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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:15:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Wow the restaurants that serve alcohol is a big kick in the pants. Thanks most fucking places
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:19:50 PM EDT
[#2]
Parks is a big loss. I assume it includes state parks and wilderness parks. Maybe even Yosemite.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:23:13 PM EDT
[#3]
How fucken arbitrary.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:26:40 PM EDT
[#4]
Here is the court docket for the case Reno May v. Robert Bonta (8:23-cv-01696)
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:27:17 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow the restaurants that serve alcohol is a big kick in the pants. Thanks most fucking places What really sucks is that the ban also includes parking lots where there is a restaurant that serves alcohol. That covers a lot of general shopping areas... |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:28:32 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What really sucks is that the ban also includes parking lots where there is a restaurant that serves alcohol. That covers a lot of general shopping areas... This. The parking lots restriction covers 90% of any place that anyone will go. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:29:13 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Parks is a big loss. I assume it includes state parks and wilderness parks. Maybe even Yosemite. ALL parks. And playgrounds, athletic facilities, etc. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:36:42 PM EDT
[#8]
Sigh
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:43:58 PM EDT
[#9]
No surprise at all. The leftists know what they're doing and have effectively killed legal CCW in the state. It'll be a few more years before another judgement likely striking down the draconian restrictions, then they'll come up with a new slightly different plan and we'll be chasing our tail. This is their MO, they do this with other gun laws all the time and even if the courts completely smack them down who will enforce the court order? The LE that are the strong-arm of the left?
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:46:36 PM EDT
[#10]
Can SCOTUS hold the district court in contempt?
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:46:52 PM EDT
[#11]
F*** all of that. I'll keep CCing wherever and whenever I feel a need to do so, just as I always have even before I had a permit.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:47:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Only seeing the note above, it's hard to tell what details are actually impacted. The "parking lots" is particularly vague. My doctor's office is in a mini-mall as are some eating places. Visiting the doctor and walk through the parking lot? OK for both? but I can't walk by the restaurant through the parking lot? How or can I lock it in my car? In a locked container? Unloaded in a locked container? But now it may or may not be transported from legal place to legal place? If park and State Park are identified specifically and National Park is not?
I've got my new and improve"16 hours training" in two weeks. Oh yeah. This will likely have things as muddied up as ever. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:48:39 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can SCOTUS hold the district court in contempt? The appellate process doesn't work that way. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:00:50 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can SCOTUS hold the district court in contempt? That's not how it works. SCOTUS has no enforcement arm. Ultimately, whether or not their decisions carry any weight is a matter of public opinion and political will. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:24:43 PM EDT
[#15]
Fuck ‘em.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:28:11 PM EDT
[#16]
For the panel we drew, it was actually pretty good.
Still the actual ruling itself was poorly done, because it relied on shit SCOTUS did not say and a few laws that dont exist. lol |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:41:36 PM EDT
[#17]
Typical lefty judges, just making up shit and hoping it sticks to the wall
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:45:05 PM EDT
[#18]
Guess we know what to look forward to once turd ferguson becomes gov here
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:45:30 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: F*** all of that. I'll keep CCing wherever and whenever I feel a need to do so, just as I always have even before I had a permit. Exactly this. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:13:30 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted: How fucken arbitrary. Quoted: No surprise at all. The leftists know what they're doing and have effectively killed legal CCW in the state. It'll be a few more years before another judgement likely striking down the draconian restrictions, then they'll come up with a new slightly different plan and we'll be chasing our tail. This is their MO, they do this with other gun laws all the time and even if the courts completely smack them down who will enforce the court order? The LE that are the strong-arm of the left? Quoted: F*** all of that. I'll keep CCing wherever and whenever I feel a need to do so, just as I always have even before I had a permit. In bold - 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:16:58 PM EDT
[#21]
At some point, people simply revoke consent.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:14:08 PM EDT
[#22]
Every. Single. Day. I'm reminded of why I fled that f...ing state.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:20:02 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ALL parks. And playgrounds, athletic facilities, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Parks is a big loss. I assume it includes state parks and wilderness parks. Maybe even Yosemite. ALL parks. And playgrounds, athletic facilities, etc. I believe that there is also a separate California state regulation (previously implemented) that prohibited carry in California state parks. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:29:13 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: F*** all of that. I'll keep CCing wherever and whenever I feel a need to do so, just as I always have even before I had a permit. This is the way. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:39:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How fucken arbitrary. And capricious 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:41:00 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow the restaurants that serve alcohol is a big kick in the pants. Thanks most fucking places Even MD lost on restaurants that serve alcohol at the district court.  Kharn |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:45:36 PM EDT
[#27]
Government is now all powerful and only needs to reflect on itself to govern. The people no longer matter.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:46:05 PM EDT
[#28]
So assuming the plaintiffs try for en banc and are denied, this case would be up cert with the Supreme Court for next term, October 25-June 26, with a decision by June 2026 if they decide to grant cert.
Kharn |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:55:30 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow the restaurants that serve alcohol is a big kick in the pants. Thanks most fucking places Virginia was like that for the longest time. It think it finally got fixed in 2010. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:56:27 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What really sucks is that the ban also includes parking lots where there is a restaurant that serves alcohol. That covers a lot of general shopping areas... That means you cannot CC as you drive to the restaurant, unless you park elsewhere. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:04:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:41:10 PM EDT
[#32]
Never lost anything in California....never will
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:56:38 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not how it works. SCOTUS has no enforcement arm. Ultimately, whether or not their decisions carry any weight is a matter of public opinion and political will. That’s not strictly speaking true. They can hold people in co tempt and could order them jailed, and have. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:00:34 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: F*** all of that. I'll keep CCing wherever and whenever I feel a need to do so, just as I always have even before I had a permit. This is the way. duh. concealed means concealed.  
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:00:36 PM EDT
[#35]
Kamala was AG of California. Let that sink in for a minute. Y'all better hope she doesn't get in the Whitehouse. You know she has a place for Newsome somewhere at the table.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:01:15 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What really sucks is that the ban also includes parking lots where there is a restaurant that serves alcohol. That covers a lot of general shopping areas... |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:08:04 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Every. Single. Day. I'm reminded of why I fled that f...ing state. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:55:07 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s not strictly speaking true. They can hold people in co tempt and could order them jailed, and have. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's not how it works. SCOTUS has no enforcement arm. Ultimately, whether or not their decisions carry any weight is a matter of public opinion and political will. That’s not strictly speaking true. They can hold people in co tempt and could order them jailed, and have. Oh sure. Once. In the history of the US. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 6:08:41 PM EDT
[#39]
Now if only people would stay and fight instead of moving out to somewhere else.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 8:29:24 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now if only people would stay and fight instead of moving out to somewhere else. It is overwhelmingly a leftist state. Numbers are a hard thing to beat. |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 12:17:58 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is overwhelmingly a leftist state. Numbers are a hard thing to beat. Perhaps some right wing conservatives should move there. Shift it back to a conservative location instead of blaming transplants for creating problems their state has. |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 12:39:08 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Perhaps some right wing conservatives should move there. Shift it back to a conservative location instead of blaming transplants for creating problems their state has. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It is overwhelmingly a leftist state. Numbers are a hard thing to beat. Perhaps some right wing conservatives should move there. Shift it back to a conservative location instead of blaming transplants for creating problems their state has. You're volunteering? |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 12:43:55 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Perhaps some right wing conservatives should move there. Shift it back to a conservative location instead of blaming transplants for creating problems their state has. I get where you’re going but that’s worse than kicking a hornets nest while naked. You’ll be taxed and regulated to the point you’ll either move back out or become homeless. |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 12:54:31 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Perhaps some right wing conservatives should move there. Shift it back to a conservative location instead of blaming transplants for creating problems their state has. California is the most populous state. There aren't enough conservatives in the US to flip it. Unfortunately the reverse isn't teue: californians moving to a spardely populated state can flip it easily. |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 1:44:14 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: duh. concealed means concealed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: F*** all of that. I'll keep CCing wherever and whenever I feel a need to do so, just as I always have even before I had a permit. This is the way. duh. concealed means concealed. That's not the solution and puts you at risk. Eventually we'll be to the point where places are running detectors or similar and then they'll be charging us with felonies. |
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