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Posted: 8/19/2024 3:41:27 PM EST
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Well, that sucks.
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Posted: 8/20/2024 2:49:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: That is regrettable. He was very ill, and that doesn't sound good. Some of my favorite members here have been dudes I disagreed with honestly. Arguing points honestly is the best part of internet forums. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By Sierra5: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Any updates on HawkTheSlayer? I knew he took ill. Him and I disagreed on firearms a lot, but were always cordial and I enjoyed talking with him. Not banned, hasn't logged in in over a month That is regrettable. He was very ill, and that doesn't sound good. Some of my favorite members here have been dudes I disagreed with honestly. Arguing points honestly is the best part of internet forums. |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 3:04:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer: banned retread under multiple names Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer: Originally Posted By 67Firebird: Doesn't come up in the Member list. Shows in B+W list, but when I click on it I get a different name. I don't know if that means a name change, or something else, so I can't answer.  banned retread under multiple names Why is that such a big deal? If they get banned, they're done. If they decide to make a new account and they behave themselves, why can't they stay? You're banning people based on IP addresses. That's nuts. It's such a weird process that only old forums make. I've seen some guys banned from here who offered great info, but they had "controversial" opinion and got booted. Short of them promoting actual hate ideologies, you shouldn't ban people based on their opinions. |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 3:36:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gary_Plauche: Why is that such a big deal? If they get banned, they're done. If they decide to make a new account and they behave themselves, why can't they stay? You're banning people based on IP addresses. That's nuts. It's such a weird process that only old forums make. I've seen some guys banned from here who offered great info, but they had "controversial" opinion and got booted. Short of them promoting actual hate ideologies, you shouldn't ban people based on their opinions. Bolded point is usually the issue. |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 3:38:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gary_Plauche: Why is that such a big deal? If they get banned, they're done. If they decide to make a new account and they behave themselves, why can't they stay? You're banning people based on IP addresses. That's nuts. It's such a weird process that only old forums make. I've seen some guys banned from here who offered great info, but they had "controversial" opinion and got booted. Short of them promoting actual hate ideologies, you shouldn't ban people based on their opinions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gary_Plauche: Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer: Originally Posted By 67Firebird: Doesn't come up in the Member list. Shows in B+W list, but when I click on it I get a different name. I don't know if that means a name change, or something else, so I can't answer. banned retread under multiple names Why is that such a big deal? If they get banned, they're done. If they decide to make a new account and they behave themselves, why can't they stay? You're banning people based on IP addresses. That's nuts. It's such a weird process that only old forums make. I've seen some guys banned from here who offered great info, but they had "controversial" opinion and got booted. Short of them promoting actual hate ideologies, you shouldn't ban people based on their opinions. |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 5:17:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZNetEng: People aren't banned for their opinions. There are several posts in this thread covering this. Unless it's an opinion about the administration/moderation of the site. That is specifically against CoC. |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 5:25:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Unless it's an opinion about the administration/moderation of the site. That is specifically against CoC. I am not a smart man. But it seems to me, other than dick pics, site bashing is the quickest way to earn persona non grata status. |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 5:34:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gary_Plauche: Why is that such a big deal? If they get banned, they're done. If they decide to make a new account and they behave themselves, why can't they stay? You're banning people based on IP addresses. That's nuts. It's such a weird process that only old forums make. I've seen some guys banned from here who offered great info, but they had "controversial" opinion and got booted. Short of them promoting actual hate ideologies, you shouldn't ban people based on their opinions. if they come back and behave we don't care. we really haven't used IP matching in a long time it nowhere close to accurate and we have better tools to confirm things. people get removed for breaking the rules, not opinions. we don't catch them until they become a problem again and give us a reason to dig on histories. |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 5:46:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZNetEng: Truth, and it happens rarely anymore. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZNetEng: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By Sierra5: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Any updates on HawkTheSlayer? I knew he took ill. Him and I disagreed on firearms a lot, but were always cordial and I enjoyed talking with him. Not banned, hasn't logged in in over a month That is regrettable. He was very ill, and that doesn't sound good. Some of my favorite members here have been dudes I disagreed with honestly. Arguing points honestly is the best part of internet forums. I mean you have to assume most people signed up to argue and discuss firearms.  I remember people used to ask newbies to post guns |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 9:43:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Unless it's an opinion about the administration/moderation of the site. That is specifically against CoC. Originally Posted By Low_Country: I am not a smart man. But it seems to me, other than dick pics, site bashing is the quickest way to earn persona non grata status. |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 9:46:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I mean you have to assume most people signed up to argue and discuss firearms. I remember people used to ask newbies to post guns Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By AZNetEng: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By Sierra5: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Any updates on HawkTheSlayer? I knew he took ill. Him and I disagreed on firearms a lot, but were always cordial and I enjoyed talking with him. Not banned, hasn't logged in in over a month That is regrettable. He was very ill, and that doesn't sound good. Some of my favorite members here have been dudes I disagreed with honestly. Arguing points honestly is the best part of internet forums. I mean you have to assume most people signed up to argue and discuss firearms. I remember people used to ask newbies to post guns Yep. I'll be the 1st to admit that. Intellectual dishonesty during the discussion/argument is annoying as hell. |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 9:49:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZNetEng: While I agree, Even that isn't typically a 1 and done move. Repeated behavior is the primary culprit. Yeah, I mean, I’m like the most unpopular poster here because of some of my opinions. But unpopular opinions aren’t against the rules. Knock on wood. I give nothing but kudos to staff/mods. Hard work, thankless job. And I know I’ve been asked to tone it down, or stop being a clown from time to time. And that’s appreciated. |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 9:52:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZNetEng: Yep. I'll be the 1st to admit that. Intellectual dishonesty during the discussion/argument is annoying as hell. Many of us like disagreement in discussion… that’s the most fun and where you learn. Simple. Too many take disagreement as some sort of offense. I’ve become a big fan of Charlie Kirk recently. One thing he says is that when the conversations stop, the violence starts. And I agree. |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 9:55:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: AZNetEng]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Many of us like disagreement in discussion that's the most fun and where you learn. Simple. Too many take disagreement as some sort of offense. I've become a big fan of Charlie Kirk recently. One thing he says is that when the conversations stop, the violence starts. And I agree. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By AZNetEng: Yep. I'll be the 1st to admit that. Intellectual dishonesty during the discussion/argument is annoying as hell. Many of us like disagreement in discussion that's the most fun and where you learn. Simple. Too many take disagreement as some sort of offense. I've become a big fan of Charlie Kirk recently. One thing he says is that when the conversations stop, the violence starts. And I agree. |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 11:59:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
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[Deleted]
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Posted: 8/21/2024 9:04:14 PM EST
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Atomic_Ferret? Haven’t seen him in a long time.
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Posted: 8/21/2024 9:36:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer: if they come back and behave we don't care. we really haven't used IP matching in a long time it nowhere close to accurate and we have better tools to confirm things. people get removed for breaking the rules, not opinions. we don't catch them until they become a problem again and give us a reason to dig on histories. Can you share what kind of tools you have? Are we talking like typing style type stuff? Just curious if you are able to share. If not, I understand. Thanks. |
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Posted: 8/21/2024 10:08:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RandyLahey01: Can you share what kind of tools you have? Are we talking like typing style type stuff? Just curious if you are able to share. If not, I understand. Thanks. 
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Posted: 8/21/2024 11:48:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By perfectsilence: Atomic_Ferret? Haven’t seen him in a long time. That spelling doesn't show up. "atomicferret" logged in today. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 9:56:14 AM EST
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Steyr Aug (sp?): when did he get banned? I know it's been a while.
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Posted: 8/22/2024 10:39:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gary_Plauche: Why is that such a big deal? If they get banned, they're done. If they decide to make a new account and they behave themselves, why can't they stay? You're banning people based on IP addresses. That's nuts. It's such a weird process that only old forums make. I've seen some guys banned from here who offered great info, but they had "controversial" opinion and got booted. Short of them promoting actual hate ideologies, you shouldn't ban people based on their opinions. If they came back and behaved, nobody would ever have a reason to find out that they were retreads. Turns out that most don’t behave themselves any better on their 2nd or 20th attempt than they did the first time. It’s been quite a while since IP addresses were particularly useful for IDing retreads, though once in a while it does help. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 4:33:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joker581: If they came back and behaved, nobody would ever have a reason to find out that they were retreads. Turns out that most don’t behave themselves any better on their 2nd or 20th attempt than they did the first time. It’s been quite a while since IP addresses were particularly useful for IDing retreads, though once in a while it does help. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joker581: Originally Posted By Gary_Plauche:Why is that such a big deal? If they get banned, they're done. If they decide to make a new account and they behave themselves, why can't they stay? You're banning people based on IP addresses. That's nuts. It's such a weird process that only old forums make. I've seen some guys banned from here who offered great info, but they had "controversial" opinion and got booted. Short of them promoting actual hate ideologies, you shouldn't ban people based on their opinions. If they came back and behaved, nobody would ever have a reason to find out that they were retreads. Turns out that most don’t behave themselves any better on their 2nd or 20th attempt than they did the first time. It’s been quite a while since IP addresses were particularly useful for IDing retreads, though once in a while it does help. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 4:56:37 PM EST
[#23]
40xb? I think that was it. Wolverine or something avatar?
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Posted: 8/22/2024 5:01:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Merlin: Steyr Aug (sp?): when did he get banned? I know it's been a while. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 5:07:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: WILSON]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joker581: If they came back and behaved, nobody would ever have a reason to find out that they were retreads. Turns out that most don’t behave themselves any better on their 2nd or 20th attempt than they did the first time. It’s been quite a while since IP addresses were particularly useful for IDing retreads, though once in a while it does help. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joker581: If they came back and behaved, nobody would ever have a reason to find out that they were retreads. Turns out that most don’t behave themselves any better on their 2nd or 20th attempt than they did the first time. It’s been quite a while since IP addresses were particularly useful for IDing retreads, though once in a while it does help. Originally Posted By FivespeedF150: The site bends over backwards to give retreads another shot. They could implement an auto-lock algorithm that'd be pretty damn accurate if they wanted to. They're usually obvious in the first few posts, because they come back to do the same thing that got them banned in the first place, namely start or throw themselves into the middle of controversial or charged thread topics and start shit. That's also why they wind up banned again, eventually. Two good, accurate posts.  |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 5:29:14 PM EST
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hdhogman (Willie).
He and I used to talk HD's and swap bike pictures but he fell off the board last year (7/23) I do know he had health issues and I think he may have passed away but haven't been unable to confirm that. MLH&R my brother. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 8:23:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By osprey21: 2007 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By osprey21: Originally Posted By Merlin: Steyr Aug (sp?): when did he get banned? I know it's been a while.  Is he the same Seyr Aug on M4Carbine.net? I just happened along that site a couple days ago and noticed the same username. Quite prolific over there as well, if it's him. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 9:52:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By posifour11: 40xb? I think that was it. Wolverine or something avatar? Name change possibly? |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 9:58:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: Name change possibly? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: Originally Posted By posifour11: 40xb? I think that was it. Wolverine or something avatar? Name change possibly? Yep |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 10:05:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By osprey21: hdhogman (Willie). He and I used to talk HD's and swap bike pictures but he fell off the board last year (7/23) I do know he had health issues and I think he may have passed away but haven't been unable to confirm that. MLH&R my brother. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 10:12:00 PM EST
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Blain has gone missing.
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Posted: 8/22/2024 10:15:17 PM EST
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We need to get back to posting avatars with names.
Getting much harder to search for them now. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 10:27:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Grendelsbane: Name change possibly? Originally Posted By Scrote: Yep Good. Two best mods in my opinion, in order: Krpind 40xb Krpind was turbo let the boys go. You're only getting screwed for wild ass violations. You talk shit and some other guy does? Zero fucks given. 40xb was more heavy handed, but seemed to be in touch with the board. So kinda like a populist. We're never going to get this shit perfect |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 10:29:29 PM EST
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What’s going on in here?
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Posted: 8/22/2024 11:19:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KZ45: What's going on in here? Questions and answers. |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 5:59:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Good. Two best mods in my opinion, in order: Krpind 40xb Krpind was turbo let the boys go. You're only getting screwed for wild ass violations. You talk shit and some other guy does? Zero fucks given. 40xb was more heavy handed, but seemed to be in touch with the board. So kinda like a populist. We're never going to get this shit perfect Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By Grendelsbane: Name change possibly? Originally Posted By Scrote: Yep Good. Two best mods in my opinion, in order: Krpind 40xb Krpind was turbo let the boys go. You're only getting screwed for wild ass violations. You talk shit and some other guy does? Zero fucks given. 40xb was more heavy handed, but seemed to be in touch with the board. So kinda like a populist. We're never going to get this shit perfect |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 6:20:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZNetEng: I used to chat with 40 in the pit off and on. Always liked him. 40 is a great guy. got to meet him a couple of years ago on his way through the area. really enjoyed talking to him. |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 6:35:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer: 40 is a great guy. got to meet him a couple of years ago on his way through the area. really enjoyed talking to him. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer: Originally Posted By AZNetEng: I used to chat with 40 in the pit off and on. Always liked him. 40 is a great guy. got to meet him a couple of years ago on his way through the area. really enjoyed talking to him. |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 2:51:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Questions and answers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Originally Posted By KZ45: What's going on in here? Questions and answers. Here’s one. Where is the counter that used to tell us how many people either were, or we’re not in a forum at any given time? |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 3:06:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KZ45: Here’s one. Where is the counter that used to tell us how many people either were, or we’re not in a forum at any given time? Upper right hand corner. |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 3:07:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KZ45: Here's one. Where is the counter that used to tell us how many people either were, or we're not in a forum at any given time? |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 3:33:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Good. Two best mods in my opinion, in order: Krpind 40xb Krpind was turbo let the boys go. You're only getting screwed for wild ass violations. You talk shit and some other guy does? Zero fucks given. 40xb was more heavy handed, but seemed to be in touch with the board. So kinda like a populist. We're never going to get this shit perfect Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By Grendelsbane: Name change possibly? Originally Posted By Scrote: Yep Good. Two best mods in my opinion, in order: Krpind 40xb Krpind was turbo let the boys go. You're only getting screwed for wild ass violations. You talk shit and some other guy does? Zero fucks given. 40xb was more heavy handed, but seemed to be in touch with the board. So kinda like a populist. We're never going to get this shit perfect I liked krpind too. I was also not surprised in the least when he was shown the door. 40xb was cool too. |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 4:06:40 PM EST
[#43]
Damn the new EE.
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Posted: 8/23/2024 5:36:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KZ45: Damn the new EE. At the risk of derailing the thread, why? |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 5:52:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sheltot: At the risk of derailing the thread, why? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sheltot: Originally Posted By KZ45: Damn the new EE. At the risk of derailing the thread, why? Maybe he wants to be a missing member.
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Posted: 8/23/2024 6:02:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sheltot: At the risk of derailing the thread, why? The mods have been good about whipping this thread back in the right direction.... |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 6:14:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sheltot: At the risk of derailing the thread, why? Originally Posted By daveo: The mods have been good about whipping this thread back in the right direction....  
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Posted: 8/23/2024 7:19:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bajagringo: Maybe he wants to be a missing member. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bajagringo: Originally Posted By sheltot: Originally Posted By KZ45: Damn the new EE. At the risk of derailing the thread, why? Maybe he wants to be a missing member. Lol |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 7:38:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThat mean you are watching me? 
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Posted: 8/23/2024 7:40:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daveo: That mean you are watching me? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daveo: That mean you are watching me? Naw, he just likes the whipping part!
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