Well, they've already secured the exclusive book and movie rights, so no harm telling someone on Twitter at this point.

Here is what YOU don't get.  There should never have been an invasion in the first place.  Mature individuals rooted deeply in an understanding or Realpolitik should have let Zelinski know that Ukraine was in Russia's sphere of influence, and Russia had strategic concerns about NATO encroaching on their borders, and no, it isn't fair, and no he wasn't going to get a pony for his birthday either, and that he should just cut the best deal that he possibly could given those ugly facts.  Then the Ukranian government should have worked hard to make the best of their situation, and make necessary accommodations to the reality of the situation (maybe Ireland and Mexico and Canada could have helped mentor them) and spare their population from the horrors of war.  Or not.

Forgive my pragmatism.  I'm not in college any more.

Russia gives Ukraine hours to surrender stricken city of Mariupol in ultimatum

Zelenskyy apparently doesn't feel confident that he has the support of his countrymen.

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Another video angle of the Strike on Kyiv, this Explosions looks Massive, from my Opinion it is more than likely a Ballistic Missile possible an Iskander Missile instead of a Cruise Missile. pic.twitter.com/5eZEbcicF4

OSINTdefender  (@sentdefender) March 20, 2022

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I know what a Nazi was in 1939 Germany.  I do not know what a Nazi is today, because the term is thrown around so loosely it defies all logic and reason.

But...  If the guys in Mauripol defending their homeland by kicking ass and fighting Russians to the death for the last 4 weeks are a bunch of Nazis?  Then I am proud to say I'm cheering for the Nazi's in this fight.  I'm on Team AZOV and Team Ukraine.  Fuck Putin.

Why would you want to shut up people calling for your destruction? Seems like that would only increase your support. Unless all of this is founded on a lie.

Sorry, no. Putin doesn’t get to win, even if Tucker says so.

I understand a lot of this war is about playing a game of chicken. But aren't NATO members suppose to stay out of wars unless the whole nato team is on board? And, won't putin say if Poland jumps in it is now NATO attacking russia?

I totally don't get the reasons behind using transparent justifications for shit like invading other countries and killing civilians. But it definitely does seem like putin likes to have some justification before he starts doing more crazy/violent stuff. Russians are still pushing this bullshit that they invaded the Nation of Ukraine and murdered hundreds or thousands of civilians because they had to, to protect themselves. I don't get it. But that is the game. Honesty would have been for putin to say "I want ukraine to be part of russia and I'll kill every last one of them if I have to to make it happen." Nazis.

Probably about the same as a white supremacist in 2022

High school destroyed by Russian missiles in Ukraine's besieged Mariupol

I don't think Poland, for instance, can drive their tanks into Ukraine and start shooting Russians while representing NATO unless NATO votes to approve it.  They can drive in on their own any time they want as the Polish army, but I don't see how in the world NATO would be responsible for helping them.

A little-noticed provision in the 2,232-page government spending bill passed last week bans U.S. arms from going to a controversial ultranationalist militia in Ukraine that has openly accepted neo-Nazis into its ranks.
House-passed spending bills for the past three years have included a ban on U.S. aid to Ukraine from going to the Azov Battalion, but the provision was stripped out before final passage each year.


This year, though, the $1.3 trillion omnibus spending bill signed into law last week stipulates that "none of the funds made available by this act may be used to provide arms, training or other assistance to the Azov Battalion."
"White supremacy and neo-Nazism are unacceptable and have no place in our world," Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), an outspoken critic of providing lethal aid to Ukraine, said in a statement to The Hill on Tuesday. "I am very pleased that the recently passed omnibus prevents the U.S. from providing arms and training assistance to the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion fighting in Ukraine."


The United States has been aiding and training Ukrainian forces in their fight against Russian-backed separatists since 2014, and recently expanded that aid to include arms. The omnibus includes about $620.7 million in aid for Ukraine, including $420.7 million in State Department and foreign operations funds and $200 million in Pentagon funds.


The Azov Battalion was founded in 2014, and its first commander was Andriy Biletsky, who previously headed the neo-Nazi group Patriot of Ukraine. Several members of the militia, which has been integrated into the Ukrainian National Guard, are self-avowed neo-Nazis.


But a spokesman for the group has defended it, telling USA Today in 2015 that only 10 to 20 percent of recruits are neo-Nazis and that those people do not represent the official ideology of Azov.
It's unclear how much, if anything, from the United States has gone to Azov in the past.


"The State Department should pressure Kiev to dissociate itself with this group and investigate whether any of our weapons or training have already been provided to them," Khanna said in his statement. "This is just one of many reasons why lawmakers should be concerned about channeling huge amounts of weapons into this volatile conflict zone."


Last year, online posts by the militia's news service showed members testing U.S.-made grenade launchers at a firing range. The posts have since been deleted, and the Ukrainian National Guard insisted in a January statement that the grenade launchers were not in Azov's possession.


U.S. officials have said vetting required under the so-called Leahy Law already prevents the United States from aiding Azov. The Leahy Law bans U.S. aid from going to groups when the "secretary of State has credible information that such unit has committed a gross violation of human rights."


But proponents of a ban specific to Azov say the Leahy Law did not preclude it from getting aid, since the secretary of State has never made such a determination about the group.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/380483-congress-bans-arms-to-controversial-ukrainian-militia-linked-to-neo-nazis

I haven't seen anyone use that specific formulation, but I have seen different arguments from bluechecks in support of a NFZ/ground war against Russia like:

>Russia wouldn't be able to launch nukes if they wanted to, because someone in the CoC will refuse;
>Russia's nukes probably don't work;
>even if they work, it probably won't result in the extinction of the human race.

It's especially awkward when you realize the people so sanguine about the possibility of a limited nuclear exchange were often the same ones demanding a total lockdown of society over a respiratory virus.

This might happen if Belarus sends troops into Ukraine, and probably why they are hesitant to do it.

Thankfully it doesn't look like it was full of kids.

And the other day, at my request, somebody posted a pic here of a yamaka sporting an Azov patch. It looked like a military setting to me. A jewish guy proud of his jewish heritage, proud of his batalion. Understandable.

Did we do this yet?

The Deputy Mayor of the Ukrainian City of Dnipro has Officially Stated that any Russian Backed Chechen Forces also know as “Kadyrovites” that are Killed in the Region will be Sewn-Up and Buried in Pigskins by Local Meat Processing Plants.

OSINTdefender  (@sentdefender) March 20, 2022

Sounds like an American nod for that peace keeping mission that Poland is calling for.

Think it was @BerettaGuy .

I thought I bookmarked the page he posted it on but I guess I didn't..

Sig line material right there.

I wish this thread had an index.  Anyway, it seems that this Nazi Ukrainian bullshit comes up every couple of hundred pages. Alexi Joneskov just published another bullshit article on his webpage about Ukrainians in WW2. My Ukrainian family including my mother had their home and business taken away from the Nazis. My mother (in her 80s) still remembers when Nazis came to her home and questioned my grandmother as to where my great uncle Michael was (he joined the Ukrainian partisans in the Carpathian mountains WHO WERE KILLING NAZIS). That day, my mother heard all of the women and children crying in her village because the Nazis were executing all of the men. My grandparents even hid their Jewish neighbors in a root cellar- had they been caught, they would have been executed. My mother and grandparents wound up in a German prison camp. Over 2,000,000 Ukrianians were killed directly by German forces in WW2. In 1932-33, Stalin mass murdered between 7 - 12 million Ukrainians in the largest genocide by famine. The Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought both the Nazis and the Russian Communists and the fight against communists continued into the 1950s.

As far as this other bullshit you and the others keep harping on:

I once remember a guy set up at a 500 table gun show in Ohio who was selling Nazi WW2 paraphernalia BUT not just for collecting but for promoting, he was also a skinhead type. The news went right to him for an interview, Guess what was on the news? "Gun shows are meeting centers for Aryan Nations and other Neo-Nazi groups".

THE GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE SUPPORTS AZOV BATTALION! The Jewish president of Ukraine supports Azov Battalion (100% integrated into the Ukrainian military). Kyiv Mayor Klitchko supports Azov (1/2 or 1/4 Jewish, I forget).Ukraine is the ONLY country outside of Israel to have a Jewish president AND a Jewish Prime Minister serving AT THE SAME TIME. There are Jewish leaders in AZOV BATTALION.

And let's not forget even more right wing Right Sektor:

Ukraine's Right Sektor is so Nazi that one of the founders was (drum roll please) Jewish:
Right-Wing Ukrainian Leader Is (Surprise) Jewish, and (Real Surprise) Proud of It: A Q&A with the Right Sector Parliamentarian Borislav Bereza - article by TABLET (a Jewish publication)


Maxim has fought in east #Ukraine since May 2014 (including w/ Right Sector) and heads a company of Jewish volunteer fighters.


Jewish Members of Right Sektor in a worship service


Minora Ukrainian Right Sektor t-shirt worn by a Jew




Jewish Community Defends Right Sector Against Russian Media Lies

Just as the US, Britain and others went into Iraq in 2003, as a coalition but not a NATO coalition, other countries can do the same.

I imagine Poland is probably getting pretty frustrated with the millions of refugees flooding across their border from this conflict.  Sure, they’ve been really helpful to them but it still has to be really disruptive. Then add to that Russia’s rhetoric about Poland being next and I can see where Poland is ready to act.

Car that the collaborating would be puppet was traveling in:

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 Scott Ritter continuing to make as ass out of himself,probably mad he got stuck working at RT rather than getting hired by Fox

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Ah, ok. Thanks for the clarification. I had it wrong.
Putin will still say nato has started shooting at russia, of course. But he's kind of batshit, so...

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SEVERAL-YEAR-OLD AMELKA FROM UKRAINE PERFORMED THE NATIONAL ANTHEM OF HER COUNTRY ON THE D STAGE