Laser/Radar jammer vs just paying the ticket (Page 3 of 3)
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: I wasn't in a hurry to get anywhere, I was just letting the horses out to play. Cop thought my 3 pedal Cadi was pretty cool.  Attached File |
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Originally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft: over 100 I haven't done that in well over a decade and it was driving straight roads of the empty desert flats of NV/UT Doesn't matter if you have a detector or not. Always follow the 3 rules of speeding: 1. NEVER drive faster than it is safe. 2. NEVER drive faster than you are willing to accept consequences of the resulting ticket. 3. NEVER be a dick. Like I told my last wife, I says, "Honey, I never drive faster than I can see. Besides that, it's all in the reflexes." |
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: I tend to drive at night if it's long distance; less traffic and cops. My "trip" cars can all do about 450 miles a tank @ 85-90, and those speeds are perfectly sustainable in most of the SE. It seems that once you get to the northern half of the country, cops have a stick up their ass and you need to stick closer to the speed limit. Originally Posted By chibajoe: Originally Posted By 74HC: Originally Posted By morning_would: Your math ain't mathing. 400 miles at 75MPH = 5.33 hours 400 miles at 90MPH = 4.44 hours I tend to drive at night if it's long distance; less traffic and cops. My "trip" cars can all do about 450 miles a tank @ 85-90, and those speeds are perfectly sustainable in most of the SE. It seems that once you get to the northern half of the country, cops have a stick up their ass and you need to stick closer to the speed limit. It's not worth it, and thats just thinking about potential obstacles in the roadway ( such as deer ) you will have even less time to brake for and not even taking into consideration the multiple violations you are opening yourself up to. If you are driving at night at those speeds also I am going to guess that you probably are not 100% rested either. On interstates ? I'll keep up with the flow of traffic. If the speed limit is 65 and people in my lane are doing 75-85 I will do 75-85. If I am the only car on the roadway ? I will do 5-8 mph over that 65 mph limit so I don't get a ticket. That cop was being kind. Recognize and embrace that. I also see that your original join date was 2006, so I am going to guess you are in your late 40's/50's. You should know better than to be thinking like a 20 something year old |
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Originally Posted By glocke12: It's not worth it, and thats just thinking about potential obstacles in the roadway ( such as deer ) you will have even less time to brake for and not even taking into consideration the multiple violations you are opening yourself up to. If you are driving at night at those speeds also I am going to guess that you probably are not 100% rested either. On interstates ? I'll keep up with the flow of traffic. If the speed limit is 65 and people in my lane are doing 75-85 I will do 75-85. If I am the only car on the roadway ? I will do 5-8 mph over that 65 mph limit so I don't get a ticket. That cop was being kind. Recognize and embrace that. I also see that your original join date was 2006, so I am going to guess you are in your late 40's/50's. You should know better than to be thinking like a 20 something year old I've been driving for over 40 years. Not once have I hit a deer, gator, moose, elephant, or anything bigger than a cat that decided to suicide itself by literally running under my car as I drove past. To be fair, I did have an at fault accident 30 some odd years ago, but I changed my driving behavior so that circumstance is unlikely to happen again. However, my point with this post was not to discuss my miscreant ways, but rather to question the necessity of running ECM vs just taking your lumps and paying the fine. |
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: I've been driving for over 40 years. Not once have I hit a deer, gator, moose, elephant, or anything bigger than a cat that decided to suicide itself by literally running under my car as I drove past. To be fair, I did have an at fault accident 30 some odd years ago, but I changed my driving behavior so that circumstance is unlikely to happen again. However, my point with this post was not to discuss my miscreant ways, but rather to question the necessity of running ECM vs just taking your lumps and paying the fine. It doesn't have to be either/or. ECM are just another tool. My opinion is that a detector can help spot enforcement efforts and lower (not eliminate) the chances of getting a ticket, and over the long term that pays for the detector. One must still be observant and vigilant, which to me are part of defensive driving anyway so not really a burden, but if you're driving at "ticket me now!" speeds I think it pays to try to be hyper-vigilant. You cannot rely 100% on a detector. Drive while watching for speed enforcement like you don't have one. I do not often drive or ride fast enough to where if a cop saw me, they would pull me over, but the detector tells me of nearby enforcement efforts and this makes me check my speed. Often, I am very close to the limit, even sometimes below, so am not necessarily at risk of a citation, but I still want to know if surveillance tools are being used on me for a victimless crime. |
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: I've been driving for over 40 years. Not once have I hit a deer, gator, moose, elephant, or anything bigger than a cat that decided to suicide itself by literally running under my car as I drove past. Originally Posted By chibajoe: Originally Posted By glocke12: It's not worth it, and thats just thinking about potential obstacles in the roadway ( such as deer ) you will have even less time to brake for and not even taking into consideration the multiple violations you are opening yourself up to. If you are driving at night at those speeds also I am going to guess that you probably are not 100% rested either. On interstates ? I'll keep up with the flow of traffic. If the speed limit is 65 and people in my lane are doing 75-85 I will do 75-85. If I am the only car on the roadway ? I will do 5-8 mph over that 65 mph limit so I don't get a ticket. That cop was being kind. Recognize and embrace that. I also see that your original join date was 2006, so I am going to guess you are in your late 40's/50's. You should know better than to be thinking like a 20 something year old I've been driving for over 40 years. Not once have I hit a deer, gator, moose, elephant, or anything bigger than a cat that decided to suicide itself by literally running under my car as I drove past. Well then, you have nothing to worry about, since they only run out in front of other people. You must have those deer whistles on you car. |
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Originally Posted By Emoto: It doesn't have to be either/or. ECM are just another tool. My opinion is that a detector can help spot enforcement efforts and lower (not eliminate) the chances of getting a ticket, and over the long term that pays for the detector. One must still be observant and vigilant, which to me are part of defensive driving anyway so not really a burden, but if you're driving at "ticket me now!" speeds I think it pays to try to be hyper-vigilant. You cannot rely 100% on a detector. Drive while watching for speed enforcement like you don't have one. I do not often drive or ride fast enough to where if a cop saw me, they would pull me over, but the detector tells me of nearby enforcement efforts and this makes me check my speed. Often, I am very close to the limit, even sometimes below, so am not necessarily at risk of a citation, but I still want to know if surveillance tools are being used on me for a victimless crime. Originally Posted By Emoto: Originally Posted By chibajoe: I've been driving for over 40 years. Not once have I hit a deer, gator, moose, elephant, or anything bigger than a cat that decided to suicide itself by literally running under my car as I drove past. To be fair, I did have an at fault accident 30 some odd years ago, but I changed my driving behavior so that circumstance is unlikely to happen again. However, my point with this post was not to discuss my miscreant ways, but rather to question the necessity of running ECM vs just taking your lumps and paying the fine. It doesn't have to be either/or. ECM are just another tool. My opinion is that a detector can help spot enforcement efforts and lower (not eliminate) the chances of getting a ticket, and over the long term that pays for the detector. One must still be observant and vigilant, which to me are part of defensive driving anyway so not really a burden, but if you're driving at "ticket me now!" speeds I think it pays to try to be hyper-vigilant. You cannot rely 100% on a detector. Drive while watching for speed enforcement like you don't have one. I do not often drive or ride fast enough to where if a cop saw me, they would pull me over, but the detector tells me of nearby enforcement efforts and this makes me check my speed. Often, I am very close to the limit, even sometimes below, so am not necessarily at risk of a citation, but I still want to know if surveillance tools are being used on me for a victimless crime. Laser is actually easier to deal with than radar if you spend the $$. I can't afford to, so I drive slower. |
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: https://i.postimg.cc/3wBrMYj8/ctsv.jpg Yes, the governor has been removed. Yes, it's modified. No, I have never tried to see exactly how fast it will go.  
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Some places allow you to take a driver safety class in return for downgrading the ticket. Over the years I have found just slowing down is the best way to avoid tickets but then again I am retired and never in a hurry anymore. |
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Originally Posted By morning_would: Hence my state of residence. It is completely easy to do that out here without many others on the road. Right, wrong, or indifferent, my math is solid. I was on the road for decades, and yes, your basic math is correct, but in reality you are not traveling every day, every trip at 90. |
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: Yep. Completely clean tag, no other cars on the road, he was right out in the open and not hiding behind a bush or anything. I was just focused on the road and didn't see him until it was too late. Originally Posted By chibajoe: Originally Posted By Tejas1836: So, OP, you were tagged with a laser? Yep. Completely clean tag, no other cars on the road, he was right out in the open and not hiding behind a bush or anything. I was just focused on the road and didn't see him until it was too late. Now change that to something that was going to move into the road like a deer or another car and tell me how you safe you were being. I understand want to drive. I also understand wanting to go fast. I don't understand putting others in danger for my wants. |
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Originally Posted By BURN: Now change that to something that was going to move into the road like a deer or another car and tell me how you safe you were being. I understand want to drive. I also understand wanting to go fast. I don't understand putting others in danger for my wants. Originally Posted By BURN: Originally Posted By chibajoe: Originally Posted By Tejas1836: So, OP, you were tagged with a laser? Yep. Completely clean tag, no other cars on the road, he was right out in the open and not hiding behind a bush or anything. I was just focused on the road and didn't see him until it was too late. Now change that to something that was going to move into the road like a deer or another car and tell me how you safe you were being. I understand want to drive. I also understand wanting to go fast. I don't understand putting others in danger for my wants. Deer have already been covered. They never run out in front of OP. I assume he has deer whistles, but he has not confirmed. |
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: I tend to drive at night if it's long distance; less traffic and cops. My "trip" cars can all do about 450 miles a tank @ 85-90, and those speeds are perfectly sustainable in most of the SE. It seems that once you get to the northern half of the country, cops have a stick up their ass and you need to stick closer to the speed limit. Driving 90 at night around here would be a death wish with all the deer. |
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From a lot of the replies I'm guess we are finding out who all the left lane camping, speed limit or under, everyone else is going to kill the world members are Honestly I haven't even had a radar detector in over 15yrs. I've gotten some pretty serious tickets in the past but nothing in a long time. I usually just drive based on the area and situation. Usually keep it in the 10ish over area, but based on roads and traffic flow sometimes triple digits are warranted. 
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Originally Posted By ske714: Deer have already been covered. They never run out in front of OP. I assume he has deer whistles, but he has not confirmed. Do those even work? Driving at night around here at times is like playing frogger. Deer, moose, raccoons, skunks....etc. |
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Originally Posted By NIevo: Do those even work? Driving at night around here at times is like playing frogger. Deer, moose, raccoons, skunks....etc. Originally Posted By NIevo: Originally Posted By ske714: Deer have already been covered. They never run out in front of OP. I assume he has deer whistles, but he has not confirmed. Do those even work? Driving at night around here at times is like playing frogger. Deer, moose, raccoons, skunks....etc. lol! No. If they did, they would be factory equipment. 
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Originally Posted By ske714: lol! No. If they did, they would be factory equipment. Originally Posted By ske714: Originally Posted By NIevo: Originally Posted By ske714: Deer have already been covered. They never run out in front of OP. I assume he has deer whistles, but he has not confirmed. Do those even work? Driving at night around here at times is like playing frogger. Deer, moose, raccoons, skunks....etc. lol! No. If they did, they would be factory equipment. Figured not, and I'd never put them on any of my vehicles, but see them all the time. |
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Originally Posted By NIevo: Do those even work? Driving at night around here at times is like playing frogger. Deer, moose, raccoons, skunks....etc. Originally Posted By ske714: lol! No. If they did, they would be factory equipment. Years ago, I lived in a medium sized town in a heavily wooded area in New England. I worked for a guy who grew up with the then police chief, so I used to hear various things. It has been so long that I can't remember the numbers anymore, so I'll make up the numbers but they will illustrate a point. They used to have 20 collisions between police cars and deer a year, which led to considerable expense. They put deer whistles on all of the police cars to see if it would help, and annual deer collisions went down to like 2. Again, I cannot recall the actual numbers, but it was a huge drop. |
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Originally Posted By lorazepam: I stopped getting tickets when I stopped using detectors and followed the stay under 10 over rule. Saving 15 minutes on a 6 hour drive was not worth the hassle. Yea, I thought under 10 over was within tolerance, was in KY. My son got a ticket for 6 MPH over.  I have been going 36-37 in a 30 because 30 is boring  and it was 35-40 limit on the same roads a few months ago. FDOT dropped all the speed limits.Has nothing to do with me being in a hurry more of entertainment at the sloth pace they have enacted. I thought 36-37 in a 30 would not even get someone pulled over, apparently that is not the case here. If I live in a speed trap I'm going to entertain myself. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By CDW4ME: Yea, I thought under 10 over was within tolerance, was in KY. My son got a ticket for 6 MPH over. I have been going 36-37 in a 30 because 30 is boring and it was 35-40 limit on the same roads a few months ago. FDOT dropped all the speed limits.Has nothing to do with me being in a hurry more of entertainment at the sloth pace they have enacted. I thought 36-37 in a 30 would not even get someone pulled over, apparently that is not the case here. If I live in a speed trap I'm going to entertain myself. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/302943/1000011597_jpg-3832545.JPG Originally Posted By CDW4ME: Originally Posted By lorazepam: I stopped getting tickets when I stopped using detectors and followed the stay under 10 over rule. Saving 15 minutes on a 6 hour drive was not worth the hassle. Yea, I thought under 10 over was within tolerance, was in KY. My son got a ticket for 6 MPH over. I have been going 36-37 in a 30 because 30 is boring and it was 35-40 limit on the same roads a few months ago. FDOT dropped all the speed limits.Has nothing to do with me being in a hurry more of entertainment at the sloth pace they have enacted. I thought 36-37 in a 30 would not even get someone pulled over, apparently that is not the case here. If I live in a speed trap I'm going to entertain myself. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/302943/1000011597_jpg-3832545.JPG Part of the problem with police is there is no consistency nor common sense used 90% of the time. I got pulled over a few years ago for passing a cop on a 2 lane (in each direction) road. He had just pulled out of a side road so I saw him in plenty of time and set my cruise to right at or maybe 1-2over. He wasn't even up to the speed limit when I passed. He asked why I was going so fast and felt the need to pass him and I told him cause he wasn't even doing the speed limit You could tell he just wanted something to do. He didn't ticket me but definitely one of those WTF moments.
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: Originally Posted By chibajoe: Originally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft: over 100 I haven't done that in well over a decade and it was driving straight roads of the empty desert flats of NV/UT Doesn't matter if you have a detector or not. Always follow the 3 rules of speeding: 1. NEVER drive faster than it is safe. Factory limited top speed is 191MPH, I was nowhere near that  2. NEVER drive faster than you are willing to accept consequences of the resulting ticket. I wasn't. 3. NEVER be a dick. Cop and I had a good laugh over it, and we went our separate ways. Yeah, new cars never have tires blow out or anything. Definitely go wot as often as u can |
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Originally Posted By Emoto: It doesn't have to be either/or. ECM are just another tool. My opinion is that a detector can help spot enforcement efforts and lower (not eliminate) the chances of getting a ticket, and over the long term that pays for the detector. One must still be observant and vigilant, which to me are part of defensive driving anyway so not really a burden, but if you're driving at "ticket me now!" speeds I think it pays to try to be hyper-vigilant. You cannot rely 100% on a detector. Drive while watching for speed enforcement like you don't have one. I do not often drive or ride fast enough to where if a cop saw me, they would pull me over, but the detector tells me of nearby enforcement efforts and this makes me check my speed. Often, I am very close to the limit, even sometimes below, so am not necessarily at risk of a citation, but I still want to know if surveillance tools are being used on me for a victimless crime. Originally Posted By Emoto: Originally Posted By chibajoe: I've been driving for over 40 years. Not once have I hit a deer, gator, moose, elephant, or anything bigger than a cat that decided to suicide itself by literally running under my car as I drove past. To be fair, I did have an at fault accident 30 some odd years ago, but I changed my driving behavior so that circumstance is unlikely to happen again. However, my point with this post was not to discuss my miscreant ways, but rather to question the necessity of running ECM vs just taking your lumps and paying the fine. It doesn't have to be either/or. ECM are just another tool. My opinion is that a detector can help spot enforcement efforts and lower (not eliminate) the chances of getting a ticket, and over the long term that pays for the detector. One must still be observant and vigilant, which to me are part of defensive driving anyway so not really a burden, but if you're driving at "ticket me now!" speeds I think it pays to try to be hyper-vigilant. You cannot rely 100% on a detector. Drive while watching for speed enforcement like you don't have one. I do not often drive or ride fast enough to where if a cop saw me, they would pull me over, but the detector tells me of nearby enforcement efforts and this makes me check my speed. Often, I am very close to the limit, even sometimes below, so am not necessarily at risk of a citation, but I still want to know if surveillance tools are being used on me for a victimless crime. I like my Uniden and while it greatly reduces the chance of a ticket it's not zero. Lidar is the big threat but takes more effort for the LEOs to run. Not surprisingly enforcement seems to coincide with good weather as the cops don't want to be out in 100 degree heat any more than anyone else though this is a personal observation. The plain fact is there's really no upside to LE interaction for the average citizen and a detector along with not driving completely insane or drunk go a long way to avoiding that. |
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: It's probably the supercharger whine, does the same thing as deer whistles, right?  Originally Posted By chibajoe: Originally Posted By ske714: Well then, you have nothing to worry about, since they only run out in front of other people. You must have those deer whistles on you car. It's probably the supercharger whine, does the same thing as deer whistles, right? 
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Originally Posted By Jeffg: Only a fool would just pay the ticket. It's apparently already established that I'm a fool for driving fast enough to get the ticked in the first place. Meh, I've contested tickets in the past. If LSP had pulled me over, I would definitely fight it, but it was a local PD probably testing out his new toy. Plus, it was cheap; not worth my time to fight it. |
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