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Posted: 9/14/2024 5:59:22 AM EST
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If we all gained 100 lbs we'd all be a lot closer together...
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Posted: 9/14/2024 6:00:06 AM EST
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I see this every time a cruise ship is in port and the taxis drop the passengers off at the local beaches or other points of interest.
80% or more are overweight, with at least 50% being morbidly obese. It's definitely getting worse. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 6:22:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your brain requires carbs. Every sprinter uses high carb diets. Zero carb is the big trendy gay thing. Is your body not capable of gluconeogenesis? Mine certainly doesn it. I eat some blackberries, and veggies, my net carbs tend to be well below 20g. I work out, build muscle, and use my brain all with little to no carbs. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 7:22:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm looking at my phone to read this...while sitting on my exercise bike...my mind is literally going to explode. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 30 years ago, no cell phones. People sit on their ass looking at the phone; they can't drive without looking at the damn phone. Fucking video themselves while driving rather than fucking drive. Fat ass narcissist. I'm looking at my phone to read this...while sitting on my exercise bike...my mind is literally going to explode.  You are not endangering others or impeding their travel. If someone is driving like shit, most of the time they are looking at their phone, IME. I ain't driving while I'm typing this reply. 
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Posted: 9/14/2024 7:37:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your brain requires carbs. Every sprinter uses high carb diets. Zero carb is the big trendy gay thing. I should have died years ago, then. Only carbs I get are if I can lay hands on raw milk, I can't always get it consistently. The .gov is more interested in controlling raw milk than they are fentanyl; and there's a reason for that, too. Raw milk and raw eggs mixed in a blender, a great breakfast. Dinner is always steak and eggs, everything locally sourced; that's real food. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 7:53:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m in Sydney right now on a trip surrounded by beautiful women…..yes Americans are fat. Cheers. According to the experts in this thread, all you have to do to stay a healthy weight in America is limit yourself to one carb-free meal a day and never deviate from a strict and intense workout regimen. When people point out that those things seem to be a bit extreme and difficult to maintain, the "healthy" people call them lazy. Are the general populations in Australia and Europe also only eating one carb-free meal a day and feverishly working out? Or is there something else that's different? |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:04:15 AM EST
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In the other thread, obesity and sedentary lifestyles are the fault of the liberals and not the result of bad dietary and habitual choices.
Quoted: I’m in Sydney right now on a trip surrounded by beautiful women…..yes Americans are fat. Cheers. Mother's side of the family is Aussie. Obesity in Australia is actually a big problem. It's the 3rd highest obesity level in the English speaking world. You go up the coast to Brisbane or Gold Coast and it's something like 60% overweight/obese. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:15:01 AM EST
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My avatar checks out
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:25:57 AM EST
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I'm drinking coffee and cooking bacon, fuck the CDC.
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:34:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even the meh chicks in the 1990s weren’t fat https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2739-3321747.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2737-3321748.jpg To be fair I was school shopping for my kids in the local college town the weekend before the college kids moved in. All the stores were full of college girls and they were barely wearing anything. It was hard walking around Target with a raging boner. I didn't see any fatties in that age group anyway. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:45:05 AM EST
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I have an awesome soda fort and drink a beer or 2 daily.
I'm down 10 lbs. since November, but was never fat. Cardio and light to moderate weight lifting with some ab exercises.  |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:52:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: According to the experts in this thread, all you have to do to stay a healthy weight in America is limit yourself to one carb-free meal a day and never deviate from a strict and intense workout regimen. When people point out that those things seem to be a bit extreme and difficult to maintain, the "healthy" people call them lazy. Are the general populations in Australia and Europe also only eating one carb-free meal a day and feverishly working out? Or is there something else that's different? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m in Sydney right now on a trip surrounded by beautiful women…..yes Americans are fat. Cheers. According to the experts in this thread, all you have to do to stay a healthy weight in America is limit yourself to one carb-free meal a day and never deviate from a strict and intense workout regimen. When people point out that those things seem to be a bit extreme and difficult to maintain, the "healthy" people call them lazy. Are the general populations in Australia and Europe also only eating one carb-free meal a day and feverishly working out? Or is there something else that's different? 1 carb free meal a day would do great things for a lot of people in this country. I don’t count carbs, I count sugar. I don’t go over 10g a day. Because of that I don’t eat much processed food. At the end of the day on a 2,700 calorie diet I have to make en effort to eat. The result is a higher fat and protein diet. My doctor says it’s simple… if you eat mostly carbs your body will be built by carbs, if you eat mostly protein your body will be built by protein. Sugar and bread are killing America. America needs to stop its obsession with food. The hard truth of the matter is that if you are the size of 3 people, you are eating enough to feed 3 people. Justify that shit with Diet Coke and salad all you want but you are eating 3x what you should. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:57:50 AM EST
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:58:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm drinking coffee and cooking bacon, fuck the CDC. 
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:58:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is your body not capable of gluconeogenesis? Mine certainly doesn it. I eat some blackberries, and veggies, my net carbs tend to be well below 20g. I work out, build muscle, and use my brain all with little to no carbs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your brain requires carbs. Every sprinter uses high carb diets. Zero carb is the big trendy gay thing. Is your body not capable of gluconeogenesis? Mine certainly doesn it. I eat some blackberries, and veggies, my net carbs tend to be well below 20g. I work out, build muscle, and use my brain all with little to no carbs. This is correct . The liver can manufacture all the glucose the brain/body needs without the intake of a single carb . The brain can also run on ketones and lactate . |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:58:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair I was school shopping for my kids in the local college town the weekend before the college kids moved in. All the stores were full of college girls and they were barely wearing anything. It was hard walking around Target with a raging boner. I didn't see any fatties in that age group anyway.
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:00:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryThat's healthy and your the latest example of an 'ist', 'ism', 'gist', 'st' if you say anything except beautiful. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:02:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: According to the experts in this thread, all you have to do to stay a healthy weight in America is limit yourself to one carb-free meal a day and never deviate from a strict and intense workout regimen. When people point out that those things seem to be a bit extreme and difficult to maintain, the "healthy" people call them lazy. Are the general populations in Australia and Europe also only eating one carb-free meal a day and feverishly working out? Or is there something else that's different? |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:05:22 AM EST
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Big Pharm , Big Food , Big Healthcare ; the Healthcare treadmill . From cradle to grave .
 Calley Means: Exposing the Secrets of the Food and Healthcare Industry | The Ultimate Human | Ep. 95 |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:05:00 AM EST
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Most of it has to do with sedentary lifestyles and overeating. There's no "big pharm/gov" conspiracy...
Look at the Amish and what they eat on a daily basis - literally pies, cakes, strudels, bacon, eggs, sausage, potatoes, breads, butter, etc. If they were eating that shit and sitting in front of a computer all day long, they'd all be fat too. But they're out busting their asses burning a lot of calories in the process. The average Amish person (who is eating shoe fly pies, fatty sausage, butter, and loaves of bread) is taking around 18,000 steps daily. And that's steps alone - they're burning even more calories lifting and pulling things. Your average American (who sits at work all day) is doing around 3,000 steps daily - that's it. People need to get off their asses and start walking - you'd be amazed how many pounds you can shed without even changing your diet and just counting your steps. That alone makes a huge difference. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:17:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most of it has to do with sedentary lifestyles and overeating. There's no "big pharm/gov" conspiracy... Look at the Amish and what they eat on a daily basis - literally pies, cakes, strudels, bacon, eggs, sausage, potatoes, breads, butter, etc. If they were eating that shit and sitting in front of a computer all day long, they'd all be fat too. But they're out busting their asses burning a lot of calories in the process. The average Amish person (who is eating shoe fly pies, fatty sausage, butter, and loaves of bread) is taking around 18,000 steps daily. And that's steps alone - they're burning even more calories lifting and pulling things. Your average American (who sits at work all day) is doing around 3,000 steps daily - that's it. People need to get off their asses and start walking - you'd be amazed how many pounds you can shed without even changing your diet and just counting your steps. That alone makes a huge difference. The food manufacturers are adding chemicals that block the body's satiety response...They don't get a pass on this. So as you said the Amish are eating things that we are told are bad for us, but the difference is I assume that's all home made and therefore it's what they're not ingesting that is interesting to this conversation. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:23:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your brain requires carbs. Every sprinter uses high carb diets. Zero carb is the big trendy gay thing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Take one look at what is actually being put in what they call food, and it all makes sense. They need everyone fat, sick, and stupid. If people would quit eating that chemical shitstorm garbage and started eating actual food the obesity rates would fall. <---- Zero carb carnivore forever Your brain requires carbs. Every sprinter uses high carb diets. Zero carb is the big trendy gay thing. The miniscule amount of carbs required by your brain is made by your liver. Carbs are not essential, but protein and fat most definitely are. Carbs taste really good and our bodies don't have a natural mechanism to stop eating them. Lots of Americans are carb addicts myself included. Would you tell an alcohol to have just one beer? Because it's the same part of the brain regardless addiction type. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:26:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most of it has to do with sedentary lifestyles and overeating. There's no "big pharm/gov" conspiracy... Look at the Amish and what they eat on a daily basis - literally pies, cakes, strudels, bacon, eggs, sausage, potatoes, breads, butter, etc. If they were eating that shit and sitting in front of a computer all day long, they'd all be fat too. But they're out busting their asses burning a lot of calories in the process. The average Amish person (who is eating shoe fly pies, fatty sausage, butter, and loaves of bread) is taking around 18,000 steps daily. And that's steps alone - they're burning even more calories lifting and pulling things. Your average American (who sits at work all day) is doing around 3,000 steps daily - that's it. People need to get off their asses and start walking - you'd be amazed how many pounds you can shed without even changing your diet and just counting your steps. That alone makes a huge difference. As an extension of your point.. people who live in the city also walk a lot more for their daily commutes vs suburban/exurban so they also have a lower level of obesity. I did read that the Amish do have higher levels of blood pressure and heart disease though, likely do their diet of pancakes, sausages, eggs, etc. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:45:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your brain requires carbs. Every sprinter uses high carb diets. Zero carb is the big trendy gay thing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Take one look at what is actually being put in what they call food, and it all makes sense. They need everyone fat, sick, and stupid. If people would quit eating that chemical shitstorm garbage and started eating actual food the obesity rates would fall. <---- Zero carb carnivore forever Your brain requires carbs. Every sprinter uses high carb diets. Zero carb is the big trendy gay thing. Found the guy who: 1) Doesn't know that the brain runs fine, even preferentially, on ketones. 2) Doesn't know about gluconeogenesis (a demand-based system in which the body literally turns proteins into glucose to supply the few cell types that require glucose. Of which the brain isn't one). |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:47:16 AM EST
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:52:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As an extension of your point.. people who live in the city also walk a lot more for their daily commutes vs suburban/exurban so they also have a lower level of obesity. I did read that the Amish do have higher levels of blood pressure and heart disease though, likely do their diet of pancakes, sausages, eggs, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Most of it has to do with sedentary lifestyles and overeating. There's no "big pharm/gov" conspiracy... Look at the Amish and what they eat on a daily basis - literally pies, cakes, strudels, bacon, eggs, sausage, potatoes, breads, butter, etc. If they were eating that shit and sitting in front of a computer all day long, they'd all be fat too. But they're out busting their asses burning a lot of calories in the process. The average Amish person (who is eating shoe fly pies, fatty sausage, butter, and loaves of bread) is taking around 18,000 steps daily. And that's steps alone - they're burning even more calories lifting and pulling things. Your average American (who sits at work all day) is doing around 3,000 steps daily - that's it. People need to get off their asses and start walking - you'd be amazed how many pounds you can shed without even changing your diet and just counting your steps. That alone makes a huge difference. As an extension of your point.. people who live in the city also walk a lot more for their daily commutes vs suburban/exurban so they also have a lower level of obesity. I did read that the Amish do have higher levels of blood pressure and heart disease though, likely do their diet of pancakes, sausages, eggs, etc. That is true about blood pressure and heart disease with the Amish. Just because you're skinny doesn't mean you're heart healthy. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:09:33 AM EST
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Walking three to four miles a day I've dropped from 210 (mil retirement) to 196 about 12 years later at 6'1.5".
That puts me just out of the "recommended healthy" BMI range for a 63 YO, which is 18.5 to 24.9. The weird part is I feel "skinny" walking around in town. Almost everyone I see at roughly my height looks 30 pounds heavier. Food's unholy expensive, I don't understand how people afford that many calories on a daily basis. I did go on the cancer diet a couple of years ago and dropped to 185. Weight took two years to stabilize, and that's on an ongoing chemo maintenance regime. Not recommended, incidentally. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:25:10 AM EST
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I'm trying to not be part of that. I'm a fat body for sure. I dropped little over 30lbs in 3 months. Eating much better, & walking 3 miles 4 days/week.
It's slow though. I was loosing a lot, then tapered off. Some weeks I lose 2, some 3, some gain 2. My numbers are all good though. BP is high, on a pill for that. Even when I do drop much more weight, my BMI will still say obese. I'm just not built to weigh 190lbs. And the comment about what's in food is spot on. I'm looking at labels all over now. The amount of fat sodium & sugar in things is amazing. I'm picking on chick-fil-a now....I looked them up. A normal chicken sandwich no fries or drink has over 1100mg of sodium! Easy 2000 when you add the fries & drink. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:41:47 AM EST
[#29]
Damn, I'm obese. Scale is low 4 lbs so I would probably be over 30 BMI and in the morbidly obese category.
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:45:47 AM EST
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One of the 7 deadly; gluttony. It doesn't take much to avoid being obese. I'm a 60-year-old female, 5'3", 107lbs, BMI of 19. I'm not on a diet, but I don't overindulge at EVERY meal!
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:52:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get out of here with that logic. Fat people are fat because they're weak disgusting pieces of shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Food pyramid is working as designed. Get out of here with that logic. Fat people are fat because they're weak disgusting pieces of shit. It’s way more nuanced than that. But you keep on trying to be edgy. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:58:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1) Doesn't know that the brain runs fine, even preferentially, on ketones. >lowest rate of obesity on the planet >Smartest people on the planet >Live to an average age of 130 despite chain smoking seven stars and shotgunning strong zeros >Two nukes only made them stronger  One day keto cucks will finally wise up and embrace the rice pill. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 12:02:37 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryLOL, displacement is a thing! 
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Posted: 9/14/2024 12:06:47 PM EST
[#34]
Stop eating seed oils as much as possible, I went from well over 200 to 165 (6'1") in 2 and half months by drinking lots of water through the day, two short runs a week and almost no seed oil or soy. I actually saved money by making sandwiches of lettuce, (real) cheese, and lunchmeat for work instead of getting fast food each day, the hardest part was finding bread without seed oil and soy, but I feel so much better. Throw in a set or two of pushups each morning and you'll be better off than 99% of America. I don't have to worry about what I eat when I go out or what I drink socially (although I try to avoid beer).
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Posted: 9/14/2024 12:11:07 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: >Diet is 90% carbs >lowest rate of obesity on the planet >Smartest people on the planet >Live to an average age of 130 despite chain smoking seven stars and shotgunning strong zeros >Two nukes only made them stronger https://i.imgur.com/Nda9Qlk.png One day keto cucks will finally wise up and embrace the rice pill. When we had dinner with our Japanese hosts, I asked their kids about their favorite food at school. One kid said broccoli and the other said carrot. I don't think you'll get the same answers in the US. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 12:20:27 PM EST
[#36]
RFK jr is right
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Posted: 9/14/2024 1:44:11 PM EST
[#37]
It's good business. Pay more for food, pay more for drugs, pay more for medicine, pay more for larger clothes, pay more for an XL extended cab coffin
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Posted: 9/14/2024 1:49:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Found the guy who: 1) Doesn't know that the brain runs fine, even preferentially, on ketones. 2) Doesn't know about gluconeogenesis (a demand-based system in which the body literally turns proteins into glucose to supply the few cell types that require glucose. Of which the brain isn't one). I was going to post this till I saw yours. I try to be as close to zero carb as possible and not because i believe all carbs are bad. However the tasty ones are bad for you (bread, pasta). I don’t like vegetables and don’t feel any healthier when I force them down so I skip them altogether. I try to adhere to carnivore but will eat some dairy on occasion. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 1:55:57 PM EST
[#39]
people who do zero carbs have breath that smells like they've gargled smashed chicken assholes
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Posted: 9/14/2024 2:20:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryShe'll be the new dancing hippo on the next Jardiance commercial. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 2:28:54 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Every fat obese piece of shit I know drinks Diet Coke. I like it when they make excuses about their disabilities which are in fact caused by their diet and lack of movement. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 2:30:41 PM EST
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Quoted: The US is losing its battle against the bulge. New data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reveals that Americans are heavier than ever before. The CDC defines obesity as having a body mass index (BMI) of at least 30, and a shocking 20% of Americans meet that criteria, with the Midwest and the South reporting the highest levels of weight. And the condition is on the rise worldwide, with the WHO reporting that the percentage of adults 18 years of age and older living with obesity more than doubled from 7% to 16% from 1990 to 2022. The CDC said that prior to 2013, no state in the union had an adult obesity prevalence at or above 35%. However, 23 states have hit that dark mark within the last decade. The latest data is from the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, an interview survey conducted by the CDC and state health departments. Four southern states West Virginia, Mississippi, Arkansas and Louisiana had the highest rates, with 40% of citizens considered obese. West Virginia topped the list for tipping the scales with an obesity rate of 41.2%. I was in Wichita this week and ate at a nice restaurant. It stood out that almost everyone at restaurant was fit, not overweight, with the exception of a handful of middle aged men. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 2:46:36 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: >Diet is 90% carbs >lowest rate of obesity on the planet >Smartest people on the planet >Live to an average age of 130 despite chain smoking seven stars and shotgunning strong zeros >Two nukes only made them stronger https://i.imgur.com/Nda9Qlk.png One day keto cucks will finally wise up and embrace the rice pill. I am also not of Japanese descent. For instance have a dramatically higher rate of lactose intolerance, compared to white people. We’re not all equal. There are genetic expressions for ethic groups because of where we came from. That is why there is a variation for things like melanin, different digestive enzymes, and so forth. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 2:48:35 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Big Pharm , Big Food , Big Healthcare ; the Healthcare treadmill . From cradle to grave .  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o_aNBorQFYI was just listening to this on Thursday or Friday in the car. I loved the history lesson on Phillip Morris buying a food company the shifting its tobacco scientists over to food science. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 2:51:06 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: >Diet is 90% carbs >lowest rate of obesity on the planet >Smartest people on the planet >Live to an average age of 130 despite chain smoking seven stars and shotgunning strong zeros >Two nukes only made them stronger https://i.imgur.com/Nda9Qlk.png One day keto cucks will finally wise up and embrace the rice pill. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 2:54:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am also not of Japanese descent. For instance have a dramatically higher rate of lactose intolerance, compared to white people. We're not all equal. There are genetic expressions for ethic groups because of where we came from. That is why there is a variation for things like melanin, different digestive enzymes, and so forth. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 2:55:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm drinking coffee and cooking bacon, fuck the CDC. Bro, you're good as long as your running between the stove and coffee maker. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 2:57:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Found the guy who: 1) Doesn't know that the brain runs fine, even preferentially, on ketones. 2) Doesn't know about gluconeogenesis (a demand-based system in which the body literally turns proteins into glucose to supply the few cell types that require glucose. Of which the brain isn't one). Preferentially on ketones? Bullshit. You have a peer-reviewed source for that claim? |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 3:08:38 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was just listening to this on Thursday or Friday in the car. I loved the history lesson on Phillip Morris buying a food company the shifting its tobacco scientists over to food science. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Big Pharm , Big Food , Big Healthcare ; the Healthcare treadmill . From cradle to grave . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o_aNBorQFYI was just listening to this on Thursday or Friday in the car. I loved the history lesson on Phillip Morris buying a food company the shifting its tobacco scientists over to food science. It is interesting. I think the majority of people are getting stuck in the activation of the polyol pathway from eating HFC year round ...and the nutrition deficiencies of processed foods . Essentially getting ready for winter year round . |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 3:10:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know man, I think that's a stretch. Carbs were a staple of the huwhite man's diet for thousands of years too. If you're doing keto and it's working for you, I'd never actually discourage you to break your diet, unless it causes other health issues, but I just think it's funny when people treat them like poison. Yeah I still eat some, they’re not poison to me, but I certainly limit. There’s a lot different with wheat now than then too, through selective breeding for processing ease and other environmental/selective pressures our grain is different. There’s something about me that just loves having fat, my body is highly efficient at fat storage. I am of polish/russian descent mixed with some italian, High carb diet of equal calorie content just packs weight on me likely due to some kind if genetic expression for insulin response in times if plenty to bulk up before winter. |
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