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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:05:05 AM EST
Somebody spent a lot of time putting that up. Now they are taking it down and it's a $1,000 fine if they catch you climbing up it.
 Locals weigh in on Haiku Stairs after more than a dozen hikers arrested  
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:06:08 AM EST
[#1]
Gay.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:06:48 AM EST
[#2]
It's .....beautiful. Cardio and leg day, oh yeah!
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:08:49 AM EST
[#3]
Fuck it. $100 fee per hiker, sign a waiver it’s dangerous and being rescued is a $5000.00 fee, with additional$10,000 fine. Profit. $
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:10:37 AM EST
[#4]
Ok, so who owns the land? That is who gets to decide how it is used. If the owner wants it closed it should be closed.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:10:39 AM EST
[#5]
It's too dangerous so the government steps in and closes a climb that's been in use for generations.
 Govern me harder daddy.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:13:47 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck it. $100 fee per hiker, sign a waiver it’s dangerous and being rescued is a $5000.00 fee, with additional$10,000 fine. Profit. $ This. Leave it in place and open. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:19:12 AM EST
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Interesting history of origin of the stairs:
In 1942, contractors for the U.S. Navy began construction of the Ha?iku Radio Station, a top secret facility that was to be used to transmit radio signals to Navy ships that were then operating throughout the Pacific.[3] In order to obtain the necessary height for the antennae, the Navy stretched them across Ha?iku Valley, a natural amphitheater. Some remains of the wooden ladder may still be seen beside the metal steps. The radio station was commissioned in 1943. To transmit such a powerful signal, the Navy needed a transmitter of greater capability than possible with vacuum tube technology at the time. They therefore decided upon an Alexanderson alternator, a huge device capable of generating powerful low-frequency radio signals, and requiring a large antenna.[3] When the Naval Air Station Kaneohe Bay was transferred to the Marine Corps as Marine Corps Air Station Kaneohe Bay in the 1950s, the U.S. Coast Guard used the Haiku Radio Station site for an Omega Navigation System station. In the mid-1950s, the wooden stairs were replaced by sections of metal steps and ramps — by one count, 3,922 steps. The Coast Guard allowed access in the 1970s but stopped after an appearance on Magnum P.I. increased visitation.[4] The station and trail were closed to the public in 1987.[5] WikiLINK Quoted: Ok, so who owns the land? That is who gets to decide how it is used. If the owner wants it closed it should be closed. According to the above link, the climbers were creating problems for land owners. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:20:03 AM EST
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:20:49 AM EST
[#9]
I remember the Magnum, P.I. episode.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:21:52 AM EST
[#10]
The pictures on google maps show metal steps which are deteriorating. Raise funds and have volunteers rebuild the damaged sections. The views are incredible
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:29:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck it. $100 fee per hiker, sign a waiver it’s dangerous and being rescued is a $5000.00 fee, with additional$10,000 fine. Profit. $ from the wiki The mayor said that removal will proceed as a high-use tourist attraction is inappropriate with an entrance through a residential neighborhood that lacks the room for necessary facilities such as parking. It seems adjoining land owners are getting the short end of the stick, dealing with crowds and litter. It's an attractive nuisance, and will cause the adjoining land owners property insurance to increase. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:29:51 AM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember the Magnum, P.I. episode. yep, I remember some interior shots inside a building too, good industrial sea foam green paint iirc. 
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:30:23 AM EST
[#13]
People will still come, only now they will wear in a trail devoid of vegetation and cause erosion.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:31:29 AM EST
[#14]
 Quote HistoryQuoted: It's too dangerous so the government steps in and closes a climb that's been in use for generations. Govern me harder daddy. That lisping faggot in the news needs to shut the fuck up. It's a shame that an old lady has bigger balls than that hairy piece of shit in the news segment.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:35:17 AM EST
[#15]
An impressive climb.
Worthwhile adventures have risks. Just leave it alone. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:40:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting history of origin of the stairs: WikiLINK According to the above link, the climbers were creating problems for land owners. A few people going through the neighborhood to get to the base of the hike pissed off a few people who lived there. When we did it we parked a long ways off and walked in silently through the neighborhood and along the H3 access roads to get to the trail head at 3am. It was an epic experience. For anyone who says it’s dangerous - bullshit. The friends of the haiku stairs maintained it until they were banned from it by the city. It’s the cities’s fault if the stairs are in disrepair. And it’s still far safer than dozens of open and legal ridgeline hikes that don’t have stairs - like Three Peaks. Stairway to heaven is ONLY a problem because of the neighbors and the city |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:41:36 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The pictures on google maps show metal steps which are deteriorating. Raise funds and have volunteers rebuild the damaged sections. The views are incredible They DID, until the city closed it. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:42:26 AM EST
[#18]
Steep steps climb the sky,
Lava rocks guard the ascent, Peril in each stride. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:43:01 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's too dangerous so the government steps in and closes a climb that's been in use for generations. Govern me harder daddy. Yup. I'd like to do it. I'm sad it closed. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:43:52 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: yep, I remember some interior shots inside a building too, good industrial sea foam green paint iirc. That’s not on the stairway. That’s the base building off in the jungle, it was the power and transmitter building for the Navy station and then later Coast guard Loran sta. The only structures still up on the stairway are the remnants of tram buildings, and then a very small hut at the very top they used to have an antenna on it. I’ve never hiked the other part - they actually lined the entire valley floor with cable to make a massive ULF antenna out of the mountain |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:50:59 AM EST
[#21]
Build a Tram, a Restaurant at the top, Repair the Stairs, and charge Money. WINNING
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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:06:01 AM EST
[#22]
I've hiked the stairs, it's an awesome experience. The problem with removing sections of the metal stairs is that people who are determined to hike up (and they won't be stopped) will be in more danger as they hike sections of the bare ground knife edge ridge. I get that the neighbors are complaining about traffic and parking, but the stairs were there long before any of them built their homes.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:20:56 AM EST
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Neck-tattooed gentleman at 1:35 is a "Pearl City H.S. Grad."
Seems like that is a really big deal for the island residents. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:26:55 AM EST
[#24]
My have illegal hike stairs in '90s when I lived there. Forgive the baggy jeans, they were the fashion of the time.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:27:39 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, so who owns the land? That is who gets to decide how it is used. If the owner wants it closed it should be closed. This, although with the population of the US set to grow 50% more recreational facilities should be built. The city should allow owners to build such places for commercial operation. Federal, state, and local government should open more facilities and if budgets are unavailable then let private companies build with long-term leases. Put hiker hostels along the PCT and other high use trails. Accommodate instead of restrict and exclude. More hotels at parks, open more land to ORVs, allow mechanical trail maintenance one week per year in wilderness areas, put the ski area back at Mt. Rainier, gondola across the Grand Canyon, etc. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:39:29 AM EST
[#26]
First world problems.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:45:02 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The pictures on google maps show metal steps which are deteriorating. Raise funds and have volunteers rebuild the damaged sections. The views are incredible Been there, can confirm views are incredible. Its also a pretty sketchy hike. Gay as fuck the government is trying to take it away- but leave it to the govt to destroy anything it touches. Was widely known that it’s “closed” but didn’t realize they’d arrest people for it. Also a lot of years ago though, so maybe they cared less. Good amount of people out there at the time but nowhere near diamondhead level crowded |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:45:34 AM EST
[#28]
Would be funny to see Joe Biden tumbling down those stairs like Sam in lord of the rings
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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:54:29 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's too dangerous so the government steps in and closes a climb that's been in use for generations. Govern me harder daddy. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:57:18 AM EST
[#30]
I did the climb years ago. There was a guard at the bottom. We bolted around him…. And managed not to get arrested. YMMV
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Posted: 9/7/2024 12:13:07 PM EST
[#31]
Haole is a way of life there.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 12:15:25 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember the Magnum, P.I. episode. Same. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 12:43:21 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember the Magnum, P.I. episode. Yes.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 12:53:02 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's too dangerous so the government steps in and closes a climb that's been in use for generations. Govern me harder daddy. Competency crisis and litigation is going to devastate the know way of life in the coming years. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 1:31:25 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember the Magnum, P.I. episode. Yep |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 1:42:10 PM EST
[#36]
It’s a great hike. I climbed it a few times before it was restricted. At that time there were a few missing sections. There are spots you can fall and it can be slippery. It rains a lot in that area. Unfortunately no one wants to accept liability for it and the city will get sued for every injury.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 1:50:12 PM EST
[#37]
Leave it open please.
Otherwise those people will start buying elk tags and hiking CO during hunting season. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:29:05 PM EST
[#38]
Just because something exists it doesn’t mean you have an automatic right to go play on it.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:36:59 PM EST
[#39]
You can till hike Olomana Three Peaks.
  Crawl Hike on Kauai is still there!  Kalalau Trail - Crawler's Ledge In Both Directions, Napali Coast, Kauai, Hawaii (GoPro Session) |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:44:49 PM EST
[#40]
It's hella dangerous and was decrepit in the 80s.
Can't imagine how bad it is now. Neighborhood is only bitching because of cars blocking the road because Hawaii parking/roads suck. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:00:11 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's hella dangerous and was decrepit in the 80s. Can't imagine how bad it is now. Neighborhood is only bitching because of cars blocking the road because Hawaii parking/roads suck. Again going back to my first post. Who owns the property? Do they want it closed? If so, fuck off. Property rights need to be a thing most holy in the US.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:05:38 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Again going back to my first post. Who owns the property? Do they want it closed? If so, fuck off. Property rights need to be a thing most holy in the US. Two seconds on Google says the city of Honolulu owns it since 2021 |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:07:55 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's too dangerous so the government steps in and closes a climb that's been in use for generations. Govern me harder daddy. I'm from the Government, and were here to help. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:28:46 PM EST
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:35:31 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I did the climb years ago. There was a guard at the bottom. We bolted around him…. And managed not to get arrested. YMMV I did it in 2011 ish, we started the hike before the guards shift began, and on the way down we saw him. He just asked how Many people were still up on the peak or on their way down because he was going home after the last hikers got off the stairs. No problems |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:40:06 PM EST
[#46]
HI is beautiful, if they had good gun laws, I would be there.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:41:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two seconds on Google says the city of Honolulu owns it since 2021 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Again going back to my first post. Who owns the property? Do they want it closed? If so, fuck off. Property rights need to be a thing most holy in the US. Two seconds on Google says the city of Honolulu owns it since 2021 Good enough. Shut it down. Arrest trespassers and call it a day. If you want it changed vote in someone that will or pressure them to make a change. Either way fuck trespassers and shoot on sight or arrest, whatever.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:50:01 PM EST
[#48]
Fuck that
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:02:43 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: HI is beautiful, if they had good gun laws, I would be there. Why I left. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:05:00 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's too dangerous so the government steps in and closes a climb that's been in use for generations. Govern me harder daddy. So much is locked up that didn't used to be. Glad I grew up when did. |
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