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Posted: 9/12/2024 12:02:30 AM EDT
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Isn't that the job of the Green Berets?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:22:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Luvman:
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Maybe the Seals didn't want the Green Berets to have all the fun?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:23:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Luvman:
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Running low on war fighters
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:24:39 AM EDT
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What exactly is a handful of Navy Seals going to do to stop a billion screaming Chinamen?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:26:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea] [#5]
Largely but technically it’s also part of NSW mission set

Originally Posted By Luvman:
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https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2012/january/seals-50-years-and-counting

Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:26:43 AM EDT
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Help train folks to make sure the transport ships never make the voyage intact?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:32:13 AM EDT
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That would be the Brown and Black Shoe Navy’s job then… not the Seals.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:33:33 AM EDT
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And they lost to the NVA.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:34:43 AM EDT
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I'm glad they are doing something. The loss of Taiwan would be a catastrophe.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:40:57 AM EDT
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Teaching them to write books and do podcasts?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:45:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavia:
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My thought too...if you need SEAL skills, it's too late
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:48:34 AM EDT
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They should be fucking up Cartel shit on the southern border. At least they aren't in Ukraine so that is good.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:52:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavia:
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Help map the beach LZs and give ideas on how to complicate any landing.  That was OG SEAL mission.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 12:53:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavia:
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Coordinate strikes by other assets.  Sort of like the SF guys on horse back did in Afghanistan.  They had guns, but their main weapons were a radio and laser designator.

I imagine for a war with china the assets they would be providing targeting for might be a bit more sophisticated that a fighter jet with some JDAM's or GBU's though.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:01:36 AM EDT
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In today’s day and age, I can’t imagine a beach invasion without massive bombardment first.  Trying to get invaders on a beach to secure it would result in an extremely high casualty rate given todays mines and rockets and subs and…

Always believed if the Chinese were going to take Taiwan it would have been before the 24 election with dementia Joe still in office.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:02:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavia:


That would be the Brown and Black Shoe Navy’s job then… not the Seals.
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Originally Posted By tac556:



Help train folks to make sure the transport ships never make the voyage intact?


That would be the Brown and Black Shoe Navy’s job then… not the Seals.


Maybe I should be more clear- train how to make sure the ships never leave the dockside?  Without a full blown declaration of war?


Also- they are good at recon from the ocean, and evaluating landing sites, so it would also make sense for them to evaluate what China might do during an invasion, so they know better how to defend, what to improve for defenses, etc.

Or maybe they were just bored and available, and Taiwan will take any help they can get?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:04:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By L2Free:
In today’s day and age, I can’t imagine a beach invasion without massive bombardment first.  Trying to get invaders on a beach to secure it would result in an extremely high casualty rate given todays mines and rockets and subs and…

Always believed if the Chinese were going to take Taiwan it would have been before the 24 election with dementia Joe still in office.
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They’re gonna do it after Harris is installed and we won’t do a fucking thing about it
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:11:56 AM EDT
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If China wants to take Taiwan, there’s nothing the US military can do to stop it. Taiwan isn’t Ukraine. The PRC Navy could easily seal off the island and then what is the US going to do? Airlift supplies across the Pacific or run the blockade? Nope… we just have to make sure we convince the Chinese to not use force… not a strong point of the Biden Harris Era.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:13:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sierradyne:


Maybe the Seals didn't want the Green Berets to have all the fun?
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Originally Posted By Luvman:
Isn't that the job of the Green Berets?


Maybe the Seals didn't want the Green Berets to have all the fun?


Naw, it's because they needed to write a book about it.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:13:26 AM EDT
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They’re gonna do it after Harris is installed and we won’t do a fucking thing about it
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Originally Posted By L2Free:
In today’s day and age, I can’t imagine a beach invasion without massive bombardment first.  Trying to get invaders on a beach to secure it would result in an extremely high casualty rate given todays mines and rockets and subs and…

Always believed if the Chinese were going to take Taiwan it would have been before the 24 election with dementia Joe still in office.


They’re gonna do it after Harris is installed and we won’t do a fucking thing about it

In that event, fuck Taiwan, we will be in our own fight for survival.

Can you imagine what the chess board would look like if that situation were added to the mix?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:21:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavia:


And they lost to the NVA.
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How many Seals did the NVA kill ?
How many NVA did the Seals kill ?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:28:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By gmtech:


How many Seals did the NVA kill ?
How many NVA did the Seals kill ?
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Who won the war?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 1:47:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Luvman:
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Probably not when it's largely a naval scenario.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 2:02:42 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 2:14:51 AM EDT
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One of the first training videos has already been leaked;
How to Use Hair Gel | Men's Grooming
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 2:28:54 AM EDT
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Is the book in print yet?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 3:37:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Keekleberrys:


Normally it is but they probably dont want to be killed.
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Originally Posted By Luvman:
Isn't that the job of the Green Berets?


Normally it is but they probably dont want to be killed.


I know deep down in your heart, there's a SEAL trying to get out... let him out... and let him apply some hair gel.


Link Posted: 9/12/2024 4:01:17 AM EDT
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Will Taiwan have enough hair gel and body oil to sustain the operation?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 4:02:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stump70:
Teaching them to write books and do podcasts?
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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 5:33:36 AM EDT
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Hair gel
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 5:35:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 797hp:


They’re gonna do it after Harris is installed and we won’t do a fucking thing about it
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China’s current strategy is definitely “wait and see” for the election.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 5:49:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavia:


And they lost to the NVA.
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Originally Posted By Pavia:


And they lost to the NVA.



USA lost to NVA due to Washington, DC, not the men on the ground.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 5:49:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavia:

Who won the war?
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Originally Posted By gmtech:


How many Seals did the NVA kill ?
How many NVA did the Seals kill ?

Who won the war?



The democrats in 1975.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 5:55:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Luvman:
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Don't get in the way of publicity.  Both units are too small to do much. You need the 101st if you want ass kicked.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:03:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By twistedcomrade:
They should be fucking up Cartel shit on the southern border. At least they aren't in Ukraine so that is good.
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Killing unarmed civilians would be the end result. Not a good plan. They would have a field day killing Orcs in Ukraine. Keeping them supplied with enough ammo would be the challenge. They are going to go thru a lot of it.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:04:07 AM EDT
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At what point in time did OPSEC and INFOSEC get tossed out?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:07:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavia:
If China wants to take Taiwan, there’s nothing the US military can do to stop it. Taiwan isn’t Ukraine. The PRC Navy could easily seal off the island and then what is the US going to do? Airlift supplies across the Pacific or run the blockade? Nope… we just have to make sure we convince the Chinese to not use force… not a strong point of the Biden Harris Era.
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You are dreaming. The strait between China and Taiwan would be the new Iron Bottom Sound with Chinese ships and equipment.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:11:19 AM EDT
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The democrats in 1975.
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They have an allergy to winning.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:11:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy:
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Who the mayor is of Taipei would have no direct impact on the USA.

The chips will still flow.

A war wouldn’t be in the best interest of the USA
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:13:57 AM EDT
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Makes sence,  the most vital issue for Taiwan will be for US and international public support.  The seals are masters of self promotion and PR.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:14:36 AM EDT
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The democrats in 1975.
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I was gonna say hippies.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:23:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavia:
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Have you ever seen Rambo?
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:24:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DirkericPitt:
Makes sence,  the most vital issue for Taiwan will be for US and international public support.  The seals are masters of self promotion and PR.
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If china starts using “influencers” to put out anti Taiwan articles and propaganda you’ll see the other party start to protest and claim Taiwan has/is:

Bio labs

Money laundering

Child trafficking

Deep state playground

All you have to do is look at the FSB’s use of American “alternate media” to push their propaganda and points.

Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:25:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By L2Free:
In today’s day and age, I can’t imagine a beach invasion without massive bombardment first.  Trying to get invaders on a beach to secure it would result in an extremely high casualty rate given todays mines and rockets and subs and…

Always believed if the Chinese were going to take Taiwan it would have been before the 24 election with dementia Joe still in office.
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Are you kidding? It’s China's wettest dream to have KumHolla in office when they make their move, but if Trump wins my money says that they’re gonna go for it on Thanksgiving when we’re all distracted and long before Trump gets inaugurated
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:46:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By L2Free:
In today’s day and age, I can’t imagine a beach invasion without massive bombardment first.  Trying to get invaders on a beach to secure it would result in an extremely high casualty rate given todays mines and rockets and subs and…

Always believed if the Chinese were going to take Taiwan it would have been before the 24 election with dementia Joe still in office.
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The PRC's best bet is to wait another 10 years while the U.S. transitions back into being a mere regional power.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 7:07:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ARDunstan:



The democrats in 1975.1965
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FIFY

On topic: Do any of you who complain about the SEAL’s use of hair gel understand how difficult is is to get laid in San Diego without being properly coiffed?

I can tell you, it’s not easy. Oh, sure, you can bench 400 lbs and swim 5 miles but, if you don’t have “the look”, you go home alone.

Do we really want that fate for these guys? I think not.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 7:14:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pavia:
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Well, it is SEAL team 6. Add in Chuck Norris and Taiwan can invade China.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 7:26:54 AM EDT
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If not said already probably to destroy all the high end wafer fabs.
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