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12/5/2025 10:12:32 PM EDT
So I recently rendered a bunch of bear fat into grease.  I have repeatedly been told that it makes great biscuits and pie crusts.

Wife and I both tried to make some recipes we got online.
Both came out powdery. Not flakey or soft.
Like powder.


What am I doing wrong?
Recipe I used.
12/5/2025 10:45:04 PM EDT
[#1]
Buy a bag of White Lily Self Rising Flour and follow the directions on the bag.
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12/5/2025 11:26:27 PM EDT
[#2]
I’ve never used or had access to bear fat but I’ve made a lot of biscuits and I use more than 1 cup of buttermilk in 2 1/2 of flour . Not sure if that’s your problem but it’s all I have.
12/6/2025 1:57:51 AM EDT
[#3]
"powdery' leads one to guess your liquid, be it milk or butter milk is lacking in quantity or percentage of fat is less than needed.

Couple of things......... put  the biscuits on the baking pan allow them to rest for 10 minutes or so prior to egg washing  the tops,  and baking.
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12/6/2025 3:01:31 AM EDT
[#4]
2 cups flour
4 TSP Baking Powder
1/4 TSP Baking Soda
3/4 TSP Salt
2 Tablespoons of Butter
2 Tablespoons of shortening
1 cup Buttermilk

450. 20 min

Sorry….no Bears around here.
12/6/2025 4:05:33 AM EDT
[#5]
Substitute the rendered bear fat for the shortening or lard. You have to use whole milk not 2% crap or you can use buttermilk. You may have to adjust the amount of bear lard.
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12/6/2025 2:39:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Never used bear lard, just hog lard or bacon grease.

But I'd cut back on amount if lard you used and increase a little bit of liquid/milk.
12/6/2025 3:25:53 PM EDT
[#7]
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Originally Posted By trails-end:
Buy a bag of White Lily Self Rising Flour and follow the directions on the bag.
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White Lily does make the best biscuits if you can find it.
12/6/2025 3:58:32 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By trails-end:
Buy a bag of White Lily Self Rising Flour and follow the directions on the bag.
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This. I use self rising White Lilly, buttermilk, and crisco. No recipe. Mix it by hand.
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12/28/2025 10:27:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Please, just to humor me, make some bear fat flour tortillas
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12/29/2025 2:35:50 PM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By dcs12345:
Please, just to humor me, make some bear fat flour tortillas
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That’s on the list.  I just gotta figure out a recipe.  

Made a pie crust for Christmas.  It was great.
12/31/2025 5:43:55 PM EDT
[#11]
Never made biscuits with animal fat...

With butter, you want the butter to be VERY COLD.  You want chunks of butter in the biscuits as they bake.  Key to fluffy delicious biscuits right there.  

We freeze the butter and then grate it with a cheese grater.  Works great.
2/8/2026 1:07:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By eclark53520:
Never made biscuits with animal fat...

With butter, you want the butter to be VERY COLD.  You want chunks of butter in the biscuits as they bake.  Key to fluffy delicious biscuits right there.  

We freeze the butter and then grate it with a cheese grater.  Works great.
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came here to post this. also, I work the cold fat into the flour by hand and mix in the liquid the same way. the less you handle the dough the softer your biscuits will be. Allow your dough to rest for 15-30 minutes after mixing to let it hydrate and allow the gluten to relax. I generally form it into a rectangle or square according to your baking pan, about 1/2-3/4 inch thick, slice it into squares and bake it that way. if you use a biscuit cutter, don't twist it when cutting biscuits as that will 'seal' the edges and not allow them to rise as much.
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2/8/2026 1:35:37 PM EDT
[#13]
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Originally Posted By trails-end:
Buy a bag of White Lily Self Rising Flour and follow the directions on the bag.
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This is the way...

The prep is also key
Hot oven 475, cold prep flour, all ingredients,  baking pan and rolling pin
Grate frozen unsalted butter, don't over mix, it needs little butter chunks.
Butter milk optional, I use whole milk
2/8/2026 2:30:09 PM EDT
[#14]
I made a mistake buying some self rising flour from Walmart, their brand.  It doesn’t make a great biscuit.  Same as what the OP complained about,no flakey texture just a universal fine crumb that falls apart.   Not enough pop to raise them much either.

I wondered if I in fact underworked the dough.   They say to work biscuit dough as little as possible so that’s what I did.

I make fine biscuits with regular flour, milk or butter milk, combination of butter and crisco or butter and lard.   Just not with this self rising crap.
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2/8/2026 8:19:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TEXASROOTERSBROTHER][Edited] [#15]
Todays biscuits

Used a little bit too much butter milk. But I find if it is a little too wet it makes good biscuits.
4 cups flour white wings all purpose flour. Also great for tortillas  nice soft flour
One teaspoon sugar
Two teaspoons salt
One half teaspoon baking soda
3 tablespoons baking powder
8 tablespoons butter grated cold
2 cups butter milk
450 17 min

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2/9/2026 6:54:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: EBR666][Edited] [#16]
For the new biscuit bakers.

There is a major difference between White Lilly and all most all other flowers. White Lilly is made from southern wheat which is a soft wheat grain flower grown only in the south. The others are made from hard wheat grain. That's why southern biscuits are so fluffy and lite.

You MUST use White Lilly if you want to duplicate grandma's southern biscuits.

White Lily flour comes from soft winter wheat, low in protein and gluten. When a liquid is introduced to glutenin and gliadin, the proteins in flour, they swell and develop elasticity that's enhanced when worked by hand or machine. Gluten development provides flour-based food with structure, which is beneficial for French baguettes, homemade pasta and the like. But biscuits are quick breads, ideally much softer than their well-kneaded cousins. Even with a gentle touch, biscuits made from all-purpose flour can emerge tough and dense.

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2/9/2026 7:00:01 AM EDT
[#17]
Bear fat has a very high rendering heat.  My thought is your fat is not liquifying.
2/9/2026 7:12:49 AM EDT
[#18]
It warms my heart to see all the White Lily comments. It's all my mom would use, and it's what I use and it DOES make a difference.

2c White Lily Self Rising Flour
1/2 TSP salt
1/3c fat (I use butter or lard)
3/4c whole milk or buttermilk
6/12/2026 3:05:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hands][Edited] [#19]
2 cups SRF
1 cup buttermilk
1/4 cup shortening


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6/12/2026 4:19:05 PM EDT
[#20]
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Originally Posted By 50-140:
"powdery' leads one to guess your liquid, be it milk or butter milk is lacking in quantity or percentage of fat is less than needed.

Couple of things......... put  the biscuits on the baking pan allow them to rest for 10 minutes or so prior to egg washing  the tops,  and baking.
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Egg wash you say? Sacrilege! Heresy! Git a rope!

Only bacon grease goes on top and bottom of buttermilk biscuits. As someone already posted, if you're not using White Lily flour, you're doing it wrong. It really is shocking how much better it is than any regular or premium flour for biscuits.

Flaky biscuits come from cans, but they should be light and fluffy otherwise if made right. Never tried subbing bear fat for lard, would be interesting to try.

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