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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:00:21 PM EDT
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Wheeled out? Maybe an actual AD, and not negligence?
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:01:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:02:02 PM EDT
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An inanimate object did that?
Is that kinda like when someone says “The gun just went off”? |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:04:07 PM EDT
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I wish I could be the government.
Be at home, get drunk. Discharge rifle into wall or through glass. Cops come. Me: "I am aware of the incident and am currently investigating it. I have no further information at this time." Cops: "Okay cool man" |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:06:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish I could be the government. Be at home, get drunk. Discharge rifle into wall or through glass. Cops come. Me: "I am aware of the incident and am currently investigating it. I have no further information at this time." Cops: "Okay cool man" Well, to be fair, if you have an ND in your armed-and-operational attack helicopter, the cops are probably going to be pretty damn polite about inquiring about it no matter who you are. 
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:07:05 PM EDT
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Weight on Gear safety interlock? I don't know how the Apache HW/SW is configured.
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:07:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, to be fair, if you have an ND in your armed-and-operational AH-64, the cops are probably going to be pretty damn polite about inquiring about it no matter who you are. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wish I could be the government. Be at home, get drunk. Discharge rifle into wall or through glass. Cops come. Me: "I am aware of the incident and am currently investigating it. I have no further information at this time." Cops: "Okay cool man" Well, to be fair, if you have an ND in your armed-and-operational AH-64, the cops are probably going to be pretty damn polite about inquiring about it no matter who you are. That's a fair point. So.... Basically.... buy an Apache. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:11:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weight on Gear safety interlock? I don't know how the Apache HW/SW is configured. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:15:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The squat switches should prevent this kind of thing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Weight on Gear safety interlock? I don't know how the Apache HW/SW is configured. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:18:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish I could be the government. Be at home, get drunk. Discharge rifle into wall or through glass. Cops come. Me: "I am aware of the incident and am currently investigating it. I have no further information at this time." Cops: "Okay cool man" #ruralmasterrace |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:19:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weight on Gear safety interlock? I don't know how the Apache HW/SW is configured. I have no idea how the cannon on the Apache works, but the mini-gun on our MH53 helicopters could fire--unintentionally--if someone rotated the barrel assembly, and there was a live round in one of the six chambers. While it is an electrically-driven gun, rotating it manually still causes all of the 'actions' of firing the gun. I spent a long night at Kirtland looking for a stray round unintentionally fired by a gunner who was rotating the barrels well after the helicopter had shut down, and there was no power applied to the aircraft. It just had not been cleared after the gun run, and there was still one round in one of the chambers. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:22:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I have a ND in my house no cops are coming unless I call them. #ruralmasterrace Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wish I could be the government. Be at home, get drunk. Discharge rifle into wall or through glass. Cops come. Me: "I am aware of the incident and am currently investigating it. I have no further information at this time." Cops: "Okay cool man" #ruralmasterrace The ducks will rat you out. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:35:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no idea how the cannon on the Apache works, but the mini-gun on our MH53 helicopters could fire--unintentionally--if someone rotated the barrel assembly, and there was a live round in one of the six chambers. While it is an electrically-driven gun, rotating it manually still causes all of the 'actions' of firing the gun. I spent a long night at Kirtland looking for a stray round unintentionally fired by a gunner who was rotating the barrels well after the helicopter had shut down, and there was no power applied to the aircraft. It just had not been cleared after the gun run, and there was still one round in one of the chambers. I recall (last year or two) a mini-gun malfunctioned at a shooting range. A fellow was manually rotating the barrels from the muzzle to inspect them when one discharged into his dome. That's when i learned they were mechanically fired! |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:37:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I recall (last year or two) a mini-gun malfunctioned at a shooting range. A fellow was manually rotating the barrels from the muzzle to inspect them when one discharged into his dome. That's when i learned they were mechanically fired! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have no idea how the cannon on the Apache works, but the mini-gun on our MH53 helicopters could fire--unintentionally--if someone rotated the barrel assembly, and there was a live round in one of the six chambers. While it is an electrically-driven gun, rotating it manually still causes all of the 'actions' of firing the gun. I spent a long night at Kirtland looking for a stray round unintentionally fired by a gunner who was rotating the barrels well after the helicopter had shut down, and there was no power applied to the aircraft. It just had not been cleared after the gun run, and there was still one round in one of the chambers. I recall (last year or two) a mini-gun malfunctioned at a shooting range. A fellow was manually rotating the barrels from the muzzle to inspect them when one discharged into his dome. That's when i learned they were mechanically fired! Yup. I wonder if the rotary cannon on the 64 works off the same principle. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:40:05 PM EDT
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Having a round go off, where there are not supposed to be rounds going off, will pucker you up for a bit.
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:40:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. I wonder if the rotary cannon on the 64 works off the same principle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have no idea how the cannon on the Apache works, but the mini-gun on our MH53 helicopters could fire--unintentionally--if someone rotated the barrel assembly, and there was a live round in one of the six chambers. While it is an electrically-driven gun, rotating it manually still causes all of the 'actions' of firing the gun. I spent a long night at Kirtland looking for a stray round unintentionally fired by a gunner who was rotating the barrels well after the helicopter had shut down, and there was no power applied to the aircraft. It just had not been cleared after the gun run, and there was still one round in one of the chambers. I recall (last year or two) a mini-gun malfunctioned at a shooting range. A fellow was manually rotating the barrels from the muzzle to inspect them when one discharged into his dome. That's when i learned they were mechanically fired! Yup. I wonder if the rotary cannon on the 64 works off the same principle. AH-64 doesn't have a rotary cannon. It's a chain gun. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:41:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no idea how the cannon on the Apache works, but the mini-gun on our MH53 helicopters could fire--unintentionally--if someone rotated the barrel assembly, and there was a live round in one of the six chambers. While it is an electrically-driven gun, rotating it manually still causes all of the 'actions' of firing the gun. I spent a long night at Kirtland looking for a stray round unintentionally fired by a gunner who was rotating the barrels well after the helicopter had shut down, and there was no power applied to the aircraft. It just had not been cleared after the gun run, and there was still one round in one of the chambers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Weight on Gear safety interlock? I don't know how the Apache HW/SW is configured. I have no idea how the cannon on the Apache works, but the mini-gun on our MH53 helicopters could fire--unintentionally--if someone rotated the barrel assembly, and there was a live round in one of the six chambers. While it is an electrically-driven gun, rotating it manually still causes all of the 'actions' of firing the gun. I spent a long night at Kirtland looking for a stray round unintentionally fired by a gunner who was rotating the barrels well after the helicopter had shut down, and there was no power applied to the aircraft. It just had not been cleared after the gun run, and there was still one round in one of the chambers. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:46:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I recall (last year or two) a mini-gun malfunctioned at a shooting range. A fellow was manually rotating the barrels from the muzzle to inspect them when one discharged into his dome. That's when i learned they were mechanically fired! The M230 doesn't work that way, it is a chain gun, with electrically fired primers. Unless it is in battery and an electric pulse is sent to initiate the primer it won't go off. This AD sounds like an electric malfunction. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:53:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The M230 doesn't work that way, it is a chain gun, with electrically fired primers. Unless it is in battery and an electric pulse is sent to initiate the primer it won't go off. This AD sounds like an electric malfunction. You sure its electrically primed? The M242 has a firing pin. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:10:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I have a ND in my house no cops are coming unless I call them. #ruralmasterrace Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wish I could be the government. Be at home, get drunk. Discharge rifle into wall or through glass. Cops come. Me: "I am aware of the incident and am currently investigating it. I have no further information at this time." Cops: "Okay cool man" If I have a ND in my house no cops are coming unless I call them. #ruralmasterrace I can vouch for the rural master race ....It's been pheasant season around here, and all I've heard for like 2 weeks is gun shots from all over the valleys and farms for like 20 square miles. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:15:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wheeled out? Maybe an actual AD, and not negligence? Oh no dad, will the gun fire if we're still on the ground? Kharn |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:19:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh no dad, will the gun fire if we're still on the ground? Kharn A maverick missile will... Apparently.  Failed To Load Title Think you can handle the music? 
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:20:18 PM EDT
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That site:
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:21:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The ducks will rat you out. 
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:23:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I have a ND in my house no cops are coming unless I call them. #ruralmasterrace Let me guess: you've had one before |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:24:59 PM EDT
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Duck narcs? Now I understand the gray duck Johnny Reno is always talking about.
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:26:31 PM EDT
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Hanger Pop
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:27:55 PM EDT
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MH53 at Hurlburt put a 50 cal round out across Gator Lakes Golf Course, from the ground, about seven o'clock one evening. Function check gone astray.
Posted this before...we qualified a new GACs troop on the 105mm boresite, and a couple of weeks later he did his first with a new 3-level in two. Gunship launched, got out over the range and fired. Dead quiet on the ship's intercom for about 30 seconds, and then a calm voice, "Did anybody see where that went?". They called knock-it-off and came home. Hotwash on that event was colorful. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:36:49 PM EDT
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I guess that beats the A6 that accidentally ejected a drop tank on a campground outside of NAS OCEANA back in the 80s. Or was it the one that dropped practice bombs on a campground near Disney park in Orlando. I remember both of those incidents back in the 80s.
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:37:59 PM EDT
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In 2018 a Belgian mechanic fired the cannon on an F16 into another F16, destroying it.
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:39:18 PM EDT
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How many people needed new underwear after that one?
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Posted: 11/6/2020 6:41:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wheeled out? Maybe an actual AD, and not negligence? According to the article, it has suffered a malfunction during a live-fire exercise the night before so could very well be a true AD. Also from the article about a separate incident: "A report by the UK Airprox Board deemed the collision risk was low 'because each captain was visual with the other aircraft'." In normal-person speak, they could see each other. |
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Posted: 11/7/2020 3:59:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. I wonder if the rotary cannon on the 64 works off the same principle. And if memory serves me, they're electrically fired.  |
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Posted: 11/7/2020 4:06:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In 2018 a Belgian mechanic fired the cannon on an F16 into another F16, destroying it. Oops |
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Posted: 11/7/2020 4:11:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AH-64 doesn't have a rotary cannon. It's a chain gun. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have no idea how the cannon on the Apache works, but the mini-gun on our MH53 helicopters could fire--unintentionally--if someone rotated the barrel assembly, and there was a live round in one of the six chambers. While it is an electrically-driven gun, rotating it manually still causes all of the 'actions' of firing the gun. I spent a long night at Kirtland looking for a stray round unintentionally fired by a gunner who was rotating the barrels well after the helicopter had shut down, and there was no power applied to the aircraft. It just had not been cleared after the gun run, and there was still one round in one of the chambers. I recall (last year or two) a mini-gun malfunctioned at a shooting range. A fellow was manually rotating the barrels from the muzzle to inspect them when one discharged into his dome. That's when i learned they were mechanically fired! Yup. I wonder if the rotary cannon on the 64 works off the same principle. AH-64 doesn't have a rotary cannon. It's a chain gun. My mistake, you are right—I had a Cobra pictured in my head. |
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Posted: 11/7/2020 4:14:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish I could be the government. Be at home, get drunk. Discharge rifle into wall or through glass. Cops come. Me: "I am aware of the incident and am currently investigating it. I have no further information at this time." Cops: "Okay cool man" 
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Posted: 11/7/2020 4:42:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weight on Gear safety interlock? I don't know how the Apache HW/SW is configured. ^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ One of the first questions we ask when doing a egress on airframes, is there a weight on wheels safety. Answer is ALWAYS yes |
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Posted: 11/7/2020 4:56:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oops Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In 2018 a Belgian mechanic fired the cannon on an F16 into another F16, destroying it. Oops That’s a shitty day at work Only one technician had hearing impairment Wonder if the guy who fired it has an f16 sticker on his car to commemorate his kill. But  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/7/2020 5:30:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many people needed new underwear after that one? All of them |
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Posted: 11/7/2020 11:14:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I have a ND in my house no cops are coming unless I call them. #ruralmasterrace I live in the city/suburbs and if I have an ND in my house no cops are getting called unless I call them... because my neighbors don't ever seem to call the cops when I shoot on purpose in my house anyways. #suppressedmasterrace #basementbullettraplife |
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Posted: 11/7/2020 11:33:26 AM EDT
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In before a kid finds the expended round and the cops shut down the entire country to “investigate”.
Also, in before the investigation results in the banning of all sharp implements in England. TC |
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Posted: 11/7/2020 11:47:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a fair point. So.... Basically.... buy an Apache. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wish I could be the government. Be at home, get drunk. Discharge rifle into wall or through glass. Cops come. Me: "I am aware of the incident and am currently investigating it. I have no further information at this time." Cops: "Okay cool man" Well, to be fair, if you have an ND in your armed-and-operational AH-64, the cops are probably going to be pretty damn polite about inquiring about it no matter who you are. That's a fair point. So.... Basically.... buy an Apache. And have all your neighbors buy Apaches so you have an intimidatingly high fire superiority status. |
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