I haven't followed all of this but I'm curious if you are working out a lot? If so, you are fitting a pattern I've noticed and the numbing isn't anything to be too alarmed about. Check the BP, that's what would go awry if you are in trouble.

TRT can have a tendency to increase red blood cells, which is why many guys give blood regularly when on TRT. There is a an apheresis process that works even better if you are one of the unlucky that can't maintain iron levels with the donation frequency necessary. On paper it wouldn't sound like the answer but it really does work great.

This!!!!!

It's been written here many times to also ask your lady who draws blood for the PrivateMD tests.


All this said, and reading comp being what it is...  


I expect fewer than a handful of folks will benefit from this...

And next week the rest will be asking the same tired questions.

I think I've read the same studies. I'm not an advocate of any 25yo healthy level guy trying to trick a doc into TRT. I don't think there is anything most young healthy guys can do that would wreck their t levels. I just know that working a double and getting bloods late in the day after has worked for quite a few guys I know who were middle aged and right on the edge of what their crusty old PC would consider normal. I'm talking about a 45yo guy who is getting 300 and the damn doc says, "hey that's normal range".

1500 is freakishly high. I know. I have been accused of abusing AAS most of my adult life and getting TRT was that much more difficult due to my appearance. Just for the record, never touched, nor thought about touching AAS ever until I really had to. Not that I have any moral objection to it, but needles are just my weakness. I fucking hate them. I put off TRT for more than 5 years because I'm a fucking wuss about that, and the fact that now all the people accusing me of juicing can say "haha fucker, look you are juicing you asshole'. Worth it though not to go through the low spots where I couldn't think straight and wanted to murder anything that moved or made noise.

Going back to the GP doc was a bust. I asked my regular pharm who wrote scrips for the above. The gal said she was new and that any doc could prescribe it. There are only three other pharmacies in town. I'll try them tomorrow.

You forget the mental fog we were all in before we got TRT?



 

"hello CVS this is John so & so, regional manager for sales at CVS corp , be a dear and punch up a list of local prescribers of Testosterone , HCG & Arimidex"





You'd be shocked at how fast they jump to help you.


It is not against the law to be someone you are not if you are not doing anything illegal,


(disclaimer, don't ever say you are an LEO , unless of course if you are, there are a few other people I wouldn't imitate)




 
 

So I am on my third set of testopel. I can't find my original post... but I have had the lowT for several years now and have done the monthly injections at the doctor's office, the weekly injections at home, the daily gel, and now because of insurance issues I am visiting the urologist every 3 months.

First visit went fine, ass was sore for a few days but no biggies. Labs 3 months later showed that I was low normal and he increased the dosage from 10 pellets to 15. Labs last week showed high normal 795. He says that he will continue with the 15 pellets unless the labs come back way off from where I am now.

I like this way better than the other options I have dealt with and feel I am getting better consistent results. I haven't had any issues with the pellets backing out or anything like that.

That might work, but I can only look like a construction worker. I really don't have another look. I do a pretty good angry construction worker. Will that work?

I went back to LowTStL today to get my results.

My free test was 266.

My estrogen (or estradiol) was 38.

So they have me one teen-y tiny anastrozole (sp?) pill.  Then the test cyp shot (0.7ml).  And then a shot of HCG.

I go back in next Monday for another shot.

I am so happy I went to these folks.  

I am due for labs in 5 weeks.  The plan is to have me coming back every week for 90 days .  Then after that they will be shipping the stuff to my house and I'll be back to injecting myself.  

It is 52 miles one way to get there.  I have other stops to make while I am there: Hi-Tech ammo, Graf's Reloading, and Cabela's.  This could get expensive.  

Oh, yeah, they are going to charge me $180 a month, for now.

They will get you where you need to be. It may take some time if you are unlucky like me and need a very high dose just to get to normal. Everytime I upped mine, it was another 5 weeks then BW. Now it's just every 3 months and it's shipped to the door. Once they watched me for a while they were very cool about letting me up way beyond 200/week but that took a while.

My biggest beef with them is they wanted me to take 1mg adex every week which destroys my E2. Non issue once you are on your own though. I highly recomend finding some research chem place and getting a liquid suspension when you get to that point...if that's an issue for you.

PHONE




 
 

This was a 15 minute job.

googled compounding pharmacy Denver.
Stated at the top and called the first 4.
Asked for a list of doctors that submit test prescriptions.
2 places faxed me a list one place emailed a list and the 4th told me the names and numbers of the top 4.
This is information they are happy to give out. It is not a secret.

EXCELLENT!!!


What I did a couple years ago...

"Go ask the lady who draws blood for PrivateMDLabs, etc"

It was suggested here to do it and I did...





Worked...

I did the exact same thing for my wife, who's now on TRT as well.  

Low dose gel or shots? She always jumping your bones?

 

Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina.

Not in GD they don't.

Part of the guys in GD act like they have a vagina

 

Tranny...

How did I miss those responses last night?

She's on low dose gel.  The first month or so it was OK but not great so her doc doubled the dose.  Holy shit it was a mixed bag she was horny mean and growing way too much hair.  So she went back to the original dose for a few weeks.  The mental fog and low energy returned.  

At that point I told her to go to 150% of the original dose and she seems to have found her middle ground.  No hair and horny as hell  She literally walked out of the bedroom at 11 PM last night jumped in my lap and said I'm horny.  That never used to happen, she was usually in asleep by 10:30 and never horny at night.  

One of the problems none of the docs gave a shit about until this doc was her non existent E2.  It was unmeasurable and her family has a history of osteoporosis.  Things are much better now but still not quite right.    Her thyroid may be off because she's still tired a good bit and has trouble losing weight.  With a family history of low thyroid, I think she still needs to get that fixed.

I'm having a problem convincing my wife to go get checked. She's 8 weeks out from dropping the other crotch fruit and I want to wait until Christmas but she sounds like she's not very interested. I'm good with my insulin needles but I don't think I can be that sneaky....

Took my wife finding a new doctor to even know anything was actually wrong with her.  Her estrogen and testosterone levels were so low the test the doctor had ordered didn't even pick them up.  Was causing lots of other issues as well.  Between her experiences and my own I encourage everyone to go get checked out by a competent doctor.  Neither of us are where we need to be but we are both a lot closer than we used to be.



 

After pregnancy most docs are going to want her to wait a long time before checking hormones.  My wife had to wait more than 9 months for elective surgery.  

Snip

I've got a plastic surgeon already on standby by. He said he can make her belly hard enough to bounce a quarter off of it. I told him he's going to need to start at the ankles and go all the way up to the neck.

9 months can't get her soon enough....

Tummy tucks are a bitch, but might as well sign her up for the mommy make over.  Boobs butt and stomach all at once.  

I hope they can do that. Fucking anesthesia is expensive.

It's remarkably cheap when you're paying cash.  The tummy tuck was only about $6500 with some lipo.  Boobs would probably add another $3k.  The wife has had them done twice....I popped the first set

In the Dallas area? I'm closest to Tyler which the price goes up a little since it's very little competition.

Working in a strip club while going to school and then a later owning one in jersey I became almost some sort of expert on boob jobs, when a girl got them done they couldn't wait to show them off, "look at these" -- "touch them , don't they feel real?"





Anyway my thoughts on boob jobs is you really do get what you pay for.


The girls who saved up and went to a high end doc in NYC or who flew out to LA to use a well known Doc there had near perfect boob jobs.


I have seen some that looked pretty good until the bikini top came off and my God they were butchered.
ETA:

Before anyway calls BS on my ownership of a strip club and causes a ruckus in here I'd remind when I was called a liar in GD after that MrClean4hire debacle where he claimed he owned 2 clubs and was a big shot wealthy guy.

I sent 2 different staff members absolute proof of what I said on my Club.

They even went into the thread and stated what I claimed was true on owning a strip club in jersey.

I don't know why people make wild claims on the net, I wish I never bought that club, it cost me 400K when it went under and almost my marriage.    





 

Yes Dallas, if you go west to Ft Worth the price drops even more.  Oddly too much competition in Ft Worth and not enough takers.  I can PM recommendations for 2 different Plastic docs if you need them.  



I worked as bouncer in one in college.  You can print money with them in certain areas but everybody hates you from the neighbors to the local government.  I thought about investing in one in DFW and glad I didn't my prospective partner went under shortly after I waived off.   The books according to my accountant didn't smell right.  The cash flow was too consistent was the exact quote, I think.

I had 6000 sq ft to work with, we had a 500 sq ft game room too, I should have kept it a neighborhood bar.

The 2 pool tables alone brought in $800 a week.

We had jello wrestling once , it was a big night but a real mess.

My wife walked into the dressing room and caught a dancer shooting heroin , my wife dragged her out by her hair and threw her out the front door bag & baggage (she had a G string on and a small bikini top) <---dancer not wife LOL)



When I had this place we had to pay the dancers $20 to $25 a set (set =  40 minutes out of every hour)

Now the high end clubs , the dancers pay the house for the right to work there.    



 

Tities and ass upgrade or anvis 6? Fuck I need more moneys!

Does anyone have a handy concise guide on HCG effects, dosage, bring back atrophy testes ?

My buddy is on TRT too and his Doc finally gave him a script after 2 years for HCG

She wrote 5000 IU 10 ml

I told him how much, she is new to TRT and is an Endo

She told him his balls shrank a lot and she said they will not produce again



I told him I'd get the info and that I believed she was wrong

The Endo I just saw said that HCG would bring fertility back. Not sure on T.

I think this one on HCG is good?



http://www.defymedical.com/resources/health-articles/67-how-to-reverse-the-main-side-effect-of-testosterone-therapy

I already know , i was just looking for something already done on a web page instead of me typing for an hour



 

My restart was 100mg clomid ED and and I believe 2500iu hcg eod. Don't quote me on the exact hcg dosage but I was killing a vial in 2 injections if I recall.

IM sent.

I just found out that my insurance company has dropped their coverage of Androgel but they do cover Axiron.  Does anyone have experience with Axiron?

Lowering Hematocrit by eating Diatomaceous Earth



http://diatomaceous.net/category/earthworkshealth/

Kind of makes sense.  I use DE for my pool filter and it's basically ground up fossils, so as long as it was purified/sterilized it might work.  The question is how much and how often.  If it actually works can you make yourself anemic?

Kills all the gut worms too. Don't freak out with you poop out a 12ft long spaghetti noodle.

Oh Mary Sunshine showed up



 

Right now I could use a tapeworm.  That might help me get this last 8-10 pounds off

How does chelating metals from your body take away red blood cells?

I'll tell my story.  I had low T for 3 years that i knew about.  I tried everything.  I was overweight at 5'10" 230 lbs, went on a paleo type diet.  I lost 40 lbs on it but basically plateau'd.  My muscle mass was suffering, my T wasn't going up.  I was working out 3 to 4 times a week and wasn't really making gains or anything and if i took a couple weeks off i basically had to start over.  T tested at about 320 during this time and that was up from 180 a year earlier.  A coworker told me that he was on TRT.  Told me i should go get checked but insurance wouldn't cover any of it.

So i went and got checked out, i qualified to go on TRT.  Was kind of a big decision for me because i knew there was no going back.  I had a sit down with the wife about it basically explaining that this is going to take effort from both of us because my sex drive is going to go through the roof.  She said she understood.  Later on we figured out she didn't.  Anyways, i went on TRT, i do HCG monday and friday, and testosterone on wednesday, anastrozol on thursday.  I've honestly never felt better my entire life, as i've lived with an undescended testicle my entire life.  Motivation comes easy, my muscle mass sticks around and i don't even lift anymore.  I heal quick, recover quick, and my sex drive is absolutely insane, like i'm 18 again.  I mentioned before my wife didn't understand despite thinking she did.  It's literally every day and it took a long time to get her to understand that.  That was the most stressful part of this entire thing is getting her to the point she would put out that often.  We would barely have sex once a week sometimes before TRT, sometimes once every couple weeks.  I almost went off of TRT 6 months into it because i was so tired of having to beg for sex just to get it 4 times a week.  So i said hey look, i'm just going to quit doing TRT.  You'll have a fat, lazy husband again that you'll eventually cheat on, and he'll probably die at 55, but at least you won't have to put out very often.  Of course that started a big argument about how much is enough and i said if we do it 3 days in a row i can give you a day off.  She came around, and i'm a happy happy dude.  I maintain about 900-1000 T and feel good at that.

I'm fucking crashed out and feel like total shit. Next Friday I finally get to see the doctor again. Right now I feel like FML.

Iron