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Posted: 2/27/2022 10:52:33 PM EST
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As long as we can secure those nukes when the time comes to hell with Russia the country.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 10:52:46 PM EST
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That is a good possibility unless Biden and his Climate Change Doomers can keep oil prices high enough to finance Russia’s military ambition.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 10:56:20 PM EST
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If Ukraine can hold out and Putin expends too much of his military I think the wolves will gather and possibly take a chance for payback for what Russia has done to them in the past.
Maybe Ukraine is Putin's Ardennes offensive? Betting it all on a fast win while he can but if he fails there will be no going back. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 10:57:02 PM EST
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seems like they are on track to join North Korea in terms of status; unless they have some ace up their sleeve to get around the sanctions
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Posted: 2/27/2022 10:58:57 PM EST
[#5]
Either becomes a puppet/buffer state for China/NATO or Putin says fuck it and launches nukes.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 10:59:14 PM EST
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China is the new Russia.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:00:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Either becomes a puppet/buffer state for China/NATO or Putin says fuck it and launches nukes. Putin is a mafioso at heart. Before he launches the nukes, he'll try to use them for blackmail and get as much money as he can from them. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:01:50 PM EST
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This is why the US policy towards Russia is so insane. It won’t be Poland or any western country. It will be China deciding they need all those resources in the sparsely populated siberia. Imagine a China with those resources. But our policies have been pushing Russia towards China for decades.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:10:11 PM EST
[#9]
Nukes are the wild card and pushing Russia into a corner will lead to a few getting loose somewhere.
I just hope it’s Washington, DC. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:12:41 PM EST
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No one is going to mess with Russia, aside from sanctions, trade, etc. Their conventional forces may be sub-par, and their nuclear forces may be sub par, but nukes are still nukes.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:13:47 PM EST
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We only have China to worry about.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:17:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one is going to mess with Russia, aside from sanctions, trade, etc. Their conventional forces may be sub-par, and their nuclear forces may be sub par, but nukes are still nukes. My honest opinion is this; we are going to go full color revolution with Putin, the big enchilada. They've never been able to touch Russia and they feel it's time to do it before the big pivot to China. If it doesn't work out, and I don't think it will, the end result will be an extremely wrecked Russia at least financially that will then be less of a concern to China. At that point, it's US and China. In the meantime all these actions allow the ole Fabian Socialists to implement the green new deal/BBB plan. I weep for my children. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:19:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nukes are the wild card and pushing Russia into a corner will lead to a few getting loose somewhere. I just hope it’s Washington, DC. I hope @beitodesstrafe gets out of the way first! |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:22:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nukes are the wild card and pushing Russia into a corner will lead to a few getting loose somewhere. I just hope it’s Washington, DC. brilliant. My wife and kids thank you.  |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:22:36 PM EST
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Shirtless photos of Putin riding a pink mule while wearing a bicycle helmet and PT belt are going to be harder to jack off to. But, some will still manage.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:22:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My honest opinion is this; we are going to go full color revolution with Putin, the big enchilada. They've never been able to touch Russia and they feel it's time to do it before the big pivot to China. If it doesn't work out, and I don't think it will, the end result will be an extremely wrecked Russia at least financially that will then be less of a concern to China. At that point, it's US and China. In the meantime all these actions allow the ole Fabian Socialists to implement the green new deal/BBB plan. I weep for my children. This is where I'm at. The US has already fallen, Russia and China are left. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:25:14 PM EST
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I'm sure China is watching. Taking back Siberia is part of undoing the Century of Humiliation. With the West finding their testicles they might put Taiwan in the back burner and move Siberia up on the agenda.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:33:44 PM EST
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China numbah 1 now
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:35:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope @beitodesstrafe gets out of the way first! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nukes are the wild card and pushing Russia into a corner will lead to a few getting loose somewhere. I just hope it’s Washington, DC. I hope @beitodesstrafe gets out of the way first! 
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:39:58 PM EST
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Quoted: Russia will have half their current draft-age population in 5 years due to the post-Soviet Baby Bust. The Ukraine invasion was kind of a now or never moment for Russia to grab buffer lands. Now that they have shown Europe how weak they are what is going to happen in 5, 10, or even 20 years? I'm really wondering if Poland and the Baltic States are going to say "you have half our land and we want it back." Mike Seems like they'll actually be slightly better off in five years. 
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:41:39 PM EST
[#21]
 What would happen if Russia collapsed? |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:43:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: China is the new Russia. You are absolutely correct. Except that China's demographics make Russia look like a bustling young nation full of hope for the future. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:46:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: brilliant. My wife and kids thank you. Spare me the huge manatees, and get out of the cesspool now. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:51:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But more importantly, if they nuke our servers I can't work anymore. 
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:53:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nukes are the wild card and pushing Russia into a corner will lead to a few getting loose somewhere. I just hope it's Washington, DC. Well, the media in the past has said that Putin is cold and calculating. A cunning strategist who has it all planned out. Now he's a dangerous maniac who's simply reacting to what is happening and barely in control. I'm going to vote that he's probably the first more so than then today's media read. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:54:44 PM EST
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I think a lot of the talk about how weak they are ans how bad the invasion is going os a lot of wishful thinking on the part of the west.
Ukraine is a huge country..... They were not gonna take it in 24 hours. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 11:59:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But more importantly, if they nuke our servers I can't work anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But more importantly, if they nuke our servers I can't work anymore. Pretty sure the pe2e search changeover is gonna do that regardless. 
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Posted: 2/28/2022 12:04:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think a lot of the talk about how weak they are ans how bad the invasion is going os a lot of wishful thinking on the part of the west. Ukraine is a huge country..... They were not gonna take it in 24 hours. Not taking a country in 24 hours is one thing. Fulfilling the Glorious Russian Tradition of utterly fucking up your logistics to the point of rendering your troops ineffective is another matter entirely. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 12:12:30 AM EST
[#29]
I'm just shocked at how badly the Russian military sucks.
At least I know how we would do in a conventional fight against them. It wouldn't be close - our air force and navy would humiliate them. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 12:24:28 AM EST
[#30]
They have nukes, nobody will invade them. However, they are going to have internal problems because of this and likely the countries they “support” are going to have issues. Whatever units and equipment Putin sent in, that equipment is going to have to be replaced, that costs money.
I bet eastern Russia is looking really good to the Chinese right now. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 12:27:44 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nukes are the wild card and pushing Russia into a corner will lead to a few getting loose somewhere. I just hope it’s Washington, DC. New York New Jersey Commifornia Coast Portland Seattle Boston Baltimore |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 12:34:00 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They have nukes, nobody will invade them. However, they are going to have internal problems because of this and likely the countries they “support” are going to have issues. Whatever units and equipment Putin sent in, that equipment is going to have to be replaced, that costs money. I bet eastern Russia is looking really good to the Chinese right now. It's not about invasions anymore. Hasn't been for some time. That's just circus shit. Color revolution is where it's at. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 12:35:24 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why the US policy towards Russia is so insane. It won’t be Poland or any western country. It will be China deciding they need all those resources in the sparsely populated siberia. Imagine a China with those resources. But our policies have been pushing Russia towards China for decades. Not to mention a lot of his combat power is from the East, so there really isn't much left there if China decides to do Chinese things in Siberia...but the nukes really are a deterrent. I wonder if his nukes really got all the maintenance they needed over the years. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 1:01:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They have nukes, nobody will invade them. However, they are going to have internal problems because of this and likely the countries they "support" are going to have issues. Whatever units and equipment Putin sent in, that equipment is going to have to be replaced, that costs money. I bet eastern Russia is looking really good to the Chinese right now. China is now in the luxurious position of continuing to back Russia, if the RuAF unfuck themselves and win. Russia will be a defacto vassal state, beholden to China's benevolent resource purchases. Or, if Russia loses without using nukes, China can backstab Russia and take all of the disputed territories and then some. All in the name of global great justice. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 1:20:07 AM EST
[#35]
The globalists will rape them and then come after us.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 1:27:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The globalists will rape them and then come after us. Explain how. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:10:56 AM EST
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Russia has been weak for decades. Anyone who has seen the russian army afield knows what a fucking clown show it. They just got socks in 2013.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 4:43:51 AM EST
[#38]
A weak Russia means a stronger Germany and China.
Neither of those things is a net positive for us. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:29:56 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure the pe2e search changeover is gonna do that regardless.  Let's put all programs on chrome, what could possibly go wrong? |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:32:30 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nukes are the wild card and pushing Russia into a corner will lead to a few getting loose somewhere. I just hope it's Washington, DC. I'm 20 minutes from DC, along with DK-Prof and many other Conservative members. There are better ways to accomplish what you're inferring... |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:35:01 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Spare me the huge manatees, and get out of the cesspool now. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:35:16 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: China numbah 1 now Think about that statement for a minute. If china number one, Taiwan ???? would already be china island. No way china will invade Taiwan if there is any chance they will lose face. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:52:52 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If Ukraine can hold out and Putin expends too much of his military I think the wolves will gather and possibly take a chance for payback for what Russia has done to them in the past. Maybe Ukraine is Putin's Ardennes offensive? Betting it all on a fast win while he can but if he fails there will be no going back. Probably and Kiev will be his Stalingrad, those people will not back down or surrender. He is pretty much fucked at this point on many levels, world opinion, economically, militarily, unrest now in his own country, world is aligning against him. Belarus may revolt against him at this point because it they help him, they will be exposed to the same sanctions and they already have problems there with the people, they do not recognize the current president. I think it is only a short matter of time that you will see he has been disposed. The oligarchs, military and higher political figures / agencies will take care of business because they see their wealth and way of life evaporating before their eyes. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:58:16 AM EST
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First off, I’m shocked by the decay of the Russian military; at first I thought they sent in the C team, but now it just looks like they’re that bad. Are all their conventional forces that bad? This sure has the appearances of a systematic problem.
Three scenarios to ponder: 1. Russia leaves Ukraine with its tail between its legs, Russia is exposed & Putin is shown as impotent. Russia ceases to be Russia on the world stage. 2. Russia gets pissed at all the military aide being given to Ukraine and lashes out somehow at its neighbors. Does the rest of the Russian army suck this bad & why is there reason to believe things would go any differently? 3. Russia escalates with nato and demands guarantees that border states will not be allowed to join. Nato won’t do that now, so where do we go from there? I don’t know what will happen, but if I was writing a red storm rising type book, this wouldn’t be a bad scenario for the opening chapters.  Attached FileDoes Russia view the total collapse of their economy & true global isolation as an existential threat? |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 8:05:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you would want an American city wiped off the map to bring about political change? The effects wouldn't be what you're hoping for...not very bright. Clutch the pearls harder, doesn’t change the opinion. Russia wiping DC off the map would be the catalyst to exact change and at least get rid of a large portion of the federal rot and decay afflicting the USA. Horrible to see the collateral, but think of all the lobbyists, pedophiles, lawyers, politicians, bureaucrats, etc gone. Then the physical heads of all the federal bureaucracy itself. Net positive by a long shot lol |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 8:22:52 AM EST
[#46]
Russia will remain an aggressor communist nation despite whatever happens in Ukraine.
Russia's nukes will remain a threat. In the not too distant future after the Ukraine battle is over, various world leaders will be meeting with Russian leaders and shaking their hands, making deals, regardless of Russia winning or losing in Ukraine. The EU/NATO nations will be among those first in line to make energy and other deals. The Russian bear will survive and have a major role in future world events. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 8:40:36 AM EST
[#47]
I hope any nukes that make it off the ground have extremely high altitude detonation just for less fallout.
Only if Russia chooses to launch. Also some detonations in the tube, both land and sea based, and many refused to push the button. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 8:45:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clutch the pearls harder, doesn’t change the opinion. Russia wiping DC off the map would be the catalyst to exact change and at least get rid of a large portion of the federal rot and decay afflicting the USA. Horrible to see the collateral, but think of all the lobbyists, pedophiles, lawyers, politicians, bureaucrats, etc gone. Then the physical heads of all the federal bureaucracy itself. Net positive by a long shot lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you would want an American city wiped off the map to bring about political change? The effects wouldn't be what you're hoping for...not very bright. Clutch the pearls harder, doesn’t change the opinion. Russia wiping DC off the map would be the catalyst to exact change and at least get rid of a large portion of the federal rot and decay afflicting the USA. Horrible to see the collateral, but think of all the lobbyists, pedophiles, lawyers, politicians, bureaucrats, etc gone. Then the physical heads of all the federal bureaucracy itself. Net positive by a long shot lol Does it hurt being this dumb? |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 8:55:35 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Clutch the pearls harder, doesn’t change the opinion. Russia wiping DC off the map would be the catalyst to exact change and at least get rid of a large portion of the federal rot and decay afflicting the USA. Horrible to see the collateral, but think of all the lobbyists, pedophiles, lawyers, politicians, bureaucrats, etc gone. Then the physical heads of all the federal bureaucracy itself. Net positive by a long shot lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you would want an American city wiped off the map to bring about political change? The effects wouldn't be what you're hoping for...not very bright. Clutch the pearls harder, doesn’t change the opinion. Russia wiping DC off the map would be the catalyst to exact change and at least get rid of a large portion of the federal rot and decay afflicting the USA. Horrible to see the collateral, but think of all the lobbyists, pedophiles, lawyers, politicians, bureaucrats, etc gone. Then the physical heads of all the federal bureaucracy itself. Net positive by a long shot lol You would end up under martial law that would never end. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 8:56:54 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: First off, I’m shocked by the decay of the Russian military; at first I thought they sent in the C team, but now it just looks like they’re that bad. Are all their conventional forces that bad? This sure has the appearances of a systematic problem. Three scenarios to ponder: 1. Russia leaves Ukraine with its tail between its legs, Russia is exposed & Putin is shown as impotent. Russia ceases to be Russia on the world stage. 2. Russia gets pissed at all the military aide being given to Ukraine and lashes out somehow at its neighbors. Does the rest of the Russian army suck this bad & why is there reason to believe things would go any differently? 3. Russia escalates with nato and demands guarantees that border states will not be allowed to join. Nato won’t do that now, so where do we go from there? I don’t know what will happen, but if I was writing a red storm rising type book, this wouldn’t be a bad scenario for the opening chapters. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/44277/3C900AD7-2AC9-47FA-B41A-D304759F1CFA_jpe-2296050.JPG Does Russia view the total collapse of their economy & true global isolation as an existential threat? Personally, I think the "free world" needs a strong Russia (but under new leadership) to thwart the globalists. Russia is the globalist 2nd biggest prize after the USA. And maybe more importantly, the world needs Russia as a bulwark against China. China is the biggest threat to a free world. China and the globalist West see Russia like Hitler and Stalin saw Poland in '40. |
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