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Posted: 10/16/2019 10:47:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By redoubt:
Nothing is ever done, it's just due. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By redoubt:
Originally Posted By StealthM8:
Engineers will keep changing stuff until you tell them to put the pencil down, the test is over. They can't help it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6HojLBsnw
The farming-space theme reminded me if this...  The Astronaut Farmer Trailer |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 8:56:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Matte clear Marvin's head maybe? I don't know how gloosy martians normally are, maybe semi-gloss, leaning matte personally. The clear would also smooth out the layers to appear more continuous. --ETA Helmet level matte ? |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 8:58:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ashraam:
I had thought to suggest the same. The gloss is taking away from the expressions and making the texture of the face material stand out more. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ashraam:
Originally Posted By brass: Matte clear Marvin's head maybe? I don't know how gloosy martians normally are, maybe semi-gloss, leaning matte personally. The clear would also smooth out the layers to appear more continuous. --ETA Helmet level matte ? |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 11:14:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
[#4]
I'm still alive
 , and the eyes are getting slightly adjusted. She added another set of expressive lines, and also enlarged the other set. She squinted one eye a bit more to show more difference.We still need to add the matte finish. 
Panther Space Shuttle patch got added to his NASA jacket. Pretty cool. 
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Posted: 10/17/2019 7:02:38 PM EDT
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Update 10/17
Lots of discussion and, well, arguing  about if Marvin is done or not. Several students who have not been involved with Marvin are not happy with how he looks. They want Marvin to hit the gym a bit.First, Marvin needed to get a bit of Mars on his shoes. 
We did get him in the rocket today. Some students think he is just too thin. I will let them have their shot at making him a bit more buff on Monday. Students who've worked on him so far are fine with the new team coming in to do a few alterations. 
 We are done with this shelf until we have the drilling rig. 
Pressure hatches and more details going on to some of the buildings on Mars. 
The passenger cabin on Starship is looking more finished. 
We have tomorrow off, so no more updates till Monday. 
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Posted: 10/17/2019 8:38:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Update 10/17 Lots of discussion and, well, arguing about if Marvin is done or not. Several students who have not been involved with Marvin are not happy with how he looks. They want Marvin to hit the gym a bit.First, Marvin needed to get a bit of Mars on his shoes. https://i.imgur.com/SydqBAv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/rzRZehZ.jpg We did get him in the rocket today. Some students think he is just too thin. I will let them have their shot at making him a bit more buff on Monday. Students who've worked on him so far are fine with the new team coming in to do a few alterations. https://i.imgur.com/ivyt1VJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5qA8AsX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/F0uvrJx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gsdmmh9.jpg We are done with this shelf until we have the drilling rig. https://i.imgur.com/Tva3N9z.jpg Pressure hatches and more details going on to some of the buildings on Mars. https://i.imgur.com/tOzw21f.jpg The passenger cabin on Starship is looking more finished. https://i.imgur.com/8a7tMc4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/WHwmh1h.jpg We have tomorrow off, so no more updates till Monday. I will go so far as to say "Get LOTS of matte clear". The rocket, his helmet, his face, all would look better and more even. If you can only find gloss, spray an even coat of that, let it dry overnight, then quickly mist it again (opposite of what you do for neat and smooth paint). Stand back a ways and sort of throw the droplets in the general direction of the surface so they dry slightly on the trip. Matte is easier, and you can do the same trick to make matte into Super matte finish. The other thing I'd mention, but fear retribution for, is the little ball on the nose, maybe go to ping pong ball size? Just how it is is good, I like the smaller ones on tail, but the rocket nose isn't cartoon enough (unless that was what you were going for). Little spike and ping pong ball or something.  The dirt on shoes is a very nice touch! |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 8:54:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
Looking good, I agree that Marvin is looking a little anorexic. I will go so far as to say "Get LOTS of matte clear". The rocket, his helmet, his face, all would look better and more even. If you can only find gloss, spray an even coat of that, let it dry overnight, then quickly mist it again (opposite of what you do for neat and smooth paint). Stand back a ways and sort of throw the droplets in the general direction of the surface so they dry slightly on the trip. Matte is easier, and you can do the same trick to make matte into Super matte finish. The other thing I'd mention, but fear retribution for, is the little ball on the nose, maybe go to ping pong ball size? Just how it is is good, I like the smaller ones on tail, but the rocket nose isn't cartoon enough (unless that was what you were going for). Little spike and ping pong ball or something. https://i.imgur.com/VgamOm1.jpg The dirt on shoes is a very nice touch! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 10/17 Lots of discussion and, well, arguing about if Marvin is done or not. Several students who have not been involved with Marvin are not happy with how he looks. They want Marvin to hit the gym a bit.First, Marvin needed to get a bit of Mars on his shoes. https://i.imgur.com/SydqBAv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/rzRZehZ.jpg We did get him in the rocket today. Some students think he is just too thin. I will let them have their shot at making him a bit more buff on Monday. Students who've worked on him so far are fine with the new team coming in to do a few alterations. https://i.imgur.com/ivyt1VJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5qA8AsX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/F0uvrJx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gsdmmh9.jpg We are done with this shelf until we have the drilling rig. https://i.imgur.com/Tva3N9z.jpg Pressure hatches and more details going on to some of the buildings on Mars. https://i.imgur.com/tOzw21f.jpg The passenger cabin on Starship is looking more finished. https://i.imgur.com/8a7tMc4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/WHwmh1h.jpg We have tomorrow off, so no more updates till Monday. I will go so far as to say "Get LOTS of matte clear". The rocket, his helmet, his face, all would look better and more even. If you can only find gloss, spray an even coat of that, let it dry overnight, then quickly mist it again (opposite of what you do for neat and smooth paint). Stand back a ways and sort of throw the droplets in the general direction of the surface so they dry slightly on the trip. Matte is easier, and you can do the same trick to make matte into Super matte finish. The other thing I'd mention, but fear retribution for, is the little ball on the nose, maybe go to ping pong ball size? Just how it is is good, I like the smaller ones on tail, but the rocket nose isn't cartoon enough (unless that was what you were going for). Little spike and ping pong ball or something. https://i.imgur.com/VgamOm1.jpg The dirt on shoes is a very nice touch!  and will be reattached later, but I like the idea of a larger ball. We can probably do that.
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Posted: 10/17/2019 9:36:01 PM EDT
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For Marvin, his waist is correct, seems he has more of a Roman-Greco Build (Grosse Pointe Blank callback).
Upper body shoulders and pecs, and legs to look like a drum stick. Lean and decent, but not bulging muscles. I think its the harsh angle transition from skinny chest/body to arms and legs that looks odd, curving them in would work but need more fabric. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 9:44:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
For Marvin, his waist is correct, seems he has more of a Roman-Greco Build (Grosse Pointe Blank callback). Upper body shoulders and pecs, and legs to look like a drum stick. Lean and decent, but not bulging muscles. I think its the harsh angle transition from skinny chest/body to arms and legs that looks odd, curving them in would work but need more fabric. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 9:57:25 PM EDT
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Marvin has a few different outfits.. I nearly commented on the gold trim until I looked into it.
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I like the all green helmet and kilt, no gold trim, with the red suit and shoes. Sometimes his helmet and kilt are gold with a green suit and shoes. Lots of variations.
Loving the thread Guns. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 10:10:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo:
Marvin has a few different outfits.. I nearly commented on the gold trim until I looked into it. https://supervillainadvice.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/illudium-pu-36-explosive-space-modulator.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/46582/download_jpg-1055300.JPG https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9Apg8tw72so/maxresdefault.jpg I like the all green helmet and kilt, no gold trim, with the red suit and shoes. Sometimes his helmet and kilt are gold with a green suit and shoes. Lots of variations.
Loving the thread Guns.
Even though it isnt the original outfit, the students though we should go with this combo. There were of course dissenters.
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Posted: 10/21/2019 9:45:15 AM EDT
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For some reason, coming back from a 3 day weekend, I've got a little anxiety.....just getting everything moving again.
It's nice to have students show up early and already working on the CAD design for 3D printing of our Raptor engines. 
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Posted: 10/21/2019 9:08:26 PM EDT
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Update 10/21
@FB41 had a SECOND package delivered to us today. When it was delivered to my room, I held it up and said, "guess what this is!!!!!!", this student raced up, and snatched it out of my hands, then ran off like a little kid, two students to in tow, all trying to get it to open. 
These are some of my upperclassman.
We got 4 boxes of nitrite gloves, a smaller cheese grater, and more safety glasses.
Taxidermy Princess approves!
We aren't sure why the kid with glasses loves safety glasses so much but we had to remind him not to scratch them. 
Blending the base coat paint with the low pressure paint gun is close to finished....we hope. Maybe we will be finished and ready for mural work by the end of the week. 
Solar panels are being assembled for the Mars colony. 
Marvins Vortex Viper spotting scope can back from his hunt and got mounted up to his rocket for fit. Marvin is also getting a bit of an adjustment, and getting a bit more thick. 
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:14:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Update 10/21 @FB41 had a SECOND package delivered to us today. When it was delivered to my room, I held it up and said, "guess what this is!!!!!!", this student raced up, and snatched it out of my hands, then ran off like a little kid, two students to in tow, all trying to get it to open.
These are some of my upperclassman.
https://i.imgur.com/rgljrM7.jpg We got 4 boxes of nitrite gloves, a smaller cheese grater, and more safety glasses.
https://i.imgur.com/NKZQjt0.jpg Taxidermy Princess approves!
https://i.imgur.com/VBKpqcU.jpg We aren't sure why the kid with glasses loves safety glasses so much but we had to remind him not to scratch them.
https://i.imgur.com/cvFWmcy.jpg Blending the base coat paint with the low pressure paint gun is close to finished....we hope. Maybe we will be finished and ready for mural work by the end of the week. https://i.imgur.com/z0YU94v.jpg Solar panels are being assembled for the Mars colony. https://i.imgur.com/ly5BhT6.jpg Marvins Vortex Viper spotting scope can back from his hunt and got mounted up to his rocket for fit. Marvin is also getting a bit of an adjustment, and getting a bit more thick. https://i.imgur.com/RL2oGGZ.jpg
That's a good fade there in the blue. Do they know they can partially release trigger (or turn knob on the back clockwise to reduce max travel/needle opening) to get less and less paint? I know this is against my earlier admonishment, but when doing a fade like that, it's OK to move the gun a bit further from the surface at the tail end where you need just the lightest mist to make it an invisible transition. Maybe 20" max and when the pant is barely coming out, a smooth release and pullback. Fading is one of the harder things to do, so it's very awesome looking for just starting out! |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:44:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: The lack of paint fog tells me you've got the pressure and distance a little more under control.
That's a good fade there in the blue. Do they know they can partially release trigger (or turn knob on the back clockwise to reduce max travel/needle opening) to get less and less paint? I know this is against my earlier admonishment, but when doing a fade like that, it's OK to move the gun a bit further from the surface at the tail end where you need just the lightest mist to make it an invisible transition. Maybe 20" max and when the pant is barely coming out, a smooth release and pullback. Fading is one of the harder things to do, so it's very awesome looking for just starting out!
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:40:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Yeah, they know, it's just hard for them to see the transition when they are so close. I usually have to bring them down and they see the problems then. It's not easy to create such a soft transition on such a large canvas. Many struggle with it. They are learning. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By brass: The lack of paint fog tells me you've got the pressure and distance a little more under control.
That's a good fade there in the blue. Do they know they can partially release trigger (or turn knob on the back clockwise to reduce max travel/needle opening) to get less and less paint? I know this is against my earlier admonishment, but when doing a fade like that, it's OK to move the gun a bit further from the surface at the tail end where you need just the lightest mist to make it an invisible transition. Maybe 20" max and when the pant is barely coming out, a smooth release and pullback. Fading is one of the harder things to do, so it's very awesome looking for just starting out! |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 7:25:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Honestly, it isn't something I'd expect them to get in the first few weeks of use. On a huge area like that especially. On the bright side, they don't need to make two sides of a car match. It's also fun to watch 4 different students work on the same basic areas, trying for the same effect, but usually ending up somewhere .........close.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 9:23:18 AM EDT
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Picture from Marvin's latest hunt. He's being requested again for this weekend. It's rough coming from Mars to safari in WY, Earth.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 3:04:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
I'm just happy we don't have a huge cloud in the hallways after 30min. They seem to have that figured out. It's also fun to watch 4 different students work on the same basic areas, trying for the same effect, but usually ending up somewhere .........close. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By brass: Honestly, it isn't something I'd expect them to get in the first few weeks of use. On a huge area like that especially. On the bright side, they don't need to make two sides of a car match. It's also fun to watch 4 different students work on the same basic areas, trying for the same effect, but usually ending up somewhere .........close. Pivoting wrist at the end so you're at a <45° angle to surface instead of pependicular mists it out nicely at low pressure, angle into the color you're fading, say white to blue, with white paint, angle fan toward blue a little bit at end of pass, shown in video. That stops hard lines, another option is to turn the fan off and use the cone, but that will leave blotches of heavier color easier. Best to do too little several times than way too much just once. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06fadp_QNO4[/youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06fadp_QNO4 |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 7:29:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Same concept applies to a mural, well, except the metallic making it 50x harder since flakes lay differently, so that part isn't so much of an issue, rest of the tips are good. Again, "reduce" == "thin" (w/water in your case) Pivoting wrist at the end so you're at a <45° angle to surface instead of pependicular mists it out nicely at low pressure, angle into the color you're fading, say white to blue, with white paint, angle fan toward blue a little bit at end of pass, shown in video. That stops hard lines, another option is to turn the fan off and use the cone, but that will leave blotches of heavier color easier. Best to do too little several times than way too much just once. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06fadp_QNO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06fadp_QNO4
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Posted: 10/22/2019 7:38:26 PM EDT
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Update 10/22
Some of our minor projects are getting closer to the next phase. Our Starship capsule was later sanded down, and is now ready for paint. We are discussing the best way to do that. 
Our Mars colony pieces are getting ore and more detailed. 
Our Marv's Barley stickers went on well today. Once dried they look a bit frosted. Maybe some clearcoat will make them look like this again? We might try that tomorrow. 
We added some texture and color to our ceramic envirodomes. Later we sanded some off. Tomorrow we will try to glue them in place and start adding airlock doorways. 
Last span of pivot is now close to finished. Paint will be next. 
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Posted: 10/23/2019 12:30:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Update 10/22 Some of our minor projects are getting closer to the next phase. Our Starship capsule was later sanded down, and is now ready for paint. We are discussing the best way to do that. https://i.imgur.com/PJ1qQDD.jpg Our Mars colony pieces are getting ore and more detailed. https://i.imgur.com/VLQsUy4.jpg Our Marv's Barley stickers went on well today. Once dried they look a bit frosted. Maybe some clearcoat will make them look like this again? We might try that tomorrow. https://i.imgur.com/rbnOTrK.jpg We added some texture and color to our ceramic envirodomes. Later we sanded some off. Tomorrow we will try to glue them in place and start adding airlock doorways. https://i.imgur.com/CC6SgjF.jpg Last span of pivot is now close to finished. Paint will be next. https://i.imgur.com/pe3ort6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/p4WEadg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jDCFWhn.jpg (the primer will also make sure the water based latex paint adheres to the urethane + talc based putty)
I'd suggest removing all the windows, then spraying to avoid anything like brush marks so it's sleek and smooth, but if the glass is goooed in, then not much option, lots of blue or green (low tack) masking tape needed no matter the route, not sure what the interior color should be or look like or if there should be a few points of light. Small like from one LED feeding a fiber optic bundle to make miniature light strips visible inside, again, no clue how visible this will be in the final display, which changes a lot on how much time to put into making it perfectly smooth. The Marv's Barley stickers, do you have a sacrificial one? Depends how it was printed and what the plastic/clear material is made from. Some might dissolve with clear, I recall a situation with something like a surfboard where I suggested that and it melted everything. Start by just misting it and letting it dry a bit at a time, then once fully covered, give it a full coat after a day or two to cure so the solvent doesn't hurt the image. 
Only other thing I can think of is sanding off the bumps on some of the re-purposed bottles so it's not really obvious where they came from. That, or add more detail stuff on top to obscure or blend in. It's looking awesome. Hopefully Elon will look at this and decide on a final design. |
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Posted: 10/23/2019 9:03:55 AM EDT
[#23]
Actually, the barley stickers look okay, at least in photos. Kinda looks like they were painted on a now-faded white background.
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Posted: 10/23/2019 2:27:59 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Picture from Marvin's latest hunt. He's being requested again for this weekend. It's rough coming from Mars to safari in WY, Earth.
https://i.imgur.com/I6kg9KL.jpg
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Posted: 10/23/2019 7:05:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: raffi383]
[#25]
Guns,
Don't forget the rings in the field where the pivot wheels leave their mark. |
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Posted: 10/23/2019 7:26:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raffi383:
Guns, Don't forget the rings in the field where the pivot wheels leave their mark.  I was ranting a bit after. They will be fine, people just got carried away with socializing and weren't watching very carefully. 
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Posted: 10/23/2019 7:29:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ashraam:
Actually, the barley stickers look okay, at least in photos. Kinda looks like they were painted on a now-faded white background. |
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Posted: 10/23/2019 7:40:46 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
They got cut yesterday...... not perfectly. I was ranting a bit after. They will be fine, people just got carried away with socializing and weren't watching very carefully. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By raffi383:
Guns, Don't forget the rings in the field where the pivot wheels leave their mark. I was ranting a bit after. They will be fine, people just got carried away with socializing and weren't watching very carefully. Everything's a project. |
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Posted: 10/23/2019 8:37:30 PM EDT
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Side project.
I can't tell you how proud I am of the young ladies who learned this technique/style on their own, and are now making money selling them online. Their stories would bring tears to your eyes, but they have a great attitude, work like crazy holding down two jobs, going to school, and doing this on the side for real money. They have been playing around with "soft mounts". There is a subculture that seems to like having these, and even wearing these(mostly foxes), attached to coats. There is wire in the legs, but poseable, and just pillow stuffing in the torso. The head has a traditional rug mount hard foam head. The eyes are also traditional taxidermy eyes. They have found that there is a very lively market online for these and they are getting around $350-400 for a coyote, more for foxes. This had been an important source of income for both of them. Today one of my students finished a coyote and was letting other students pose with it. It was a huge hit. In this photo it isn't quite done. The detail work in the yes and nose has not been done yet. Epoxy, paint, and gloss clearcoat was added later today. Title is, "When that hug goes a little long"  If I ever end up getting a wolf near my cabin, I might have to do this and attach it to my M65 field jacket.
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Posted: 10/23/2019 8:47:57 PM EDT
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Update 10/23
More lacing on the larger envirodome. 
We began attaching some of the igloos to our Mars colony landscape today. Doors/pressure hatches will be added over the next few days. 
We began fitting the forward "wings" on our Starship today. We did a little more bondo work this afternoon, so we will try tomorrow to attach them to the hinges. 
We were able to attach both Powell landscape ledges to the wall today. There is still plenty of work to do to both, but it gets them out of the way, and we can see more of what needs work, and adjustments. 
We did apply matte clearcoat to the Marv's Barley stickers and they cleared up more to our liking. We will add more to some of the Martian structures too. 
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Posted: 10/23/2019 8:59:59 PM EDT
[#31]
Looks like Ive got catching up to do
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Posted: 10/23/2019 9:04:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Side project. I can't tell you how proud I am of the young ladies who learned this technique/style on their own, and are now making money selling them online. Their stories would bring tears to your eyes, but they have a great attitude, work like crazy holding down two jobs, going to school, and doing this on the side for real money. They have been playing around with "soft mounts". There is a subculture that seems to like having these, and even wearing these(mostly foxes), attached to coats. There is wire in the legs, but poseable, and just pillow stuffing in the torso. The head has a traditional rug mount hard foam head. The eyes are also traditional taxidermy eyes. They have found that there is a very lively market online for these and they are getting around $350-400 for a coyote, more for foxes. This had been an important source of income for both of them. Today one of my students finished a coyote and was letting other students pose with it. It was a huge hit. In this photo it isn't quite done. The detail work in the yes and nose has not been done yet. Epoxy, paint, and gloss clearcoat was added later today. Title is, "When that hug goes a little long" https://i.imgur.com/p9hjp4u.jpg If I ever end up getting a wolf near my cabin, I might have to do this and attach it to my M65 field jacket.
That's kinda neat actually. |
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Posted: 10/23/2019 9:41:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tnertb:
So like a stuffed toy animal?
That's kinda neat actually. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tnertb:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Side project. I can't tell you how proud I am of the young ladies who learned this technique/style on their own, and are now making money selling them online. Their stories would bring tears to your eyes, but they have a great attitude, work like crazy holding down two jobs, going to school, and doing this on the side for real money. They have been playing around with "soft mounts". There is a subculture that seems to like having these, and even wearing these(mostly foxes), attached to coats. There is wire in the legs, but poseable, and just pillow stuffing in the torso. The head has a traditional rug mount hard foam head. The eyes are also traditional taxidermy eyes. They have found that there is a very lively market online for these and they are getting around $350-400 for a coyote, more for foxes. This had been an important source of income for both of them. Today one of my students finished a coyote and was letting other students pose with it. It was a huge hit. In this photo it isn't quite done. The detail work in the yes and nose has not been done yet. Epoxy, paint, and gloss clearcoat was added later today. Title is, "When that hug goes a little long" https://i.imgur.com/p9hjp4u.jpg If I ever end up getting a wolf near my cabin, I might have to do this and attach it to my M65 field jacket.
That's kinda neat actually. It was amazing how popular this was with students today. Even kids who normally might "ewww" at traditional mounts wanted to hold this like a baby and walk around with it.
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Posted: 10/23/2019 9:47:17 PM EDT
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Are you still planning the Columbia Hills for the Space Shuttle tie in to the panaorama landscape on the walls?
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Posted: 10/23/2019 9:51:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo:
Are you still planning the Columbia Hills for the Space Shuttle tie in to the panaorama landscape on the walls? Finally, I can get some of my painters working on the murals for this display. That will be one of them.
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Posted: 10/23/2019 10:02:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Yeah, my former student was telling me the history she'd learned about these. It used to be quite common, and led to the "teddy bear", since bears were too big to do this with....for the most part. I know "teddy" is short for Theodore Roosevelt, but this is what she was telling me about the origins of "stuffed toy animals". It was amazing how popular this was with students today. Even kids who normally might "ewww" at traditional mounts wanted to hold this like a baby and walk around with it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By tnertb:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Side project. I can't tell you how proud I am of the young ladies who learned this technique/style on their own, and are now making money selling them online. Their stories would bring tears to your eyes, but they have a great attitude, work like crazy holding down two jobs, going to school, and doing this on the side for real money. They have been playing around with "soft mounts". There is a subculture that seems to like having these, and even wearing these(mostly foxes), attached to coats. There is wire in the legs, but poseable, and just pillow stuffing in the torso. The head has a traditional rug mount hard foam head. The eyes are also traditional taxidermy eyes. They have found that there is a very lively market online for these and they are getting around $350-400 for a coyote, more for foxes. This had been an important source of income for both of them. Today one of my students finished a coyote and was letting other students pose with it. It was a huge hit. In this photo it isn't quite done. The detail work in the yes and nose has not been done yet. Epoxy, paint, and gloss clearcoat was added later today. Title is, "When that hug goes a little long" https://i.imgur.com/p9hjp4u.jpg If I ever end up getting a wolf near my cabin, I might have to do this and attach it to my M65 field jacket.
That's kinda neat actually. It was amazing how popular this was with students today. Even kids who normally might "ewww" at traditional mounts wanted to hold this like a baby and walk around with it. The rest is coming along nicely. I'm glad you've discovered the wonders of matte clear for hiding or showing things. I love clear coat. It's a wonderful even things out covering to make things look continuous, instead of a bunch of things put next to each other. The fades on the wall look good. Only one area, brown above Marv's Barley. If you'll be up there anyway, maybe a bit more in the brown on upper left side, but the rest is good. It's passable as is, but for a picky person, there's brown and a band of mist without a much of tapered fade. Although it is NOT easy to do perfectly. Sometimes fixing it means you have start again with the other color working backwards, which kind of sucks... Takes practice. Did I mention the practice method of using water on brown paper bags? Infinitely re-useable, get good control, paper turns darker brown when the water hits it and lets you see how it's going. Then let it dry and you can do it again on the same paper. Maybe I, uhh, should have mentioned that first. 
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Posted: 10/24/2019 8:33:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
[#37]
Update 10/24
More Mars colony work today. This is a new structure piece that will be pretty detailed when done. 
Igloos getting some pressure doors. 
Securing the front wings on the capsule.  By the end of the day we were getting some of the first coats of paint on our pivot.  A little beefier Marvin and his rocket made it up on the display wall. We needed to see how much it will cover for positioning our clouds and Heart Mountain. Thanks again @VortexOptics ! His spotting scope is scheduled to go out again this weekend on an mule deer hunt. We might try to adjust the angle of attack tomorrow. We might be able to get it to shallow out a bit. We will see how easy it is to bend that 1/2" round bar.
We also got the clock up on the wall. The mural work has begun!
We are still trying to find a super small cowboy hat for Marvin to have in his hand. 
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Posted: 10/24/2019 10:07:24 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Weve got the little white lines above his eyes, but I think you are right about emphasizing them a bit more. I have the reference at school and will post the version we used. It had more realistic eyes. Finally caught up, things are looking great. |
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Posted: 10/24/2019 10:17:15 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Yeah, my former student was telling me the history she'd learned about these. It used to be quite common, and led to the "teddy bear", since bears were too big to do this with....for the most part. I know "teddy" is short for Theodore Roosevelt, but this is what she was telling me about the origins of "stuffed toy animals". It was amazing how popular this was with students today. Even kids who normally might "ewww" at traditional mounts wanted to hold this like a baby and walk around with it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By tnertb:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Side project. I can't tell you how proud I am of the young ladies who learned this technique/style on their own, and are now making money selling them online. Their stories would bring tears to your eyes, but they have a great attitude, work like crazy holding down two jobs, going to school, and doing this on the side for real money. They have been playing around with "soft mounts". There is a subculture that seems to like having these, and even wearing these(mostly foxes), attached to coats. There is wire in the legs, but poseable, and just pillow stuffing in the torso. The head has a traditional rug mount hard foam head. The eyes are also traditional taxidermy eyes. They have found that there is a very lively market online for these and they are getting around $350-400 for a coyote, more for foxes. This had been an important source of income for both of them. Today one of my students finished a coyote and was letting other students pose with it. It was a huge hit. In this photo it isn't quite done. The detail work in the yes and nose has not been done yet. Epoxy, paint, and gloss clearcoat was added later today. Title is, "When that hug goes a little long" https://i.imgur.com/p9hjp4u.jpg If I ever end up getting a wolf near my cabin, I might have to do this and attach it to my M65 field jacket.
That's kinda neat actually. It was amazing how popular this was with students today. Even kids who normally might "ewww" at traditional mounts wanted to hold this like a baby and walk around with it. And glad the boy who was in the wreck is doing well. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:30:23 AM EDT
[#40]
Marvin looks awesome!! Love the pics!!
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Posted: 10/25/2019 5:24:11 PM EDT
[#41]
Update 10/25
We were able to take Marvin off the wall today and do some quick bending of the rod so that he was not quite in as steep of angle of attack. Luckily, my butt was heavy enough that I could press down on the anchor point while one of my wrestler seniors was able to lift up and get the adjustment we needed. He was lifting the other student off the ground when they first tried.
With Elon's update on the Starship Heavy lift design, we had to move a couple details a bit lower on the main fuselage.  With some of the first coats of paint on our pivot system, we started adding some "water" to the sprinkler heads. This will be quite tedious, but there were lots of students who thought this was fun.  One strand of fishing line was added at a time.
We've got a long ways to go....... 
 We've added more details and textures to our Mars colony buildings. Soon paint and logos. Maybe some signs later. 
Students also seemed to find painting individual rocks blue, enjoyable. It does look pretty cool.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 6:17:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Update 10/25 We were able to take Marvin off the wall today and do some quick bending of the rod so that he was not quite in as steep of angle of attack. Luckily, my butt was heavy enough that I could press down on the anchor point while one of my wrestler seniors was able to lift up and get the adjustment we needed. He was lifting the other student off the ground when they first tried.
https://i.imgur.com/LanJpno.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5yvnR1S.jpg https://i.imgur.com/thpFOIy.jpg With Elon's update on the Starship Heavy lift design, we had to move a couple details a bit lower on the main fuselage. https://i.imgur.com/PDebVHX.jpg With some of the first coats of paint on our pivot system, we started adding some "water" to the sprinkler heads. This will be quite tedious, but there were lots of students who thought this was fun. One strand of fishing line was added at a time.https://i.imgur.com/wzlKNPo.jpg We've got a long ways to go.......
https://i.imgur.com/VoQF4Kh.jpg We've added more details and textures to our Mars colony buildings. Soon paint and logos. Maybe some signs later. https://i.imgur.com/v7EXjND.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fPL3rhd.jpg Students also seemed to find painting individual rocks blue, enjoyable. It does look pretty cool.
https://i.imgur.com/rBmSZRb.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sAJCetw.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Ay04p2K.jpg You must be teaching Masochism 101 if they enjoyed adding the 'water', but I agree that it will look cool when finished. Possibly passive symptoms of rivet trauma during youth. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 6:45:56 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: The fades through colors into blue on Marvin's right hand side (hallway wall) looks Excellent! You must be teaching Masochism 101 if they enjoyed adding the 'water', but I agree that it will look cool when finished. Possibly passive symptoms of rivet trauma during youth. Luckily, I'm hoping clouds will help as we go.
And, yes, it is probably symptoms of rivet trauma.... my seniors have definitely done a few.  The rock painting may end up rivaling the rivets. We need to paint both sides of each shelf.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 8:07:36 PM EDT
[#44]
Were (are) there clouds on Mars before Quaid?
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Posted: 10/25/2019 8:33:41 PM EDT
[#45]
If you have a water tank somewhere in the Mars colony you should put a Pur & Kleen Water Company logo on it.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 8:43:52 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoosierhick:
If you have a water tank somewhere in the Mars colony you should put a Pur & Kleen Water Company logo on it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/22875/Purnkleen-1137608.png 
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Posted: 10/25/2019 8:50:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kpel308]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Help me with the reference here..... 
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Posted: 10/25/2019 8:54:20 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpel308:
It's from "The Expanse": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Expanse_(TV_series) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CULxLPZXAAAlg20.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpel308:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Help me with the reference here..... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CULxLPZXAAAlg20.png |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:17:33 PM EDT
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Keep in mind the air pressure on Mars is pretty close to zero - even though it gets up to 72 degrees F in the summer on the equator, even w/ an oxygen mask on you couldn't stand outside w/o a pressure suit on.
That means unless there is a lower pressure inside the habitats (likely), sea level Earth atmospheric pressure is 14.7 pounds per square inch. That means the pressure on closed doors is rather tremendous - tons of force. It's likely b/c of that fact, habitats on Mars would run a partial pressure atmosphere w/ a higher concentration of oxygen, much like the Apollo program did - that still leaves a tremendous amount of pressure on flat surfaces. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:32:45 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
The pictures make the fade look better than it is.... Luckily, I'm hoping clouds will help as we go.
And, yes, it is probably symptoms of rivet trauma.... my seniors have definitely done a few. The rock painting may end up rivaling the rivets. We need to paint both sides of each shelf. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By brass: The fades through colors into blue on Marvin's right hand side (hallway wall) looks Excellent! You must be teaching Masochism 101 if they enjoyed adding the 'water', but I agree that it will look cool when finished. Possibly passive symptoms of rivet trauma during youth. Luckily, I'm hoping clouds will help as we go.
And, yes, it is probably symptoms of rivet trauma.... my seniors have definitely done a few. The rock painting may end up rivaling the rivets. We need to paint both sides of each shelf. And a 0.05㎜ airbrush needle/nozzle, along with a sadistic nature, which goes without saying. 
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