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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:23:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:26:22 PM EDT
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In on 100.
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:26:58 PM EDT
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22’er with the nice page ownage.
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:28:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: nickmemphis]
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"We developed these really nifty precision smart weapons that can kill one gnat without touching the other gnats in the swarm!" "How much?" "Oh about 175K per." "Ok, I was thinking alternatively we could just line up a bunch of tubes and lob a bunch of cheap $500 dollar jobs in there until everything in that general area is eventually all blown to flinders. Sorry about the baby formula factory you put mortars in and all."
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MA, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:31:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:32:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GroundhogOZ: I'm not picking fights ------your inept government is. And don't forget your mask. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:34:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:  Looks like someone has had one too many drinks. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:36:07 PM EDT
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Quote History Counting!! |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:36:12 PM EDT
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Putin must have tremendous trust in Xi.
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MT, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:37:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rca2222: Putin must have tremendous trust in Xi. Doubtful in the extreme. They have compatible goals. That's all. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:37:43 PM EDT
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You'd think people would recall all the really futuristic shit Germany invented in the big 2, all of which were way ahead of anyone else 1/1. But they couldn't make any of them very fast, so they ran out pretty quick. That's what we'll have if a real hot war kicks off and we burn all our whiz bang million dollar missile inventory in 36 hours and are left standing there with our dick in hand, because we can't replace them nearly as fast as they get used. We also can't store yuge piles of weapons like that, because they are the total opposite of non-perishable.
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:41:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickmemphis: You'd think people would recall all the really futuristic shit Germany invented in the big 2, all of which were way ahead of anyone else 1/1. But they couldn't make any of them very fast, so they ran out pretty quick. That's what we'll have if a real hot war kicks off and we burn all our whiz bang million dollar missile inventory in 36 hours and are left standing there with our dick in hand, because we can't replace them nearly as fast as they get used. We also can't store yuge piles of weapons like that, because they are the total opposite of non-perishable. I believe that was a problem in GW1, at least with some of the special high tech weapons. Not much in stockpiles and had to rush around to find enough to do some of the work, and at the same time rush some through production. I think the Clinton smart bomb/cruise missile diplomacy also had that effect with some of the guidance kits and T-hawk stores. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:41:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pred: I know this is out there, but any chance at all Chinese troops show up in the region? Maybe far eastern Russians |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:42:13 PM EDT
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You can fill warehouses with .50BMG and such, lock the door and then ignore it completely until it's needed, basically indefinitely.
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:42:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: Doubtful in the extreme. They have compatible goals. That's all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: Originally Posted By rca2222: Putin must have tremendous trust in Xi. Doubtful in the extreme. They have compatible goals. That's all. Perhaps for the moment. There is much that China would like to have from eastern Russia. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:45:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RustedAce: No, too cold. War with Australia would be fun though. Wonder what the per diem would be like? |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:45:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Well go complain to them, or go to the bar and have a drink. And don't forget your mask. Aren’t they still confined to their homes there? |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:46:03 PM EDT
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Page 100 for glory of Ukraine
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:48:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: I believe that was a problem in GW1, at least with some of the special high tech weapons. Not much in stockpiles and had to rush around to find enough to do some of the work, and at the same time rush some through production. I think the Clinton smart bomb/cruise missile diplomacy also had that effect with some of the guidance kits and T-hawk stores. There's literally like one single factory as I recall, where a small cadre of lunchlady people pack warheads by hand, for all our missile weapons, from MANPADS to Tomahawks and Sidewinders. They work a full time week, but their production is like three weapons a day. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:50:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JG_Wentworth: Maybe far eastern Russians No I was just asking General Willoughby about the possibility of the Chinese getting involved and he has assured me and General MacArthur that that is unlikely. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:52:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickmemphis: You can fill warehouses with .50BMG and such, lock the door and then ignore it completely until it's needed, basically indefinitely. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickmemphis: You can fill warehouses with .50BMG and such, lock the door and then ignore it completely until it's needed, basically indefinitely. I agree, but I think a shelf life that was 8 years and went up to 22 years for a complex guided system is not half bad. https://www.army.mil/article/156942/army_researchers_extend_missile_system_shelf_life Due to the success of the program, the average shelf life for missile systems has been extended from 7.9 to 22.6 years. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:53:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: Russian trolls will often pretend they are from other Western nations in order to sow distrust. Getting Americans mad at Aussies is his secondary goal. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/65378/Capture9-2286215.png |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:53:57 PM EDT
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I mean there might be 10 or 20 thousand irregulars north of Chosin, but no more than that.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:54:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickmemphis: You'd think people would recall all the really futuristic shit Germany invented in the big 2, all of which were way ahead of anyone else 1/1. But they couldn't make any of them very fast, so they ran out pretty quick. That's what we'll have if a real hot war kicks off and we burn all our whiz bang million dollar missile inventory in 36 hours and are left standing there with our dick in hand, because we can't replace them nearly as fast as they get used. We also can't store yuge piles of weapons like that, because they are the total opposite of non-perishable. I have a friend that was an agressor in OPFOR at Ft Irwin before the first Iraq war, he told me how the standard Russian tactic of wave attack typically played out, the first wave would come attack and the defending force would just target and kill the fuck out of everything that moved, then the second wave would start and they'd start killing the fuck out of them, but they'd start running out of shells and had used all their rockets up in the first wave, then the third wave starts in and they have shit to throw at them and they'd all get killed. I suspect the Javelins will get used up quickly in the same kind of scenario, unless Russian doctrine has changed drastically in 30 years (which is quite possible) or there is discipline to not shoot those expensive bastards at everything the moves on day one. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:55:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Added troll to my ignore list Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Russian trolls will often pretend they are from other Western nations in order to sow distrust. Getting Americans mad at Aussies is his secondary goal. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/65378/Capture9-2286215.png Is the ignore list only for paying accounts? I only see report hser |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:56:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
Every time the US does this, it opens up for Putin to make this admin look fucking stupid. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:57:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GroundhogOZ: LOL no, I'm really old and not very interesting. However, I am accurate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GroundhogOZ: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Did the Russians recognize that you were a Russian Military Expert from a Western nation, and have the FSB follow and harass you all the time you were there? They must have even suspected that you were a spook, right? They suspect everyone. Did they eventually PNG you, rather than allow you to further hone your amazing expertise, fearing that one day you would bring it to bear against them? No? How about that… Click. LOL no, I'm really old and not very interesting. However, I am accurate. They somehow appreciated your presence, and must have seen you as “useful.” That’s quite apparent. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:59:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:00:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:02:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I agree, but I think a shelf life of 8 to 22 years for a complex guided system is not half bad. https://www.army.mil/article/156942/army_researchers_extend_missile_system_shelf_life With missiles, what usually determines the shelf life is the batteries, followed by the solid propellant. It starts cracking and performing unreliably. The explosives are very stable, but the detonators less so. And the electronics, which you would think should be pretty stable, but aren't so much. Things like corrosion of junctions, and condensation during storage, and vibration during handling and whatever else. Batteries are a huge factor. They have the most stable battery chemistry available when they were made, but even the best chemistry ages quickly in reliability terms. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:02:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:02:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FrankyRay]
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nvm
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:02:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTAC: Is the ignore list only for paying accounts? I only see report hser we didn't have a ignore function when I joined. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:03:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickmemphis: Everyone loves artillery. It's what does most of the killin'. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickmemphis: Originally Posted By ziarifleman: Russia loves artillery. Everyone loves artillery. It's what does most of the killin'. Oh, we don’t. We’re too risk averse to smash grid squares. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:04:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Added troll to my ignore list Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Russian trolls will often pretend they are from other Western nations in order to sow distrust. Getting Americans mad at Aussies is his secondary goal. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/65378/Capture9-2286215.png I think he did the same kind of thing in the Afghan bugout thread last August. May be wrong on that though. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:04:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I agree, but I think a shelf life that was 8 years and went up to 22 years for a complex guided system is not half bad. https://www.army.mil/article/156942/army_researchers_extend_missile_system_shelf_life Which applies to the missiles made since that advancement but not the ones made prior to that, right? New and improved missiles, relevant adjective being 'new'. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:05:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ziarifleman: Oh, we don’t. We’re too risk averse to smash grid squares.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:05:32 PM EDT
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One hundo
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:05:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 58Teague]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: I think he did the same kind of thing in the Afghan bugout thread last August. May be wrong on that though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Russian trolls will often pretend they are from other Western nations in order to sow distrust. Getting Americans mad at Aussies is his secondary goal. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/65378/Capture9-2286215.png I think he did the same kind of thing in the Afghan bugout thread last August. May be wrong on that though. He did. I tried PMing him to find out what his problem was and he told me to fuck off  . I think DK or staff locked him out fairly quick in order to preserve the thread.... |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:06:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: He did. I tried PMing him to find out what his problem was and he told me to fuck off . I think DK or staff locked him out fairly quick in order to preserve the thread.... And then went back and deleted/edited all his posts? I seem to remember that too. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:07:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Protolith: I have a friend that was an agressor in OPFOR at Ft Irwin before the first Iraq war, he told me how the standard Russian tactic of wave attack typically played out, the first wave would come attack and the defending force would just target and kill the fuck out of everything that moved, then the second wave would start and they'd start killing the fuck out of them, but they'd start running out of shells and had used all their rockets up in the first wave, then the third wave starts in and they have shit to throw at them and they'd all get killed. I suspect the Javelins will get used up quickly in the same kind of scenario, unless Russian doctrine has changed drastically in 30 years (which is quite possible) or there is discipline to not shoot those expensive bastards at everything the moves on day one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Protolith: Originally Posted By nickmemphis: You'd think people would recall all the really futuristic shit Germany invented in the big 2, all of which were way ahead of anyone else 1/1. But they couldn't make any of them very fast, so they ran out pretty quick. That's what we'll have if a real hot war kicks off and we burn all our whiz bang million dollar missile inventory in 36 hours and are left standing there with our dick in hand, because we can't replace them nearly as fast as they get used. We also can't store yuge piles of weapons like that, because they are the total opposite of non-perishable. I have a friend that was an agressor in OPFOR at Ft Irwin before the first Iraq war, he told me how the standard Russian tactic of wave attack typically played out, the first wave would come attack and the defending force would just target and kill the fuck out of everything that moved, then the second wave would start and they'd start killing the fuck out of them, but they'd start running out of shells and had used all their rockets up in the first wave, then the third wave starts in and they have shit to throw at them and they'd all get killed. I suspect the Javelins will get used up quickly in the same kind of scenario, unless Russian doctrine has changed drastically in 30 years (which is quite possible) or there is discipline to not shoot those expensive bastards at everything the moves on day one. "Don't shoot all your really cool toys right away, ok?" sounds totally like the sort of order likely to be strictly obeyed in the American military. We have a long history of penny pinching in the logistics and unit of fire genres. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:08:20 PM EDT
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Quick….he’s been quiet for awhile. Probably busy watching his old lady with an aboriginal dude.
OSINT updates anyone? Be good time to get back on topic |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:08:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: He did. I tried PMing him to find out what his problem was and he told me to fuck off . I think DK or staff locked him out fairly quick in order to preserve the thread.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Originally Posted By m24shooter: Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Russian trolls will often pretend they are from other Western nations in order to sow distrust. Getting Americans mad at Aussies is his secondary goal. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/65378/Capture9-2286215.png I think he did the same kind of thing in the Afghan bugout thread last August. May be wrong on that though. He did. I tried PMing him to find out what his problem was and he told me to fuck off . I think DK or staff locked him out fairly quick in order to preserve the thread.... But didn’t do anything about the pro-Russian troll itself. As is tradition. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:10:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ziarifleman: But didn’t do anything about the pro-Russian troll itself. As is tradition. There's a difference between useful idiots and intentional information warfare. Site staff has banned some of the latter. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:11:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickmemphis: Which applies to the missiles made since that advancement but not the ones made prior to that, right? New and improved missiles, relevant adjective being 'new'. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickmemphis: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I agree, but I think a shelf life that was 8 years and went up to 22 years for a complex guided system is not half bad. https://www.army.mil/article/156942/army_researchers_extend_missile_system_shelf_life Which applies to the missiles made since that advancement but not the ones made prior to that, right? New and improved missiles, relevant adjective being 'new'. Article is from 2015, includes other US military services and exports with all sides exchanging info for upkeep of systems. I would imagine older systems can be included, since replacing batteries checking electronics etc. can be done. I refurbished systems for Raytheon in the past. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:11:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: He did. I tried PMing him to find out what his problem was and he told me to fuck off . |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:14:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: nickmemphis]
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"Ok, we'll loan you the tanks, but you have to give them back even if you are engaged when we ask, OK?" "Yes sir, Colonel, absolutely. Oh, btw, just a heads up, we've been having an intermittent issue with our coms sometimes being garbled so bad we can't make out the message. But I promise we'll send the tanks back as soon as we get the message no matter what."
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:14:49 PM EDT
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In on page 100
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:15:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:16:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickmemphis: No I was just asking General Willoughby about the possibility of the Chinese getting involved and he has assured me and General MacArthur that that is unlikely. lol, nice reference. He was the quintessential Yes-man for MacArthur. |
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