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Originally Posted By lygxis: I cited how the things are used and how that interacts with human nature. You replied how my post in the thread makes you want to get them, and I pointed out how that is an example of how human nature interacts with that tech around other people (you made my point for me). That's not a moral panic. Also, there *are* things that are in the category moral, which if they are under attack, do require a pretty extreme pushback on (though not outright panic). No, humans are not trustworthy with that kind of recording device. People said this stuff about early camera phones. Early 3D media was supposedly used by Satan for teaching kids to kill eachother. If I wanted to “violate boundaries” as you put it, it wouldn’t be with something that has a front facing indicator light lol Nobody freaked out like this about the metaverse, so the glasses seem like they are onto something. I want to use the Oakley ones to make a surefire suppressor comparison shooting a pile of shitty overgrown zucchini squash we have, going to pick up some now lol |
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Originally Posted By Mojo_Jojo: Anyone here use/have used them? Pros and cons? Just curious  I was at a dinner party and noticed some douche wearing them. I confirmed that they were. I told the hosts that I was leaving and why. I was very happy to see that almost half the people there say they would leave with me. The douche said he would put them away. I left anyway because I said I would not share a table with someone like that. |
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Originally Posted By GrumpyinStL: I was at a dinner party and noticed some douche wearing them. I confirmed that they were. I told the hosts that I was leaving and why. I was very happy to see that almost half the people there say they would leave with me. The douche said he would put them away. I left anyway because I said I would not share a table with someone like that. Username is appropriate. |
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Originally Posted By GrumpyinStL: I was at a dinner party and noticed some douche wearing them. I confirmed that they were. I told the hosts that I was leaving and why. I was very happy to see that almost half the people there say they would leave with me. The douche said he would put them away. I left anyway because I said I would not share a table with someone like that. Stepdaughter and her fiancee have them. I told them if they wore them in my house they'd get slapped clean off their faces. With a handful of hot grease. |
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Originally Posted By Vengeance6661: No but I do wear my insta 360 go ultra a fair bit and have never had an issue. If you don’t want the glasses the go ultra is probably your next best bet. The outrage of people expecting privacy in a public space is humorous. Hmm. Do you happen to work for flock? ------------- It's because the things record, and if you hitch them to your phone, they can even stream live recording out to the internet. The recording and the streaming and human behavior with that are exactly why I said that this is just like the obnoxious media of the 1980s ... though, if you think of it, they're actually worse, because if you don't know what they are, people can just walk up into any situation and treat it like something to be recorded and blasted to everyone everywhere for clicks and views. |
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Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: People said this stuff about early camera phones. Early 3D media was supposedly used by Satan for teaching kids to kill eachother. If I wanted to “violate boundaries” as you put it, it wouldn’t be with something that has a front facing indicator light lol Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By lygxis: I cited how the things are used and how that interacts with human nature. You replied how my post in the thread makes you want to get them, and I pointed out how that is an example of how human nature interacts with that tech around other people (you made my point for me). That's not a moral panic. Also, there *are* things that are in the category moral, which if they are under attack, do require a pretty extreme pushback on (though not outright panic). No, humans are not trustworthy with that kind of recording device. People said this stuff about early camera phones. Early 3D media was supposedly used by Satan for teaching kids to kill eachother. If I wanted to “violate boundaries” as you put it, it wouldn’t be with something that has a front facing indicator light lol That comparison looks exactly like intentional well poisoning, quacks like it, swims like it, and lays eggs like it. But if you want to pursue that route, see what internet connected phones with video cameras in them and always online has done to kid culture, how it's destroyed their ability to find places where they can learn to be themselves and not have to perform for the camera in everyone's pocket, and how they all seem to think on some level like actors putting on a show 24/7. It's so screwed up that the youngest generation is trying to reject it. Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Nobody freaked out like this about the metaverse, so the glasses seem like they are onto something. I want to use the Oakley ones to make a surefire suppressor comparison shooting a pile of shitty overgrown zucchini squash we have, going to pick up some now lol When they aren't used for bad stuff they aren't a problem, but then, we know already how they're being abused and will be, especially if they're normalized. The whole world has collectively forgotten that selling out is bad, and now we all aspire to be papparazi and don't mind being gotcha-game journalists on the side. whatever comes next, I don't care to think of, the past had enough troubles already. |
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Originally Posted By rDigital: Everyone in our area calls them pervert glasses. There is even an app to out the wearers called "Zuckoff" on app store. I thought they would be kinda neat, but they attract all of the wrong kinds of attention, and are unlawful where I work. Brother, you gave me a god damn virus with that fucking link you posted. WTF!!?!?!?! |
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Originally Posted By Z_0: Is the resolution good enough to record events while driving? Sort of a user directed dash cam. Plenty of sample video on YT to check. I think the actual resolution is 1440x1920. Remember that it’s a square sensor so you have to turn your head to capture everything to the right and left. |
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I was planning on using HSA funds for a prescription pair of the Oakleys with prizm Rx lenses for cycling and outdoor sports. Would be perfect with the integrated headphones. I scratched that idea when all the pervert stereotyping came out. YouTube review video suggestions have been replaced with reports on meta glass creeps. |
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Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: People said this stuff about early camera phones. Early 3D media was supposedly used by Satan for teaching kids to kill eachother. If I wanted to “violate boundaries” as you put it, it wouldn’t be with something that has a front facing indicator light lol Nobody freaked out like this about the metaverse, so the glasses seem like they are onto something. I want to use the Oakley ones to make a surefire suppressor comparison shooting a pile of shitty overgrown zucchini squash we have, going to pick up some now lol TBF the metaverse was a program that you voluntarily entered and left at your own volition. Most people just said nope and it died on the vine. Glasses have gotten a lot more public acceptance in comparison but there are still issues and of course the wrong people find a use and ruin it for everyone. My guess is the pushback is due to the inability of most people to judge when someone is recording due to it being harder to tell (if you don’t know) than it is when someone is running around with their phone or video camera. I figure we will see some video of a Karen cussing out some blind guy for wearing them in short order. |
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Originally Posted By PacNW5: Pretty disappointing announcements from Meta Connect today Not many changes for the Gen 3 Metas. So, you still have the same 4:3 sensor. Apple glasses will probably be the catalyst that makes these mainstream if they don’t screw it up. Meta looks to be jumping full on into the AI world and improvements on their other products are being delayed a bit. The software update emails for mine have really slowed and aren’t as interesting as before. There is also a chance that they’ve run out of hardware capabilities with the current models though. |
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Originally Posted By Smokey0844: Apple glasses will probably be the catalyst that makes these mainstream if they don’t screw it up. Meta looks to be jumping full on into the AI world and improvements on their other products are being delayed a bit. The software update emails for mine have really slowed and aren’t as interesting as before. There is also a chance that they’ve run out of hardware capabilities with the current models though. Perhaps hardware challenges is why Apple delayed their release. I'm actually surprised that GoPro never released a version given their expertise. |
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Ost I was talking with our CPA about whether we could deduct them or not Fuck yes we can CPA advised me to keep some case photos in a log to prove they were used for billable hours More excited by translation on the go. My Spanish is pretty good, but we get a lot of casework on work related accidents because we're bilingual. This would translate and record witness interviews at the same time 
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Originally Posted By sanausnol: I saw a commercial for them recently where they were used by someone who is blind to help read and identify objects. I actually thought that was pretty awesome. Meta says they have donated a pair to every blind veteran on the VAs list. Being able to read again by holding a book in front of your face, even if your own eyes dont work Exciting times indeed Why do some minds immediately jump to the pervert thing? Says a lot |
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Originally Posted By PacNW5: Perhaps hardware challenges is why Apple delayed their release. I'm actually surprised that GoPro never released a version given their expertise. It sounds like they are going to launch a “base” glasses similar to the Meta Ray Bans first before the model with the AR capabilities. To me it makes sense to judge market acceptance before you continue to sink money into a failed product i.e. their goggles. Since they will have a camera, I’m curious to see how the public reacts since it’s Apple and not basically Facebook making them. |
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Originally Posted By pale_pony: Meta says they have donated a pair to every blind veteran on the VAs list. Being able to read again by holding a book in front of your face, even if your own eyes dont work Exciting times indeed Why do some minds immediately jump to the pervert thing? Says a lot I know people have issues with Meta and I’m not debating that but doing something like that should be commended regardless of how sketchy the company may be. |
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Originally Posted By pale_pony: Meta says they have donated a pair to every blind veteran on the VAs list. Being able to read again by holding a book in front of your face, even if your own eyes dont work Exciting times indeed Why do some minds immediately jump to the pervert thing? Says a lot On that same front, announced yesterday.. https://www.engadget.com/2267211/meta-brings-fda-cleared-hearing-enhancement-to-its-smart-glasses/ Meta's AI Glasses are getting a new feature made for wearers with hearing loss. During Meta Connect, the company announced that it's rolling out Hearing Enhancement to supported Meta Glasses later this year (that doesn't include the Ray-Ban models, at least to start). Users can access it as part of a Meta One subscription, or pay a one-time cost of $149. There's also the option to try a 30-day free trial before committing. The software has been cleared by the FDA and is eligible for HSA/FSA reimbursement, though you'd have to sort that out with your insurance carrier. It doesn't require a prescription and users can set it up at home. Wearers will be able to activate it or turn it off any time with a voice command ("Hey Meta, start Hearing Enhancement"). While Meta already offers a Conversation Focus mode to improve audibility in noisy environments, this new feature is designed specifically for users with mild to moderate hearing loss who may normally use a hearing aid. It comes alongside improvements to Meta Glasses' Detailed Responses feature based on feedback from the blind and low-vision community, as well as new customizable audio and controls. |
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Full disclosure: I worked at Meta's Reality Labs until retiring earlier this year. While I didn't work on the glasses discussed in this thread, I did work on the non camera glasses coming out shortly. I have both the Ray Bans and Oakleys. I prefer the Oakleys, due to style and that they handle the weight better without sliding down my face. These are sunglasses to me, so I'll rarely wear them inside, although the Ray Bans have transition lenses and would make more sense for indoor use. My primary use case is listening to music, and have also used them to answer/make handless phone calls and texts through voice commands. This is most useful when driving. I've also used it to explain the history of things I'm looking at and perform live language translations. This was useful when I had a team of contractors at the house recently and nobody spoke English. I'll be bringing them with me to Europe next year for these purposes. For the OP, I can say that the video quality is good, but lacks a zoom, and is best at social distances. It also has poor low light performance. I've noticed that the microphone quality can be more easily distorted than I would have thought. When used to record live music, I got good video, but the sound was badly distorted. On the other hand, the audio output quality is surprisingly good. It's open ear and not bone conducting as someone mentioned. It also auto compensates for ambient noise. Overall I've been pleased with them. The only people that approached me thus far knowing what they are have been very curious about them. I usually let them try them out by telling them to ask for their choice of music to be played. I've also introduced a few people to them and demoed capabilities such as video and photo capture via voice commands. Many people seem unaware of the capabilities, but do seem intrigued. I've not been angrily confronted while wearing them, but maybe I don't come off as a sleazy pervert, and certainly don't use them to intrusively record everything in my proximity. |
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Originally Posted By Southern_Raider: Full disclosure: I worked at Meta's Reality Labs until retiring earlier this year. While I didn't work on the glasses discussed in this thread, I did work on the non camera glasses coming out shortly. I have both the Ray Bans and Oakleys. I prefer the Oakleys, due to style and that they handle the weight better without sliding down my face. These are sunglasses to me, so I'll rarely wear them inside, although the Ray Bans have transition lenses and would make more sense for indoor use. My primary use case is listening to music, and have also used them to answer/make handless phone calls and texts through voice commands. This is most useful when driving. I've also used it to explain the history of things I'm looking at and perform live language translations. This was useful when I had a team of contractors at the house recently and nobody spoke English. I'll be bringing them with me to Europe next year for these purposes. For the OP, I can say that the video quality is good, but lacks a zoom, and is best at social distances. It also has poor low light performance. I've noticed that the microphone quality can be more easily distorted than I would have thought. When used to record live music, I got good video, but the sound was badly distorted. On the other hand, the audio output quality is surprisingly good. It's open ear and not bone conducting as someone mentioned. It also auto compensates for ambient noise. Overall I've been pleased with them. The only people that approached me thus far knowing what they are have been very curious about them. I usually let them try them out by telling them to ask for their choice of music to be played. I've also introduced a few people to them and demoed capabilities such as video and photo capture via voice commands. Many people seem unaware of the capabilities, but do seem intrigued. I've not been angrily confronted while wearing them, but maybe I don't come off as a sleazy pervert, and certainly don't use them to intrusively record everything in my proximity. Do you think they can get the Meta Display glasses structure closer to what Even has done with the G2s? |
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Originally Posted By Smokey0844: Do you think they can get the Meta Display glasses structure closer to what Even has done with the G2s? Probably not, unless some specs change. The Even glasses lack audio and a camera, and it's this circuitry that is beefing up the ear pieces on the Meta glasses. I suspect Meta is also using larger batteries as a result, which also adds mass in that area. Meta's display glasses are full RGB while Even's are monochromatic. I suspect that this may make the front frames a bit larger, but that's more of a physics question that I can't answer. I'm a firmware engineer. |
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EDIT: I see the post above me already mentions these. In for more input I've been looking into this lately and I'm about ready to pull the trigger. First off, not interested in the Meta glasses in the least and most of the tech savvy/professionals I know are in the same boat. What is interesting to me is a company called "Even Realities" and they have produced some really cool stuff. I first noticed this brand when I started seeing CEO's like Palmer Lucky wearing them during demos/speeches. High level, the glasses have no camera on them they just have a microphone and speakers. The two largest use-cases I've seen are; 1) Real time translation transcribed in real time right in front of your face. 2) The teleprompter app which essentially allows you to read off the glasses and give a speech like there is a teleprompter in front of you. You could recite Pi to the 100th digit Take a look at the marketing video below. The glasses are around $1,000+ with a ring that acts as a controller. I'll be heading to Asia for business in the next coming months and I'm planning on trying out the translation app to see how good it works.  Introducing Even G2 and R1. Get Ready to Wear the Future |
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Originally Posted By The_Master_Shake: I've been looking into this lately and I'm about ready to pull the trigger. First off, not interested in the Meta glasses in the least and most of the tech savvy/professionals I know are in the same boat. What is interesting to me is a company called "Even Realities" and they have produced some really cool stuff. I first noticed this brand when I started seeing CEO's like Palmer Lucky wearing them during demos/speeches. High level, the glasses have no camera on them they just have a microphone and speakers. The two largest use-cases I've seen are; 1) Real time translation transcribed in real time right in front of your face. 2) The teleprompter app which essentially allows you to read off the glasses and give a speech like there is a teleprompter in front of you. You could recite Pi to the 100th digit  Take a look at the marketing video below. The glasses are around $1,000+ with a ring that acts as a controller. I'll be heading to Asia for business in the next coming months and I'm planning on trying out the translation app to see how good it works.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAIhp9hia90The AI can also give context during conversations when it detects certain words or phrases. The issue I’m having with the G2s is that Even has clearly flooded YouTube with paid reviews and it’s hard to find someone who is at least trying to be fair with their critiques by pointing out any flaws or drawbacks. Either that or they are the greatest thing since sliced bread. Memomind might be better but it looks like they are having issues getting their product to market. Who knows but I’m still not ready to pull the trigger yet. |
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Originally Posted By Smokey0844: The AI can also give context during conversations when it detects certain words or phrases. The issue I’m having with the G2s is that Even has clearly flooded YouTube with paid reviews and it’s hard to find someone who is at least trying to be fair with their critiques by pointing out any flaws or drawbacks. Either that or they are the greatest thing since sliced bread. Memomind might be better but it looks like they are having issues getting their product to market. Who knows but I’m still not ready to pull the trigger yet. That's totally fair, I've watched probably a half dozen review videos now and I don't think there was a single one where I didn't question if it was paid/sponsored content There was one with an Asian kid (also felt very highly produced) where he recited Pi to the like 30th digit showing the teleprompter worked. He also tested out some of the translation features. Those are really the only two use cases I care about, with the translation feature being the driver. Also helps they look like regular glasses |
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Originally Posted By 67Firebird: That doesn't sound good at all. The mic would pick up every mouth-breather/cough/throat-clearing/etc. Originally Posted By 67Firebird: Originally Posted By Smokey0844:I'm pretty sure they use rigs that put the camera near your mouth for filming because of the exact issues you are talking about. But that brings up a whole other set of issues to me. My head-mounted GoPro already picks up breathing through my nose noticeably. |
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Originally Posted By The_Master_Shake: That's totally fair, I've watched probably a half dozen review videos now and I don't think there was a single one where I didn't question if it was paid/sponsored content There was one with an Asian kid (also felt very highly produced) where he recited Pi to the like 30th digit showing the teleprompter worked. He also tested out some of the translation features. Those are really the only two use cases I care about, with the translation feature being the driver. Also helps they look like regular glasses Pretty sure I’ve watched him as well. Those are the best use case scenarios for the translate feature. For what you’re looking for, they should be fine imo. The only benefit I can see with the meta ray bans is the ability to translate text but you can always use your phone for that. |
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I had the gen 1s when they came out and now have the gen2s. The stink about them was created by liberal 3s and 4s pretending men were filming them and the news media just ran with it. So now you have people calling them pervert glasses, even though it's incredibly obvious whenever you take a picture or video. |
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Originally Posted By Smokey0844: Pretty sure I’ve watched him as well. Those are the best use case scenarios for the translate feature. For what you’re looking for, they should be fine imo. The only benefit I can see with the meta ray bans is the ability to translate text but you can always use your phone for that. It's pretty clear all the future benefits of having a camera on the glasses, but for the time being I think the cons outweighs the benefits. . . especially because the aesthetics of the glasses that contain a camera are painfully obvious that you're wearing one. Many people will feel uncomfortable with a camera pointed at them, especially in a professional environment. |
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| I was recently looking to get a pair if I could get them cheap enough. I use prescription eyeglasses and I know the weirdness factor with them is probably going to get worse. I just want a pair to help me record my ball placement during bowling matches. They will have to be pretty damn cheap for that to happen. |
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Originally Posted By EnablerNo1: A friend uses them for shooting competitions to record his runs. For that purpose they are excellent. And I have no issue using them for a purpose like. Everyday social interactions; or in my case I ran into them at a dinner party; that is just douche and we should be clear and firm on that. |