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Is anyone interested in a race series? I can see 2 methods: 1. Ranked workouts: each week we choose a distance that C2 will rank, you have as many tries as you want to post a good time. Best rank wins the week. Kind of like a postal match, we can all row on our own schedule so it's easier to coordinate 2. Live races using the ergrace app. We'd choose a day and time, everyone would log on and we'd race live. Possible formats: - win and out heats. Winner of the first heat is overall winner, we run as many heats as we have entrants, the heat you win is your placing - miss and out heats. Last guy in each heat is dropped, last man to win a heat is overall winner - brackets/challenges A monthly cycle seems like a good pace. 1 race per week, possibly let everyone drop their worst week, and choose an overall winner for the month. That lets folks miss a week. 1 is definitely easier logistically, I'd propose we start running that way to get a group started, then start up live races. |
I know I'll never go home.
So set fire to your ships, and past regrets, and be free.
So set fire to your ships, and past regrets, and be free.
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Option 1 would be just that easy. You'd row the piece then hit the button to rank it. Then we'd compare rankings in the race thread Re rowing would be allowed, if someone posts a better score just row harder and beat them.  Live races are a little more complicated, because everyone would have to be online simultaneously |
I know I'll never go home.
So set fire to your ships, and past regrets, and be free.
So set fire to your ships, and past regrets, and be free.
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Originally Posted By -CUJO-: I’m slow.  We will haze you until you get faster. Or maybe we'll recruit slow people. Just remember you don't have to outrun the shark, just the guy in the next boat. |
I know I'll never go home.
So set fire to your ships, and past regrets, and be free.
So set fire to your ships, and past regrets, and be free.
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Originally Posted By ctfish15: Well that's a wrap on January. Does someone need to designate the team towards a February challenge? I *think* you just sign up for the challenge, but fspeed5onefifty might need to do some magic. The only one I saw for Feb is a vet's challenge. |
I know I'll never go home.
So set fire to your ships, and past regrets, and be free.
So set fire to your ships, and past regrets, and be free.
| I'm taking the rest of this week off, then I'll cook up a race series. I realized it's basically a time trial, but to make things more interesting we can re-row the piece if someone posts a better time. Should make for some decent competition, and most importantly, savage shit talking. |
I know I'll never go home.
So set fire to your ships, and past regrets, and be free.
So set fire to your ships, and past regrets, and be free.
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Yes, team challenges aren't every month. Unfortunately (but also fortunately, don't want to get burned out!). I think it's quarterly at best. I'll keep an eye out. There are individual challenges very frequently. ARFCOM ERGERS placed 27th out of 67 teams in the Virtual, 6-20 Participants category. Not bad, not bad! 1,332,454m total. |
on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
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Originally Posted By ctfish15: I ranked my 30min time and I'm 1300 of 1360 in my age/sex/weight. Fun times.  I did manage to row every day so far. 
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on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
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Originally Posted By ctfish15: I ranked my 30min time and I'm 1300 of 1360 in my age/sex/weight. Fun times. I did manage to row every day so far. Room to improve! Y'all inspired me and Im better now than on New Year's day. I've been reading the home gym picture thread. Lots of C2's in arfcom gyms, I expect all them in the races! |
I know I'll never go home.
So set fire to your ships, and past regrets, and be free.
So set fire to your ships, and past regrets, and be free.
| Different goals for different people. I'm new too. Started in January. I use time blocks as a goal. 7 minute warmup followed by a 1 minute break. Then 10 to 20 minute blocks with 1 minute breaks between them. I'm going to start throwing a race to 500m in once a week. That sprint stuff is tough for me so I should be doing it more often. lol. |
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I suggest we open the first race Sunday 3/3. Maybe a 2k? Every competitor posts their time after the workout. Fastest time wins bragging rights. Duplicate efforts are encouraged to increase the pace over 1 week until Sunday 3/10. Race closes with efforts complete by the same time as start. For example: Race open 3/3 10:10am CST Everyone throws down a best effort Some sandbagger accelerates Do another effort to match/beat Do as many as it takes Race close 3/10 10:10am CST Fastest human in the series calls the next race effort. |
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The World Erg Challenge is coming up as well. I'll update OP with it this afternoon, but looks similar to the January one. The Details Each team completes as many meters as they can collectively between 12:00 a.m. March 15 and 11:59 p.m. April 15.[/li] RowErg, SkiErg and BikeErg meters only (no on water/on snow meters please). You can combine meters from each machine to reach the challenge goal. Note: BikeErg meters are counted as half when applied to the challenge. This is a team challenge. You must belong to a team to participate. This is not the same as your club affiliation in your profile. See "Information for Team Members" below. Please visit the Joining A Team for more information on how to join a team. Important: Team members need to confirm they intend to take part in each challenge. You do this from the Team member page. Please visit the Starting and Managing a Team page for more information on how to setup and run a team. Teams must consist of at least two (2) people. Team members will not appear on challenge boards until at least two people are taking part. Important deadline: Complete the following tasks by March 30 23:59 GMT (19:59 ET) or your team will not be enrolled in the challenge and/or your team members' meters will not count for the challenge: All team members must be added to your team. Team members who have their own logbooks must indicate in their logbooks that they are actively participating in the current challenge. (See the Team member page for more information.) Meters must be entered online. Because of the large number of participants in the challenge, we cannot accept results via phone, fax or email. We suggest that any members who have access to the internet create their own profile so that they can enter their own results. Meters completed each week should be entered no later than midnight on Friday of that week. This works on the honor system. It makes it fair and fun for everyone if you can watch the progress of the teams that you are competing against. Concept2 reserves the right to ask for proof of meter totals if they seem suspect and to disqualify any team from the challenge who we feel is not participating honestly. Deadline for entering meters: April 18 23:59 GMT (19:59 ET).[/li] |
on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
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Originally Posted By Cixelsyd: How do we sign up to the new world challenge? I clicked join challenge but don't see any confirmation that I did anything. lol. @Cixelsyd you should see the same thing on your team member page with the option to "leave challenge" instead of join. See image in OP spoilers. Probably more will appear tomorrow when it goes live. 5 signups so far! |
on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
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2024 World Erg Challenge is March 15–April 15. Let's get back at it! |
on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
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Up to 11 signups already! You all do read my emails. 
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on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
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Originally Posted By Cixelsyd: I started a break about mid-Feb. I lost motivation after the January challenge ended.Sooo that half hour last night was tough!  
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on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
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I’ve had a combo of being lazy as shit and having large meals just before my usual cardio block. I may have to start waking up in AM to exercise like a crazy person.
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on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
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Chris is killing it! On another note, I tested positive for Covid a couple of months ago. It was a really mild case and just felt like a very, very minor cold for a day or so. I took a week off of the rower just to take it easy. Prior to that, I was averaging 2:15 - 2:16 500m split times for 7,000m workouts. After Covid, I’m at 2:19 - 2:20 500m split times for that same distance; an increase of 4-5 seconds/500m which is huge. My heart rate spikes rather quickly and stays up there for the whole workout. Strange. |
“I don't know what the prize is. I just wanna win.” - Usernames
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Originally Posted By -CUJO-: Chris is killing it! On another note, I tested positive for Covid a couple of months ago. It was a really mild case and just felt like a very, very minor cold for a day or so. I took a week off of the rower just to take it easy. Prior to that, I was averaging 2:15 - 2:16 500m split times for 7,000m workouts. After Covid, I’m at 2:19 - 2:20 500m split times for that same distance; an increase of 4-5 seconds/500m which is huge. My heart rate spikes rather quickly and stays up there for the whole workout. Strange. Hope you get your baseline back. I got sick right after my last post, some dry cough thing going around but a serious sore throat and spaced-out head. So my meters sit at 3k. I suck at life.
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on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
3k added to the board at a leisurely 2:40ish split average. But I didn’t die. 
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on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
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Originally Posted By FivespeedF150: 3k added to the board at a leisurely 2:40ish split average. But I didn’t die. For me, the fact I get into the seat is more important than how fast I row in that seat. Seriously. A lifetime has shown me the importance of establishing routine if I want something to stick. Speaking of which, does anyone here know what they're doing? I am shifting training gears in a little less than a week, and I know what I'm going to change, but I honestly have no idea where I'm going to take it, or how far. Wouldn't mind some conversation. My background in track only goes so far ...
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Originally Posted By vim: For me, the fact I get into the seat is more important than how fast I row in that seat. Seriously. A lifetime has shown me the importance of establishing routine if I want something to stick. Speaking of which, does anyone here know what they're doing? I am shifting training gears in a little less than a week, and I know what I'm going to change, but I honestly have no idea where I'm going to take it, or how far. Wouldn't mind some conversation. My background in track only goes so far ...I haven't put much thought in goals because, like you, I had no idea what I wanted out of a little cardio. The machine has sat for about 5 yrs with little use. The virtual team challenge gave me a reason to at least do something with it. In the beginning I started with 500m and a minute rest intervals. All of my joints hurt and I thought this is going to suck. I was determined to stick with it. Then I went to 1000m intervals, then took the big leap to see if I could go 5000m in one push. Then improve split times a little. I guess the answer for me is do more. Even pushing for 5 or 10 second improvements on split times increases the cardio. I'm down to two bad knees and some odd grip pain, like a trigger finger irritation. Overall, good enough to gut it out and keep going. I'm pushing for a goal of 10k m in one sitting regardless of splits, just sitting on that thing for that distance would be a huge accomplishment for me. Then I can work to improve times. I'm old and my body has been abused but I am determined to do more. |
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Originally Posted By vim: For me, the fact I get into the seat is more important than how fast I row in that seat. Seriously. A lifetime has shown me the importance of establishing routine if I want something to stick. Speaking of which, does anyone here know what they're doing? I am shifting training gears in a little less than a week, and I know what I'm going to change, but I honestly have no idea where I'm going to take it, or how far. Wouldn't mind some conversation. My background in track only goes so far ...Maybe a program like this will get you off to a good start? Beginner Pete Plan I started this awhile back but never finished the program. I think that the most I ever did at one time was 9K meters. I settled into doing 8K meters every day and managed to injure my elbow. It took 8 months for it to heal. Now I just do 7K meters 4X week and that seems to be working for me. I know intervals work on strength and speed but I never really got into that but probably will in the future. My goal at my age is to just be able to pull a consistent 150 watts (roughly 2:12/500m) over long distances. I doubt that I’ll get there but I’ll try. I’ve been able to stick with it because I just play mind games with myself. I hit the rower Mo, Tu, Th, and Fri. On a Monday, I’ll just tell myself after today, I just have to do tomorrow and then I can relax on Wednesday. Likewise, on a Friday, I just tell myself to do this and I get the weekend off to relax. I have an iPad that I put in the device holder and that helps pass the time. I picked up the rower in 2019 and am closing in on 5M meters now. Good luck with everything. 
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“I don't know what the prize is. I just wanna win.” - Usernames
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So here's what I'm up to. First, my immediate motivations/goals. Fitness. My wife and I attend the Electric Daisy Carnival every May (17-19 this year). We spend 4 nights dancing and staying up all night. It is a lot of fun but it is also a physical grind. I'm 65, so there's no coasting on the vigor of youth for me. I'd like to get through in good shape, and if I dropped a (relatively small) amount of midsection fat I wouldn't be displeased. I'm 6'2" and 185 lbs. My thinking has been related to increasing energy reserves generally, and building cardio health and endurance. I started running back in the early '70s, so the precepts of LSD running (long slow distance) are in my head. Take it easy, build capacity, tune up the body. Resting heart rate goes down, better performance arrives. Plus, I just ease into things more these days. Give my body time to make all its microadjustments and to get comfortable with the work. Strengthen this, loosen that. Just row; it'll happen. I started this about a month ago, very deliberately slowly with 6-min rows and a 3:30 500m pace. Very easy, very relaxed, just getting my schedule sorted and motivation in place. My last few workouts looked like this: 4/30 22 min -- 3894m -- 2:49.5 pace 4/30 22 min -- 3907m -- 2:49.0 pace 4/31 22 min -- 3920m -- 2:48.5 pace (Easter) 5/1 22 min -- 3930m -- 2:48.0 pace 5/1 23 min -- 4122m -- 2:47.5 pace 5/2 23 min -- 4132m -- 2:47.0 pace 5/2 23 min -- 4148m -- 2:46.5 pace 5/3 23 min -- 4158m -- 2:46.0 pace 5/3 24 min -- 4351m -- 2:45.5 pace You can see I'm not hyperfocused on performance. It's very mechanical. Each day, I add 1 minute of rowing. Each workout, I drop 0.5 s from the target 500m pace. It is still easy and I am clearly well within my physical capacity. My plan is to finish the progression to two 25-minute rows (50 min of rowing; that's also conveniently about the time when I hit 10k/day), then break the day into 3 rows, each at 20 minutes (60 min of rowing) and continue building volume by quickening the pace and adding a minute/day to my rowing. I have no idea where/when that will end, but it clearly can't go on indefinitely. Something will break, but I should be able to feel it coming and make an adjustment. In terms of my May goal, if I get to three 30-min rows at a decent pace, I will be satisfied. (I have a separate mostly-bodyweight calisthenics program.) That's fairly short-term. I can see it. But longer-term, I just have no idea what a reasonable training progression would look like. I'm not looking to race but to be fit. So for now, I row a simple program of my own devising. Is there a better one? No doubt, but I don't know what it is yet. In running, the distance and pace would vary by workout, and within the workout would be surges and recovery. There would be harder days and easier days. That's all ahead. For now, I row. |
| My thanks to those of you carrying us. I'm back from work travel (and a fun weekend of food poisoning, now recovered) and can put a few k more on the board before it wraps up. |
on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
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Originally Posted By FivespeedF150: My thanks to those of you carrying us. I'm back from work travel (and a fun weekend of food poisoning, now recovered) and can put a few k more on the board before it wraps up. Food poisoning, ouch. Being sick while traveling for work is not fun. I'm on track for my annual big weekend in mid-May, so I'm satisfied. This challenge was a happy serendipity. I"m still working that boring, mechanical workout program, but my body's been responding and I'm putting in the rower time without having to dig deep. So far. I'm about a month out, and still have work to do. |
Last day for the World Erg Challenge! Let’s finish strong 
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on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice