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I have a Stanton T.90 USB from a dementia estate. Can someone tell me if that is crap-OK-good-great, whatever ??????
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Originally Posted By Bronsonburner: My current setup is JBL Studio 590s with 350 per channel going into them. In a 12x14 room lol. No sub needed. One of the main benefits of moving to the country was not fearing the cops being called on me for loud music. PS If anyone cares, the JBL studio 5 series is a great "budget" line. Designed by the great Greg Timbers, a world-renowned audio engineer. The looks aren't for everyone, but for the price I paid for mine, IDGAF. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bronsonburner: Originally Posted By Slare: The turntable is the only thing I'd buy new, or of a well known nearly new vintage. Everything else would be used, but I'm in a big metro area and great used gear can be found in terms of speakers/amps/AVRs. Nobody wants tower speakers anymore, and lots of high end AVRs are dirt cheap due to old HDMI specs. Separates are tougher but still a lot to be saved used. Dedicated music system for me would be 2.0 with big towers and enough power behind them, no fussing with subs. My current setup is JBL Studio 590s with 350 per channel going into them. In a 12x14 room lol. No sub needed. One of the main benefits of moving to the country was not fearing the cops being called on me for loud music. PS If anyone cares, the JBL studio 5 series is a great "budget" line. Designed by the great Greg Timbers, a world-renowned audio engineer. The looks aren't for everyone, but for the price I paid for mine, IDGAF. 590's are a great bang for the buck when they go on sale. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/jbl-studio-590-speaker-review.47269/ |
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I recently upgraded speakers, so of course that triggered a desire to upgrade the rest of my system.
Think I'm gonna go with a Schitt stack. Thinking a Freya+ and a Vidar2. Might eventually toss in a Modus so I can add a Bluetooth receiver for when I don't feel like spinning wax. Now the real question. And I'm sure it's a contentious one. Replacement cartridges. Been a while, it's probably time. What's the current hotness? Current turntable is an SL-D1. |
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RIP Sparky 1/15/15
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Originally Posted By Wulfmann: I have a Stanton T.90 USB from a dementia estate. Can someone tell me if that is crap-OK-good-great, whatever ?????? View Quote It's basically a digital turntable which is kind of an oxymoron. It's not the worst one in the world but you can buy a couple Pioneer models for about the same money that will absolutely out perform it in every way possible. Stanton and Numark used to offer some serious alternatives to the Technics 1200 for those on a budget, but in the last 20 years they've mostly made the same empty plastic shell full of chinese parts that everyone else offers. For a lot of vinyl users, your Stanton would be just fine. Most people are more concerned with the looks of their setup than performance. That is why you see so many expensive home systems that are still a belt drive turntable. You are literally trusting the sound of your music to a rubber band and a tiny motor, you will not get consistency. The only people who should be using belt drives are brand new DJs learning to back spin and that's just do they don't fuck up a decent direct drive table. For people who listen to their music on their phone, their phone hooked up to a home or car system or use "Beats" headphones they don't really listen to quality sound anyway so they can pretty much listen to anything. For people who have a system set up so clean that vinyl sounds better than most people's CDs at an outdoor or indoor event, choice of turntable is a serious consideration. My vintage SB-S409s will clown most speaker towers that people have in their homes, but people buy shit based on looks not how things sound. It's all I need to listen to music anywhere in my house and I don't go near 11. And if people are trying to sleep I've got some nice BA studio monitors that actually sound better than some home systems I've heard. So it really does come back to expectations, what condition your vinyl is in and how you listen to music. You can easily get there on the OPs budget, you just have to spend the money in the right place. And you can spend three times as much and still have impressive looking shit audio, but it will look cool. Futuristic looking amps, speakers with a dozen 8 inch woofers and zero midrange capability and a seriously Sharper Image belt driven turntable with glass platter. Another consideration, I bought my 1200s in 1984, they were in heavy use to the mid 90s and they still work perfectly. I am on my second set of cartridges. Prior to that I had a pair of used SL-210s that were basically my "training wheels" tables. |
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok: Now the real question. And I'm sure it's a contentious one. Replacement cartridges. Been a while, it's probably time. What's the current hotness? Current turntable is an SL-D1. View Quote There are too many. I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right. Here are a couple off my SL-D2: Betty Davis - Shoo-B-Doop And Cop Him (Vinyl) Iron Maiden - Wrathchild (vinyl) |
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Originally Posted By Subnet: There are too many. I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right. Here are a couple off my SL-D2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY View Quote Is it me or are your tables pitched way down? Looking at the strobe running backwards. |
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Originally Posted By 6EQUJ5: It's basically a digital turntable which is kind of an oxymoron. It's not the worst one in the world but you can buy a couple Pioneer models for about the same money that will absolutely out perform it in every way possible. Stanton and Numark used to offer some serious alternatives to the Technics 1200 for those on a budget, but in the last 20 years they've mostly made the same empty plastic shell full of chinese parts that everyone else offers. Another consideration, I bought my 1200s in 1984, they were in heavy use to the mid 90s and they still work perfectly. I am on my second set of cartridges. Prior to that I had a pair of used SL-210s that were basically my "training wheels" tables. View Quote I bought a Technics in 1977 and it worked perfectly over the decades. I don't know what model it was but it was top of the line in 77 like my HK twin power amp I bought with it When I moved in 2013 I literally assumed it was worthless and threw it in the trash I am beginning to think I made a mistake. |
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Originally Posted By Subnet: There are too many. I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right. Here are a couple off my SL-D2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Subnet: Originally Posted By Lothbrok: Now the real question. And I'm sure it's a contentious one. Replacement cartridges. Been a while, it's probably time. What's the current hotness? Current turntable is an SL-D1. There are too many. I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right. Here are a couple off my SL-D2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY That’s one that had come up a few times in my search. Good to hear you’ve had good experiences. Think I’ll pick one up. |
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RIP Sparky 1/15/15
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Originally Posted By 6EQUJ5: Is it me or are your tables pitched way down? Looking at the strobe running backwards. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 6EQUJ5: Originally Posted By Subnet: There are too many. I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right. Here are a couple off my SL-D2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY Is it me or are your tables pitched way down? Looking at the strobe running backwards. |
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok: That’s one that had come up a few times in my search. Good to hear you’ve had good experiences. Think I’ll pick one up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lothbrok: Originally Posted By Subnet: Originally Posted By Lothbrok: Now the real question. And I'm sure it's a contentious one. Replacement cartridges. Been a while, it's probably time. What's the current hotness? Current turntable is an SL-D1. There are too many. I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right. Here are a couple off my SL-D2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY That’s one that had come up a few times in my search. Good to hear you’ve had good experiences. Think I’ll pick one up. You can't go wrong with it, Subnet is giving great advice here. I have one on my Technics SL-Q2. It seems that people who service turntables really like these old technics and would take them any day over any of the uturns or projeks or linns. They don't make em like they used to unless you spend a God awful amount of money. An SL-Q2 or SL-D2 can be picked up for cheap if you keep your eyes open. |
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Originally Posted By wildturkey09: You can't go wrong with it, Subnet is giving great advice here. I have one on my Technics SL-Q2. It seems that people who service turntables really like these old technics and would take them any day over any of the uturns or projeks or linns. They don't make em like they used to unless you spend a God awful amount of money. An SL-Q2 or SL-D2 can be picked up for cheap if you keep your eyes open. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By wildturkey09: Originally Posted By Lothbrok: Originally Posted By Subnet: Originally Posted By Lothbrok: Now the real question. And I'm sure it's a contentious one. Replacement cartridges. Been a while, it's probably time. What's the current hotness? Current turntable is an SL-D1. There are too many. I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right. Here are a couple off my SL-D2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY That's one that had come up a few times in my search. Good to hear you've had good experiences. Think I'll pick one up. You can't go wrong with it, Subnet is giving great advice here. I have one on my Technics SL-Q2. It seems that people who service turntables really like these old technics and would take them any day over any of the uturns or projeks or linns. They don't make em like they used to unless you spend a God awful amount of money. An SL-Q2 or SL-D2 can be picked up for cheap if you keep your eyes open. If they sold it without a cartridge (since I already have ones I like), I'd buy it that way. But they don't. |
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Originally Posted By Subnet: If I had to buy a brand new turntable right now, I'd pick up a Fluance RT81+. It ticks all of the important boxes that matter, and it looks nice. $300. If they sold it without a cartridge (since I already have ones I like), I'd buy it that way. But they don't. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Subnet: Originally Posted By wildturkey09: Originally Posted By Lothbrok: Originally Posted By Subnet: Originally Posted By Lothbrok: Now the real question. And I'm sure it's a contentious one. Replacement cartridges. Been a while, it's probably time. What's the current hotness? Current turntable is an SL-D1. There are too many. I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right. Here are a couple off my SL-D2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY That's one that had come up a few times in my search. Good to hear you've had good experiences. Think I'll pick one up. You can't go wrong with it, Subnet is giving great advice here. I have one on my Technics SL-Q2. It seems that people who service turntables really like these old technics and would take them any day over any of the uturns or projeks or linns. They don't make em like they used to unless you spend a God awful amount of money. An SL-Q2 or SL-D2 can be picked up for cheap if you keep your eyes open. If they sold it without a cartridge (since I already have ones I like), I'd buy it that way. But they don't. Yeah but like…I bought this SL-D1 15 years ago for $25. |
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RIP Sparky 1/15/15
"Did you not take into account I'm a noble savage? Unapologetic lifer for rock 'n roll!" |
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Originally Posted By Subnet: If I had to buy a brand new turntable right now, I'd pick up a Fluance RT81+. It ticks all of the important boxes that matter, and it looks nice. $300. View Quote So an artist I like is only releasing stuff on Vinyl now. Thinking about picking up a turntable just so I can buy the records. Might regret it. Also might have to switch out my amp for an amp/preamp combo from Schiit. And I need new headphone cables. I think the Fluance just moved to the top of my list. ETA: Also looking at the Audio-Technica AT-LP5X; I like that it has a USB-out if I want to make digital recordings |
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Proud millennial.
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok: Yeah but like I bought this SL-D1 15 years ago for $25. View Quote I have a ~10 year old Project Debut Carbon that's collecting dust. I really only ever use it when I'm doing live broadcasts with the SL-D2, and want to cue up a second LP seamlessly. And I haven't done that in a long time. Ergo...dust collector. The SL-D2 is showing it's age. The pitch control sometimes goes haywire, requiring nearly all of it's range in one direction to maintain platter speed. And then it "fixes" itself in a few hours, and works normally again near the middle of its range. It's probably dirty, if I had to guess (if so, DeoxIT will probably take care of it). The anti-skate mechanism also failed recently, so I'll have to take the whole thing apart and see what's going on there. I've already had it apart (5 or 6 years ago?) to repair the automatic functions. 45 year old turntables be like that, sometimes. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ss2nv: Originally Posted By Yaguar: McIntosh Agreed https://i.imgur.com/fLimMZ3.jpeg Im a Martin Logan request owner. Panels dip to 1.2 ohm. I want McIntosh tube for the panels. The woofer will get solid state 600 watt. What would you recommend? Basically bi amp. Tube for panel, solid for woofer. Xover is 120 I believe. 2x4 foot panel. Or should I just call McIntosh? |
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Golden Ears on Arfcom? Huh?
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Originally Posted By Subnet: There are too many. I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right. Here are a couple off my SL-D2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY View Quote A Dad I've never seen |
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Anyone remember quadraphonic?
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“Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes.”
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Originally Posted By M4-AK: Golden Ears on Arfcom? Huh? View Quote Been audiophile 30 plus years. It’s not the gear. It’s the reproduction of music that most have never experienced. The gear, even modest gear makes it possible. That’s why analog turntable is making a comeback. 20 years and they’ve never heard a good stereo. Ever. |
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Originally Posted By spidey07: Im a Martin Logan request owner. Panels dip to 1.2 ohm. I want McIntosh tube for the panels. The woofer will get solid state 600 watt. What would you recommend? Basically bi amp. Tube for panel, solid for woofer. Xover is 120 I believe. 2x4 foot panel. Or should I just call McIntosh? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By spidey07: Originally Posted By ss2nv: Originally Posted By Yaguar: McIntosh Agreed https://i.imgur.com/fLimMZ3.jpeg Im a Martin Logan request owner. Panels dip to 1.2 ohm. I want McIntosh tube for the panels. The woofer will get solid state 600 watt. What would you recommend? Basically bi amp. Tube for panel, solid for woofer. Xover is 120 I believe. 2x4 foot panel. Or should I just call McIntosh? Sounds to me like an opportunity to try out a couple of their MC901s... To be honest though, yeah, asking them for their take is probably the best path. |
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Bump, as I am looking into getting a decent turntable with a USB out, and can be hooked up to an older receiver with pre am input.
I listen to a lot of extreme and obscure metal and it is actually easier to get some of the albums on vinyl than any other media. |
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Originally Posted By cancard: Anyone remember quadraphonic? View Quote Yes. I still have a few Discrete Quad 8 track tapes from back in '75 or so. Don't have the player any longer. Had the pioneer receiver and quad reel to reel as well. I downsized many years ago and sold off all the quad equipment. Dark Side of the Moon was stunning in quad. (One of my remaining quad 8 tracks). |
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