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Posted: 9/15/2024 5:13:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Bro...its not a subpar single lap Car. The car sucks when it has to repeatedly do it because its tire management sucks, and lecluck loves to fuck it up...or Ferrari can't form a strat to save their lives. You are the one being selective at this point as always. Vettel used to spin a lot with Ferrari. Maybe it's their setup philosophy? |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 5:17:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RRA_223: Vettel used to spin a lot with Ferrari. Maybe it's their setup philosophy? Vettel was good with Ferrari, until that damn Hockenheim rainy day... he was lost to F1 from that day on... |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 5:30:54 PM EST
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Jesus this thing really is illegal, they are getting DRS without using DRS. Leclerc never had a chance.
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Posted: 9/15/2024 5:37:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Jesus this thing really is illegal, they are getting DRS without using DRS. Leclerc never had a chance.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162647/GXhpbpyXoAAMv2A_jpeg-3323431.JPG The wing did flex The other wings look like high downforce wings that I didn’t think they used in BAKU. |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 5:52:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: tifosi]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: The race coverage (video) is the same for everyone. I was commenting on the world feed going to Norris early and often and then cutting to Hamilton in 15th for extended periods. It got uncomfortably creepy. |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 6:02:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Jesus this thing really is illegal, they are getting DRS without using DRS. Leclerc never had a chance.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162647/GXhpbpyXoAAMv2A_jpeg-3323431.JPG Dang it. We agreed from the get go. Prolly gonna rain in Vegas ;) |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 6:18:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: Dang it. We agreed from the get go. Prolly gonna rain in Vegas ;) lol |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 6:29:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: Shung]
[#8]
 I bet they don’t test it going up-, That thing opens like a 33% drs 
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Posted: 9/15/2024 6:33:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThat comment about Newey and Stroll. 
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Posted: 9/15/2024 6:37:44 PM EST
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It seems like this is the second race in the row where the leaders had such a gap that they were able to forgo tire changes and as a result, they locked some points-paying positions behind them into sticking with that strategy. Norris and Verstappen were the exception with Lando gambling and winning and Red Bull making the wrong decision that cost them in the end.
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Posted: 9/15/2024 6:50:10 PM EST
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As a McLaren fan I don't want to admit this, but on one of the first few laps as Oscar was hunting Charles on the main straight, there was a shot from behind of the cars and I was looking for Oscar's DRS to open.
But as I watched, it looked to me like Oscar's wing had already opened. It was narrow, and I thought to myself it didn't open very wide, it must be the low-downforce wing, and I need to learn where the activation point is. As soon as I finished that thought, the DRS activated for real and I had an "OOOOhhhhhh" moment. Since the car is through parc ferme I imagine the results will stand, but we'll have some type of clarification or notice from F1 before Singapore. |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 7:00:25 PM EST
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After watching the replay, that wreck being SAI and PER was all SAI fault. PER didn't have to move because SAI had enough space but drifted over to the left.
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Posted: 9/15/2024 7:08:41 PM EST
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That was a good race. It's fun that it's competitive again.
Really gotta feel for Checo, puts in work and almost grabs the podium to have some dude take him out for no reason |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 7:10:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spyk3: After watching the replay, that wreck being SAI and PER was all SAI fault. PER didn't have to move because SAI had enough space but drifted over to the left. SAI drifted slightly - but Perez, being the car mostly behind, could have easily avoided that contact and inevitable outcome. Most everyone who isn't trading dick pics with Christian Horner would agree to that. See also: every side by side racing incident for the past century... Where the lead driver tried to close the door on the guy just behind and force them to let out. The car in front has the right to the racing line, the car behind has a right to a car's width. Perez shunted his P4 finish because he's an idiot. Siding with him will just encourage further outbursts! |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 7:11:37 PM EST
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feeling bad for checo today.
guy finally has a good weekend and to go out like that has to suck. |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 8:18:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: I don't think that's true at all. Both complain like mad on the radio even when things are going well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: Originally Posted By D_J: Here’s the difference. Lewis whines the tires are bad as he sets the fastest sector time and moves up positions. Max complains the car isn’t working as he’s dropping places. I don't think that's true at all. Both complain like mad on the radio even when things are going well. You left out the part where I was quoting & replying to someone who specifically mentioned the radio today. |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 8:19:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RRA_223: You're amazing, Nostradamus!  If you replace Verstappen with Sainz, and Hamilton with Checo, I'm like 60% right in 80% of the races. |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 8:20:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: I've always believed that most drivers that aren't passing their way into the points are probably complaining and making racing driver excuses. We probably just hear more from Lewis and now Max because they're world champions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Originally Posted By D_J: Originally Posted By chaas67: So who was whining on the radio more at today’s race; Max or Lewis? 🤔 Here’s the difference. Lewis whines the tires are bad as he sets the fastest sector time and moves up positions. Max complains the car isn’t working as he’s dropping places. I've always believed that most drivers that aren't passing their way into the points are probably complaining and making racing driver excuses. We probably just hear more from Lewis and now Max because they're world champions. See above. I agree that they're all basically whiny bitches when they aren't happy. Probably because they're all roughly the same size as the average woman. 
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Posted: 9/15/2024 8:31:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_J: See above. I agree that they're all basically whiny bitches when they aren't happy. Probably because they're all roughly the same size as the average woman. Whats funny is.....if anyone in this thread was in their shoes...they would be EXACTLY the same as them in terms of bitching etc. |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 8:33:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Whats funny is.....if anyone in this thread was in their shoes...they would be EXACTLY the same as them in terms of bitching etc. I'd just be enjoying the experience and thinking about all the hot supermodels I'd be getting BJs from after my last place finish!
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Posted: 9/15/2024 8:41:00 PM EST
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Tell me that ain't fucking a mini DRS at this point. |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 10:04:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RRA_223: SAI drifted slightly - but Perez, being the car mostly behind, could have easily avoided that contact and inevitable outcome. Most everyone who isn't trading dick pics with Christian Horner would agree to that. See also: every side by side racing incident for the past century... Where the lead driver tried to close the door on the guy just behind and force them to let out. The car in front has the right to the racing line, the car behind has a right to a car's width. Perez shunted his P4 finish because he's an idiot. Siding with him will just encourage further outbursts! Just let everyone pass you without contesting it. You too can be a back marker. |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 10:10:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123:
Tell me that ain't fucking a mini DRS at this point. It passes inspection.
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Posted: 9/15/2024 10:12:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: It passes inspection. There is no way that passed inspection. |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 10:24:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Whats funny is.....if anyone in this thread was in their shoes...they would be EXACTLY the same as them in terms of bitching etc. Well I know I'd bitch if I was in their shoes, I wear a size 14 and I'm a foot taller than most of those manlets. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:01:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: There is no way that passed inspection. Oscar and Lando were not DQed... they passed. Whether or not the FIA invents further rules to prevent bendy body parts remains to be seen. Until then, fix your fucking car. Although RB did look decent today. They screwed up the car for Max to be that far behind Checo.
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:46:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RRA_223: I'd just be enjoying the experience and thinking about all the hot supermodels I'd be getting BJs from after my last place finish! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RRA_223: Originally Posted By poison123: Whats funny is.....if anyone in this thread was in their shoes...they would be EXACTLY the same as them in terms of bitching etc. I'd just be enjoying the experience and thinking about all the hot supermodels I'd be getting BJs from after my last place finish!  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 5:13:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123:
Tell me that ain't fucking a mini DRS at this point. It’s a fucking joke. The rule is completely broken |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 6:06:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maroonfeather: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18518/IMG_1014_jpeg-3323731.JPG 😖 |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 6:07:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spyk3: After watching the replay, that wreck being SAI and PER was all SAI fault. PER didn't have to move because SAI had enough space but drifted over to the left. You cannot blame Perez for that. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 6:10:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: anesvick]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RRA_223: SAI drifted slightly - but Perez, being the car mostly behind, could have easily avoided that contact and inevitable outcome. Most everyone who isn't trading dick pics with Christian Horner would agree to that. See also: every side by side racing incident for the past century... Where the lead driver tried to close the door on the guy just behind and force them to let out. The car in front has the right to the racing line, the car behind has a right to a car's width. Perez shunted his P4 finish because he's an idiot. Siding with him will just encourage further outbursts! And I say this as someone who has disliked Perez since he came into the sport as a pay driver. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 6:14:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: Shung]
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Piastri admitted that if his overtake attempt on Leclerc failed Leclerc would have won the race with a certain margin.
I agree with that statement from what I saw. Charles claimed that he thought he would have been able to pass him again later, and didn’t want to cook his fresh tires immediately. Doesnt change the fact he should have defended on the inside though Maybe Charles didn’t know about McLaren extra drs at the time…. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 6:18:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: Shung]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anesvick: There is moving slightly, and suddenly slamming the door on someone, Sainz slammed the door, when he knew he was in traffic. I don't think Perez could have avoided him. And I say this as someone who has disliked Perez since he came into the sport as a pay driver. I believe you are wrong. Sainz didn’t slam anything and the onboard of his car clearly show that he does not slam or violently steer towards the left. https://youtube.com/shorts/x8Pkhcb47Yc?si=UsdqupFGxFPnUlK6 More like they both drifted towards Charles slipstream to get a tow. The only thing is that checo could see sainz position way better than sainz coild see checo |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 6:48:20 AM EST
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If I were Haas, I'd let Bearman take the wheel for the next race, just to make sure that he's really that good.
I like Magnussen, but Bearman looks to be much better, and one more race should confirm that. If so, let him finish out the year. Unlike most weeks, both Haas cars were doing well yesterday. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 7:09:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeJGA: Just let everyone pass you without contesting it. You too can be a back marker. Perez could have continued to pass by drifting right. He had the overtaking speed. Instead he was a DNF. Oops. Acting like drivers don't have to take corrective action to avoid wheel to wheel contact is insane. How many times has Checo butt fucked a wall this year? 4? 5? It's definitely not him! Sorry your girl lost. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 7:10:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maroonfeather: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18518/IMG_1014_jpeg-3323731.JPG Way to take it to a dark place! Gross. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 7:15:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: Oscar and Lando were not DQed... they passed. Whether or not the FIA invents further rules to prevent bendy body parts remains to be seen. Until then, fix your fucking car. Although RB did look decent today. They screwed up the car for Max to be that far behind Checo.Your full of shit, anyone who watches the sport for awhile knows that wing is illegal. We'll see what the challenges bring this week, but that wing is not legal. Its creating a mini DRS effect. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 7:23:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Your full of shit, anyone who watches the sport for awhile knows that wing is illegal. We'll see what the challenges bring this week, but that wing is not legal. Its creating a mini DRS effect. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Originally Posted By Mars87: Oscar and Lando were not DQed... they passed. Whether or not the FIA invents further rules to prevent bendy body parts remains to be seen. Until then, fix your fucking car. Although RB did look decent today. They screwed up the car for Max to be that far behind Checo.Your full of shit, anyone who watches the sport for awhile knows that wing is illegal. We'll see what the challenges bring this week, but that wing is not legal. Its creating a mini DRS effect.  |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 7:43:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: Mars87]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HRJ: He’s going through a phase. Red Bull has shit the bed, and now he’s hyper focused on other teams. Red Bull ran Newey out, so he’ll have plenty of time to adjust to mediocrity over the next few years. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 7:59:49 AM EST
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 Is McLaren's Mini DRS Trick Illegal Or Brilliant |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 8:25:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jmt1991: If I were Haas, I'd let Bearman take the wheel for the next race, just to make sure that he's really that good. I like Magnussen, but Bearman looks to be much better, and one more race should confirm that. If so, let him finish out the year. Unlike most weeks, both Haas cars were doing well yesterday. It's very risky. They're in a points fight. Right now Williams. If Bearman has a bad Sunday due to inexperience it won't pay off. But would he be any worse than K-Mag? |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 8:33:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: Esterhase]
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I think the FIA will be taking a look at that rear wing. Failing that, everyone else will use the same trick.
Autosport Given that the FIA will have seen the upper flap's leading edge rotating rearwards from the onboard footage (red arrow, inset), as it has been doing so for a number of races already this season, it would suggest the ruling body is happy that it's within the constraints currently posed by the regulations. Hmm |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 8:35:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_J: You left out the part where I was quoting & replying to someone who specifically mentioned the radio today. Max was very specific in this complaints. I thought it was interesting; he used to have a thing about the shift sync; he'd bang on about it constantly but it would not slow him down. I don't think I've heard that this year. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 8:47:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: I think the FIA will be taking a look at that rear wing. Failing that, everyone else will use the same trick. Yep, it has always been an arbitrary system of control with enforcement being based on producing the best show. There really isn’t any pure or righteous position to argue from on legality. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 9:52:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryThat guy conveniently left out an important section in the technical regs ... (For reference 3.10.10 is the DRS system)  |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 9:54:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: He’s going through a phase. Red Bull has shit the bed, and now he’s hyper focused on other teams. Red Bull ran Newey out, so he’ll have plenty of time to adjust to mediocrity over the next few years. He is right on the wing though. It clearly opens like a mini DRS. No doubt it passed the current tests but that doesn’t mean it’s legal and will stay. The Ferrari PU passed all the tests a few years ago. Remember how that ended ? |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:01:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Yep, it has always been an arbitrary system of control with enforcement being based on producing the best show. There really isn’t any pure or righteous position to argue from on legality. Fact is, it clearly goes against the spirit of the rule. That it passes the current tests is akin to the Ferrari PU passing the tests back then. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:02:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: Shung]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: That guy conveniently left out an important section in the technical regs ... (For reference 3.10.10 is the DRS system) https://i.postimg.cc/sgRC772n/Screenshot-2024-09-16-104956.jpg It’s clearly illegal What is nuts is that with their new floor Ferrari is currently the best car on the grid. After RB, McLaren, Mercedes…. What a year |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:20:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: I think the FIA will be taking a look at that rear wing. Failing that, everyone else will use the same trick. Autosport Hmm Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: I think the FIA will be taking a look at that rear wing. Failing that, everyone else will use the same trick. Autosport Given that the FIA will have seen the upper flap's leading edge rotating rearwards from the onboard footage (red arrow, inset), as it has been doing so for a number of races already this season, it would suggest the ruling body is happy that it's within the constraints currently posed by the regulations. Hmm The FIA has been happy with things in the past, until they weren't. Let's not pretend that the FIA isn't capricious. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:24:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: The FIA has been happy with things in the past, until they weren't. Let's not pretend that the FIA isn't capricious. Oh yes. It's out now, though, and the onus is on them to do something about it. |
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