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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:50:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JustinU235]
38 years ago there was graphite on the roof.
I was 11 and remember watching this unfold when they finally told us about it.  More photos here.  https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Chernobyl-Tour-Pic-Heavy--updates-page-3-and-6-/5-2515933/ |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:53:58 PM EDT
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No. No need to panic. There was a fire. It's mostly put out. The system control tank exploded.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:57:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:02:22 PM EDT
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 I was stationed in Naples. Cloud of deathe missed me by this much: 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:06:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:09:19 PM EDT
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I was a kid living in Berlin at the time it blew. My dad told me their NBC equipment was going crazy as they had it out for an alert after it blew.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:10:39 PM EDT
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Not great. Not terrible
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:14:17 PM EDT
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I was four years old.
The culture in that country blew that fucking reactor up, and humanity paid the price. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:14:45 PM EDT
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I was in diapers. 86 was a hell of a year though
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:16:45 PM EDT
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If back then, they had the same drone technology we have today, could the drones survive the radiation to provide real-time information?
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:17:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Quintin: I was four years old. The culture in that country blew that fucking reactor up, and humanity paid the price. Word. That's the main point of the Chernobyl series. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:19:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7: If back then, they had the same drone technology we have today, could the drones survive the radiation to provide real-time information? interesting question |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:19:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustinU235: Word. That's the main point of the Chernobyl series. This arrived in the mail just the other day: 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:25:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Slabhanger: interesting question I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:27:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ww1415: This arrived in the mail just the other day: https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/eacf2b52-3a0b-4e74-ac30-3d3450bb8232.dc2b63c9fc30e2b84ba3ba7f55dd48f4.jpeg?odnWidth=1000&odnHeight=1000&odnBg=ffffff Masterpiece story, visuals, and audio on those disks. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:29:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustinU235: Masterpiece story, visuals, and audio on those disks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustinU235: Originally Posted By ww1415: This arrived in the mail just the other day: https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/eacf2b52-3a0b-4e74-ac30-3d3450bb8232.dc2b63c9fc30e2b84ba3ba7f55dd48f4.jpeg?odnWidth=1000&odnHeight=1000&odnBg=ffffff Masterpiece story, visuals, and audio on those disks. 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:30:17 PM EDT
[#16]
 Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster: News Report From April 28, 1986 |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:33:20 PM EDT
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The timing of your trip was great, not terrible.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:34:20 PM EDT
[#18]
I remember watching the story unfold as well
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:36:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Delta10mm: I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Delta10mm: Originally Posted By Slabhanger: interesting question I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. For real? I'd love to hear an explanation for that. I know nothing about radiation and barely more about avionics but I wouldn't have guessed that. Crazy. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:45:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: For real? I'd love to hear an explanation for that. I know nothing about radiation and barely more about avionics but I wouldn't have guessed that. Crazy. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By Delta10mm: Originally Posted By Slabhanger: interesting question I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. For real? I'd love to hear an explanation for that. I know nothing about radiation and barely more about avionics but I wouldn't have guessed that. Crazy. The helicopter crashed because it hit a construction crane - that was in October 1986: https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/168706 Bio of one of the Chernobyl helicopter pilots (not one who was on the crashed helicopter): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykola_Melnyk After the April 1986 Chernobyl disaster, Melnyk was directed to work in the cleanup operations. Lethal levels of radiation created after the Reactor #4 fire prevented ground liquidator teams from most operations on the roof of the power plant building. However, helicopters could reach and leave the area above the building within seconds, thus inflicting less health damage to the personnel on board. They were employed to cover building openings with sandbags and lead slabs, install necessary equipment, commence aerial photography and atmospheric radioactive contamination monitoring. Melnyk, among others, was assigned to such missions as an experienced civilian helicopter pilot. He flew 46 sorties over the reactor building, for a combined total duration of 52 hours. The most important of those sorties was the so-called "Operation Igla" (Operation Needle), the June 19, 1986, installation of a giant 18-metre (59 ft)-long radiation probe on top of the building by means of a precision drop from a Kamov coaxial rotor helicopter. This operation was described as dropping a "needle" into a precise spot; it was considered especially difficult. When Melnyk successfully completed the operation during a training exercise in Moscow, the observers broke into applause. Melnyk did not know the purpose of the training, however, until several days later when he flew to Kyiv to undertake the actual mission. The first attempt to insert the "needle" into the actual reactor was foiled by a frozen crust above the target; Melnyk succeeded on the third try. According to the "Remembrance Book" by the Chornobyl Museum, Melnyk participated in the 'liquidator' operations on site of the disaster from May 20, 1986, until September 9, 1986. In 1994, he underwent two surgeries related to health problems attributed to his radiation exposure. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:55:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7: If back then, they had the same drone technology we have today, could the drones survive the radiation to provide real-time information? Some of the robots used to perform tasks after the explosion failed due to radiation, so I'd wager drones might not have been that useful. Cameras were affected by radiation as well; the distortion in the famous elephant's foot photo was supposedly due to radiation affecting the camera/film: Chernobyl is a terrible but fascinating story. I can remember seeing it on the news after coming home from school one day, which, I think, was several days after the actual accident. I vaguely recall footage of people shoveling debris from the top of a roof. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:56:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By showmeballer: The timing of your trip was great, not terrible.  |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:00:16 PM EDT
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I was sailing with the New Jersey battle group somewhere in the Indian Ocean when that went down. We read about in it message traffic.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:02:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Delta10mm: I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Delta10mm: Originally Posted By Slabhanger: interesting question I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. How hot was it above the reactor? I'd think wind and updraft would be a problem for a drone more than radiation. But I don't own a drone so this is pure speculation |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:03:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Delta10mm: I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Delta10mm: Originally Posted By Slabhanger: interesting question I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. Uhh yeah the chopper blade hit a crane / crane cable. That's what caused it to fall out of the sky. But, radiation doses to the pilots weren't great. But I'm betting drone electronics would have had a hard time in some of the hottest zones, yeah. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:35:26 PM EDT
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Wasn't NFA Hughes amendment about to kick in too?
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:38:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Wasn't NFA Hughes amendment about to kick in too? May 19, 1986 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:39:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ww1415: May 19, 1986 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ww1415: Originally Posted By mancow: Wasn't NFA Hughes amendment about to kick in too? May 19, 1986 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act So it was a shitty time all around. 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:46:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: So it was a shitty time all around. Yeah losing new machineguns for civilians was a huge negative, but other than if you were in the vicinity of Chernobyl after the explosion, 1986 was a pretty damn good year to experience:  ABC Tall Ships Liberty Weekend NYC July 4 1986 (Part 1) |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:49:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Delta10mm: I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Delta10mm: Originally Posted By Slabhanger: interesting question I have years of avionics background. I'd say, doubtful. If the chopper could not fly over without falling out of the sky then I doubt a drone could. I'm sure someone smarter than I can speak to the actual science of it. https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q11162.html Ionizing radiation breaks down the materials within the electrical equipment. For example, when wiring is exposed to gamma rays, no change is noticed until the wiring is flexed or bent. The wire's insulation becomes brittle and will break and may cause shorts in the equipment. The effect on diodes and computer chips is a bit more complex. The gamma rays disrupt the crystalline nature of the inside of the electronic component. Its function is degraded and then fails as more gamma radiation exposure is received by the electronic component. I seem to remember that some sort of remotely operated space rover was brought in (being radiation hardened) and even that broke down at some point. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 12:00:51 AM EDT
[#31]
It was the 80s
I didn't pay much attention. I do remember being pissed about the machine gun ban
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 1:00:01 AM EDT
[#32]
86 was a hard year with the Challenger explosion and Chernobyl happening months apart.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 1:12:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: 38 years ago there was graphite on the roof. I was 11 and remember watching this unfold when they finally told us about it. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/IAEA_02790015_%285613115146%29.jpg/1200px-IAEA_02790015_%285613115146%29.jpg More photos here. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Chernobyl-Tour-Pic-Heavy--updates-page-3-and-6-/5-2515933/ I was working out of Lost Wages out in the sand. The main characters were so serious. I knew it was going to suck for Europe, but I didn't think it was the end of the world. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 1:35:52 AM EDT
[#34]
Was in the 7th grade in Montana and we were worried about our Alaskan and Norwegian family.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 1:49:42 AM EDT
[#35]
I was just about to be born on the other side of the world.
Heard a lot about the disaster though entirely from the perspective of New Zealand's hardcore anti-nuclear community. Their willful misinformation poisoned my view of fission technology until I reached an important point in my life where I had to sit down and ask. "Was everything I was taught a lie?" Turned out most of it was. Stumbled upon this channel the other day.  Pre-Chernobyl History: Rise of the RBMK (1954-1973) |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 1:57:31 AM EDT
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I was two weeks old. I never did finish the mini-series. Brave men that sorted that shit out.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 2:17:44 AM EDT
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I was 16 months old at that time.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 2:39:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: 38 years ago there was graphite on the roof. I was 11 and remember watching this unfold when they finally told us about it. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/IAEA_02790015_%285613115146%29.jpg/1200px-IAEA_02790015_%285613115146%29.jpg More photos here. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Chernobyl-Tour-Pic-Heavy--updates-page-3-and-6-/5-2515933/ This man is delusional. Take him to the infirmary. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 2:51:59 AM EDT
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We all died and the world was left uninhabitable for millennia. It was terrible.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 3:11:52 AM EDT
[#40]
I was stationed in Germany, it sucked for awhile.
Supposedly it didn’t affect me although I am not allowed to donate blood 
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Posted: 4/27/2024 3:43:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USCG_CPO: I was stationed in Germany, it sucked for awhile. Supposedly it didn’t affect me although I am not allowed to donate blood Wasn’t that more to do with Mad Cow disease? |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 3:56:58 AM EDT
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You’re delusional.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:12:02 AM EDT
[#43]
RIP those who looked directly into the core
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:14:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: I was a kid living in Berlin at the time it blew. My dad told me their NBC equipment was going crazy as they had it out for an alert after it blew. I was a kid living in Munich at the time. Nobody was sure what was going on and nobody was talking but we were told to pack a suitcase and have it ready. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:28:44 AM EDT
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What would be the public thought and opinion of nuclear power today if Chernobyl never happened?
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:31:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DD1801: You’re delusional. Take him to the infirmary. I was a few months away from being born. 1986 was a calamitous year for humanity. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:32:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Boomer]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Quintin: What would be the public thought and opinion of nuclear power today if Chernobyl never happened? Three Mile Island was already a thing at the time. As well as decades of anti-nuclear propaganda. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:35:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rheinmetall792]
[#48]
Comrade Dyatlov!
The series is absolute genius. The writing, technical aspects, music, acting. Very rewatchable and hopefully teachable. I have a basement home theater and it gets very claustrophobic during the scene when the brave men are walking through the dark corridors to turn the valve with the dosimeter screaming louder and louder in surround sound.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:35:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boomer: Three Mile Island was already a thing at the time. As well as decades of anti-nuclear propaganda. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boomer: Originally Posted By Quintin: What would be the public thought and opinion of nuclear power today if Chernobyl never happened? Three Mile Island was already a thing at the time. As well as decades of anti-nuclear propaganda. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:37:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boomer: Wasn’t that more to do with Mad Cow disease? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boomer: Originally Posted By USCG_CPO: I was stationed in Germany, it sucked for awhile. Supposedly it didn’t affect me although I am not allowed to donate blood Wasn’t that more to do with Mad Cow disease? Or that weekend in amsterdam? |
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