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Posted: 2/12/2021 1:56:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Having grown up in Miami during and after it was produced. It cannot be recreated. The magic just isn't there. Again, it was very much a product of its time. The environment alone is different. That flashy Miami with a dark, gritty, violent back alley doesn't exist anymore just like a seedy NYC with porn shops on Time Square doesn't exist anymore. The entire culture, population, layout, and demographics of Miami doesn't exist anymore. What many don't realize is the influence that show had one South Florida. It literally helped end the drug wars down there. Miami Beach for example was a depressing place with run down Art Deco Motels full of old NYC Jews waiting to die. Michael Mann's production crew would paint up the fronts of the buildings and rehab the interiors for filming. Tourists would see those locations and actually come down to stay in them. That in turn got the old folks out and got young folks in Metro Dade (now known as Miami Dade) to move there and start businesses. Thus rising the property rates. The Mariel Boatlift Cubans by the end of the 80s were assimilating into the community. The non-Hispanic population was moving more and more to Broward County, and then Hurricane Andrew happened wiping out entire neighborhoods and uprooting long established residents saying "fuck it". The Cartels in Colombia were being unified under Pablo Escobar and thus the multiple sources of dope and methods of importation were being removed. Even the turf wars between the Cartels were ending because of it. Reagan's war on drugs and his pumping of money to LE was also being felt. The corruption and dirty cops were being chased out. South Florida today is nothing but HOAs and cookie cutter strip malls with populations that have no identity or connection to South Florida. You can't capture the lightning in a bottle that was 1980s Miami. It literally doesn't exist anymore. Plus the entire difference in tech would between then and now utterly ruin 90% of the plots from the original show. A lot of the drama in the show was that people didn't have instant communication and tracking of everybody. Thanks for this post, Miami. I grew up in Melbourne in the 70's and 80's and have only recently been to Miami for the first time a half-a-dozen years back. I did walk and drive through the city, and you are right - it's utterly different than it was back then. The feel is completely different. Rich. Vibrant. Friendly. Wealthy. It is a great American city that changed and evolved through time, and bringing it back would be like bringing back 1920's uptown New York, or 1934 Chicago. It would be as easy as faster-than-light travel to another star. 
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Posted: 2/12/2021 2:17:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Having grown up in Miami during and after it was produced. It cannot be recreated. The magic just isn't there. Again, it was very much a product of its time. The environment alone is different. That flashy Miami with a dark, gritty, violent back alley doesn't exist anymore just like a seedy NYC with porn shops on Time Square doesn't exist anymore. The entire culture, population, layout, and demographics of Miami doesn't exist anymore. What many don't realize is the influence that show had one South Florida. It literally helped end the drug wars down there. Miami Beach for example was a depressing place with run down Art Deco Motels full of old NYC Jews waiting to die. Michael Mann's production crew would paint up the fronts of the buildings and rehab the interiors for filming. Tourists would see those locations and actually come down to stay in them. That in turn got the old folks out and got young folks in Metro Dade (now known as Miami Dade) to move there and start businesses. Thus rising the property rates. The Mariel Boatlift Cubans by the end of the 80s were assimilating into the community. The non-Hispanic population was moving more and more to Broward County, and then Hurricane Andrew happened wiping out entire neighborhoods and uprooting long established residents saying "fuck it". The Cartels in Colombia were being unified under Pablo Escobar and thus the multiple sources of dope and methods of importation were being removed. Even the turf wars between the Cartels were ending because of it. Reagan's war on drugs and his pumping of money to LE was also being felt. The corruption and dirty cops were being chased out. South Florida today is nothing but HOAs and cookie cutter strip malls with populations that have no identity or connection to South Florida. You can't capture the lightning in a bottle that was 1980s Miami. It literally doesn't exist anymore. Plus the entire difference in tech would between then and now utterly ruin 90% of the plots from the original show. A lot of the drama in the show was that people didn't have instant communication and tracking of everybody. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Be like the remake of "Magnum", has no soul compared to the original. Having grown up in Miami during and after it was produced. It cannot be recreated. The magic just isn't there. Again, it was very much a product of its time. The environment alone is different. That flashy Miami with a dark, gritty, violent back alley doesn't exist anymore just like a seedy NYC with porn shops on Time Square doesn't exist anymore. The entire culture, population, layout, and demographics of Miami doesn't exist anymore. What many don't realize is the influence that show had one South Florida. It literally helped end the drug wars down there. Miami Beach for example was a depressing place with run down Art Deco Motels full of old NYC Jews waiting to die. Michael Mann's production crew would paint up the fronts of the buildings and rehab the interiors for filming. Tourists would see those locations and actually come down to stay in them. That in turn got the old folks out and got young folks in Metro Dade (now known as Miami Dade) to move there and start businesses. Thus rising the property rates. The Mariel Boatlift Cubans by the end of the 80s were assimilating into the community. The non-Hispanic population was moving more and more to Broward County, and then Hurricane Andrew happened wiping out entire neighborhoods and uprooting long established residents saying "fuck it". The Cartels in Colombia were being unified under Pablo Escobar and thus the multiple sources of dope and methods of importation were being removed. Even the turf wars between the Cartels were ending because of it. Reagan's war on drugs and his pumping of money to LE was also being felt. The corruption and dirty cops were being chased out. South Florida today is nothing but HOAs and cookie cutter strip malls with populations that have no identity or connection to South Florida. You can't capture the lightning in a bottle that was 1980s Miami. It literally doesn't exist anymore. Plus the entire difference in tech would between then and now utterly ruin 90% of the plots from the original show. A lot of the drama in the show was that people didn't have instant communication and tracking of everybody.  This is it now:  It's fucking depressing every time I drive down there now. That Miami, and especially that America - is long, long, gone. It's not even really fun down there anymore. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 11:37:32 AM EST
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That "fan edit" needs more Bren 10.
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Posted: 2/12/2021 11:49:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Couldn't agree more. This was downtown Miami around the time I was born here: https://miamihistorychannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/1980s-Bayside-Cover.jpg This is it now: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/87/eb/b087eb2a58c8243840b8f7f26b182626.jpg It's fucking depressing every time I drive down there now. That Miami, and especially that America - is long, long, gone. It's not even really fun down there anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Be like the remake of "Magnum", has no soul compared to the original. Having grown up in Miami during and after it was produced. It cannot be recreated. The magic just isn't there. Again, it was very much a product of its time. The environment alone is different. That flashy Miami with a dark, gritty, violent back alley doesn't exist anymore just like a seedy NYC with porn shops on Time Square doesn't exist anymore. The entire culture, population, layout, and demographics of Miami doesn't exist anymore. What many don't realize is the influence that show had one South Florida. It literally helped end the drug wars down there. Miami Beach for example was a depressing place with run down Art Deco Motels full of old NYC Jews waiting to die. Michael Mann's production crew would paint up the fronts of the buildings and rehab the interiors for filming. Tourists would see those locations and actually come down to stay in them. That in turn got the old folks out and got young folks in Metro Dade (now known as Miami Dade) to move there and start businesses. Thus rising the property rates. The Mariel Boatlift Cubans by the end of the 80s were assimilating into the community. The non-Hispanic population was moving more and more to Broward County, and then Hurricane Andrew happened wiping out entire neighborhoods and uprooting long established residents saying "fuck it". The Cartels in Colombia were being unified under Pablo Escobar and thus the multiple sources of dope and methods of importation were being removed. Even the turf wars between the Cartels were ending because of it. Reagan's war on drugs and his pumping of money to LE was also being felt. The corruption and dirty cops were being chased out. South Florida today is nothing but HOAs and cookie cutter strip malls with populations that have no identity or connection to South Florida. You can't capture the lightning in a bottle that was 1980s Miami. It literally doesn't exist anymore. Plus the entire difference in tech would between then and now utterly ruin 90% of the plots from the original show. A lot of the drama in the show was that people didn't have instant communication and tracking of everybody. https://miamihistorychannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/1980s-Bayside-Cover.jpg This is it now: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/87/eb/b087eb2a58c8243840b8f7f26b182626.jpg It's fucking depressing every time I drive down there now. That Miami, and especially that America - is long, long, gone. It's not even really fun down there anymore. Never lived down there but yearly from when I was 10 until I went away to college, my family would go down to Florida alternating between the Tampa/St. Pete area and the Miami area. I went down to Miami in 1999 for a wedding of a friend who was working for the DEA. I was shocked to see how built up the area was. |
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Posted: 2/18/2021 7:32:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That "fan edit" needs more Bren 10. 
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Posted: 2/18/2021 7:38:05 PM EST
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Posted: 2/19/2021 5:04:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That "fan edit" needs more Bren 10. Considering that 40 years have gone by, I would hope that the characters wouldn't be stuck in a time warp carrying old guns with impossible to find magazines. That does lend the question, however....if a new episodic show were to be made, how would you guys chose to arm the characters in terms of firearms of a more recent vintage than the original 1980s show |
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Posted: 2/19/2021 5:32:50 AM EST
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To me the quintessential episode is Out Where the Busses Don’t Run. It has everything.
It also shows why a new show could never capture the same feeling, The 80’s music was an equal character in the show, and the music is gone.  Brothers in Arms - Miami Vice Scene |
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Posted: 2/19/2021 5:47:18 AM EST
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BRB, playing GTA: Vice City again.
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Posted: 2/19/2021 5:53:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Considering that 40 years have gone by, I would hope that the characters wouldn't be stuck in a time warp carrying old guns with impossible to find magazines. That does lend the question, however....if a new episodic show were to be made, how would you guys chose to arm the characters in terms of firearms of a more recent vintage than the original 1980s show Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That "fan edit" needs more Bren 10. Considering that 40 years have gone by, I would hope that the characters wouldn't be stuck in a time warp carrying old guns with impossible to find magazines. That does lend the question, however....if a new episodic show were to be made, how would you guys chose to arm the characters in terms of firearms of a more recent vintage than the original 1980s show  Attached File Attached File |
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