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Link Posted: 11/3/2019 7:57:09 PM EST
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They should offer the dude a franchise, not bust his balls.  Seems like bad business to me.
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Yep.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 7:57:51 PM EST
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Sounds like the “delivery fee” just went up.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 7:58:50 PM EST
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Hey, he didn't get strangled and killed for selling  " loosie donuts ".
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:05:45 PM EST
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Sounds like the don't like money.
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They don't. KK is either horribly managed or something else is going on. They had a store in MN a while back that was packed all the time. They shut it down anyway.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:08:20 PM EST
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So they should risk legal exposure for some person they don't know and haven't vetted.

Maybe he is a sicko, maybe his car is a mess and full of infectious diseases , maybe he has a vendetta against KK and is just waiting to poison a shit load of donuts, etc.
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So each restaurant personally vets each grubhub driver?

But again....I buy doughnut.  It is now my doughnut.  It doesnt matter I eat it or I sell it to my coworker for a $10 upcharge.  The owner of the doughnut sold it willingly to a buyer who agreed to the price in exchange for the doughnut I own.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:09:39 PM EST
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I think the issue with KK is, he doesn't have a franchise.
He's using the KK name, but not paying to use the KK name.
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Yes, he has paid to use the KK name.

When he paid full retail price for the KK donuts, he gained the right to sell them as KK donuts.

If he were frying up his own donuts and putting them in KK boxes, then KK would have a claim against him. As it stands, KK should have no say in the matter other than to refuse to sell to him at their retail locations.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:10:40 PM EST
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If the guy really wanted to make some money, he'd be selling Shipley's donuts instead.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:11:04 PM EST
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As I recall a KK franchise is ridiculously expensive.

Sounds as if KK should better balance demand / uniqueness / supply / opex in some areas of the country.
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The only one I can recall here closed years ago, and it really didn't last very long.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:11:36 PM EST
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Worst MN donut harvest in 11 years.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:12:27 PM EST
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Yes, he has paid to use the KK name.

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That's not the way this works.  That's not the way any of this works.
You have no idea what you're talking about.  ARFCOM wannabe lawyers are hillarious...
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:14:24 PM EST
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Great!!  WTF does that have to do with KK limiting THEIR exposure?  They should say screw it because others do ??  Don't expect KK to act like dumb asses because other do.
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And this is why upper management is overpaid and under brained.

Morons can't even think outside the doughnut box.
And this is where some poeple show their ignorance about how the law and world work.
People buy and resell doughnuts all the time, same for cookies and other goodies. Hell, they even MAKE them in a unregistered kitchen and sell them at bake sales and such. GASP!!!!!
Great!!  WTF does that have to do with KK limiting THEIR exposure?  They should say screw it because others do ??  Don't expect KK to act like dumb asses because other do.
Do you have a KK franchise? You seem very concerned.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:18:56 PM EST
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Yes, he has paid to use the KK name.

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That's not the way this works.  That's not the way any of this works.
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That is exactly how it works, to the extent that he is not using their trademarks in any other way.

He cannot print a sign, banner, menu, etc. using the Krispy Kreme name, their logo, etc. He cannot claim to be affiliated with, employed by, or representing Krispy Kreme. He can, however, claim that the box of donuts that he bought at Krispy Kreme are, in fact, "Kripsy Kreme Donuts".

If that were not the case, every single sale of a used item that has a trademarked name or brand, would be a trademark violation. If you buy a Ford F-150, you can sell it as a Ford F-150. You cannot claim to be a Ford dealer, you cannot represent yourself as part of the Ford Motor Corporation, but you can sell YOUR Ford F-150. He can sell HIS Krispy Kreme donuts.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:22:53 PM EST
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He should make them a donut filled with warm Gofukyaself.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:25:21 PM EST
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Are Krispy Kreme donuts that good?
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:25:26 PM EST
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Itwouldn't surprise me if there were some health department regs regarding resale of food products.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:28:06 PM EST
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That's kind of like Glock telling me I can't sell a G19, that I bought legally, to another private party.  the guy didn't sign a contract.  He did enter into a sale with the company, in which they took payment, in return for a product.  Krusty Kreme should get bent.

What the guy does with HIS donuts, is HIS business.  I don't see how they can have any leg to stand on, legally.
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No kidding.  I'll do what-the-$%^&-ever I want with my new donuts.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:29:44 PM EST
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From best to worst:

1. Shipley's


2. Krispy Kreme

3. Dunkin Donuts
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:31:01 PM EST
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How is that?  They belong to me, do they not?  This is assuming, no outside interference from 3 letter agencies (like, "Hey, you're a firearms dealer").  I the dude is not mis-representing them, what the hell do they care?

Let's assume then that I am selling paper, that I bought from Staples, in 500 sheet reams.  Can I not re-sell those reams of paper to someone that happens to come along and want to buy paper?"
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Exactly. Telling/asking him to stop reselling their doughnuts is the first step. This reminds me of the Popeye's(?) Chicken reseller in an actual restaurant (I mean, loosely, I think they made other food).

And no, riverrockar, this isn't like you buying a G19 and reselling it. This is like you buying dozens of G19s every week/month and selling every single one of them. Glock has every right to ask you to stop, or tell you to stop, or refuse to sell them to you, including any future new Glock you may ever purchase from a licensed dealer. Glock's business, Glock's rules. Of course, they could also want to make you a licensed dealer too.
How is that?  They belong to me, do they not?  This is assuming, no outside interference from 3 letter agencies (like, "Hey, you're a firearms dealer").  I the dude is not mis-representing them, what the hell do they care?

Let's assume then that I am selling paper, that I bought from Staples, in 500 sheet reams.  Can I not re-sell those reams of paper to someone that happens to come along and want to buy paper?"
?? You can't possibly be serious.

Suppose I own Staples and discover that you're buying dozens of case of reams of paper and reselling it, every week. Am I under some sort of obligation to continue to sell you paper? Of course not.
I have every right to ask you to stop or tell you to stop, stop selling you paper, and need no reason to do so. Nothing in that suggests that I'm telling you that you cannot resell your property, even if some of that property is paper previously purchased from Staples.

You ask "Why the hell do they care"? It's none of your business. Either Krispy Kreme sells the doughnuts, or they do not. What obligation do they have to explain themselves to you?
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:31:25 PM EST
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Do you have a KK franchise? You seem very concerned.
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And this is why upper management is overpaid and under brained.

Morons can't even think outside the doughnut box.
And this is where some poeple show their ignorance about how the law and world work.
People buy and resell doughnuts all the time, same for cookies and other goodies. Hell, they even MAKE them in a unregistered kitchen and sell them at bake sales and such. GASP!!!!!
Great!!  WTF does that have to do with KK limiting THEIR exposure?  They should say screw it because others do ??  Don't expect KK to act like dumb asses because other do.
Do you have a KK franchise? You seem very concerned.
No but I have met the president of KK several times. I live within a few miles of the original very first KK store.  The President of KK was at that store for Halloween and treated my Sons family to free donuts etc. My daughter attended school with his daughter and they were friends.

They are GOOD people, they do plenty for charity and fundraisers around here.

Contrary to some of the dullards around here who think they know something....... this is about the law and legal exposure ...... period. It ain't about being nasty.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:32:23 PM EST
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I guarantee you there are among other regs.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:35:11 PM EST
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How can they stop him from reselling?  He owns them.  As long as what hes selling is really delivery, wtf?
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This.

Corporations should always consider how to spin it into a positive versus risk backlash.

As is, allowing reselling donuts is all downside and no upside for Krispy Kreme though, not surprised they wanted it to stop.
How can they stop him from reselling?  He owns them.  As long as what hes selling is really delivery, wtf?
He can't sell doughnuts he doesn't have in the first place...
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:36:30 PM EST
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Are Krispy Kreme donuts that good?
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Yes

Easily
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:37:05 PM EST
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It is obvious that you have had limited exposure to fine donuts.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:37:09 PM EST
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Lol

High school stadiums all over Ohio sell pizza from chain places or local places nearby
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:39:11 PM EST
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No but I have met the president of KK several times. I live within a few miles of the original very first KK store.  The President of KK was at that store for Halloween and treated my Sons family to free donuts etc. My daughter attended school with his daughter and they were friends.

They are GOOD people, they do plenty for charity and fundraisers around here.

Contrary to some of the dullards around here who think they know something....... this is about the law and legal exposure ...... period. It ain't about being nasty.
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High school football stadiums are gonna all go down in flames
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:39:30 PM EST
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KK lawyers contacted him by phone?  I would think cease and desist needs a letter.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:40:32 PM EST
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KK opened a store in a medium sized town near me and promptly went out of business.

Got their ass handed to them by 2 independent ops and a Dunkin’ Donuts. LOL
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:41:55 PM EST
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Are Krispy Kreme donuts that good?
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It is obvious that you have had limited exposure to fine donuts.
Oh I eat a shit ton of donuts

Now the ones he’s selling obviously aren’t fresh and hot but some Krispy Kreme’s fresh from the store when the hot light is on are pure heaven

There’s a small town store I still go to almost weekly to meet my dad for coffee and a donut and I’m pretty sure the same lady has been making them there for many many decades. They’re good. But so is Krispy Kreme
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:41:58 PM EST
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Watch out boys, we may be on the verge of a donut conspiracy

Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:44:25 PM EST
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Worst MN donut harvest in 11 years.
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Worst MN donut harvest in 11 years.
Marshmallow Farming Too much rain ruins marshmallow crop in North Carolina
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:48:01 PM EST
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Oh I eat a shit ton of donuts

Now the ones he’s selling obviously aren’t fresh and hot but some Krispy Kreme’s fresh from the store when the hot light is on are pure heaven

There’s a small town store I still go to almost weekly to meet my dad for coffee and a donut and I’m pretty sure the same lady has been making them there for many many decades. They’re good. But so is Krispy Kreme
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Are Krispy Kreme donuts that good?
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It is obvious that you have had limited exposure to fine donuts.
Oh I eat a shit ton of donuts

Now the ones he’s selling obviously aren’t fresh and hot but some Krispy Kreme’s fresh from the store when the hot light is on are pure heaven

There’s a small town store I still go to almost weekly to meet my dad for coffee and a donut and I’m pretty sure the same lady has been making them there for many many decades. They’re good. But so is Krispy Kreme
If you ever find yourself in the south, try Shipley's.

To put in perspective just how good they are, I have heard the following question used in an interview (in a field that has nothing to do with donuts or law enforcement)

"If your career and life depended on the answer to this question, which brand of donuts do you buy?"

The only acceptable answer was Shipley's.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:49:16 PM EST
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[Jerry Reed]
North bound and down, load up and trucking. We gona do what they say cant be done.
He's got a long way to go, and a short time to get there.
He's north bound, just watch ol' "KK" run.
Keep your foot hard on the pedal. Son, never mind them brakes.
Let it all hang out 'cause we got a run to make.
The boys are hungry in MSP and there's KK in DesMoines,IA.
And he'll bring it back no matter what it takes.[/Jerry Reed]
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:51:37 PM EST
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Krispy Kreme didn't even invent the doughtnut and are copying the original doughnut design. I suppose their straphangers will be along shortly to sing their praises, however.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:52:27 PM EST
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No.  But people are that dumb.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:53:47 PM EST
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He’s not selling the donuts.  He’s charging for a delivery service.
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He can't sell doughnuts he doesn't have in the first place...
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Yes.

But if they sell him doughnuts, they can't bitch.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:56:45 PM EST
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Ya no shit. Talk about bad business
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:56:45 PM EST
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Lots of people do that for fund raising.
Churches, Boy Scouts, etc.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:56:58 PM EST
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This.

Fuck them.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 8:59:05 PM EST
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Krispy Kreme aren’t even that good. If anything, this will further escalate the price of the smuggled KK donuts to Minnesota. Kid is going to need shills to buy the donuts, I wonder if Iowa Krispy Kreme management will start asking about Straw Buyers. Are you buying these donuts for personal use?
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 9:09:05 PM EST
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A friend is pranking him.
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Corporations should always consider how to spin it into a positive versus risk backlash.

As is, allowing reselling donuts is all downside and no upside for Krispy Kreme though, not surprised they wanted it to stop.
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This.

Corporations should always consider how to spin it into a positive versus risk backlash.

As is, allowing reselling donuts is all downside and no upside for Krispy Kreme though, not surprised they wanted it to stop.
How so?

They haven't lost shit when there's no KK store in the area where they are being sold, and they made full profit off of the dude's initiative. After buying something at full price, it's his, and he can do with it as he wishes.

Dumbass move by KK... Should've made an attempt at a franchise for the good PR instead of stepping on their dick.
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 9:11:20 PM EST
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Yes.

But if they sell him doughnuts, they can't bitch.
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He can't sell doughnuts he doesn't have in the first place...
Yes.

But if they sell him doughnuts, they can't bitch.
"Hey, stop reselling our doughnuts!"
"Fuck KK" (from this thread)

What do you think that's a prelude to?
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Link Posted: 11/3/2019 9:14:22 PM EST
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What the guy does with HIS donuts, is HIS business.  I don't see how they can have any leg to stand on, legally.
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Not saying YOU would do this, but suppose someone bought a bunch of KK donuts, took them elsewhere, pissed all over them & then re-sold them. Or put ground glass in them & re-sold them?

Now, who is going to get sued, the broke college kid or deep-pockets KK?  
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 9:17:26 PM EST
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Not saying YOU would do this, but suppose someone bought a bunch of KK donuts, took them elsewhere, pissed all over them & then re-sold them. Or put ground glass in them & re-sold them?

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Both will be sued.

ETA The kid, KK Corp, the franchise and the clerk
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 9:18:03 PM EST
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Not saying YOU would do this, but suppose someone bought a bunch of KK donuts, took them elsewhere, pissed all over them & then re-sold them. Or put ground glass in them & re-sold them?

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What the guy does with HIS donuts, is HIS business.  I don't see how they can have any leg to stand on, legally.
Not saying YOU would do this, but suppose someone bought a bunch of KK donuts, took them elsewhere, pissed all over them & then re-sold them. Or put ground glass in them & re-sold them?

Now, who is going to get sued, the broke college kid or deep-pockets KK?  
If that is the concern, how does one explain Ubereats and Grubhub (and similar delivery services)?
Link Posted: 11/3/2019 9:24:32 PM EST
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On further thought, why in the world would the local franchise owner not want this to continue? Seems like a win-win to sell large quantities of product at full retail and have someone else distribute elsewhere.
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On further thought, why in the world would the local franchise owner not want this to continue? Seems like a win-win to sell large quantities of product at full retail and have someone else distribute elsewhere.
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I don’t know how it works on the business side.

Around here gas stations and grocery stores will have KK donut holes and donuts in boxes for sale.  No KK within 100 miles.

Possibly it’s the nearest franchise that supplies them. But I don’t know for sure.
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I'm too lazy to research,  but does KK even have an "office" in NE that would affect sales in IA?

How did a KK attorney even get the kids cell phone number?

An attorney would have sent a official letter, not made a phone call.

IMHO.
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I'm too lazy to research,  but does KK even have an "office" in NE that would affect sales in IA?

How did a KK attorney even get the kids cell phone number.

An attorney would have sent a official letter, not made a phone call.

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FWIW - kudos for them for at least going the phone call “hey need you to stop” route instead of going full lawyer lawsuit mode.

If the story is true as told.
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