well produced and very interesting stuff and glad to have found someone new to listen to.  

I'm old enough to start to see a pattern with a lot of these researchers.  When they are young, maybe it's naiveté, maybe it's over enthusiasm, but they want to believe everything and everyone.  Then they get a little older and maybe they get burned by sources a few times and they are more cautious with their beliefs.  Then they start getting really old, and I think they start to see the end of the road and they so badly WANT to believe.  Linda Moulton Howe and George Knapp come to mind.  I always really liked Knapp because I thought he took a very careful, balanced approach even with Lazar.  Lately it feels like he and Howe just want to see disclosure so bad they are letting their journalistic guard down.

I'm glad to see Jesse Michaels taking off.  He's young, intelligent, serious and devoted to the subject and he's doing a great job providing a platform for people to voice their stories, just like Art Bell did.  I'm looking forward to watching more of the Gerb guy's videos, but I'd sure like to know a little more about his background.


I have no idea of exactly what you mean concerning Knapp. He thinks everything is a possible trap.

I think he's seen enough through the years to know there's something there to believe in even if individuals that inject themselves into the subject are plants or crazy.

He remains highly skeptical of any one piece of evidence or witness unless it/they are something he's been familiar with for years already before it/they became public.


This isn't directed at you, but adding to what you said...  If you refuse to gather and learn new information because it might be disinfo or a hoax, you'll never learn anything in your life.    Learning to collect all of it and note similarities/differences from other reports is what makes the common tropes/themes stand out more, especially when looked at from different angles, such as eyewitness then geological, archeological and folklore descriptions all coming together pointing at something as "This is not normal".   From how the pyramids were built to how old mankind is to how gravity works, there are a ton of things we just have no clue about, so insisting it doesn't fit with current science means it doesn't exist for some.  I wonder if they argue with gravity since it doesn't have a scientific method of existing.

Things may not be normal but that doesn't mean you know what the answer is, but it makes a huge cloud of information/cover ups stand out like a sore thumb when compared to the rest of the package.   Sort of like how the agitprop people are easily identified in GD after only 1 or 2 posts.  There's a "flow" to how GD runs and some of them stand out severely from concern trolls to intentionally ignorant trying to derail the thread (like a neon sign, hence the term "glowie" from anon forums where they are rampant).   When they come to this forum they don't get much in unless they want to have an adult honest discussion and not just crap on threads and beg empty questions or demand proof which can't be seen over the internet and they wouldn't believe it anyway, you know the type.

So, I guess what I'm trying to say is to take new people and information with a grain of salt, but do hear them out.  You might get a lead on something that hasn't been mentioned for 40 years or learn about the next method of distortion being added.  No matter what, you learn something, though it may not be the something you were hoping to learn.

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
3/7/2025 10:10:02 AM EDT
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Probably the best talk on remote viewing I've ever heard. Joseph McMonegle.
The Mars stuff is a minor part of this.  Joe is a an amazing man. A combat vet. Some interesting Vietnam stories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpLThEF2dTM
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Holy shit, that's why the MX program was cancelled!
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
3/10/2025 3:49:44 PM EDT
[#21]
This one has been awesome

Meet The DARPA Scientist Abducted By an Alien
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
4/10/2025 4:20:35 PM EDT
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Greer Episode live

“UFO Secrets Are Held By A Global Cabal” (Ft. Steven Greer)
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
4/22/2025 9:40:23 PM EDT
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Presidential Advisor: “I Directly Handled UFO Material” (Ft. Harald Malmgren)
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
4/23/2025 8:40:14 AM EDT
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This should be huge.


4/23/2025 9:41:08 AM EDT
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This one has been awesome

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I just can't do anything with Greer. I think it was on SRS he said someone powerful offered him $1B to stop talking about all this and he refused. That's not how the world works, they'd pay a small fraction of that to have you die in an accident if they were that threatened by what you were doing
4/23/2025 10:54:15 AM EDT
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Just fired up as I work on quotes.

I also just said "holy shit" at 5:33, never really outburst at this stuff. weird.

Ready to see where this goes.

@jafrush

ETA: WOW this is good.
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
4/24/2025 10:17:03 AM EDT
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Malmgren helped connect A LOT of old dots.  He's yet another high level individual with impeccable credentials using the same names, locations, and organizations involved in the UAP topic.


Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
4/25/2025 12:51:11 PM EDT
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Yes, it was an amazing interview.  More toothpaste out of the tube.  We are reaching a critical point where deniers will be sidelined.  I am not under any illusion that all will be known and acknowledged but certainly the question whether we are alone will be settled.  That will be a huge paradigm shift.
4/25/2025 1:31:50 PM EDT
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Yes, it was an amazing interview.  More toothpaste out of the tube.  We are reaching a critical point where deniers will be sidelined.  I am not under any illusion that all will be known and acknowledged but certainly the question whether we are alone will be settled.  That will be a huge paradigm shift.
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Thousands of mocking deniers daily on ArfCom alone.
Mesmerizing.

Can't wait for the evidence to be public to shove them
4/25/2025 2:21:13 PM EDT
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Thousands of mocking deniers daily on ArfCom alone.
Mesmerizing.

Can't wait for the evidence to be public to shove them
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Originally Posted By DeepSky:
Yes, it was an amazing interview.  More toothpaste out of the tube.  We are reaching a critical point where deniers will be sidelined.  I am not under any illusion that all will be known and acknowledged but certainly the question whether we are alone will be settled.  That will be a huge paradigm shift.
Thousands of mocking deniers daily on ArfCom alone.
Mesmerizing.

Can't wait for the evidence to be public to shove them

They'll just stick to the old "it's disinformation" nonsense even though that doesn't hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny.  A shitload of people aren't going to accept it without a UFO landing on their face.

The UAP topic is one where you can only deny it if you're massively uninformed or willingly in denial.  Most people don't want their worldview altered even a little bit.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
4/25/2025 4:46:21 PM EDT
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It's hopeless for some people but that is the way it has always been.  Flat earth, Holocaust on an on......  
5/1/2025 11:05:22 PM EDT
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I wanted to give this one a week or so for everyone to watch before saying anything.

This is probably the most important interview yet.  Malmgren is a lynchpin figure in American leadership and history, and is the highest ranking person to come forward.  Even at 89yo, and despite his voice failing him, he was as sharp as it gets. His passing was incredibly sudden and in the middle of him disclosing so much.

He puts many of the pieces together.  He validates milestone accounts from numerous people, and paints a picture of the people and timeline of secrecy and events.  These parts are critical for painting a detailed narrative. I just cant describe how breathtaking this interview is for serious students of the phenomenon like me, like us.

I keep circling back to Philip J Corso, and the gut feeling I had that much of his book was true, with some parts bolted on by handlers to make it acceptable to be published and ridiculed. It seems this is the case and The Day After Roswell is solid, yet tampered with, work.

Elizondo, Grusch, Pasulka, all validated yet again. Malmgren solidifies the story going back to Italy in the 30s and the Vatican connection, as well as US retrieval operations.

What stands out is how cool and rationally he lays out the details of who, what, when, and where.  He doesn't make you have to read between the lines.

Michaels drops the next clue in all of this, the Fictional book, The Cryptos Conundrum by Chase Brandon. It seems to be based on Malmgren.  So that will be something to digest.

The fact that the books The Three Body Problem is also talked about as potential disclosure is quite disturbing. Not knowing in what way is a concern. I hope someone can clear that up. Because if that’s the model, the Dark Forrest Theory, then we will all be somber.
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
5/3/2025 12:06:33 AM EDT
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I'm reading the Three Body Problem now. Elizondo hinted a few times that the future is somber and something is coming. My instincts tell me that he doesn't know what it is, but has some clues from those that think they know.

If what is "coming" is the least bit factual, my gut tells me it isn't aliens or interdimensional beings looking to colonize or wipe us out. More likely, the hint is that Earth, like the planet in the novel is beset by random and unavoidable cataclysms.

Meteor strike, Super volcano eruption, Pole Shift, Disease. Take your pick of what comes next.  

If there are parallels to the TBP book, I think it is most likely that we are hurtling towards the next extinction level event and completely blind to it.  Our next "Chaotic Time" is drawing near and has likely happened many times before on Earth.

Our visitors know it and are collecting specimens and DNA to catalogue before the event.

Only question is will Elon make us multi-planetary before the event?  He needs at least another 20 years to have Mars self sustaining.
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5/3/2025 8:04:34 AM EDT
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I'm reading the Three Body Problem now. Elizondo hinted a few times that the future is somber and something is coming. My instincts tell me that he doesn't know what it is, but has some clues from those that think they know.

If what is "coming" is the least bit factual, my gut tells me it isn't aliens or interdimensional beings looking to colonize or wipe us out. More likely, the hint is that Earth, like the planet in the novel is beset by random and unavoidable cataclysms.

Meteor strike, Super volcano eruption, Pole Shift, Disease. Take your pick of what comes next.  

If there are parallels to the TBP book, I think it is most likely that we are hurtling towards the next extinction level event and completely blind to it.  Our next "Chaotic Time" is drawing near and has likely happened many times before on Earth.

Our visitors know it and are collecting specimens and DNA to catalogue before the event.

Only question is will Elon make us multi-planetary before the event?  He needs at least another 20 years to have Mars self sustaining.
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That’s an interesting takeaway from the book.  It’s plausible.
That was the plot of the underrated movie Knowing.  And of course similar to the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. And of course 2012 and other cataclysm films.

Human psychology tends to favor projection. It’s why the hero’s journey is by far the top literary and entertainment mechanism, especially when mixed with romance.  The invasion and colonization narrative are very human fears and are deep seated.  But so is cataclysm. Virtually every major religion, modern and from antiquity, as a cataclysm story with survivors. So subconsciously most everyone has a story of survival at their core, with ego, the idea that they would be a survivor, and perhaps the hero.

I say all of that to say, perhaps we have a framing issue as human beings.  The truth could be hinted in fiction, but perhaps not the parts we intuitively see.
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
6/3/2025 1:55:11 PM EDT
[#35]
Michaels is on Rogan today I believe
6/4/2025 3:40:51 PM EDT
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It's fucking awesome.

Joe Rogan Experience #2331 - Jesse Michels
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I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
6/4/2025 5:24:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


It's fucking awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Ldl70x5Fg
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That's one I'll have to listen to a few times. Jesse retains so many names and dates. It's like drinking out of a firehose
6/4/2025 6:44:53 PM EDT
[#38]
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It's fucking awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Ldl70x5Fg
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Eager to watch this one when I can really focus on it, curious how it compares to to the AJ interview.
6/4/2025 11:33:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BlackHoleSon:

That's one I'll have to listen to a few times. Jesse retains so many names and dates. It's like drinking out of a firehose
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Originally Posted By BlackHoleSon:

That's one I'll have to listen to a few times. Jesse retains so many names and dates. It's like drinking out of a firehose


Not just names and dates.

Their theories and how they studied whatever.

Dude can converse on another level.

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Eager to watch this one when I can really focus on it, curious how it compares to to the AJ interview.



AJ was solid, but I’d give the edge to JM.


His channel is about to POP.
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
6/5/2025 7:18:29 AM EDT
[#40]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


It's fucking awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Ldl70x5Fg
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I started listening to this and this dude is bright as hell.   Its amazing how well he recalls names, dates etc

6/5/2025 7:22:20 AM EDT
[#41]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


Not just names and dates.

Their theories and how they studied whatever.

Dude can converse on another level.




AJ was solid, but I’d give the edge to JM.


His channel is about to POP.
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I am impressed with JM as well.  Might be the right guy to mainstream. He is a great speaker too.
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6/5/2025 7:22:30 AM EDT
[#42]
Michels’ recall is next level, and it includes a wide group of subjects. Consciousness, UFOs etc.

I started listening to the American Alchemy pod after Grusch’s testimony a few years ago.

I keep getting Michels and Julian Dorey mixed up and I need to fix that.
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6/6/2025 7:58:54 PM EDT
[#43]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


It's fucking awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Ldl70x5Fg
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Originally Posted By BlackHoleSon:
Michaels is on Rogan today I believe


It's fucking awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Ldl70x5Fg
Been listening to this one for a couple days while driving.  Good interaction.
6/18/2025 9:47:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Michels’ recall is next level, and it includes a wide group of subjects. Consciousness, UFOs etc.

I started listening to the American Alchemy pod after Grusch’s testimony a few years ago.

I keep getting Michels and Julian Dorey mixed up and I need to fix that.
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Dorey / JM / Chris Ramsay drops get flagged and watched ASAP (while I send mindless sales emails out).

Dorey is like the "everyman" Jesse.
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
6/21/2025 8:09:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


It's fucking awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Ldl70x5Fg
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Originally Posted By BlackHoleSon:
Michaels is on Rogan today I believe


It's fucking awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Ldl70x5Fg


Between Townsend Whelen and Townsend Brown, if I had another son, I have a name for him now.

This is such a great interview.

It sounds like both Brown effects are at play with UAP, both electrogravidcic,  but also electro hydrodynamics. The electrogravidcic may provide lift, but the electro hydrodynamics cause cavation to allow it to move through mediums unimpeded. We have speculated a “warp bubble” is used, bit what if it’s more simple?
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.
6/21/2025 5:18:30 PM EDT
[#46]
"I Located A UFO Base In Arizona!" (Ft. Ross Coulthart)
6/23/2025 12:05:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:
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wrapping up now.

good discussion.
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
6/25/2025 8:32:34 PM EDT
[#48]
One of the pros of my job is I get to listen to a lot of podcasts. I’ve digested about 75-80% of the Jesse Michels podcasts since his Rogan interview. He’s a much better interviewer than the other hosts I’ve listened to a lot the same guests with. I really appreciate his data/science based approach. I don’t really get into woo woo stuff, entertaining as that can be. I say that to say, my perspective has shifted pretty significantly after digesting most of his podcast content. He’s probably the best host I’ve found for an open skeptic like myself. Just ordered the Three Body Problem.

6/26/2025 6:26:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bkpkr:
One of the pros of my job is I get to listen to a lot of podcasts. I’ve digested about 75-80% of the Jesse Michels podcasts since his Rogan interview. He’s a much better interviewer than the other hosts I’ve listened to a lot the same guests with. I really appreciate his data/science based approach. I don’t really get into woo woo stuff, entertaining as that can be. I say that to say, my perspective has shifted pretty significantly after digesting most of his podcast content. He’s probably the best host I’ve found for an open skeptic like myself. Just ordered the Three Body Problem.

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I like listening to him as well and thankfully I too get to listen to quite a bit on the road or at my desk

I still need to finish the three body problem, I’ve started the second book twice now and always end up dropping it, no idea why as its interesting.
6/26/2025 7:48:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bkpkr:
One of the pros of my job is I get to listen to a lot of podcasts. I’ve digested about 75-80% of the Jesse Michels podcasts since his Rogan interview. He’s a much better interviewer than the other hosts I’ve listened to a lot the same guests with. I really appreciate his data/science based approach. I don’t really get into woo woo stuff, entertaining as that can be. I say that to say, my perspective has shifted pretty significantly after digesting most of his podcast content. He’s probably the best host I’ve found for an open skeptic like myself. Just ordered the Three Body Problem.

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Excellent.

Make sure you watch / listen to this one if not already - it's probably the most important one, IMO.

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