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Link Posted: 3/10/2021 6:48:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hdhogman:
What U.S.A.F aircraft had a 'boxed tail'?
I was was born in 1960, total memory recall since age 3.
During the Cold War there were many flights over the S.W. PA area that I lived in then.
They flew over in formation daily.

You'd hear them before you could see them, a slow rumbling sound , I asked an older neighbor  'what's that sound'.
He replied, 'That sound is the end of the world coming'.
Thanks!
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 Boxed tail?


 Maybe C-119s?


Link Posted: 3/10/2021 7:07:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:
Originally Posted By hdhogman:
What U.S.A.F aircraft had a 'boxed tail'?
I was was born in 1960, total memory recall since age 3.
During the Cold War there were many flights over the S.W. PA area that I lived in then.
They flew over in formation daily.

You'd hear them before you could see them, a slow rumbling sound , I asked an older neighbor  'what's that sound'.
He replied, 'That sound is the end of the world coming'.
Thanks!




 Boxed tail?


 Maybe C-119s?


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Fairchild_C-119B_of_the_314th_Troop_Carrier_Group_in_flight%2C_1952_%28021001-O-9999G-016%29.jpg/1920px-Fairchild_C-119B_of_the_314th_Troop_Carrier_Group_in_flight%2C_1952_%28021001-O-9999G-016%29.jpg

Thanks, I just edited my post a moment ago and after a bit more searching came up with the C-119.
Link Posted: 3/10/2021 8:06:14 PM EDT
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AV-8B Harrier on a low level run out of Mountain Home AF Base. VMA-542 Tigers. That's my oldest out driving his company car.......

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RAF Eurofighter Typhoon in Battle of Britain Colors

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The Royal Air Force Battle of Britain Memorial Flight Hawker Hurricane marked as the aircraft flown by Flight Lieutenant Nick Nicolson, GN A, 16 August 1940.
Link Posted: 3/11/2021 1:02:19 PM EDT
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Old meets new, 4th Cavalry Regiment sometime in the 60's.





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Sexiest fighter jet ever.
Link Posted: 3/11/2021 1:10:25 PM EDT
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Civilian heli parked on one of our subs in 1955.
Link Posted: 3/11/2021 3:16:18 PM EDT
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nvm
Link Posted: 3/11/2021 4:03:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/135411/012uMWwnqaZ3_jpg-1861036.JPG

Civilian heli parked on one of our subs in 1955.
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Looks like they just dropped off Bond...
Link Posted: 3/11/2021 4:40:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/11/2021 5:07:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/135411/k4_60tal_jpg-1861023.JPG

Old meets new, 4th Cavalry Regiment sometime in the 60's.





https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/135411/draken_jpg-1861030.JPG

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Saab J35 Draken.
Love the dual Delta Wing design.
It's on my list!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_35_Draken
Link Posted: 3/11/2021 5:54:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seabee_Mech:
It's a boat, no it's a truck, no it's Super Man  a LARC-V. Replaced the DUKW (Duck) in 1963. Still in use in the Navy with Beach Masters and Under Water Construction Teams, the hulls are all Vietnam era production. The much bigger LARC-LX (LARC-60) is long retired.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/119852/BMU2-1365217.jpg


https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/119852/LARC_V_JPEG-1164127.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/119852/LARC-60-1674560.jpg


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So those are born and not made?
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 12:46:47 AM EDT
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C, E, and EX models.


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Link Posted: 3/12/2021 5:02:00 AM EDT
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In 1974, Japanese soldier Hiroo Onoda surrendering in the Philippines 29 years after the end of WW2
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Link Posted: 3/14/2021 11:23:14 AM EDT
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Good thing the Big "E" could haul ass into the wind for takeoff.

Some updated pics of her





Link Posted: 3/14/2021 11:40:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By birdbarian:


Good thing the Big "E" could haul ass into the wind for takeoff.

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59 not 65.



Link Posted: 3/14/2021 11:50:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/135411/k4_60tal_jpg-1861023.JPG

Old meets new, 4th Cavalry Regiment sometime in the 60's.





https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/135411/draken_jpg-1861030.JPG

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  Lansen,Tunnans,a Vampire,a Harvard and Junkers 86

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Link Posted: 3/14/2021 12:08:28 PM EDT
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Why did early Cold War British aircraft designers hate navigators/system operators?

Canberra:



Sea Vixen:

Link Posted: 3/14/2021 1:23:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


59 not 65.

https://i.imgur.com/ZmRhz1O.jpg

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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Originally Posted By birdbarian:


Good thing the Big "E" could haul ass into the wind for takeoff.



59 not 65.

https://i.imgur.com/ZmRhz1O.jpg


Forrest fire, good catch!!

Link Posted: 3/14/2021 5:25:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
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Skip to the 1:55 point for video.


C-130 Carrier Landings November 1963
Link Posted: 3/14/2021 9:19:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2A373:


Skip to the 1:55 point for video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGy2ppViCck
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Originally Posted By 2A373:
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://i.imgur.com/4Xxn9wa.jpg


Skip to the 1:55 point for video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGy2ppViCck

Excellent Video, Thank You.
Link Posted: 3/14/2021 9:23:03 PM EDT
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The Marines had this little gem in RC South in '10 .
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Link Posted: 3/14/2021 9:49:52 PM EDT
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U-2 Carrier ops

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U-2 carrier take offs and landings
Link Posted: 3/14/2021 10:28:02 PM EDT
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Must have been easy to drop that jet powered glider on to the wire, what with the extra weight of the huge brass balls the pilot was carrying around.

Fug......
Link Posted: 3/14/2021 11:26:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Must have been easy to drop that jet powered glider on to the wire, what with the extra weight of the huge brass balls the pilot was carrying around.

Fug......
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Must have been easy to drop that jet powered glider on to the wire, what with the extra weight of the huge brass balls the pilot was carrying around.

Fug......


That's definitely some insane shit.

Here's my first ship.

She was part of the RFA - Royal Fleet Auxiliary, which I think is similar to the US Military Service Command. Civilians running ships that aren't warships....

Falklands Argentinian Mirage pilot with big brass balls (RFA Stromness in the background):
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Falklands Argentinian bomb going off near the RFA Stromness:
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USNS Saturn T-AFS-10 (former RFA Stromness) in Sinkex. It is kinda weird seeing somewhere you loved and called home sent to Davy Jones' locker:


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Link Posted: 3/14/2021 11:52:25 PM EDT
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Harriers and helicopters land on Atlantic Conveyor, destination Falklands:
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One Harrier was kept on standby for defense, the rest stayed tarped:
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After delivering all the Harriers and some of the helicopters, but only a small part of their supplies, Atlantic Conveyor was hit by two Exocets and burned up before sinking, with 12 crew killed:
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Link Posted: 3/15/2021 12:34:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
Harriers and helicopters land on Atlantic Conveyor, destination Falklands:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/Atlantic-Conveyor-embarking-a-Sea-Harrie-1866147.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/Atlantic-Conveyor-embarking-a-Chinook-in-1866148.JPG

One Harrier was kept on standby for defense, the rest stayed tarped:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/Atlantic-Conveyor-sailing-South-01_jpg-1866149.JPG

After delivering all the Harriers and some of the helicopters, but only a small part of their supplies, Atlantic Conveyor was hit by two Exocets and burned up before sinking, with 12 crew killed:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/Atlantic-Conveyor-under-tow-by-the-tug-t-1866157.JPG

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I've always wondered about the Brit's damage control abilities compared to ours. They lost several warships in the Falklands where the US Navy saved both the USS Stark (two Exocets) and the USS Roberts (one mine). I really wanted to serve on an FFG or DDG, but my advanced training forced me to be on an AFS, flat top (Carrier, LHA or LPH) or tender.
Link Posted: 3/15/2021 6:34:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By birdbarian:


USS Stark (two Exocets)
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The Iraqi Air Force Falcon 50 YI-ALE (dubbed Suzanna) that fired two Exocet missiles against USS Stark.




THE USS STARK INCIDENT: THAT TIME A MODIFIED IRAQI FALCON 50 BUSINESS JET ALMOST SANK A US NAVY FRIGATE
Link Posted: 3/17/2021 12:50:03 PM EDT
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The American company Green Launch at the US Army artillery range in Yuma begins tests to develop ballistic suborbital access to near-earth orbit. For this, the so-called 175-mm / 55 "hydrogen energy satellite gun" will be used, which remained at the test site from the time of the HARP research project. The self-propelled gun M107 was used as a test carriage.
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Generally "bunkers" on a golf course don't quite look like that...
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Link Posted: 3/18/2021 5:42:57 PM EDT
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Belgian paratroopers riding a combat tricycle.

Fabrique National Model AS-24
Link Posted: 3/18/2021 6:20:31 PM EDT
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Flame Shermans, Korea
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Infantry phone
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Link Posted: 3/20/2021 9:17:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://i.imgur.com/1vQS5jK.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/1vQS5jK.jpg

The American company Green Launch at the US Army artillery range in Yuma begins tests to develop ballistic suborbital access to near-earth orbit. For this, the so-called 175-mm / 55 "hydrogen energy satellite gun" will be used, which remained at the test site from the time of the HARP research project. The self-propelled gun M107 was used as a test carriage.



I'm pretty sure we have a member here who is heavily involved in this. I don't remember who though.
Link Posted: 3/20/2021 4:08:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By birdbarian:


I've always wondered about the Brit's damage control abilities compared to ours. They lost several warships in the Falklands where the US Navy saved both the USS Stark (two Exocets) and the USS Roberts (one mine). I really wanted to serve on an FFG or DDG, but my advanced training forced me to be on an AFS, flat top (Carrier, LHA or LPH) or tender.
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 The Brits had a whole bunch more ships hit that survived,mostly due to improperly fused bombs. There were a half dozen  that were struck by bombs that never exploded and of course there was Antelope that sank when the defusing attempt detonated it. Overall I wouldn’t say there’s much of a comparative experience as so many more British ships were hit and therefore more opportunities for loss.

 If you want to compare Stark and Sheffield,fair enough but regarding damage control the main reason Sheffield was lost was because the Exocet made a lucky hit that destroyed their main water trunk. Still,the ship didn’t sink until days after it burned out. As for Atlantic Conveyor,it was never intended to take a missile  so not surprising that a ship that didn’t have thoughts of damage control in its design would not come off too well. Still though,it didn’t immediately sink either.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 6:49:53 AM EDT
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Chinese Type 63 APC sent to Australia by the South Vietnamese, 1972

REMEMBER WHEN … WE GOT A YW531?
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 6:52:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:



 The Brits had a whole bunch more ships hit that survived,mostly due to improperly fused bombs. There were a half dozen  that were struck by bombs that never exploded and of course there was Antelope that sank when the defusing attempt detonated it. Overall I wouldn’t say there’s much of a comparative experience as so many more British ships were hit and therefore more opportunities for loss.

 If you want to compare Stark and Sheffield,fair enough but regarding damage control the main reason Sheffield was lost was because the Exocet made a lucky hit that destroyed their main water trunk. Still,the ship didn’t sink until days after it burned out. As for Atlantic Conveyor,it was never intended to take a missile  so not surprising that a ship that didn’t have thoughts of damage control in its design would not come off too well. Still though,it didn’t immediately sink either.
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 The Brits had a whole bunch more ships hit that survived,mostly due to improperly fused bombs. There were a half dozen  that were struck by bombs that never exploded and of course there was Antelope that sank when the defusing attempt detonated it. Overall I wouldn’t say there’s much of a comparative experience as so many more British ships were hit and therefore more opportunities for loss.

 If you want to compare Stark and Sheffield,fair enough but regarding damage control the main reason Sheffield was lost was because the Exocet made a lucky hit that destroyed their main water trunk. Still,the ship didn’t sink until days after it burned out. As for Atlantic Conveyor,it was never intended to take a missile  so not surprising that a ship that didn’t have thoughts of damage control in its design would not come off too well. Still though,it didn’t immediately sink either.





Exact moment where HMS Coventry is hit by bombs dropped by 2 Argentine A-4P Skyhawks during the Falklands/Malvinas Conflict 1982
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 3:13:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:



 The Brits had a whole bunch more ships hit that survived,mostly due to improperly fused bombs. There were a half dozen  that were struck by bombs that never exploded and of course there was Antelope that sank when the defusing attempt detonated it. Overall I wouldn’t say there’s much of a comparative experience as so many more British ships were hit and therefore more opportunities for loss.

 If you want to compare Stark and Sheffield,fair enough but regarding damage control the main reason Sheffield was lost was because the Exocet made a lucky hit that destroyed their main water trunk. Still,the ship didn’t sink until days after it burned out. As for Atlantic Conveyor,it was never intended to take a missile  so not surprising that a ship that didn’t have thoughts of damage control in its design would not come off too well. Still though,it didn’t immediately sink either.
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:
Originally Posted By birdbarian:


I've always wondered about the Brit's damage control abilities compared to ours. They lost several warships in the Falklands where the US Navy saved both the USS Stark (two Exocets) and the USS Roberts (one mine). I really wanted to serve on an FFG or DDG, but my advanced training forced me to be on an AFS, flat top (Carrier, LHA or LPH) or tender.



 The Brits had a whole bunch more ships hit that survived,mostly due to improperly fused bombs. There were a half dozen  that were struck by bombs that never exploded and of course there was Antelope that sank when the defusing attempt detonated it. Overall I wouldn’t say there’s much of a comparative experience as so many more British ships were hit and therefore more opportunities for loss.

 If you want to compare Stark and Sheffield,fair enough but regarding damage control the main reason Sheffield was lost was because the Exocet made a lucky hit that destroyed their main water trunk. Still,the ship didn’t sink until days after it burned out. As for Atlantic Conveyor,it was never intended to take a missile  so not surprising that a ship that didn’t have thoughts of damage control in its design would not come off too well. Still though,it didn’t immediately sink either.


I was thinking about the destroyers and frigates that got hit, not the commercial vessels. Given the diverse mix here, I was hoping that there might be a RN vet around who had served during a similar time period who could comment on it.

In our training in the 80s, we watched the movie about the USS Forrestal fire, and we were told that the Navy had lost focus on DC during the period between WWII and Vietnam. It was a reminder why everyone needed to be knowledgeable about DC, and not just specially trained crew. I've been out over 30 years, and I can still tell you the classes of fires and what agents to use on each. I can probably still don an OBA in the dark.

Here's an interesting write up comparing the Sheffield and the Stark. https://www.quora.com/How-did-the-USS-Stark-survive-being-hit-by-2-Exocet-missiles-but-the-Sheffield-sank-by-a-single-Exocet
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 6:34:50 PM EDT
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The Neptune that guided the Etendards to Atlantic Conveyer.

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Link Posted: 3/21/2021 7:16:14 PM EDT
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Infantry phone
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Does every call start with "Don't back up!"
Link Posted: 3/22/2021 12:40:22 PM EDT
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KJ-1, a cancelled Chinese AWACS project, based on Tu-4 turboprop conversion. China aviation museum.
Link Posted: 3/22/2021 4:12:24 PM EDT
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Bundesgrenzschutz - Border Guard, 1950s, West Germany  

Link Posted: 3/22/2021 6:15:44 PM EDT
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Bundesgrenzschutz - Border Guard, 1950s, West Germany  

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Would expect them to be armed with a G-3.
Whoops, not in service until 1959, I really should have known that.
Link Posted: 3/22/2021 6:30:58 PM EDT
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Coontz class guided missile destroyer in the North Atlantic.
Link Posted: 3/22/2021 7:07:34 PM EDT
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Would expect them to be armed with a G-3.
Whoops, not in service until 1959, I really should have known that.
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In the late 1940s until the mid 1950s no armed organization of West Germany, like Police, BGS, Bavaria Municipal Police, Forest Guards, etc. was allowed to bear domestic weapons from WW2. The Allies feared riots of the units, therefore the ammunition was limited to a couple of rounds per gun (10 for a rifle) and ammo from hidden Wehrmacht depots could not be used.  (While the german Civilians hid hundreds of thousands of guns after the war, even under the threat of death penalty for owning a gun until 1956)

The Allies issued mostly outdated junk, Italian Carcanos, worn out M1 Carbines, Garands, Enfield No. 4, 1911 or Revolvers like this S&W Model 10:



Link Posted: 3/22/2021 7:21:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/23/2021 10:22:52 AM EDT
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Leclerc MBT with 140mm gun  







140mm vs 120mm shell



The 140mm gun was ready 1996, but canceled because it was too expensive.

When the T-14 Armata showed up in 2015, the French reactivated the 140mm gun project.



Terminateur, 1996



Link Posted: 3/23/2021 11:53:17 AM EDT
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I really like the look of that Leclerc. And that 140mm round:
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