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Link Posted: Yesterday 8:09:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spidey07:
This is why Nyquist is wrong.
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Thems fightn words!
Link Posted: Yesterday 8:25:19 PM EDT
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I have a Stanton T.90 USB from a dementia estate. Can someone tell me if that is crap-OK-good-great, whatever ??????
Link Posted: Yesterday 9:17:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By castlebravo84:


Thems fightn words!
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Originally Posted By castlebravo84:
Originally Posted By spidey07:
This is why Nyquist is wrong.


Thems fightn words!


He was right for sign waves, but he’s still wrong for music.
Link Posted: Yesterday 9:23:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bronsonburner:

My current setup is JBL Studio 590s with 350 per channel going into them.  In a 12x14 room lol.  No sub needed.  One of the main benefits of moving to the country was not fearing the cops being called on me for loud music.  

PS If anyone cares, the JBL studio 5 series is a great "budget" line.  Designed by the great Greg Timbers, a world-renowned audio engineer.  The looks aren't for everyone, but for the price I paid for mine, IDGAF.
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Originally Posted By Bronsonburner:
Originally Posted By Slare:
The turntable is the only thing I'd buy new, or of a well known nearly new vintage.

Everything else would be used, but I'm in a big metro area and great used gear can be found in terms of speakers/amps/AVRs.  Nobody wants tower speakers anymore, and lots of high end AVRs are dirt cheap due to old HDMI specs.  Separates are tougher but still a lot to be saved used.

Dedicated music system for me would be 2.0 with big towers and enough power behind them, no fussing with subs.

My current setup is JBL Studio 590s with 350 per channel going into them.  In a 12x14 room lol.  No sub needed.  One of the main benefits of moving to the country was not fearing the cops being called on me for loud music.  

PS If anyone cares, the JBL studio 5 series is a great "budget" line.  Designed by the great Greg Timbers, a world-renowned audio engineer.  The looks aren't for everyone, but for the price I paid for mine, IDGAF.


590's are a great bang for the buck when they go on sale.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/jbl-studio-590-speaker-review.47269/
Link Posted: Yesterday 11:33:31 PM EDT
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I recently upgraded speakers, so of course that triggered a desire to upgrade the rest of my system.

Think I'm gonna go with a Schitt stack. Thinking a Freya+ and a Vidar2. Might eventually toss in a Modus so I can add a Bluetooth receiver for when I don't feel like spinning wax.

Now the real question. And I'm sure it's a contentious one. Replacement cartridges. Been a while, it's probably time. What's the current hotness? Current turntable is an SL-D1.
Link Posted: Yesterday 11:50:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wulfmann:
I have a Stanton T.90 USB from a dementia estate. Can someone tell me if that is crap-OK-good-great, whatever ??????
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It's basically a digital turntable which is kind of an oxymoron. It's not the worst one in the world but you can buy a couple Pioneer models for about the same money that will absolutely out perform it in every way possible.

Stanton and Numark used to offer some serious alternatives to the Technics 1200 for those on a budget, but in the last 20 years they've mostly made the same empty plastic shell full of chinese parts that everyone else offers.

For a lot of vinyl users, your Stanton would be just fine. Most people are more concerned with the looks of their setup than performance. That is why you see so many expensive home systems that are still a belt drive turntable. You are literally trusting the sound of your music to a rubber band and a tiny motor, you will not get consistency. The only people who should be using belt drives are brand new DJs learning to back spin and that's just do they don't fuck up a decent direct drive table.

For people who listen to their music on their phone, their phone hooked up to a home or car system or use "Beats" headphones they don't really listen to quality sound anyway so they can pretty much listen to anything.

For people who have a system set up so clean that vinyl sounds better than most people's CDs at an outdoor or indoor event, choice of turntable is a serious consideration. My vintage SB-S409s will clown most speaker towers that people have in their homes, but people buy shit based on looks not how things sound. It's all I need to listen to music anywhere in my house and I don't go near 11. And if people are trying to sleep I've got some nice BA studio monitors that actually sound better than some home systems I've heard.

So it really does come back to expectations, what condition your vinyl is in and how you listen to music. You can easily get there on the OPs budget, you just have to spend the money in the right place. And you can spend three times as much and still have impressive looking shit audio, but it will look cool. Futuristic looking amps, speakers with a dozen 8 inch woofers and zero midrange capability and a seriously Sharper Image belt driven turntable with glass platter.

Another consideration, I bought my 1200s in 1984, they were in heavy use to the mid 90s and they still work perfectly. I am on my second set of cartridges. Prior to that I had a pair of used SL-210s that were basically my "training wheels" tables.

Link Posted: Yesterday 11:57:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: Today 12:53:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subnet:

There are too many.

I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right.

Here are a couple off my SL-D2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY
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Is it me or are your tables pitched way down? Looking at the strobe running backwards.
Link Posted: Today 7:55:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 6EQUJ5:
It's basically a digital turntable which is kind of an oxymoron. It's not the worst one in the world but you can buy a couple Pioneer models for about the same money that will absolutely out perform it in every way possible.

Stanton and Numark used to offer some serious alternatives to the Technics 1200 for those on a budget, but in the last 20 years they've mostly made the same empty plastic shell full of chinese parts that everyone else offers.

Another consideration, I bought my 1200s in 1984, they were in heavy use to the mid 90s and they still work perfectly. I am on my second set of cartridges. Prior to that I had a pair of used SL-210s that were basically my "training wheels" tables.
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I bought a Technics in 1977 and it worked perfectly over the decades.
I don't know what model it was but it was top of the line in 77 like my HK twin power amp I bought with it
When I moved in 2013 I literally assumed it was worthless and threw it in the trash
I am beginning to think I made a mistake.
Link Posted: Today 10:06:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subnet:

There are too many.

I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right.

Here are a couple off my SL-D2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By Lothbrok:
Now the real question. And I'm sure it's a contentious one. Replacement cartridges. Been a while, it's probably time. What's the current hotness? Current turntable is an SL-D1.

There are too many.

I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right.

Here are a couple off my SL-D2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY

That’s one that had come up a few times in my search. Good to hear you’ve had good experiences. Think I’ll pick one up.
Link Posted: Today 10:26:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: Today 11:00:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok:

That’s one that had come up a few times in my search. Good to hear you’ve had good experiences. Think I’ll pick one up.
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By Lothbrok:
Now the real question. And I'm sure it's a contentious one. Replacement cartridges. Been a while, it's probably time. What's the current hotness? Current turntable is an SL-D1.

There are too many.

I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right.

Here are a couple off my SL-D2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY

That’s one that had come up a few times in my search. Good to hear you’ve had good experiences. Think I’ll pick one up.


You can't go wrong with it, Subnet is giving great advice here. I have one on my Technics SL-Q2.

It seems that people who service turntables really like these old technics and would take them any day over any of the uturns or projeks or linns. They don't make em like they used to unless you spend a God awful amount of money. An SL-Q2 or SL-D2 can be picked up for cheap if you keep your eyes open.
Link Posted: Today 12:23:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: Today 12:41:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
If I had to buy a brand new turntable right now, I'd pick up a Fluance RT81+. It ticks all of the important boxes that matter, and it looks nice. $300.

If they sold it without a cartridge (since I already have ones I like), I'd buy it that way. But they don't.
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Originally Posted By wildturkey09:
Originally Posted By Lothbrok:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By Lothbrok:
Now the real question. And I'm sure it's a contentious one. Replacement cartridges. Been a while, it's probably time. What's the current hotness? Current turntable is an SL-D1.

There are too many.

I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right.

Here are a couple off my SL-D2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY

That's one that had come up a few times in my search. Good to hear you've had good experiences. Think I'll pick one up.


You can't go wrong with it, Subnet is giving great advice here. I have one on my Technics SL-Q2.

It seems that people who service turntables really like these old technics and would take them any day over any of the uturns or projeks or linns. They don't make em like they used to unless you spend a God awful amount of money. An SL-Q2 or SL-D2 can be picked up for cheap if you keep your eyes open.
If I had to buy a brand new turntable right now, I'd pick up a Fluance RT81+. It ticks all of the important boxes that matter, and it looks nice. $300.

If they sold it without a cartridge (since I already have ones I like), I'd buy it that way. But they don't.

Yeah but like…I bought this SL-D1 15 years ago for $25.
Link Posted: Today 12:43:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
If I had to buy a brand new turntable right now, I'd pick up a Fluance RT81+. It ticks all of the important boxes that matter, and it looks nice. $300.
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So an artist I like is only releasing stuff on Vinyl now. Thinking about picking up a turntable just so I can buy the records. Might regret it.

Also might have to switch out my amp for an amp/preamp combo from Schiit. And I need new headphone cables.

I think the Fluance just moved to the top of my list.

ETA: Also looking at the Audio-Technica AT-LP5X; I like that it has a USB-out if I want to make digital recordings
Link Posted: Today 12:59:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: Today 4:49:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
You're looking at the ring that shows speed at 45rpm. The ring that shoes 33 1/3rpm is down lower, and harder to see behind the strobe at that camera angle.
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Ok, couldn't remember on a D2. I was hoping I was wrong.
Link Posted: Today 7:12:39 PM EDT
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McIntosh
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Agreed

Link Posted: Today 7:15:32 PM EDT
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Agreed

https://i.imgur.com/fLimMZ3.jpeg
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Originally Posted By Yaguar:
McIntosh


Agreed

https://i.imgur.com/fLimMZ3.jpeg


Im a Martin Logan request owner. Panels dip to 1.2 ohm. I want McIntosh tube for the panels. The woofer will get solid state 600 watt.

What would you recommend?  Basically bi amp. Tube for panel, solid for woofer. Xover is 120 I believe. 2x4 foot panel.

Or should I just call McIntosh?
Link Posted: Today 7:29:25 PM EDT
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Golden Ears on Arfcom? Huh?
Link Posted: Today 7:51:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subnet:

There are too many.

I personally settled on an Audio-Technica VM540ML several years ago, after someone did me a favor and A/B tested a metric shit pile of different carts and recorded them. For me, it was the Goldilocks principle on performance and price. Juuuuuust right.

Here are a couple off my SL-D2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KScfDInrJLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMIq-HC5yY
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My Momma was a queen
A Dad I've never seen
Link Posted: Today 7:54:59 PM EDT
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Anyone remember quadraphonic?
Link Posted: Today 7:58:39 PM EDT
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Golden Ears on Arfcom? Huh?
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Been audiophile 30 plus years. It’s not the gear. It’s the reproduction of music that most have never experienced.

The gear, even modest gear makes it possible. That’s why analog turntable is making a comeback. 20 years and they’ve never heard a good stereo. Ever.
Link Posted: Today 8:02:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spidey07:


Im a Martin Logan request owner. Panels dip to 1.2 ohm. I want McIntosh tube for the panels. The woofer will get solid state 600 watt.

What would you recommend?  Basically bi amp. Tube for panel, solid for woofer. Xover is 120 I believe. 2x4 foot panel.

Or should I just call McIntosh?
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Originally Posted By ss2nv:
Originally Posted By Yaguar:
McIntosh


Agreed

https://i.imgur.com/fLimMZ3.jpeg


Im a Martin Logan request owner. Panels dip to 1.2 ohm. I want McIntosh tube for the panels. The woofer will get solid state 600 watt.

What would you recommend?  Basically bi amp. Tube for panel, solid for woofer. Xover is 120 I believe. 2x4 foot panel.

Or should I just call McIntosh?



Sounds to me like an opportunity to try out a couple of their MC901s...  

To be honest though, yeah, asking them for their take is probably the best path.
Link Posted: Today 8:08:45 PM EDT
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Bump, as I am looking into getting a decent turntable with a USB out, and can be hooked up to an older receiver with pre am input.
I listen to a lot of extreme and obscure metal and it is actually easier to get some of the albums on vinyl than any other media.
Link Posted: Today 8:20:16 PM EDT
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Anyone remember quadraphonic?
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Yes. I still have a few Discrete Quad 8 track tapes from back in '75 or so.
Don't have the player any longer. Had the pioneer receiver and quad reel to reel as well.
I downsized many years ago and sold off all the quad equipment.

Dark Side of the Moon was stunning in quad. (One of my remaining quad 8 tracks).
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